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naniwadekar

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Sep 2, 2003, 3:28:59 AM9/2/03
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Miyan Jan - A name from the past

Source - S V Gokhale's note on the singer in Govindrao
Tembe's book : 'Maajhaa Sangeet Vyaasang'.

Miyaa.N Jaan (about 1880 - 1919) was known for his taan.
He became famous under his nickname. His real name is not
known. Miyan Jan Khan was nephew and disciple of Ali
Baksh. Ali Baksh is remembered as part of the Jarnail-
Karnail duo. Fateh Ali alias Aliya Fattu was the Colonel
and Ali Baksh the General. Jarnail and Karnail were not
related. Miyan Jan's maternal grandfather (grand-dad in
Bozo-speak), Miyan Kalu Khan, was Tanras Khan's disciple.
It is Gokhale's guess that Miyan Jan's famous taan should
be traceable to Tanras Khan (died in 1890). Tembe has
ranked Miya Jan among the most tayyaar singers he ever
heard. But he did not bother much about 'asthai
bharanaa', relying rather heavily on taan-baazi.
Naturally, his singing was associated with drut laya with
special affinity for taar shadja. He had mastered Sohini
and ADaaNaa. His voice was known for its power, natural
lagaav, sweetness and amplitude. His taan spanned three
octaves with ease. Its firat was incredible. He had a
special gift for swooping unexpectedly and thrillingly on
the sam straight out of the taan. But his singing was
dominated by drut khayal, Tappa-s and tarana-s. His ego
was huge. He could not get along with anybody. He moved
to Mumbai from Delhi and had a long stay in Maharashtra.
He did not leave behind any shiShya-paramparaa.

Has Miyan Jan's voice been preserved on the 78s ?


- dn

Manohar Bodas

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Sep 2, 2003, 11:20:30 PM9/2/03
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the piglet"naniwadekar" <nani3...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bj1gqc$e267p$1...@ID-75735.news.uni-berlin.de>...

> Miyan Jan - A name from the past
>
*If and when Dhenuvallabh meets Josh, Nani will be name from the past
on RMIC.

All are waiting for that moment. Will he or will he not meet?? Let us
see what the coward Piglet will do

MB

bzshri

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Sep 3, 2003, 9:00:45 PM9/3/03
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> >
> *If and when Dhenuvallabh meets Josh, Nani will be name from the past
> on RMIC.
>
> All are waiting for that moment. Will he or will he not meet?? Let us
> see what the coward Piglet will do
>

Come on Josh, take out your cowboy hat and chaps and level this
pseudo-pandit!

--2BZ


Josh

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Sep 4, 2003, 12:03:43 PM9/4/03
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"bzshri" <nospam...@gr8-ou812.com> wrote in message news:<19w5b.163966$2x.4...@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>...

Patience.....time is on my side. I will disappoint no one, least of
all myself. I have attained much of the information that I need (I
have found out that dn has made many an enemy-quite known for his
mortoo batamiz ways) and now all that is left is to confront this
gandu and see how his mouth performs in person. Poor dn-He won't see
me coming-He doesn't know who to look for........Always wondering if
that angreezi is Josh, or is that gora Josh.....Doesn't matter really.
I suspect that when dn gauges what he's in for....The apologies will
stream like the su-su that comes out his mouth. But we'll see won't
we.
I'm rather excited really.........what hideous deformities or lack of
physical attributes does dn suffer from that he must act in such a way
to cover? I'll post pictures of our meeting for all to see...Where
your mundir best dn. Hey dn-I'll give you a hint............Ever met
a gora that could speak your language????

bzshri

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Sep 4, 2003, 9:47:59 PM9/4/03
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Cool (Or kewl)!!!

--BZ


Amit

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Sep 4, 2003, 10:04:18 PM9/4/03
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I have been reading rmic for almost 6 years now. I have learnt a lot.
Readers have to ignore fights on this forum. But it is much better
than junk emails by Jai Maharaj on other forums. But current
atmosphere has been very bad for so many months. Mr Naniwadekar and Mr
Bodas have spoiled the fun for all readers. Now Mr Josh has joined
them. He is even issuing threats. Mr Senders corrects grammer mistakes
and speaks against bad English. But he has not said anything against
threats. He made a joke about his safety. This is very disappointing.
He and Mr Kelkar have requested Mr Naniwadekar and Mr Bodas to stop.
But they are mud slinging every day. All appeals to stop dirty
fighting have been ignored.

This poster Mr Naniwadekar declares all artists as bad. Only Marathi
artists are good for him. LOL. There is no regional bias in music. Any
region can have good musicians. Okay? You should have open mind. It is
easy to target artists. Playing music yourself is a difficult art.

And Mr Josh says he is sure about his sitar skill. But when others
criticize him he takes different approach and threatens. Mr Josh, do
you think artists like Ustad Vilayat Khan go and challenge their
critics in person? LOL. It is because they care about music and
practice hard for all their time. Sorry for hurting your sentiments
guys. I am not gyani like you and have not learnt music. But it is
better to be common music fan and not keep fighting and using dirty
language against others on a serious forum. Forum is only for
discussing a peaceful topic like music. Your knowledge is wastage
without good behavior. So please Mr Naniwadekar, Mr Bodas and Mr Josh,
you stop fights and allow others to discuss music. You can discuss
your differnces using email and not ruin other people's mood every day
on a public forum.

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