Looking for L Shanker music
Geoffrey L Yuen
Once my indian schoolmate (Sri) lended me a tape of music by "L. Shanker"
that features 2 violins with a really nice new-age, desolate but indian feel.
This is almost farfetched but can anyone suggest what the album maybe -
Name that tune with no notes ?
I love that tape and hope to look for it in little India here in Chicago.
.. if somebody will give me some clues
Thanks so much
Geoff
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Mahesh Srinivas
> Hi all
>
> Once my indian schoolmate (Sri) lended me a tape of music by "L. Shanker"
> that features 2 violins with a really nice new-age, desolate but indian feel.
> This is almost farfetched but can anyone suggest what the album maybe -
> Name that tune with no notes ?
>
> I love that tape and hope to look for it in little India here in Chicago.
> .. if somebody will give me some clues
>
>
L Shankar has many recordings with his "Shankar Double Violin" (designed
by him).
In the Classical Music category, you have 'Panca Nadai Pallavi'
which is a Ragam-Tanam-Pallavi in Raga Sanakarabharanam with Zakir
Hussain on Tabla and Vikku Vinayakaram on Ghatam. The alaap on side A
is *beautiful* music, (though Carnatic music purists may disagree with it,
but what the bloody hell - if it feels good, its music to me) and the
percussion work by Zakir and Vinayakaram is incredible again.
Then there's his Ragam-Tanam-Pallavi in Raga Aberi, whose title I can't
remember just now with Zakir and Vinayakaram again as accompanists.
This again is sublime music, with the highlight being the percussion
solo on the end of side B. Side A also has a Mridangam solo in Adi tala
by Palghat Mani Iyer. (Just remembered - the title is 'Galaxy')
The first recording he did with his double violin is called 'Who's To Know'.
I can't off-hand remember the ragas he's played on it. The percussion
accompaniment is by Umayalpuram Sivaraman on Mridangam and Zakir Hussain
on Tabla. Again, there's a terrific percussion solo in side B.
There are some other classical music recordings of his with the double
violin as well, but they're nowhere near as good.
He's also recorded classical music with the conventional violin.
Aside from this, you have his recordings with Shakti; the music is
really excellent (I used to use Natural Elements as the standard
sound-check tape for the SPIC-MACAY concerts in my college! :) )
and worth buying.
Mahesh
Carl Christensen
who I believe is sitarist Ravi Shankar's daughter?
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: Is `L Shanker' as referred to in this post really Lakshmi Shankar
Mahesh Srinivas
L Shankar is one of three brothers, all of whom are accomplished
violinists. The other two are L Vaidyanathan and L Subramaniam.
They are not related to Pt. Ravi Shankar.
Mahesh
Scott T. Lillis
>who I believe is sitarist Ravi Shankar's daughter?
found out what the 'L' stood for.
As for the original poster of this thread I don't know the album of
which you speak, but I have heard him in other settings like Karnatic
ensembles and of course with McGlaughlin.
SCott
The Great Deceiver
>
>L Shankar is one of three brothers, all of whom are accomplished
>violinists. The other two are L Vaidyanathan and L Subramaniam.
>They are not related to Pt. Ravi Shankar.
>
>Mahesh
I've got a Shakti cd that says L Shankar is Ravi's nephew.
Later,
Rick
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Mahesh Srinivas
> >Is `L Shanker' as referred to in this post really Lakshmi Shankar
> >who I believe is sitarist Ravi Shankar's daughter?
> No. It is a guy who is Ravi's cousin or something like that. I never
> found out what the 'L' stood for.
The L stands for Lakshminarayana - thats L Shankar's father's name.
And L Shankar is in *no way* related to Pt. Ravi Shankar. :)
Shankar in both cases is not the surname of the gentlemen;
it is their own names. Shankar just happens to be a fairly common
name in India.
Mahesh
LUTINS ALLEN H
>The first recording he did with his double violin is called 'Who's To Know'.
>I can't off-hand remember the ragas he's played on it. The percussion
>accompaniment is by Umayalpuram Sivaraman on Mridangam and Zakir Hussain
>on Tabla. Again, there's a terrific percussion solo in side B.
Side 1: Ragam-Tanam-Pallavi (Raga - Hemavathi) ["...set on a new
tala cycle, conceived by Shankar. The first half of this time cycle
is based on 5 1/2 beats and the second half is based on 4 1/2 beats."]
Side 2: Ananda Nadamadum Tillai Sankara (Ragam - Savithi; Tala - Adi
(8 beats)
Another note from the album (which incidentally is dedicated to John
McLaughlin): "The 10-string double violin, which is heard for the
first itme on this album, is a double-bodied instrument conceived and
designed by Shankar and built by Ken Parker of Stuyvesant Sound. The
nexks can be played individually or collectively; when played
individually, the strings of the other neck create sympathetic
effects, overtones. Among its many possibilities, the double violin
can cover the range of the whole string orchestra (although only the
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>In article <whBk2C200...@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Scott T. Lillis" <sl...@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> >Is `L Shanker' as referred to in this post really Lakshmi Shankar
>> >who I believe is sitarist Ravi Shankar's daughter?
>Shankar in both cases is not the surname of the gentlemen;
>it is their own names. Shankar just happens to be a fairly common
>name in India.
Well Mahesh,a small correction.Shankar is indeed Ravi Shankar's last name.Ravi
Shankar is the brother of the famous dancer Uday Shankar.His niece [Ravi's;also
Uday's daughter] Mamata Shankar is an excellent dancer and quite a talented
actress as well.Her brother Ananda Shankar is well known as a fusion musician.
I am not sure but most probably the Shankars were originally Bhattacharyas.It was
their middle name which finally became their surname.
regards,siddhartha.
ZWEBNER OFIR
: Hi all
: Once my indian schoolmate (Sri) lended me a tape of music by "L. Shanker"
: that features 2 violins with a really nice new-age, desolate but indian feel.
: This is almost farfetched but can anyone suggest what the album maybe -
: Name that tune with no notes ?
: I love that tape and hope to look for it in little India here in Chicago.
: .. if somebody will give me some clues
: Thanks so much
: Geoff
I suppose you're talking about that ECM Shankar that I know of. I love his
record called "A Song for Everyone" (available from the ECM label).
On "A Song for Everyone" he has Jan Garbarek on Saxophone and Zakir Hussain on
Sitars/Tabla and all these sorts of indian instruments. And there's a drummer
too, but I forgot his name. I highly recommend this album.
Yours,
Richard Heck
>that features 2 violins with a really nice new-age, desolate but indian feel.
>This is almost farfetched but can anyone suggest what the album maybe -
>Name that tune with no notes ?
I am just a HUGE fan of this guy, who has been sufficiently identified by
others. I've got most of his albums (I think) and would love to hear of
anything on which he plays that I don't already have. I'm thus posting,
for the benefit of all, as complete a discography as I can assemble quickly.
L. SHANKAR himself
I've noted performers on the jazz LPs
Who's To Know (1981)
Vision (1984)
with Palle Daniellsson (trumpet, flug) and Jan Garbarek (sax)
Song for Everyone (1985)
with Jan Garbarek (sax), Trilok Gurtu (perc), and Zakir Hussain (perc)
Nobody Told Me (1989)
Pancha Nadai Pallavi (1990)
Soul Searcher (1990)
M.R.C.S. (1991)
with Zakir Hussain (perc), Vikku Vinyakram (ghatam) and Jon
Christensen (drums)
SHANKAR AND CAROLINE
The Epidemics (1986)
with Steve Vai, among others
SHAKTI (with John McLaughlin and Zakir Hussain)
Shakti (1976)
A Handful of Beauty (1977)
Natural Elements (1977)
Appearances on other people's albums....
PETER GABRIEL
So (1986)
Passion (1989)
Us (1992)
Also appears on "Passion Sources" and "Plus from Us"
TALKING HEADS
Speaking in Tongues (1983)
Appears on "Making Flippy Floppy"!!
Scott Ronghi
amazing!
Scott
A.Pavan
Ravi Shankar is in fact related to L.Shankar albeit in a contrived way.
L. Subramaniam is married to Laxmi Shankar's daughter (Viji Subramaniam)
and Laxmi shankar is Ravi Shankar's sister-in-law (??). So since L. Shankar is
L.Subramiam's brother, I guess there's the relationship. :-)
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Malcolm Humes
>I am just a HUGE fan of this guy, who has been sufficiently identified by
>others. I've got most of his albums (I think) and would love to hear of
>anything on which he plays that I don't already have. I'm thus posting,
>for the benefit of all, as complete a discography as I can assemble quickly.
Offhand you can find Shankar on a couple of great tracks with Percy
Jones, on Percy's Propellor Music. And I believ that Shankar is on
the DARK release Tamna Voda on CMP. Pertty sure he can also be found on
some Bill Laswell/Material productions, I think maybe on Ginger Baker's
Middle Passage.
Also, I forget if you mentioned these:
SHANKAR
(CD) SOUL SEARCHER 1990 AXIOM
(CD) VISION 1984 ECM
- malcolm
Renu Raman
>by him).
Here are some of his recordings
In the classical category
1. 'Live in New York'
Ananda Nadamadum Tillai Shankara (Ragamn - Savitri)
Neravathisugatha (Ragam - Ravichandrika)
RTP (Ragam - Kiravani - 4 1/2 beats)
2. Pancha Nadai Pallavi
(The only classical music CD that I know of that won some awards
- golden <something> like the golden globe awards for movies).
RTP - (Ragam - Sankarabharanam - 9 1/2 beats).
3. Soul Searcher
RTP - Kapi 6 3/4 beats
4. Nobody Told me
Chittam Irangaayo (Ragam - Hamsadhvani)
Chodhanai Thantu (Ragam - Chakravakam)
Tillana - Ragam Hindolam
5. Who's to Know
RTP - Hemavathi
Ananda Nadamadum Tillai Sankara (Ragam Savithri)
6. Accompanying Semmangudi in a CD album.
7. Galaxy
I don't have the details
All Tala are Adi except otherwise noted (notice his odd beat selections).
Notice his preference to RTP.
Kapi, Keravani, Sankarabharanam are excellent pieces. The last time
he was here (in Berkeley), he played a RTP in Shanmugapriya - the best
I have heard - esp. a more mellowed (less of those screetching high pitched
western classical style playing of the violin).
As you can see, I am a big fan of L Shankar (spelled with a, instead of 'e')
His style is unique and is actually a very interesting form of 'fusion'. He
renders Carnatic songs/Ragams in a hindustani style (long Alaapanas) with
a tinge of western classical orchestral grandeur - still retaining a very
strong Carnatic feel. A style which is a nice evolution of the traditional
Carnatic way of rendering. Lives in Santa Monica, CA, I believe - has a
music institute named after his father - Lakshminarayana (Incidently,
Ravi Shankar lives in Santa Monica, too I believe).
In the other category (Fusion type) - which I don't like very much.
1. M.R.C.S
2. Song For Everyone
3. Passion (the music of Last Temptation of Christ - one of the
instrument(alist)s that Peter Gabriel employs).
renu raman
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