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Amit Chatterjee

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Dec 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/20/97
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I had an opportunity to listen to a Karnatic CD by Shri Balmurali Krishna
playing Raag Mahati. I was wondering about its Hindustani counterpart.
It had traces of Hindustani raags - Jog, Kalavati, Abhogi and a few others
but none of them was a complete fit. Anyone with an idea of the equivalent ?

Regards.

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Krishna Kunchithapadam

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Dec 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/21/97
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amit_ch...@hotmail.com (Amit Chatterjee) writes:
:
: I had an opportunity to listen to a Karnatic CD by Shri Balmurali Krishna

: playing Raag Mahati. I was wondering about its Hindustani counterpart.
: It had traces of Hindustani raags - Jog, Kalavati, Abhogi and a few others
: but none of them was a complete fit. Anyone with an idea of the equivalent ?
:


The similarity that you perceive between Mahati and Kalavati,
Abhogi, Jog is sound. However, I do not think that there is a
precise, scale-equivalent of Mahati in Hindustani music.

Mahati is a raga with just 4 svaras in its scale: s g3 p n2.
Abhogi is pentatonic: s r2 g3 p n2 (and hence the similarity).


Bits of Mahati trivia:

* Balamurali's daughter is named Mahati.

* Mahati is the name of the 4-stringed veena played by Narada.
Balamurali, in the Doordarshan program _Saadhana_ says that he
named the raga Mahati to characterize its 4-note status.

* When it was first introduced into the music scene in the 1960s,
most people did not accept the notion that a raga with fewer
than 5 svaras could exist (or be regarded as a legitimate
raga).

Many people continue to claim so even now, when Balamurali has
composed kritis in 3 ragas with 4-notes and 2 ragas with 3-notes.

For more information:

http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~krisna/rmic/rmic.1994.10.11.html

--Krishna

Ragavan

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Dec 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/21/97
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Mahati's elegance was noticed by the famous Tamil music director MS
Viswanathan. The song "Adhisaya Raagam" sung by Yesudoss in K
Balachandar's film "Abhoorva Raagangal" has its first three stanzas in
Mahati- it was MSV's tribute to Balamurali's genious for the rare and
the uncommon.

Having proved beyond doubt that four swaras are sufficient to create a
living, breathing raga, Balamurali went on to concieve of a tri-tonic
raga: Sarvasree. Sarvasree has just the Sudha Madhyama, besides Sadjama
and Panchama! This raga is no Kalyani or Thodi in terms of scope, but it
is a proof-of-concept that a scale of three notes can have a musical
identity. I had the fortune of learning the Kirthana (Uma Sutham Namaami)
as well as many others, from the maestro himself.

I just noticed that
http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~krisna/rmic/rmic.1994.10.11.html | |--Krishna
has more info on Balamurali's creations- 'Manorama' is a miss- any
particular reason, Krishna?

thank you.

Ragavan


Krishna Kunchithapadam

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Dec 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/22/97
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Ragavan <rm...@csis5.ee.virginia.edu> writes:
:
: Mahati's elegance was noticed by the famous Tamil music director MS

: Viswanathan. The song "Adhisaya Raagam" sung by Yesudoss in K
: Balachandar's film "Abhoorva Raagangal" has its first three stanzas in
: Mahati- it was MSV's tribute to Balamurali's genious for the rare and
: the uncommon.
:

Mahati is indeed an "adisaya, aanandha, azhagiya, apoorva" raga.


:
: I just noticed that


: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~krisna/rmic/rmic.1994.10.11.html | |--Krishna
: has more info on Balamurali's creations- 'Manorama' is a miss- any
: particular reason, Krishna?

:

One of these days I will find the time (:-) to prepare a web page
listing all the ragas created by Balamurali, along with
representative compositions in them.


A recent recording by Balamurali has compositions in 4 of his own
ragas: sumukham, sarvasri, mahati, and lavangi. The title of the
album is "Navya Ragas".

--Krishna

kv...@hotmail.com

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Dec 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/22/97
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In article <67krq8$l...@spool.cs.wisc.edu>,

kri...@calico.cs.wisc.edu (Krishna Kunchithapadam) wrote:
>
>
> A recent recording by Balamurali has compositions in 4 of his own
> ragas: sumukham, sarvasri, mahati, and lavangi. The title of the
> album is "Navya Ragas".
>
> --Krishna


This is not a new recording. I have this casette for at least last
5 years :-) Brought out by Surya record of Vizg if I'm not mistaken.

A good album, though.

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kv...@hotmail.com

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Dec 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/22/97
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In article <67judd$3...@spool.cs.wisc.edu>,
kri...@calico.cs.wisc.edu (Krishna Kunchithapadam) wrote:

>
> The similarity that you perceive between Mahati and Kalavati,
> Abhogi, Jog is sound. However, I do not think that there is a
> precise, scale-equivalent of Mahati in Hindustani music.
>
> Mahati is a raga with just 4 svaras in its scale: s g3 p n2.
> Abhogi is pentatonic: s r2 g3 p n2 (and hence the similarity).

Krishna ! You must be kidding :-) :-)


Abhogi is pentatonic with S R2 G1 M1 D2 S ( 1 = komala, 2 = Tivra )


Kalavati/ Valaji is S G2 P D2 N2 S and if you leave out the D, you end
up in Mahati. So no doubt you feel the traces of Kalavati !

Valaji and Abhogi are M/P graha bheda's of each other. Start on P of
Kalavati, we end up getting Abhogi, we could probably hear a bit of
Abhogi too , I have not noticed !


Ramaprasad K V

V P Iyengar

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Dec 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/22/97
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> The similarity that you perceive between Mahati and Kalavati,
> Abhogi, Jog is sound. However, I do not think that there is a
> precise, scale-equivalent of Mahati in Hindustani music.
>
> Mahati is a raga with just 4 svaras in its scale: s g3 p n2.
> Abhogi is pentatonic: s r2 g3 p n2 (and hence the similarity).

Isn't Abhogi s r2 g2 m1 d2 s? If that is right, I was just wondering,
which raga is the s r2 g3 p n2 s?

Venkatesh

Raga

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Dec 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/22/97
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|Isn't Abhogi s r2 g2 m1 d2 s? If that is right, I was just wondering,
|which raga is the s r2 g3 p n2 s?
|
|Venkatesh

s r2 g3 p n2 is "Veenavaahini". Yesudoss has popularized a "Shree
Ganeshaswaram" in this raga- I can't remember whose composition it is,
though.

Ragavan.


Hari Asuri

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Dec 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM12/23/97
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>s r2 g3 p n2 is "Veenavaahini". Yesudoss has popularized a "Shree
>Ganeshaswaram" in this raga- I can't remember whose composition it is,
>though.

>Ragavan.

The raga is "veenaavaadini" and the song is "Shree Ganeshathparam" by
Muthuswamy Dikshithar.

Hari

sumad...@gmail.com

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But ghantasala has introduced this raga into film industry far before Ms vishwanathan did.. in the movie lavakusa.. scene- when seeta questions ramas character to rishi's in valmiki ashraman.. though it was just background music ..it still has that sharp notion of the raga....
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