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I am looking for a recording of Charukeshi by Amir Khan.
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> Hello,
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> I am looking for a recording of Charukeshi by Amir Khan.
>
> TIA
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Chetan Vinchhi
a wrote...
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>I am looking for a recording of Charukeshi by Amir Khan.
HMV has released one in various forms. One of the earliest
was on an LP set. More recently, the same pieces were
released as a 4-tape set titled Enchanting Evenings (?) or
something like that. This should be fairly easily available.
I believe these pieces are re-released on a regular basis
on different (mostly single tape or CD) albums. But your
best bet would still be the above 4-tape album.
C
Vangal Muthukumar
Chetan Vinchhi wrote:
>
>
> HMV has released one in various forms. One of the earliest
> was on an LP set. More recently, the same pieces were
> released as a 4-tape set titled Enchanting Evenings (?) or
> something like that.
[...]
Memorable Evenings with Ustad Amir Khan Saheb (STC04B 7371-7374). Among
other pieces, this collection features the Mother of all Darbaris -
"Mori aali ri.." (also posted by Rajan in the Kanada constellation, if I
remember right).
muthu
Nur der BvB!
Itu Chaudhuri
Hi Chetan
The LPs that I know of (all brilliant, I'd extend Rajan's comments to
all) are so dear to me that I have ended my days as a spectator on
rmic.
I don't know if the *same* LPs were converted into tapes. If Muthu is
right about "Mori aali ri..", then perhaps it wasn't the same
recording. The Darbari vil. khayal on the LP is, as has been pointed
out on another post, "Eri birari pir".
Here goes the info, (alas, along with my opinions which I have put in
seprate paras for easy 'langhan')
LPs I know of:
1 Darbari and Marwa
Darbari: "Eri birari pir" and "kina bairan kaan bahre" (tooooo good).
The Darbari on Rajan's Kanada post is perhaps better but not by much
(just for being fuller pieces?)
Marwa: "Piya mora anat" and "Guru bina gyan"
Again heart-tugging and superb. Paticularly the vil.
If I had to choose one LP as my all-time favourite, this would be it.
2 Malkauns and Hamsadhwani
Malkauns: "Jin ke man ram biraaje" and "Aaj more ghar aila balama"
The Malkauns vil. khayal "Jin ke man ram biraaje" asthai that is
differently constructed from the many, and is a memorable composition.
The drut I ahve heard others sing but the intensity in the asthai, and
the verve of the bol-taans has not been matched. Can't resist the
whole cheez:
Aaj more ghara aila balama/karungi adarang son ranga raliya
Atara sugandha ajaraga laaon/seja bichhaoon chuna chuna kaliya
Hamsadhwani: "Jai mata vilamba taj de" and tarana "ta nom tadana
tadeem"
Rajan/Warren/Chetan anyone else: can you point to other vil. khayals
in Hamsadhwani, other than the Mewati Maestro's and Kishori's (only
dimly recalled). I wonder if in the opinion of the gurus on RMIC (they
know who they are :) ) this cheez is as original as I have always
thought, a masterwork, or are there other great(er) ones out there?
The tarana is on the "vatapi ganapatim bhaje" pattern, as are many
quickish Hamsadhwanis.
3 Lalit and Megh
Lalit: "Kahan jaage raat" and "Jogiya more ghara aave"
Superb renderings of familiar khayals.
Megh "Barkha ritu ai" and tarana "tadeem tadeem tadena"
Also great.
Accession numbers available on request (allow a few days: I own the
LPs but it is years since I have had a working turntable, so they are
packed away)
Since this thread began with a CD availability query, I do know that I
haven't found the Darbari, Marwa and Malkuans on tape or CD. The
Lalit, Megh and Hamswadhwani are available. Anyone interested in
accession numbers etc can mail me, as I own these and I can
conveniently access the info. Needless to say, I would be specifically
interested in CD versions of these though I have the LPs.
Also on CD are a (quite good) Todi (I think it's Gurjari, though the
label says just Todi) and a Bageshri Kanada/ Abhogi combo.
On tape I know of: Ahir Bhairav, (quite good), Bageshri (quite good)
Jog (superb), Bilaskhani Todi (excellent) and Komal rishbah asavari
(excellent). Except for the last two, I can get the accesion numbers
as I own, or have friends who own, them.
Warmly
Itu
Chetan Vinchhi
Itu Chaudhuri wrote...
>
>The LPs that I know of (all brilliant, I'd extend Rajan's comments to
>all) are so dear to me that I have ended my days as a spectator on
>rmic.
Welcome....
>I don't know if the *same* LPs were converted into tapes. If Muthu is
>right about "Mori aali ri..", then perhaps it wasn't the same
>recording. The Darbari vil. khayal on the LP is, as has been pointed
>out on another post, "Eri birari pir".
Okay here is the deal. The "Enchanting Evenings" album I have
seen is a 4-tape set. I was told that it was a direct re-release of
an earlier LP set. However, I have not seen that set myself.
The pieces on this album are different from the ones you have
mentioned. They are mostly (all?) concert recordings. Although
there is some overlap with your list in terms of raags (Darbari,
Jog, Puriya Dhanashree) the pieces are different in general
as compared to the "studio recorded" LPs. I will post the list
of raags if there is interest.
>2 Malkauns and Hamsadhwani
>
>Malkauns: "Jin ke man ram biraaje" and "Aaj more ghar aila balama"
>
>The Malkauns vil. khayal "Jin ke man ram biraaje" asthai that is
>differently constructed from the many...
Can you elaborate on this? I don't remember this too well -
is the sam on the lower Dha? Are you referring to that?
>On tape I know of: Ahir Bhairav, (quite good), Bageshri (quite good)
>Jog (superb), Bilaskhani Todi (excellent) and Komal rishbah asavari
>(excellent). Except for the last two, I can get the accesion numbers
>as I own, or have friends who own, them.
Some more:
1. "Untitled Raaga", Chandramadhu.
2. Kafi Kanada, Suha Sughrai, Darbari Kannada, Sudh Kalyan, Bihag,
a two CD set from Biswas. Warning: The audio quality is highly
questionable. There are some terrible edits and speed consistency
is suspect.
3. Yaman, Hamsadhwani, Puriya, Abhogi. This is a Navras CD
release. Haven't heard it, but presumably these are concert
recordings that are different from the previously available
stuff.
4. There is an HMV single tape release that contains Kafi
Kanada and a few other pieces.
5. A recent CD release contains a short Adana by Amir Khan
(actually he sings 'jhanak jhanak paayal baaje', perhaps better
known as the title song of the famous V.Shantaram movie)
followed by Bihag and a thumri by Bade Ghulam Ali Khan.
Liner notes say this is all from a single mehfil. However, the
content editing, ordering etc. is so pathetic...
6. There is a single CD/tape Chandni Kedar.
7. A single CD/tape contains three badly edited pieces:
Nand, Darbari Kanada, Bahar.
Any more?
C
Vangal Muthukumar
Chetan Vinchhi wrote:
> The pieces on this album are different from the ones you have
> mentioned. They are mostly (all?) concert recordings. Although
> there is some overlap with your list in terms of raags (Darbari,
> Jog, Puriya Dhanashree) the pieces are different in general
> as compared to the "studio recorded" LPs.
Yes. But I dont think Puriyadhanashree features in this set (or any other
recdg available commercially). Puriya does. The only PuriyaD of Amir Khan
I've heard is a film song whose words I dont remember. (jai jai ..?)
>
> >>The Malkauns vil. khayal "Jin ke man ram biraaje" asthai that is
> >>differently constructed from the many...
>
> >Can you elaborate on this? I don't remember this too well -
> >is the sam on the lower Dha? Are you referring to that?
The sam is on n.
>
>
> Some more:
[....]
> Any more?
Priyakalyan, Lalit (HMV), Bageshri Kanada (CD?)
Sangeet Research Academy, Calcutta has several other recordings
(Bhimpalasi, Marukalyan, etc.), but I suspect mere mortals cannot hope to
access these.
muthu
Nur der BvB!
Chetan Vinchhi
Vangal Muthukumar wrote...
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>
>Yes. But I dont think Puriyadhanashree features in this set
That is quite possible...
>The only PuriyaD of Amir Khan
>I've heard is a film song whose words I dont remember. (jai jai ..?)
tori jai jai kartaar
from Baiju Bawra.
On that note, there is "dayaa kar he giridhar gopal" in Multani
from the film Shabab. Is there a full Multani recording of Amir
Khan?
>> Any more?
>
>Priyakalyan, Lalit (HMV), Bageshri Kanada (CD?)
Haven't heard the Puriyakalyan. Itu mentioned the Bageshree
Kanada / Abhogi CD.
>Sangeet Research Academy, Calcutta has several other recordings
>(Bhimpalasi, Marukalyan, etc.), but I suspect mere mortals cannot hope to
>access these.
They should release some of these archival recordings
commercially. But that is more wishful thinking of a mere
mortal. Sigh.
C
Rajan P. Parrikar
>Hamsadhwani: "Jai mata vilamba taj de" and tarana "ta nom tadana
>tadeem"
>Rajan/Warren/Chetan anyone else: can you point to other vil. khayals
>in Hamsadhwani, other than the Mewati Maestro's and Kishori's (only
>dimly recalled). I wonder if in the opinion of the gurus on RMIC (they
>know who they are :) ) this cheez is as original as I have always
>thought, a masterwork, or are there other great(er) ones out there?
>The tarana is on the "vatapi ganapatim bhaje" pattern, as are many
>quickish Hamsadhwanis.
The "vilambit" (fastish vilambit ektAla, really) by Amir Khan - Jai
mAte vilamba - is a composition of the Bhendibazar master and
one of last century's finest Hindustani composers, Aman Ali
Khan (he influenced Amir Khan in many ways). The famous druta
cheez "lAgi lagana sakhi pati sana" is also Aman Ali's conception
(with his nom de plume 'Amar').
Hamsadhwani is said to have been introduced to Hindustani musicians
by Dikhshitar during his sojourn in the north. Among the earliest
exponents of the rAga were Abdul Karim Khan and Pir Inayat Khan.
In Hindustani music, Hamsadhwani is not considered suitable for
ati-vilambit treatment, and most of the kHayAls adopt a
quicker vilambit laya. S.N. Ratanjankar has composes baDA kHayAls
and even a Sanskrit varNam set to AditAla. Ramashreya Jha "Ramrang"
has some gems, one of which (sakala dukha harana) can be heard
in the Sawf archive. It has also been commercially recorded by
Veena Sahasrabuddhe. Mohammad Hussain Khan the sArangiya, an
understudy of Aman Ali, has composed a baDA kHayAl but his druta
cheez ektAla is better known (jA jA jA re jA balama). There's
an unpublished recording of Bade Ghulam Ali Khan in ADA chautAla
(about the same laya as Amir Khan's Jai mAte vilamba). Time and
weather permitting, I shall post a BGAK clip later in the evening.
There are several instrumental offerings as well. The old
sitar gat in roopak by Ravi Shankar is particularly outstanding.
Warm regards,
r
Vangal Muthukumar
"Rajan P. Parrikar" wrote:
>
>
> .
>
> Hamsadhwani is said to have been introduced to Hindustani musicians
> by Dikhshitar during his sojourn in the north. Among the earliest
> exponents of the rAga were Abdul Karim Khan and Pir Inayat Khan.
> In Hindustani music, Hamsadhwani is not considered suitable for
> ati-vilambit treatment, and most of the kHayAls adopt a
> quicker vilambit laya.
It is true in Carnatica as well. Most kritis are set to a brisk pace. Since
"vAtApi ganapatim..", Ganapati remains the favorite theme of Hamsadhwani
kritis. (There are, of course, exceptions.) So one gets to hear a breezy
Hamsadhwani in the beginning of a conert. Which is amusing, considering
Hamsa-dwani ought to be 'swan song'.
> S.N. Ratanjankar has composes baDA kHayAls
> and even a Sanskrit varNam set to AditAla.
Has someone recorded this piece?
muthu
Nur der BvB!
Warren Senders
>mAte vilamba - is a composition of the Bhendibazar master and
>one of last century's finest Hindustani composers, Aman Ali
>Khan (he influenced Amir Khan in many ways).
Amir Khan's performance is exquisite. I heard Singh Bandhu
perform the same vilambit in much slower tempo many years
back at Sawai G.; I forget the year. It was utterly soporific;
if I recorded it, I've long since reused the tape.
>Mohammad Hussain Khan the sArangiya, an
>understudy of Aman Ali, has composed a baDA kHayAl but his druta
>cheez ektAla is better known (jA jA jA re jA balama)
Mohammad Hussain Khan became a singer somewhat late in
life. While his voice was rather coarse, his style of elaboration
shows a rich array of aesthetically satisfying sarangigenous
twiddles. I am actively seeking recordings of his performances;
I have but one in my collection (a vocal Shivakauns and a sarangi
Pilu). My guruji Devasthalibuwa worked closely with Mohd. Hussain
for seven or eight years and taught me a number of Khansaheb's
bandishes, which are very attractively constructed and deserve
a wider hearing (though the Hamsdhwani pieces Rajan mentions
are, alas, not among the repertoire I learned).
WS
Rajan P. Parrikar
by Bade Ghulam Ali Khan. The quickish vilambit is
set to ADA chautAla of 14 mAtrAs:
http://www.sawf.prohosting.com/rajan/bgak_hamsadhwani.ram
Amir Khan's magnificent Hamsadhwani is readily available.
This snapshot is only for the benefit of those (very few, we
think) who haven't yet heard the masterpiece. The vilambit,
"Jai mAte vilamba," a composition of Aman Ali Khan, is set
to quickish vilambit ektAla. The druta is Amir Khan's own
tarAnA:
http://www.sawf.prohosting.com/rajan/amirkhan_hamsadhwani.ram
Warm regards,
r
Chetan Vinchhi
Itu Chaudhuri wrote...
>
>Hamsadhwani: "Jai mata vilamba taj de" and tarana "ta nom tadana
>tadeem"
>
>in Hamsadhwani, other than the Mewati Maestro's and Kishori's (only
>dimly recalled).
1. Kishori sings "gaNapata vighana haraNa gajaanana".
2. Rajan has already mentioned the Ramrang khayal "sakala
dukha haraNa" (Veena Sahasrabuddhe's recording is readily
available).
3. Ghulam Mustafa Khan has recorded "sapane me aaye
piyaa pyaare".
4. The inimitable duo of Parween/Dilshad have sung "bhaje
saraswati".
5. There is an old khayal in ektaal "maane nahi maane laaDilo
tero shyaam".
C
Itu Chaudhuri
Many thanks for the BGAK. I enjoyed it though I kept hearing tiny
chhayas (pardon the mixed metaphor) of other ragas, perhaps Shankara
(?) and wondered if this (undoubtedly recognisable) Hamasadhwani is
really a good "specimen" of what is Hamsadhawani-like...admittedly in
a soemwaht narrow sense.
On the Todi CD
Amir Khan sings "Ja re ja pathikwa" which also there on your Todi
article, though differently, as a Hridaynath-Lata number. Same bol-s?
Uncharacteristically he seems to be in a hurry to get to the drut, an
impression created by more than just the editing.
When we do get to the drut, we see perhaps why: the beautiful
composition, "Man ke panchhi bhaye baanvare", during which he says
"bol Khusro ke hain, composition mera hai...Khusro wohi hai jisne ke
khayal invent kiya...". While the latter half of the quote may be
simplistic, arguable etc, on the first half, did he really?
Curious.
warmly
Itu
Itu Chaudhuri
> They should release some of these archival recordings
> commercially. But that is more wishful thinking of a mere
> mortal. Sigh.
>
> C
Chetan thanks for the excellent info on several posts, and couldn't
agree with you more about SRA. They arent the only ones who could be
doing better; there are scores of private colectors who appear to
neither listen to their own recordings nor let others nor sell them.
However, there are issues of rights management that crop up here. But
I digress; maybe on another thread.
warmly
Itu Chaudhuri