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kartik...@my-deja.com

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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Can anyone please tell me the arohanam and avarohanam of gorakh kalyan

Also it would be helpfull if you could tell the name of the
corresponding carnatic raga (i.e if it has one)

Thanks


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Lakshman Ragde

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There are two varieties. The chatusvari-shadava type is not very common.
The second type has the following aroha/avaroha: ma
re sa
sa re ma - dha
sa; re ni dha a ma - pa dha ni dha ma re- re sa ni- ni dha sa.. The raga
is put under Khamaj thaat.
There is no exact equivalent of this raga in Karnatak music. Ragas
Andolika and Narayani have some resemblance. Andolika (mela 28) uses sa re
ma pa ni sa; sa ni dha ma re sa and Narayani (mela 28) uses sa re ma pa
dha sa; sa ni dha pa ma re sa.

Lakshman Ragde

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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The aroha of Gorakh Kalyan in my previous posting did not appear correctly
as I had typed. Here it is again:
Sa ma re re ma - sa dha sa; ---etc. The second note (ma), the fourth note
(re) and the sixth note (sa) are kind of superscripted in the reference
book.

david philipson

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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I seem to remember the Karnatik Raga Nat Karanjika uses the same swaras
as Gorakh kalyan, but omits the pa entirely. I hope my memory is intact
on that.

kartik...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Can anyone please tell me the arohanam and avarohanam of gorakh kalyan
>
> Also it would be helpfull if you could tell the name of the
> corresponding carnatic raga (i.e if it has one)
>
> Thanks
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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Rajuasokan

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Mar 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/5/00
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Andholika = Gorakh Kalyan

Lakshman Ragde

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Raga Natakuranji has five different aroha/avarohas in Karnatak music. In
practice a mixture of these is used. There is also a Natakuranji or
Natakuranjika in hindustani music adapted from the south. The scale is:-
ni sa ga ma ga ni sa ri ni sa dha a sa ga ma dha a ma ga ga ma ri sa ri ni
sa ga a a ma. It is a janya of Khammaj thaat.

kartik...@my-deja.com

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Mar 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/6/00
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In article <38C306C9...@sympatico.ca>,

Lakshman Ragde <lra...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Raga Natakuranji has five different aroha/avarohas in Karnatak music.
In
> practice a mixture of these is used.

A point that always confuses me. Now I have heard that Sahana also has
about five different aro-avo.(i am not sure).In fact i have heard that
sahana is a raga that is completely defined actually by its gamaks more
than the aro-avo. what does this meanI always wonder how can a raga have
more than one aro-avo.You say that a mixture of these is used .Can you
shed more light on this with reference to nattaikuranji.

thanks a lot

bye.

David Trasoff

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Mar 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/8/00
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