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Amir Khan - untitled Raga?

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asi...@gmail.com

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Jan 2, 2006, 3:25:08 PM1/2/06
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Hi All,
I was looking to expand my Amir Khan collection and came across this CD
with an untitled Raga by him and Ahir Bhairav and Marwa by Gangubai
Hangal.

http://www.khazana.com/et/products/product.asp?Region=&Country=India&Department=Music&Artist=Gangubai+Hangal&Sub%5FDept=&sku=INMU2034&Next=0&new%5Ftarget=%2Fet%2Fproducts%2Fproduct%5Fby%5Fartist%2Easp&mscsstcid=&mscssid=2744TWSL5FFT9HBQBFM9SJ0X84SS9W75

I would appreciate it if someone who has this CD and has identified
the Raga, would let me know what the raga is.

Thanks
A.

Archisman

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Jan 4, 2006, 2:44:43 AM1/4/06
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asi...@gmail.com wrote:

I have heard from some friends that the raag is called 'chandramadhu'.
I have not heard the recording but as the name suggests, it might be a
mix of chandrakauns & madhuvanti. (How it is different from madhukauns
is a clarification that I seek from the knowledgables here)

Regards-Archie.

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asi...@gmail.com

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Jan 4, 2006, 11:57:54 AM1/4/06
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Thanks Archie...so I finally got the CD...was listening to this
piece...the bandish is 'Paar karo gumnam' with the notes (Ga Ma(teevra)
Pa Ga Sa Pa" Sa ni"(komal) Sa). Where " means the lower octave. So it
has teevra ma, komal ni, and shuddha Ga. Khan sahib also uses the
rishabh and dhaivat occasionally in the sargam...closest I can think
now is Vachaspati. But dont know the raga well enough to identify it
with surety.
Both Madhukauns and Chandrakauns have komal ga...so am not sure if this
is Chandramadhu. I was just searching online and found that there is
another recording of an untitled raga by Amir Khan which has been
identified as Chandramadhu with the bandish - 'E bairan bhai'. Seems a
little unlikely that there would be two bandishes in a (relatively)
obscure raga...
A.

Sanjeev Ramabhadran

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Jan 4, 2006, 1:00:43 PM1/4/06
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Archisman wrote:
> asi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have heard from some friends that the raag is called 'chandramadhu'.
> I have not heard the recording but as the name suggests, it might be a
> mix of chandrakauns & madhuvanti. (How it is different from madhukauns
> is a clarification that I seek from the knowledgables here)
>

Haven't heard this recording, and don't want to assume any
qualifications, but as far as I know they are one and the same. To me,
both names (Madhukauns and Chandramadhu) acknowledge the lurking shadow
(via moorchhana) of Chandrakauns (Madhukauns Sa = Chandrakauns Ma). The
"S g m P" piece in Madhukauns/Chandramadhu is also part of Madhuvanti-
can't remember whether the relatively recent entrant Madhu Malhar uses
this going up, but coming down it surely does.

Sanjeev

Abhimonyu Deb

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Jan 5, 2006, 10:28:59 AM1/5/06
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I am not an expert on Hindustani Classical music (only an enthusiast)
but I know this. The published recording was an excerpt from the last
concert performed by Amir Khan, a few days before he died in a car
accident in Kolkata. The concert was a private recital in the home of
one of his students. He started with Behag in Vilambit Jhumra Taal.
Then he sang the bandish "'Paar Karo Gumnam' in Teentaal. This raga
was his own creation. He died before he could give it a name, but it's
basically a variation of Vachaspati.
Then he sang the raga he called Chandramadhu(also his own creation) in
Vilambit Jhumrataal. Like I said, I'm not an expert but I believe
Mr.Ramabhadran is on the right track about Chandrakauns and Madhumanti.

Amir Khan concluded his concert with Basant Bahar with variations. The
original LP cover gives more details.

Mandar Mitra

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Jan 5, 2006, 11:55:19 PM1/5/06
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> The published recording was an excerpt from the last
> concert performed by Amir Khan

I've been given a private recording with the same bandish (Paar karo
gumna) and Basant Bahar. Perhaps it is another copy of the same
recital.
On my copy, the first piece is labelled Amir Khani Kauns, but can't say

whether that name was given by AK or some devotee.

Abhik may be able to provide further details.

> Then he sang the raga he called Chandramadhu(also his own creation) in
> Vilambit Jhumrataal. Like I said, I'm not an expert but I believe
> Mr.Ramabhadran is on the right track about Chandrakauns and Madhumanti.

AFAIR, this has been discussed in detail earlier on rmic. A search of
Google
Groups should give you more information.

Mandar.

mysticmusician

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Jan 5, 2006, 6:50:14 PM1/5/06
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Hi,
I think have heard this raag by the name of Ram (not Raj) Kalyan.
Adwait

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