Rag Rageshri

[aa...@my-deja.com]

Hi everybody,

I would like to know all the versions of raga Rageshri ( with its Aaroh
and Aavroh). After listening to some recordings, I noticed that some
artists hardly or donot use Shudha Ni in their raga dev. e.g. Vilayat
Khan while rag structure contains both Nis in theory.

Thank you all,
Aaroh

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[sitar...@my-deja.com]

SA far as I know rageshri has only the komal ni, as it it related to
bageshri, and and doesn't include the pancham. I have never heard a
recording or a performance with the suddah ni.. what theory are you
refering to ?

In article <8knqfr$so2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

[maha...@my-deja.com]

Mr. Aaroh is right. There is a Rageshri version which has Suddha Ni
also.

Aaroh, here is what u need,
http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~boppe/MUSIC/RAGA/hraga.html#102

Regards,
Maha

In article <8kt11v$abf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

[maha...@my-deja.com]

Oops, I think the site has some wrong info.

It says,
Aaroh - SG-mDNS'
Aavroh - S'nDmGRS or S'NDmGRS or S'NDnDmGRS

As I surely know, the Rageshree aav. has D m G m R S and not D m G R S.

Any Comments, ePandit Rajan ?

Regards,
Maha

In article <8kvp14$9m5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

maha...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>Oops, I think the site has some wrong info.
>
>It says,
>Aaroh - SG-mDNS'
>Aavroh - S'nDmGRS or S'NDmGRS or S'NDnDmGRS
>
>As I surely know, the Rageshree aav. has D m G m R S and not D m G R S.
>
>Any Comments, ePandit Rajan ?

None whatsoever, eBitch Maha, since you "surely know."

Warm regards,

r

>Regards,
>Maha

[vimal aga]

bhatkhande lists the a:a swaroop as:
S G M D Ni S": S" n D M G R S, thus using both the ni's (i have however,
never heard rageshri with a shuddha ni). bhatkhande also lists a chalan
using both ni's, and then lists two jhaptaal bandishes, one of which uses
both and the other only the komal ni.

raamrang, in his abhinav geetaanjali (vol 2) llists the a:a as:
S G M D n S": S" n D M G R S.
i believe this is how most people sing/play rageshri today. any comments
from the gunijans?

vimal.

[Rajan P. Parrikar]

>bhatkhande lists the a:a swaroop as:
>S G M D Ni S": S" n D M G R S, thus using both the ni's (i have however,
>never heard rageshri with a shuddha ni).

Dear Alumni of the "I-have-never-seen-it-therefore-it-doesn't-exist" school,

The two-nishAd Rageshree is uncommon but not THAT uncommon.
Ratanjankar has a bandish or two with a subtle use of the
shuddha nishAd. Laxmanprasad Jaipurwale's compositions use
both the nishAds with abandon, and there's his wonderful
recording (which I don't have at the moment but will shortly).

On display now, a brief segment of Bismillah Khan's bi-nishAd
Rageshree. The higher shade of nishAd is taken in rather beautifully
in the opening line of the cheez (S R N' S). Occasionally he replaces
it with R n' S.

http://www.parrikar.prohosting.com/bismil_rageshree.ram

(the clip will be taken off by the end of this week)

>using both ni's, and then lists two jhaptaal bandishes, one of which uses
>both and the other only the komal ni.
>
>raamrang, in his abhinav geetaanjali (vol 2) llists the a:a as:
>S G M D n S": S" n D M G R S.

I wish you would be more circumspect. In the accompanying discussion
Jha-sahab also talks about the 'other' Rageshree.

Warm regards,

r

ps: One type of Khambavati has resemblance (there are important
differences) to the 'unishAd' (n-type) Rageshree. See any
Atrauli-Jaipur rendition for an example.

[maha...@my-deja.com]

Why are u p*ssed off ?? I honestly asked ur comments because u
always have something interesting unheard information to add and I
really respect u for that.

I am sorry I asked u. It will never happen in future.

Regards,
Maha

In article <8l00kb$25...@drn.newsguy.com>,

[aa...@my-deja.com]

Hi everybody,

Thank you all for reply.

Sitarwala, I think i read it on CD cover booklet.

Thank you Maha for the link. It was very informative.

aaroh

In article <8kvp14$9m5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
maha...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Mr. Aaroh is right. There is a Rageshri version which has Suddha Ni
> also.
>
> Aaroh, here is what u need,
> http://www.aoe.vt.edu/~boppe/MUSIC/RAGA/hraga.html#102
>
> Regards,
> Maha
>
> In article <8kt11v$abf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> sitar...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > SA far as I know rageshri has only the komal ni, as it it related to
> > bageshri, and and doesn't include the pancham. I have never heard a
> > recording or a performance with the suddah ni.. what theory are you
> > refering to ?
> >
> > In article <8knqfr$so2$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > aa...@my-deja.com wrote:
> > > Sorry for multiple posts. I screwed up by reloading the posted
page.
> > >
> > > Aaroh
> > >

[ChristianAMR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_iTMxnlPDE - Ud Salamat + Na. - vilamb. , drut , tarana teental

[ChristianAMR]

Pancham Rageshri , or Rageshri Pancham
Tanarang has 2 phrases .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k0xXSbqQp4 -- Vidushi Mandira Lahiri /Ragas Created by Sangeet Acharya Chinmoy Lahiri