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The Cheen
talking. The subject of rap came up. I tried to explain to him that Mos Def,
Common, Roots, Jurassic 5, are great while Big Tymers, Juvenile, Nelly, etc are
completely wack. He refused to believe me and kept saying 'if they were good
more people would like them and theyd be known'. So I bring over J5 and the
Roots. The kid didnt like them! He says about J5 'they sound like theyre from
the 80s, theyre horrible' - then about the Roots "their style sucks". To top it
off he thinks Life After Death is better than Ready to Die - and Illmatic is
just ok.
I understand people have differences in opinion, but I was just wondering if
anyone else has had frustrating experiences like this.
Paul Nijmeijer
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I get mad when people say that Nelly/Puffy/Ma$e/Will Smith is dope BECAUSE
he is #1 in the charts...that f'''''''n insane!!
Will Smith isn't even a rapper.
Vadik
--
'Im 19, so you better respect me, bein yo elder and all'
-- T.J. Xenos
David Richardson
both have a uniqueness in their flow and delivery. I wouldn't buy their
album though because I'm not feelin that but I believe they are good(not
great) MCs. But pretty much everybody else in cash money is wack. I've been
enjoying hiphop for over 20 years(I still play my Steady B and Tat money
vinyl ) :).
Later
"The Cheen" <itsc...@aol.com> wrote in message
Bill Johnson
> Will Smith isn't even a rapper.
he isn't?
--me--
Tony1er
Today me and some kid that lives around here were just chilling on his porch
talking. The subject of rap came up. I tried to explain to him that Mos Def,
Common, Roots, Jurassic 5, are great while Big Tymers, Juvenile, Nelly, etc are
completely wack. He refused to believe me >>
wait, let me get this straight...he actually had the nerve to think those
groups are wack? damn, the nerve of some people. That kinda shit gets me
heated. i think I'll go cool off and listen to this roots mixtape a made cause
we all know it doesn't get any better then that!
later tony
Paul Nijmeijer
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> Paul Nijmeijer wrote:
> > Will Smith isn't even a rapper.
>
> he isn't?
well, you don't call THAT rap, do you?
Will is just rhyming a few words.
Rikki O
porch
> talking. The subject of rap came up. I tried to explain to him that Mos
Def,
> Common, Roots, Jurassic 5, are great while Big Tymers, Juvenile, Nelly,
etc are
good
> more people would like them and theyd be known'. So I bring over J5 and
the
> Roots. The kid didnt like them! He says about J5 'they sound like theyre
from
> the 80s, theyre horrible' - then about the Roots "their style sucks". To
top it
> off he thinks Life After Death is better than Ready to Die - and Illmatic
is
> just ok.
>
> I understand people have differences in opinion, but I was just wondering
if
> anyone else has had frustrating experiences like this.
well i don't really like j5 (except for cc's beats) and the roots all that
much neither, and i do like juvenile somewhat, but i understand what you're
getting at. things like that used to bother me until i realized it was a
lost cause. all that matters is that i'm the controlling factor to what gets
played at home and in the ride!
R Walsh
inferior to rappers or groups we like. To each his own, and in this
situation if they dig Juve and Nelly let them. Who cares? I don't know why
every hip hop head has the feeling they have to preach the 'real shit' and
prove how 'wack' most of the stuff they listen to is. Quit preaching, just
sit back and enjoy what YOU like to listen to...
If someone tried to convince me that country is tight and how its so much
better than what I listen to, I definitely would not be hearing that. Same
thing as trying to get one person who listens to mainstream rap to listen to
underground rap.
I mean sometimes you wish your favorite artists would make millions like
some of those other rappers, but thats life i know mad crazy intelligent
cats who work dead end jobs. And anyways once they usually go big time,
their music suffers and we don't hear what we wanna hear from them anyways.
quest19...@webtv.net
chilling on his porch talking. The subject of rap came up. I tried to
explain to him that Mos Def, Common, Roots, Jurassic 5, are great while
Big Tymers, Juvenile, Nelly, etc are completely wack. He refused to
believe me and kept saying 'if they were good more people would like
them and theyd be known'. >>
Truth be told, we do it in this newsgroup. I personally think Jay-Z is
booty, while I maintain that, lyrically speaking, a gang of MCs from the
West Coast can more than hold their own with our so-called East Coast
heavyweights. What you have to also recognize is that Hip Hop, while
professing unity, is regionally segmented. So in the South(me being from
Mississippi now living in the Illadelph), the people you said were wack
are like gods to most fans there. Then the biggest weapon, IMO, that
they have is marketing/label backing. The Dilated Peoples, Styles of
Beyond, The Roots, and the like have deals but because of their type of
"rap", that's not what the natives really want to hear, so it's
believed. It's like that in the other fields of entertainment too. Why
does(for the most part) UPN and WB cater to showing blacks in sitcoms
ONLY? The thought is: just keep 'em laughing. In Hip Hop, the golden age
MC sought to have you dance while at the same time, stimulate your mind.
Now, it's just shaking your ass, driving in a Lex coupe, thuggin',
pimpin'---all the things that are assumed particularly "urban kids" can
relate to. Lastly, Hip Hop has taken on an almost religious fervor of
"backpackers" vs. the "jiggy". So where's the "real" Hip Hop you ask?
Somewhere in the middle. And you are the judge.
PEACE!
Big AL
porch
> talking. The subject of rap came up. I tried to explain to him that Mos
Def,
> Common, Roots, Jurassic 5, are great while Big Tymers, Juvenile, Nelly,
etc are
> completely wack.
It's all down to your own oppinion! You are saying he is wrong because his
view is different to yours!
You are trying to force your oppinions on your friend in my oppinion, and
that is wrong!
I like the roots, lox, dmx, jay-z, de la soul, outkast. ALl of them have
good and bad songs. It's all down to personal oppinion!
> He refused to believe me and kept saying 'if they were good
> more people would like them and theyd be known'.
I was wondering, do you like the groups that you like because they are *not
all that famous*????
Are you one of these that hates anything commercial???
> So I bring over J5 and the
> Roots. The kid didnt like them! He says about J5 'they sound like theyre
from
> the 80s, theyre horrible'
I can see his point, though I don't agree with it at all!
> - then about the Roots "their style sucks".
A lot of people in here think they are "borring".
> To top it
> off he thinks Life After Death is better than Ready to Die - and Illmatic
is
> just ok.
A lot of people agree with that!
I know that not everyone rates Illmatic.
And personnally I don't like biggie all that much, as his voice annoys me!
The fact is that it doesn't really matter who you like, as long as you are
happy with that choice!
Peace
Big AL
Dead by Dawn
hip-hop? How are they any less hip-hop than J5 or the Roots? Face it,
it's all hip-hop, or none of it is. Deal with it.
--
D-Clan: Raised in the suburbs, singin songs for survival.
ICQ#: 13425718
AIM: ephonics 101
The Cheen <itsc...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Today me and some kid that lives around here were just chilling on his
porch
> talking. The subject of rap came up. I tried to explain to him that Mos
Def,
> Common, Roots, Jurassic 5, are great while Big Tymers, Juvenile, Nelly,
etc are
> completely wack. He refused to believe me and kept saying 'if they were
good
> more people would like them and theyd be known'. So I bring over J5 and
the
> Roots. The kid didnt like them! He says about J5 'they sound like theyre
from
> the 80s, theyre horrible' - then about the Roots "their style sucks". To
top it
> off he thinks Life After Death is better than Ready to Die - and Illmatic
is
> just ok.
>
Jonathan Sage Beier
> I don't like Big Tymers, Juvenile, or Nelly, but how are they not "real"
> hip-hop? How are they any less hip-hop than J5 or the Roots? Face it,
> it's all hip-hop, or none of it is. Deal with it.
Charli Tuna (of J5) made just this point at the Word of Mouth tour in
Santa Cruz this past friday. (or was it someone else? *so* many rappers,
*so* many djs, *such* a damn good show!)
=jonathan
Dead by Dawn
--
D-Clan: Raised in the suburbs, singin songs for survival.
ICQ#: 13425718
AIM: ephonics 101
Jonathan Sage Beier <jsb...@stanford.edu> wrote in message
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droctane22
Rick Nariani
As long as people respect the genre, who cares who's representing it for
them... some people think nelly and will smith are tight. Some heads like
common and mos def. Whats the difference? none... both like rap, and thats
all that counts.
Rick
meenan
itsc...@aol.com (The Cheen) wrote:
> Today me and some kid that lives around here were just chilling on his porch
> talking. The subject of rap came up. I tried to explain to him that Mos Def,
> Common, Roots, Jurassic 5, are great while Big Tymers, Juvenile, Nelly, etc are
> completely wack. He refused to believe me and kept saying 'if they were good
> more people would like them and theyd be known'. So I bring over J5 and the
> Roots. The kid didnt like them! He says about J5 'they sound like theyre from
> the 80s, theyre horrible' - then about the Roots "their style sucks". To top it
> off he thinks Life After Death is better than Ready to Die - and Illmatic is
> just ok.
>
> I understand people have differences in opinion, but I was just wondering if
> anyone else has had frustrating experiences like this.
>
honestly...you shouldn't be frustrated. Sure, you see things a certain
way, and would like your crew--and everyone else--to see the same way.
That will never happen. While I always like to play some atmosphere for
anyone willing to listen....I really don't trip if they don't like it.
If they do, that's dope. Same in your situation....you may never agree
(well, probably on something like outkast), but that's not the issue.
SHow heads new things--that's what it's all about. Let them show you.
BUT, let them take what they want out of music, and you do the same.
When you need to 'explain' to someone why certain shit is ill...and other
shit isn't, chances are you're doing the wrong thing. While you may not
like his logic (and I really don't either)...it's all gravy.
Two things--1) you don't have to lend him your CDs
2) your friends aren't your friends simply because of what's
in their headphones.....
Peace,
Meenan
(has to listen to nelly with cousin all the time.....hangs out with a 23
year old chick that likes brittney, backstreet, etc.--it's all gravy)
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"Big AL" <al...@dicksonzzz.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> It's all down to your own oppinion! You are saying he is wrong
because his
> view is different to yours!
> You are trying to force your oppinions on your friend in my oppinion,
and
> that is wrong!
Exactly! to each his own. i learned a long time ago not to force my
musical tastes onto other people. Instead i'll just plsy something in
the background for a while and eventually people will come up to me and
tell me to turn my shit off, but other times they're like 'hey, thats
pretty good what is it?'. i got my boss into The Pharcyde just like
that - if you can imagine a balding guy in his late 30's bumping 'Ya
Mamma' in his hatchback ; ]
- tL
'you can't out-slick a can of oil' - Guru
Fatboy Roberts
<chess...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>"Bill Johnson" <brain...@thejawn.com> schreef in bericht
>news:3A058B34...@thejawn.com...
>> Paul Nijmeijer wrote:
>> > Will Smith isn't even a rapper.
>>
>> he isn't?
>
>well, you don't call THAT rap, do you?
>Will is just rhyming a few words.
>
You're trippin. I may dis the shit out of Will, but I wouldn't ever
say the man doesn't have skills on a microphone. He may be wasting
them recently, but he DOES have them. He has crafted a bonafide hip
hop classic, maybe two.
Never thought I'd be defending Will,
Fatboy
The Cheen
good points, I hadnt thought of it that way before.
I definitely made a mistake by saying 'real hip hop', as there is no true
definition of that.
I guess Im almost desperate to get a friend I can talk to about the Roots, J5,
etc, that I was trying to convert a mainstream fan into more of my style of
music, which I shouldnt do.
I just get frustrated sometimes when Ill be over their houses and theyll be
blastin 'Wobble Wobble' or something, then when I throw in 'Quality Control'
its quickly disregarded simply because it isnt a hard beat going to some lyrics
about gold chains and street life, made to pump your adrenaline.
To the person that asked if I hate everything commercial - no. But alot of
times I wont hate it at first, but then it gets played out until I hate it. I
got The Marshall Mathers LP the day it came out and loved 'The Way I Am', but
now Im completely sick of it. That reminds me, Eminem is mainstream and Im a
fan of him.
GoldenChild
always wanna put somebody on to somethin'. Cats like you always look at
me and you might see me listenin' to Jay-Z or another commercial artists
I might happen to like and you automatically assume I don't know shit
about Hip-Hop, then we get into a discussion and I blow your ass away.
Ya'll newjacks always wanna say "What?! You like so-n-so but you don't
like The Backpack Boys? are you crazy?!" C'mon bruh, give it a rest,
what you like isn't necessarily what the rest of the World has to like.
Other people relate to different shit than you, other people might be
looking for a different sound than you. Personally, I know ALOT about
Hip-Hop, old school and new school, I been around it, raised in it, born
in it, lived in it my whole life, but what the fuck, I hate Jurassic 5,
thats the corniest group ever to me, with their fuckin' sing-a-longs
about nothing, In videos eatin' niggas hamburgers and shit. You must be
a young dude, but you came about a year too late to this Newsgroup.
About a year ago, 98% of this NG was just like you, whether they'll
admit it or not, I had to chip away at their skull and get it in their
head that underground doesn't automatically mean dope, and comemrcial
doesn't automatically mean wack, and I think they knew that from jump,
they just needed a while to admit I was right. But yo, just keep
listenin' to what you like, and let the rest of the World do the same,
there's niggas that'll punch you in the face for that silly Hip-Hop
supremecist bullshit. One Love.
"I heard the word on the street is Jay-Z can't go back home, you know
when I heard that? when I was back home"
GoldenChild
threw on "Quality Control", I'd be pissed too. I know exactly how your
friends feel, they're listenin' to this 'get hype' shit thats makin' 'em
feel right, and then you throw on this boring backpacker shit. It's like
C'mon son, let us live, go play that shit in the privacy of your own
home if you wanna hear it, stop forcin' in on us. There's this DJ at
this club in Bronx, thats always tryin' to break some new wack ass
underground record. The thing is, the underground shit he throws on
isn't necessarily bad, it's just not appropriate at the time, and he
clears out the floor with that shit. I don't wanna hear J5 in the club,
I wanna hear some wack ass Cash Money shit, you damn right, 'cause thats
what it's meant for. All these cats that are scolding you for what you
did to that kid were doin' the same shit as you a year ago like I said,
stop tryin' to stunt ya'll, I remember that shit. Eminem, The Roots, and
Oukast are always the exception for kids with backpacker syndrome, it's
okay to like other people too, nobody is gonna care or call you less
Hip-Hop, if they do then they're fuckin' stupid anyway. Peace.
"When I merked it hurt kinda/ took it as a brief reminder/ that the
streets designed to stop your lifeclock, the beast will time ya" - Nas -
GoldenChild
Millions and how MC Skateboard doesn't even go tin, but then when
they're once underground favorite MC goes platinum then they don't like
him anymore 'cause everyone knows about him. You can't win with these
kids.
"On my first album the World loved me 'cause they thought I was poor/
now I sold 5 Million, they don't love me no more"
Kuahmel Allah
this club in Bronx, thats always tryin' to break some new wack ass
underground record. The thing is, the underground shit he throws on
isn't necessarily bad, it's just not appropriate at the time, and he
clears out the floor with that shit.<<<
Give him an E for effort though....he's got more balls than most of these club
and radio DJs.....
--Kuahmel Allah, Los Angeles
"L. O. L., semi-colon, parentheses."--Nick Burns
"Look...I'm Beck!!"--Conan O'Brien
"Drink ya school, stay in drugs, and don't do milk!"--Mr. T
"Why not sprinkle some of MY vibrant conversation flakes into the mix?"--Joel
The Cheen
was saying.
I was mostly showing my frustration at people who only like commerial ish, and
dont give anything else a chance.
I dont 'force' my music on people. But after awhile of Juvenile and Mystikal, I
put it The Roots or something and it is automatically thought of as wack
because theyre not all aggressive, and not rapping about gold chains.
>Cats like you always look at
>me and you might see me listenin' to Jay-Z or another commercial artists
>I might happen to like and you automatically assume I don't know shit
>about Hip-Hop, then we get into a discussion and I blow your ass away.
No. But when you only listen to commercial artists and refuse to listen to
something else then I consider you close-minded.
The Cheen
Whats a 'backpacker' ?
DJ MF
The Cheen wrote:
> No. But when you only listen to commercial artists and refuse to listen to
> something else then I consider you close-minded.
Likewise, when YOU only listen to underground and noncommercial acts, I consider
you closeminded....
MF
i l l i c i t
groups, J5, The Roots, Common, Mos Def and... wait for it... Jay-Z.
you have it so easy....
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Todd Ito
anyway, juvenile is a nicer emcee than anyone in jurassic 5.
todd
The Cheen <itsc...@aol.com> wrote:
: Today me and some kid that lives around here were just chilling on his porch
D12Central
Damn. Y'all are comin down waaay to hard on this kid. I feel what you other
people are saying - but I also feel what hes saying.
Hes saying he gets tired of his boys bumpin Cash Money and when he throws in
something of his own flavor its automatically rejected, and it frustrates him.
Somehow y'all turned this kid into some commercial-hatin backpacker.
He didnt say underground was better than commercial, he just said his favorite
artists (Mos Def, J5, Roots) were also worthy of some playing time in the cd
player when hes chillin with his friends. I agree. He puts up with their music,
they should put up with his music.
I agree 100%.
Y'all are too quick to attack someone.
DJ MF
D12Central wrote:
> >Looks like another case of backpacker syndrome to me.....
>
> Damn. Y'all are comin down waaay to hard on this kid. I feel what you other
> people are saying - but I also feel what hes saying.
>
> Hes saying he gets tired of his boys bumpin Cash Money and when he throws in
> something of his own flavor its automatically rejected, and it frustrates him.
actually, he stated that he tried to tell his friends that what they were listening
to was wack, and that what he was listening to was good, and "real" hip hop.
MF
The Cheen
>Likewise, when YOU only listen to underground and noncommercial acts, I
>consider
>you closeminded....
>
Read all the posts. Ive already posted that I like mainstream stuff. I
mentioned Eminem.
meenan
it in their head that underground doesn't automatically mean dope, and
comemrcial doesn't automatically mean wack, and I think they knew that
from
jump, they just needed a while to admit I was right. "
damn, goldenchild.....thanks....you sure have changed my life in the past
year or so. sure, it took a lil chipping....but you sure have shown me
the way. I'd have never seen shyne as such an ill MC...and realized that
I'm supoposedd to wear my ORANGE armani frames with my yellow
avirex....but only in the fall. NOw I can REALLY FEEL jah rule as well,
and see that anyone trying to push the envelope is nothing but a queer
backpacker anyway.
Thanks again.....(THUMBS UP!!!)
Meenan
GoldenChild
lil' ho about it, and that silly ass image is a complete stereotype, is
it not? But can you sit there and really honestly tell me that I
haven't had a strong impact on this group? Be real cousin...I'm like the
fuckin' equal rights activist up in this mothafucka, I fought long and
hard with alot of cats and here and now it's a lil' but less uptight in
here because of it, and also, people are aloud to be more honest without
feeling like they're gonna be flamed...partially because of me.
Legendary Sensaye, RMHH Hall of Fame. One L.
"When niggas hate on me, I don't cock back and blast at 'em/ I drive by
'em with their bitch and laugh at 'em"
Natty GoGo
DJ MF wrote:vor its automatically rejected, and it frustrates him.
>
> actually, he stated that he tried to tell his friends that what they were listening
> to was wack, and that what he was listening to was good, and "real" hip hop.
>
I was listening to "Real Hip Hop" just the other day. Dope Primo beat, and further
proof that Books and Drayze have mad skills!! Odd that I'm becoming a Das Efx fanatic
lately. Always liked them, but now I starting to really LOVE them.
peas,
d
Dead by Dawn
news:3A075CA5...@pacbell.net...
What albums of theirs should I look out for that came out after Dead Serious
and Straight Up Sewaside?
quest19...@webtv.net
activist up in this mothafucka, I fought long and hard with alot of cats
and here and now it's a lil' but less uptight in here because of it, and
also, people are aloud to be more honest without feeling like they're
gonna be flamed...partially because of me.>>
I think you're being a little grandiose about your "changing the game"
in our collective. I knew I had(as does the rest of the collective) the
right to voice my opinions, and defend them(flame or no flame), long
before I knew who you were. I've been down with the collective a little
over 4 years now, maybe you were here before me, but "equal right
activist"? IMO, that's stretching it a bit. It's sort of insulting when
you assert that you made the collective's inalienable right that much
better "partially because of you fighting long and hard". For what?
Never do I try to start anything with my peers in the group, as we are
here to share Hip Hop views, but I just want to get some clarity on your
almost condescending view of the collective.
PEACE!
Shaun G. Smith
Paul Nijmeijer wrote:
> "Bill Johnson" <brain...@thejawn.com> schreef in bericht
> news:3A058B34...@thejawn.com...
> > Paul Nijmeijer wrote:
> > > Will Smith isn't even a rapper.
> >
> > he isn't?
>
> well, you don't call THAT rap, do you?
> Will is just rhyming a few words.
>
What makes this silly statement any different than the one in the
original
post?
Shaun G.
TJ Xenos
>anyway, juvenile is a nicer emcee than anyone in jurassic 5.
no shit. The beatss are just as hot too, albeit completely different.
T.J. Xenos
xen...@student.wit.edu
"Even her baby daddy say the pussy aint what it used to be"
"im about to save hiphop like ghost did the wu"
"I turn pretty boys into craig mack"
"your crew is wack like chocolate Reese's"
Brent Stanley
voice my opinion before i read your posts. i got nothin against you man, but
you're claimin to be more than you are.
backpackin,
-PHaSE.1
(bs...@yourmom.com)
In article <26257-3A...@storefull-215.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Legonda...@webtv.net says...
>
>If it doesn't apply then let it fly, crybaby, don't start actin' like a
>lil' ho about it, and that silly ass image is a complete stereotype, is
>it not? But can you sit there and really honestly tell me that I
>haven't had a strong impact on this group? Be real cousin...I'm like the
>fuckin' equal rights activist up in this mothafucka, I fought long and
>hard with alot of cats and here and now it's a lil' but less uptight in
>here because of it, and also, people are aloud to be more honest without
>feeling like they're gonna be flamed...partially because of me.
meenan
means that much to you to be 'influential' to a bunch of heads YOU Don't
KNOW.....then don't let me get in your way.
Regarding the image...of course it was a stereotype.....of course it was
exaggerated...but so is your view of yourself...that was my point. If
you want to believe that your--or anyone's-- posts actually have an
impact on me or others, feel free. I impact people in real life.....not
on here.
Crybaby? Hardly. I was merely picturing a cat who actually took your
'influence,' and translated that picture into words. IF you were
offended, then you spent too much time on it.
To each his own.....If this "RMHH hall of fame" is your goal, I won't
stand in your way....but I will continue to make fun of such ridiculous
statements.
Hater for life....
Meenan
(chances are....you won't be taking any females from me, either....but
believe what you want.)
In article <26257-3A...@storefull-215.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Legonda...@webtv.net (GoldenChild) wrote:
> If it doesn't apply then let it fly, crybaby, don't start actin' like a
> lil' ho about it, and that silly ass image is a complete stereotype, is
> it not? But can you sit there and really honestly tell me that I
> haven't had a strong impact on this group? Be real cousin...I'm like the
> fuckin' equal rights activist up in this mothafucka, I fought long and
> hard with alot of cats and here and now it's a lil' but less uptight in
> here because of it, and also, people are aloud to be more honest without
> feeling like they're gonna be flamed...partially because of me.
> Legendary Sensaye, RMHH Hall of Fame. One L.
>
> "When niggas hate on me, I don't cock back and blast at 'em/ I drive by
> 'em with their bitch and laugh at 'em"
>
>
bodyrott
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DJ MF
Thursdays, from 6 to 8, on 100.3.....and then right after that, you can listen to
the Wax Jungle(another hip hop show) from 8-10
All in the PM of course.
MF
Kuahmel Allah
Whats a 'backpacker' ?
<<<
I've been asking someone to clearly definie it for weeks now. No one on this
board has done it yet.....
Kuahmel Allah
They're all on a par to me....I'd do a record with any one of those six, as
long as I controlled the scenario....
Flashdj
>He didnt say underground was better than commercial, he just said his
>favorite
>artists (Mos Def, J5, Roots) were also worthy of some playing time in the cd
>player when hes chillin with his friends. I agree. He puts up with their
>music,
>they should put up with his music.
>
>I agree 100%.
>
>Y'all are too quick to attack someone.
Word.
I think this thread went platinum, BTW.
Guess we can't like it anymore now that it's achieved commercial fame!
Signed,
You-Know-Hoo!
Rikki O
Kuahmel Allah <chthont...@aol.comeonnow> wrote in message
news:20001107113036...@ng-bg1.aol.com...
> >>>>Looks like another case of backpacker syndrome to me.....
>
> Whats a 'backpacker' ?
> <<<
>
> I've been asking someone to clearly definie it for weeks now. No one on
this
> board has done it yet.....
i'm guessing most of rmhh would probably say an underground head who shits
on mainstream artists just for the hell of it, and they usually wear a
backpack for i don't know what reason. snacks?
J. Whelan
diss you for listetning to them, what do you care?
Kayal
just got back from krs1. it was really good, but short. rahzel did a
slamming guest appearance. anyway, I got a flyer for the "anti-
backpack" consortium record...lord finesse and pharaohe monch are on
it, don't remember anything else...and too lazy to get my purse from
the next room.
after the concert my friend and I went to Enye for a drink and the
bartender was changing cd's. put on some hiphop said my friend. oh, I
like hiphop said the bartender. we just came from seeing krs1, said
I. who? she asked. I was like, hello? you said you like hiphop, who
do you like? Oh, I like the fugees and lauryn hill and wee-clef, she
said. I felt very very very bad for Lauryn at that moment.
GoldenChild
whether my character seems exagerrated to you or not, this is me. What
do you think, just because I'm an influential figure in here that I'm
automatically not influential in real life? Please...I've influenced
over 50 Women into givin' me dome in the last 3 1/2 years. Nah, but
seriously, I'm just TAKING credit where credit is due, 'cause alot of
ya'll just hate to give it out, even where it's deserved. I have changed
this NG ALOT, I'll even go as far as to say I've been the most
influential poster within the last two years, and It's not like thats
somethin' I take pride in, like I walk around at work sayin' "Haha,
those fucks would be nothin' without me", I just want it to be
acknowledged or 'admitted' would be a better word when you're dealin'
with this group. You remember how much niggas used to get torn apart in
here for sayin' they like an artists that noone else in here liked?!
They would get verbally murdered. Then I came with this attitude like
"Fuck what ya'll think, I'm stickin' with this", and I got flamed
everyday for like a year for it, until people finally said "Well, damn,
I guess that arrogant fuck really does feel that way", and I earned a
respect in here for stickin' to my guns so persistently, and it made it
easier for everyone else to admit shit they could've never admitted
before, or to just be more honest and not cater so much to everyone
elses attitude and opinions. I don't even know why I'm explainin' this,
'cause niggas know what I'm talkin' about whether they'll admit to it or
not. As far as the RMHH hall of fame thing, c'mon, I was only jokin'
obviously, hike your fuckin' skirt up and don't get so heated. BUT, if
there was a RMHH Hall of Fame I'd be in there no question unless niggas
pulled a Pete Rose on me and Black balled me. Most Influential, Most
Platinum posts, Most contraversial, and most importantly I'm a voice in
here and a character, you know why that is? 'Cause Im myself, and I
don't got a fake ass attitude and I don't cater to anyone. There's cats
in here that have been floatin' around forever and mufukkas still don't
know who they are, it's 'cause they don't got personality, but Sensaye
on the contrary..you get the picture. I'm a ill mothafucka. I'm talkin'
ill like a chick Magic Johnson and Eazy-E ran triz on. One Love.
Legendary Sensaye...RMHH Hall of Fame.
Fatboy Roberts
Legonda...@webtv.net (GoldenChild) wrote:
"Haha,
> those fucks would be nothin' without me", I just want it to be
> acknowledged or 'admitted' would be a better word when you're dealin'
> with this group. You remember how much niggas used to get torn apart
in
> here for sayin' they like an artists that noone else in here liked?!
> They would get verbally murdered.
Actually...I always thought this was a skewed perception on your part.
I been around longer than you, and I'm kinda independent in my tastes
just like you are: I like what I like, fuck if the newsgroup thinks
different. But I don't think the variety and volume of personal attacks
based on musical preference has decreased since you got on, and
DEFINITELY not because you got on. If anything, Personal attacks
because of musical preference seem to have INCREASED lately. people
dont' discuss the music so much as say "this is what I like, and fuck
you if you don't agree." and then we get little flamefests. Not like
this is overrunning the newsgroup, as a matter of fact it's STILL a
small amount of posts, but it is growing. As far as spurring people to
talk? I'm not gonna say you didn't. You probably did..but shit like
that happens all the time, with lots of people.
Now the perception you have that this newsgroup hates pop music, hates
people that listen to it, and will defend their position blindly and to
the point of being lil bitches about it, I think that's off..but that's
just my perception. (and my perception of your perception is probably
off, too...gotta love usenet psychoanalysis.) This group's biggest
subjects and threads are ALWAYS on more popular rappers. Back when you
first showed up, Popular subjects and objects of praise were Jay-Z,
Biggie, Nas..there was dissenting talk, but for real, people weren't
shitting on em. Not in the amounts that you always said they were. Then
again, that's just my perception. Sure, there were snotty fucks, but
there's ALWAYS snotty fucks, and that hasn't changed, and you didn't
change it. Yo, there's probably people out who consider YOU one of the
snotty fucks who shits on people blindly for their musical taste, who
group people into ridiculously large stereotypes and makes sweeping
generalizations about fans of certain types of music just like you do
to others, and you know, they're wrong...and right, too..
I'm not saying you don't contribute to the group. You do. But I don't
think you've changed the shit any. I don't think ANYONE has. *Maybe*
just maybe, Kari did, but that's only because a couple posters (Flash,
for one) have admitted they tried to bite his style way back, but
that's not to say Kari started a trend up in here. Maybe he did. Or
maybe he was just one of the better writers during a time period where
it seems a LOT of people were looking at the music, the artform, with a
keener eye, and people looked at him different. But it's not like the
group didn't approach different topics, or approach topics in a
different manner at the same time, either. Either way, I'm sayin maybe
your vision of your importance in things is skewed by your perception
of how shit was when you got here as opposed to how shit REALLY was.
That said, I don't think there's a person on here that don't check for
your shit. but that don't mean you influence them. If you could
influence a large group of people through postings to a usenet
messageboard, I would hope you'd be out like, runnin for office or some
shit instead of wasting those amazing persuasive talents up in this
motherfucker.
And now to get egotistical:
> BUT, if
> there was a RMHH Hall of Fame I'd be in there no question unless
niggas
> pulled a Pete Rose on me and Black balled me. Most Influential, Most
> Platinum posts,
Yo. *I* got the most platinum posts, fool! I was postin platinum before
you was rockin that junk jewelry over a Pubu jersey. That's right.
Pubu.
> Legendary Sensaye...RMHH Hall of Fame.
First, Battle of the RMHH'ers (that never got finished, either. That
sucks.) and now, the RMHH hall of fame. How long before a thread gets
started ;)
10 days to armageddon,
Fatboy
Rikki O
> Please man...I'm not someone who is just a character on the internet,
> whether my character seems exagerrated to you or not, this is me.
allow me to throw in my i can't fall asleep two cents. i'll admit, i
sometimes think you might exaggerate an ounce or two but even so i've never
doubted your authenticity. i've never thought of you as a fraud or anything
like that. the thing that gets me is, you often advocate your own
accusations. i don't know if you're blind to the matter or you feel you have
the right because you think you're in the minority but, you're just as
biased as anyone else here. that's not to say i think of anyone here as
close minded individuals (anything but actually), but it seems either you
have a hard time distinguishing between preference and diversity or you
simply play the victim whenever things don't flow your way. like kool keith
of late, you love to make yourself the target which has often been the basis
of your arguments. but you know, i guess that's what really makes you you
and i can't front on your witty debating skills and hector macho
camacho-like charisma. in the least, i always get a good laugh out of your
posts...laughing with you, not at you.
Steve Jackson
Thoughts"-style posts, I'm the MINIC-- Most Influential Nocka In Charge.
Anyway, I always find it comical to discuss who's more influential on
RMHH. And maybe I missed that whole seris of threads, but what
constitutes a platinum post? Has anyone's post gone diamond yet? Who
gets the Lifetime Acheivement of Award? Hey, has anyone thought of the
RMHH awards? Wait, I think that idea comes around at the end of the year.
--
Steve S. Jackson "Jazz"
(Poet, Philosopher, Instrumentalist, Video Documentarian, Jazzy Smurf)
s...@astro.temple.edu*|*sjac...@nimbus.temple.edu
http://thunder.temple.edu/~ssj
"You're only scared to die if you're not living right..."
--Talib Kweli,"Good Mourning"
Fatboy Roberts
Steve Jackson <s...@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu> wrote:
> I would just like to point out that as founder and creator of
the "Random
> Thoughts"-style posts, I'm the MINIC-- Most Influential Nocka In
Charge.
OH SHIT.
I completely forgot. I, as a biter of the random style, I must bow down
and give props where due.
> Anyway, I always find it comical to discuss who's more influential on
> RMHH.
No shit, that's what I was thinking...and then I went and analyzed the
shit..something about Bush/Gore had my brain warped.
And maybe I missed that whole seris of threads, but what
> constitutes a platinum post?
GC set the standard himself, I believe. Gold=25 replies Platinum = 50.
I woulda set the platinum number at around 100, and Gold at 75, but
that's just me.
Has anyone's post gone diamond yet? Who
> gets the Lifetime Acheivement of Award? Hey, has anyone thought of
the
> RMHH awards? Wait, I think that idea comes around at the end of the
year.
LOL! This shit IS hilarous.
The winner gets a cookie and "Battle of the Year" video,
Fatboy
DJ MF
Fatboy Roberts wrote:
> Has anyone's post gone diamond yet? Who
> > gets the Lifetime Acheivement of Award? Hey, has anyone thought of
> the
> > RMHH awards? Wait, I think that idea comes around at the end of the
> year.
>
> LOL! This shit IS hilarous.
>
> The winner gets a cookie and "Battle of the Year" video,
> Fatboy
I know I'll win one award for sure....the winner of the RMHH Tha Ruckus
Sandbox Basketball League Kicking Fatboys Ass All Over The Place Award
9th place? Y'all should be ashamed!
MF
Fatboy Roberts
DJ MF <djmf_th...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > LOL! This shit IS hilarous.
> >
> > The winner gets a cookie and "Battle of the Year" video,
> > Fatboy
>
> I know I'll win one award for sure....the winner of the RMHH Tha
Ruckus
> Sandbox Basketball League Kicking Fatboys Ass All Over The Place Award
>
> 9th place? Y'all should be ashamed!
It's a conspiracy. I've been framed. Pippen is throwing games. Ervin
Johnson is smoking sherms on the bench. I can't be held responsible for
my actions.
Man, it's what, 4 games into the season? Chill a lil, man. get back to
me at midseason. When my Blazers wake up. We'll see what's crackin.
And aren't there two dead teams? When do those players get put on
waivers?
what, me? Worry?
Fatboy
>
> MF
CoJack
>do you think, just because I'm an influential figure in here that I'm
>automatically not influential in real life? Please...I've influenced
>over 50 Women into givin' me dome in the last 3 1/2 years.
sensaye,
i dont care how stupid that shit you said about freestyle fellowship is now.
that was without a doubt the funniest thing i have ever seen, on a computer
screen.
and i bet the Sensaye haters are stil goin' to front on you. thats peace tho,
playboy. nature of the crab nigga, nawmean?
One.
Paul Nijmeijer
news:8uc5ag$vvk$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <8ubnhe$gie$1...@cronkite.temple.edu>,
> Steve Jackson <s...@typhoon.ocis.temple.edu> wrote:
> GC set the standard himself, I believe. Gold=25 replies Platinum = 50.
> I woulda set the platinum number at around 100, and Gold at 75, but
> that's just me.
>
My 'How old are y'all?' thread got at least 100 replies, so that's either
platinum or twice platinum (diamond? # replies?)
> Has anyone's post gone diamond yet?
?
Vadik
--
'Im 19, so you better respect me, bein yo elder and all'
-- T.J. Xenos
Joseph Mak
news:20001105094505...@ng-ch1.aol.com...
>
> I understand people have differences in opinion, but I was just wondering
if
> anyone else has had frustrating experiences like this.
Oh God, I was talking with this one girl I knew and she's into hip hop - and
she's talking about who she likes and I start asking her - what do you think
of so and so, etc. Then I mention, Kool Keith - and she's like, "he's
alright... but only because Bahamadia legitimized him." I was like,
WHAT??!! Then she started going off saying "well, I'm not into Westcoast
MC's." I was like, "HELLO. Kool Keith does not get legitimized by
anyone... Have you ever heard of Ultra Magnetic MC's?!? And since when is
Kool Keith West Coast?!?" I hate talking Hip Hop with people who plain just
don't know...
peace.
j-mak
--
nihilism is back online...
"i'm an addict for sneakers..." - nas
open a window into an alternate paradigm @ http://window.com/~jmak
jhb...@yahoo.com
DJ MF
Fatboy Roberts wrote:
> In article <3A099E13...@hotmail.com>,
> DJ MF <djmf_th...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > LOL! This shit IS hilarous.
> > >
> > > The winner gets a cookie and "Battle of the Year" video,
> > > Fatboy
> >
> > I know I'll win one award for sure....the winner of the RMHH Tha
> Ruckus
> > Sandbox Basketball League Kicking Fatboys Ass All Over The Place Award
> >
> > 9th place? Y'all should be ashamed!
>
> It's a conspiracy. I've been framed. Pippen is throwing games. Ervin
> Johnson is smoking sherms on the bench. I can't be held responsible for
> my actions.
>
> Man, it's what, 4 games into the season? Chill a lil, man. get back to
> me at midseason. When my Blazers wake up. We'll see what's crackin.
>
> And aren't there two dead teams? When do those players get put on
> waivers?
>
they'll be cleared soon hopefully...I'ma check in with Sanbox to see if we
can disperse the players....if not, then it'll be about 2 more weeks before
they'll be declared dead, and then, someone else will take over the team
BTW- any Blazer's players'll suck in this thing because of their
depth...nobody gets enough minutes or touches to put up great numbers,
except for Sheed....
MF
DJ MF
Is my reasoning right here?
MF
GoldenChild
far as Platinum posts. And I say "with all due respect" 'cause indeed,
you definitely get props from me as far as originiality, wit, and a
whole bunch of other shit, but son, I've had some ridiculously long
posts. Not to mention all the times I made OTHER peoples posts turn
platinum just by shedding light on it, it's like I did a ill remix for
their post and make it go plat. I'm the Puff Daddy of this shit in a
way, and I got posts that I ain't even wrote yet. Nah but seriously,
another thing is I didn't do no cheap posts, like "Where are you from?"
or some shit where everyone is gonna respond to it with like one
sentence, all my shit has been on topic for the most part. To my man
that commented on the Sensaye haters and all that...you know the deal
son, what can you do though? One L.
quest19...@webtv.net
credit is due, 'cause alot of ya'll just hate to give it out, even where
it's deserved. I have changed this NG ALOT, I'll even go as far as to
say I've been the most influential poster within the last two years, and
It's not like thats somethin' I take pride in, like I walk around at
it to be acknowledged or 'admitted' would be a better word when you're
dealin' with this group. You remember how much niggas used to get torn
apart in here for sayin' they like an artists that noone else in here
like "Fuck what ya'll think, I'm stickin' with this",>>
Huh?! If you're taking your credit, this makes you arrogant. If you're
like that, you don't need to--your position(s) should speak volumes,
then again.... No self-described "civil rights advocate" should have to
take their "credit", they do it for the love. In this case, the love of
the culture and the newsgroup. The collective knows. No one man/woman in
here, IMO, is above, better than, or shines brighter than anyone in the
collective as we are only as good(or bad) as the information,
prejudices, and tastes we all have individually. You can have an
insightful "opinion", but it stops right there. In a culture that is
subjective, at best, humility is what you have to have. Like you said,
if you really believe that "you da man", stick to your guns. I'll do the
and stick to mine when I say I disagree with that relative to you
"changing the group". We're in here(or at least I am) for Hip Hop and
its' many facets, not vanity contests.
PEACE!
Kaz
started in a news group is wack and pathetic. More so it shows how much
of a life you lack if you treat posting in usenet as the holy grail.
It's like some of you cats want "BEST RMHH POSTER" on your tombstone and
acknowledged in your eulogies.
never been influenced by an internet screen name,
-Kaz
Kayal
OK, that's it, game over. I *know* that there is a secret cabal of the
wittiest rmhhers who get together to make this shit up. Sorry, Fatboy,
the combination of the "Puff Daddy" comment *and* the puff of you was a
dead give-away. Who else is in this? Start squealing, Fats.
GoldenChild
here who obviously doesn't have a life it's your depressed ass. You
gotta be the angriest man in America. I picture you as the Father on
good times (was it good times?), you know, that big black mean
mothafucka. One.
Fatboy Roberts
Kayal <kayal...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> OK, that's it, game over. I *know* that there is a secret cabal of
the
> wittiest rmhhers who get together to make this shit up. Sorry,
Fatboy,
> the combination of the "Puff Daddy" comment *and* the puff of you was
a
> dead give-away. Who else is in this? Start squealing, Fats.
Nah. We're just that dope. Make room. The ego's breakin loose. What,
you want an autograph? Start chargin RMHH'ers for my 8x10 glossies.
With my Antonio Sabato lookin ass, (thanks Kayal). Yo, if you want, I'm
givin pimp lessons in this, you scrub posters can email me for details,
but I'll let ya'll get a lil shine in this bitch, for real. You can
have an ego JUST LIKE ME. Shit is great, you can call everyone else
wack and not worry about it, say stupid shit and not care, and if you
tell a bad joke, your ego lets you know that it's those OTHER stupid
motherfuckers that didn't get it, and you're just too advanced for them
cats, you're MONEY. MONEY and Ego. And really, what else do you NEED in
life, huh?
It's Got me tiltin over in my chair,
Fatboy
Kayal
Legonda...@webtv.net (GoldenChild) wrote:
I picture you as the Father on
> good times (was it good times?), you know, that big black mean
> mothafucka.
Naw, the father on Good Times wasn't mean, not to mention he doesn't
fit into my scale of big, which starts somewhere around Patrick Ewing.
Kaz
If anyone's depressed it's certainly you and your "my shit don't stink"
attitude havin' ass. You sit behind that WebTV bussin' brain cells
trying' to come up with your bread and butter "platinum posts" everyday
don't you? That's your 9-5. You'll be able to retire after you're
inducted to this mythical "RMHH Hall Of Fame" you so proudly give
creedence to, right? You got a few white boys on AOL on your dick and
probably think you're the King Of New York or some shit., haha.
This joint obviously dictates your life to a higher degree than anyone
elses in here. I'd only imagine a nigga with low self esteem would go
out his way to impress individuals who he'll never meet and never know
by constantly exageratting himself- "I'M THE MOST INFLUENTIAL POSTER IN
HERE" ,"I CHANGED RMHH", etc. I can go on & on with the dramatic self
indulging garbage your dramatic ass have posted in here the past 2 yrs.
And by the way I do have pics of myself online so we can put to rest
that "big black mother fucka" image you have of me. Bet you ain't gone
none right? With past comments from you like "I look good", "I'm half
white, half Colombian", "I look like that PR guy off NY Undercover". I
picture a gay looking high yella mother fucker!! prove me wrong duke.
the Freddie Foxxx look a like(not really),
-Kaz
Kayal
Fatboy Roberts <fatboy_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <8ud1hr$pec$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Kayal <kayal...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >
> > OK, that's it, game over. I *know* that there is a secret cabal of
> the
> > wittiest rmhhers who get together to make this shit up. Sorry,
> Fatboy,
> > the combination of the "Puff Daddy" comment *and* the puff of you
was
> a
> > dead give-away. Who else is in this? Start squealing, Fats.
>
> Nah.
weak, very very weak. what say you, rmhhisti? I'm thinking it's Fats,
kari, the OG OI OT, that Tauri fellow. It's a conspiracy, man.
You can
> have an ego JUST LIKE ME. Shit is great, you can call everyone else
> wack and not worry about it, say stupid shit and not care, and if you
> tell a bad joke, your ego lets you know that it's those OTHER stupid
> motherfuckers that didn't get it, and you're just too advanced for
them
> cats, you're MONEY. MONEY and Ego. And really, what else do you NEED
in
> life, huh?
Nah, I like being terribly insecure. That way I can be mean to boys
with a clear conscience. : )
KSG
Hmmm... the exact same thing dawned on me at about the same time.
--
KSG
Lovelyblaqgyrl
Let me leave this alone because I've already prepped myself in case me
and a famous ego go to war {It's alot of egos in here so you'll never
know who} but they are str8 up fakes. I have paid atention over the
years , and they shit just don't add up at all.
I don't know what to say but laugh at these fools kayal, they diss net
props yet they always refer back to the fact they THE NIGGA up in here.
Oh and rmhh has had an awards "BATTLE OF THE RMHHER'S", back in the
good old cut throat days of rmhh. I had to change my name after miss
bee beat my ass so badly in that, next time I want a soft like rikk o
or dj mf and even flash peaople with large hearts...how you gone put
sweet, young me against miss bee.
--
"Joyce...your twisted"- Fatboy
Lovelyblaqgyrl
kill yourself so I can celebrate, and take Nesta's ass out with you.
Seriuosly though I bake nice cakes, you just kill yourself, and Nesta
with the comfort of knowing I'm gonna enjoy the news.
Lovelyblaqgyrl
> picture a gay looking high yella mother fucker!! prove me wrong duke.
>
Hold the Fuck Up
*Balls Fist up*
First off his name Micheal De Lorenzo!
Secondly I hope you insulting a fellow rmhher and NOT Micheal De
Lorenzo with the gay high yella looking mofo comment, don't be
insulting Micheal De Lorenzo.
Oh and for all of you Micheal De Lorenzo fans catch him on Resurrection
Blvd on Showtime...the show is the bomb.
Steve Jackson
> In article <8udf7u$3mf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Fatboy Roberts <fatboy_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Oh and rmhh has had an awards "BATTLE OF THE RMHHER'S", back in the
> good old cut throat days of rmhh. I had to change my name after miss
> bee beat my ass so badly in that, next time I want a soft like rikk o
> or dj mf and even flash peaople with large hearts...how you gone put
> sweet, young me against miss bee.
I remember the battle of the rmhhers. Spirit beat me in the first round
but that's because I thought we were going to battle instrumentally. You
know, I bring my sax, he brings his (I know he doesn't play one but no
one else needed to know that). But apparently it was an MC battle in
which there was absolutely no contest. But next time, Spirit, NEXT TIME....
oh, and for those of you in the Philadelphia television market, from now
on when i say absolutely, replace my voice with don Toleffson's from Fox
(don't ask, I'm in a weird mood today).
> -- > "Joyce...your twisted"- Fatboy
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
--
DJ MF
Steve Jackson wrote:
> Lovelyblaqgyrl <lovelyb...@aol.com> wrote:
> > In article <8udf7u$3mf$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > Fatboy Roberts <fatboy_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> In article <8ud1hr$pec$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> >> Kayal <kayal...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh and rmhh has had an awards "BATTLE OF THE RMHHER'S", back in the
> > good old cut throat days of rmhh. I had to change my name after miss
> > bee beat my ass so badly in that, next time I want a soft like rikk o
> > or dj mf and even flash peaople with large hearts...how you gone put
> > sweet, young me against miss bee.
>
> I remember the battle of the rmhhers. Spirit beat me in the first round
> but that's because I thought we were going to battle instrumentally. You
> know, I bring my sax, he brings his (I know he doesn't play one but no
> one else needed to know that). But apparently it was an MC battle in
> which there was absolutely no contest. But next time, Spirit, NEXT TIME....
Yup, next time....Ryall beat me bad in the first round last time....I cried for 2
weeks straight.
MF
KSG
Kayal <kayal...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <16949-3A...@storefull-212.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> Legonda...@webtv.net (GoldenChild) wrote:
>
> I picture you as the Father on
> > good times (was it good times?), you know, that big black mean
> > mothafucka.
>
> Naw, the father on Good Times wasn't mean, not to mention he doesn't
> fit into my scale of big, which starts somewhere around Patrick Ewing.
James on Good Times was mad cool -- plus he held the family together.
Big STARTS at Patrick Ewing?
--
KSG
anw...@my-deja.com
hey, if you really wanted to push it, you could just start replying to
an old post in any thread you feel like. dont even look for the
particular message your responding to, just sit down and start typing.
fuk it, your MONEY
the hate pours on thick...
GoldenChild
fuckin' for the rest of my life and still end up in the end with more
hoes under my belt then you'll ever get. Imagine I did take this shit as
serious as you think, I don't plan posts and shit, when I turn this shit
off I don't think about it. I don't got pics on line 'cause I don't got
a computer, I got webtv., and If I get a chance to somehow get a pic
on-line I'll do it, but I'm not gonna go out of my way to do it, 'cause
it doesn't really matter to me. I know I'm gorgeous, and anyone who seen
me in real life will tell you the same, AND if I ever do get a pic
on-line I can't wait to see everyone's reaction, because you'll just
look stupid tryin' to say "Well...uh...so what...um...looks aren't
everything...uh..." 'cause damn...I'm beautiful. But damn son, you
remember my whole descroption, what the fuck did you do draw a sketch of
me incase you ever see me in real life so you can rob me? you angry
little bitch. Kaz, dudes like you I laugh at, just 'cause you can't fuck
with me on any level. Eat a dick and choke.
"When niggas hate I don't cock back and blast at 'em/ I drive past 'em
with their bitch and laugh at 'em"
GoldenChild
card. Just make sure the 10% disses stop there, 'cause if we take it
there I can really make you look bad, believe me. I think I still got
old e-mail of yours from back when you were Dinkylover in the stash,
remember? When you were Goldenchilds no. 1 fan? What happened to you?
You used to be beautiful, I could have made you the Queen of this shit.
JUST PLAYIN' MOTHAFUCKAS, LET THE VEIN SLIP BACK INTO YOUR FOREHEAD.
One.
Kayal
Fatboy, distracted with your thriller script or what? The writing in
the GC character sketch is going down. "I could have made you
Queen" ? I think there needs to be a post in praise of Memphis Bleek
or something to pick it up.
Anyway, I forgot to mention in my review of Adam Krims' book that rmhh
got a shout out in one of the footnotes.
Lovelyblaqgyrl
Legonda...@webtv.net (GoldenChild) wrote:
> Lovelyblaqgirl, I like you, for real, so I don't wanna have to pull
your
> card. Just make sure the 10% disses stop there, 'cause if we take it
> there I can really make you look bad, believe me. I think I still got
> old e-mail of yours from back when you were Dinkylover in the stash,
> remember? When you were Goldenchilds no. 1 fan? What happened to you?
> You used to be beautiful, I could have made you the Queen of this
shit.
> JUST PLAYIN' MOTHAFUCKAS, LET THE VEIN SLIP BACK INTO YOUR FOREHEAD.
> One.
First off everyone can pretty much pin point whom I don't like up in
this peice, and your not it so stop flattering your damn self gc. I
still have respect for you, but I have my opinion like you have yours.
If you choose to reply to me and say you don't like shit about my post,
then that's how it is... and vice versa.Damn can't I have an opinion,
or am I suppose to shut up when I disagree with something you write
SHIT.I'm still ya fan, I'm still everybody from way backs fan.
Everything I said in those emails were true, the emails ta kayal, the
one I'm about to send to natty ALL of my emails. Little Puff Daddy-
eisha of rmhh...bwahahaha.
--
"Joyce...your twisted"- Fatboy
Lovelyblaqgyrl
me as dude. Something like Thanks Dude, and some other stuff.
I'm female {4 all you rmhher's knowledge}
Hear me roar
And split what ta what...maybe if I didn't ditch pretty much the whole
semester of health I'd know what the hell that last line meant.
Ya played Ab? naw! Ya played yourself
I swear to god, we should publish this shit and sell it..... we'd make
millions! as a matter of fact, a movie should be made of this shit. Nah,
but for real, classic material. Keep it thourough!
Peace, Ab
"I'm almost doper than anyone!!" - Guru
Kaz
>guarantee you though I could stop fuckin' for
>the rest of my life and still end up in the end
>with more hoes under my belt then you'll ever
>get.
Son you've used this tired ass rebuttal more times on here than Lil Kim
has had plastic surgery on her face. Only sissy ass niggaz go around
proclaiming "I'm gorgeous", "I'm beautiful" to other niggaz. And to do
it online in a news group of mostly males is worse . You sound like a
faggot for real B. Pretty boys like you never scrap cuz you're scared
you'll break a nail and get your hair out of place. How pathetic is it
to brag online about how many hoes you get? Typical GC hearsay. You're
too busy gettin' your dick hard off your "platinum posts" so I doubt
your claims. To use a Big L line, "the shower is the only time you get
your dick wet".
>Imagine I did take this shit as serious as you
>think, I don't plan posts and shit, when I turn
>this shit off I don't think about it. I don't got pics
>on line 'cause I don't got a computer, I got
>webtv., and If I get a chance to somehow get >a
>pic on-line I'll do it, but I'm not gonna go out of
>my way to do it, 'cause it doesn't really matter >to
>me.
Your pics don't mean shit to me but blaming the fact you don't own a PC
as the reason why you can't get your pics onto WebTV is a cop out. I'm
on WebTV too, read your instruction manual.
>But damn son, you remember my whole
>descroption, what the fuck did you do draw a
>sketch of me incase you ever see me in real >life
>so you can rob me? you angry little bitch. Kaz,
>dudes like you I laugh at, just 'cause you can't
>fuck with me on any level. Eat a dick and
>choke.
If I drew a sketch of you I'd get one of those old school fat Crayola
crayons, a yellow one and find a pic of that cat off NY Undercover you
say you look like and just trace him.
>"When niggas hate I don't cock back and blast
>at 'em/ I drive past 'em with their bitch and
>laugh at 'em"
haha, a Jay Z or Nas quote at the end of a GC tirade? You're so
predictable.
-Kaz
Anwar
at the time Illmatic dropped. of course his style, flow, and subject matter
would
change since then. Now take a nigga like Freddie Foxx, or Big L, they been
doing the same shit since day one, using the same punchlines they used in
93.
but I guess that's what yall niggaz want to hear.
"niggaz with names, livin' off reputation,
sometimes gotta remind you ain't nothin changin"
Fatboy Roberts wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 20:55:59 GMT, anw...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I said "The three words are: Slurp, slobber and swallow. Now get to
> talkin." 10 minutes later I dented the back of her throat and
> stepped with an extra 2 g's from the promoter for the incredible door
> reciepts, and I went home and slept for 14 hours, woke up and some
> girl I vaguely remembered from that night was in my bed, mouth firmly
> mic checkin, with a plate of waffles and eggs in her left hand.
>
> Money, baby,
> Fatboy
Fatboy Roberts
wrote:
>In article <2397-3A0...@storefull-217.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> Legonda...@webtv.net (GoldenChild) wrote:
>> Lovelyblaqgirl, I like you, for real, so I don't wanna have to pull
>your
>> card. Just make sure the 10% disses stop there, 'cause if we take it
>> there I can really make you look bad, believe me. I think I still got
>> old e-mail of yours from back when you were Dinkylover in the stash,
>> remember? When you were Goldenchilds no. 1 fan? What happened to you?
>> You used to be beautiful, I could have made you the Queen of this
>shit.
>> JUST PLAYIN' MOTHAFUCKAS, LET THE VEIN SLIP BACK INTO YOUR FOREHEAD.
>> One.
>
>
>Fatboy, distracted with your thriller script or what? The writing in
>the GC character sketch is going down. "I could have made you
>Queen" ? I think there needs to be a post in praise of Memphis Bleek
>or something to pick it up.
Okay, now..I"m gonna reveal myself as an herb here (reveal myself?
like it wasn't common knowledge?) but you and KSG are starting to make
me wonder...do ya'll REALLY think me and GC are the same guy?
I need more sleep. Really. I'm missin jokes and shit
Fatboy
Fatboy Roberts
>
>hey, if you really wanted to push it, you could just start replying to
>an old post in any thread you feel like. dont even look for the
>particular message your responding to, just sit down and start typing.
>fuk it, your MONEY
>
>
>
>the hate pours on thick...
So yo, I was at this party, ready to get up onstage and bust off, do
my lil rap thang and blow these other backpackin no rhythm havin
fuckrag mc's out the damn water. If at all possible, crush their ass
in a battle and THEN have OCK beat them silly after they left. But I'm
a merciful cat, usually I let em kiss my ass and flee without harm,
it's the least I could do after embarrassing them beyond belief.
So, anyway, these car club motherfuckers roll up. You know the ones,
the idiots who got 80 stickers all over their plastic ass Honda Accord
and a cheap ass spoiler kinda just sitting on the back. This big cat
gets out and steps up to me like "I heard you're OCK." I'm like "Yeah,
and?" He goes "You dissed my boys last week. You wouldn't make em a
beat." I said That's cuz your boys are some of the most toy ass mc's I
ever heard, and I'll be damn if I'm gonna let the shit that falls out
of their mouth when they're quote-unquote RAPPIN tarnish my shine. Now
speed on foe you get peed on."
Cat just kinda looked at me funny, and went back to his car. I quick
like snapped my fingers and made a little "hssh hssh" noise. That's
the signal for OCK to catch wreck. If it sounds familiar, it's cuz I
took it from Raiders of the Lost Ark, when that french guy does it at
the beginning, I just thought it was dope. Anyway, I made the noise,
and before he got to his car, OCK swarmed and held ground in a b-boy
stance. He was like "What, you wanna go?" and before the last syllable
left his mouth, I had him naked and bleeding on the ground wearin his
fuckin spoiler for a skirt cuz I didn't like seein his bitch ass
naked. And then I peed on him. He was like "ugh, stop," but it came
out all garbled because I was pissin on his head, and he was trying
not to taste the golden shower. That and his jaw was broke. And then
we scribed "OCK" into his car, threw him in the trunk, and slit the
tires. Last I heard some cat named Kingpin mounted his head and
skullfucked him in the parking lot, word up. I don't really know shit
about that, I don't get down like that, yunno? I'll piss on a
motherfucker after I take his balls and break his spine, but I
wouldn't put a dick in his eyesocket, there's only so low I can go. I
save my prick for them sugar walls the dime pieces be throwin at me.
Anyway, to get back to the REAL story, I got onstage, threw on my
beat, and had these bitches panties MOIST yo. I was doin "Product of
Society" and the rough motherfuckers were goin crazy, started burnin
shit, bombin the walls, and the girls were fuckin all rubbin on their
titties, goin bi in the club for me and shit, off the hook. Well, not
too off the hook, it ain't like my fly fuckin ass ain't done it
before, sometimes I just show in my fat leathers and tims, othertimes
I keep it oldschool and just rock my Raiders jersey, but regardless,
these girls be knockneed when I speak to em. It's crazy. They be like
"oh, Fatboy, you even BETTER lookin than Antonio Sabato, word." and
I'm like "I only wanna hear three words out your ass from now on,
alright? You listenin?"
She took her mouth off my apple headed rope and looked at me intently.
Kayal
The vocabulary gets oddly anachronistic at times. And who do we know
who talks the slang but is a closet brain, who'd maybe enjoy the idea
of creating a persuasive ("50+ women" eh?) fiction, an off-white (hmmm)
Mortimer Snerd who mocks everyone but the guy who has his hand in the
pocket. And like How To Marry the Man of Your Dreams says, men's
palates cloy with too much praise, and they crave the piquancy of
provoking anger and disapproval.
Hold up, that actually describes someone else in here too. And works
by committees often exhibit a certain uneveness of tone...
Hmmmm. Well, there's something fishy here, and I suspect you know more
than you're letting on. But will you tell? I wonder.
Fatboy Roberts
wrote:
>> >
>> >Fatboy, distracted with your thriller script or what? The writing in
>> >the GC character sketch is going down. "I could have made you
>> >Queen" ? I think there needs to be a post in praise of Memphis Bleek
>> >or something to pick it up.
>>
>> Okay, now..I"m gonna reveal myself as an herb here (reveal myself?
>> like it wasn't common knowledge?) but you and KSG are starting to make
>> me wonder...do ya'll REALLY think me and GC are the same guy?
>
>
>The vocabulary gets oddly anachronistic at times. And who do we know
>who talks the slang but is a closet brain, who'd maybe enjoy the idea
>of creating a persuasive ("50+ women" eh?) fiction, an off-white (hmmm)
>Mortimer Snerd who mocks everyone but the guy who has his hand in the
>pocket. And like How To Marry the Man of Your Dreams says, men's
>palates cloy with too much praise, and they crave the piquancy of
>provoking anger and disapproval.
...yeah...
yeah, i was HOPING you'd quote that, you're SO obvious sometimes, I
knew, I was like "yo, I'll ask THIS question, and for real, it's
guaranteed she'll use that quote from "How to Marry the Man of your
Dreams" with the words "piquancy" and "cloy" in it. Obviously." So you
know what? I got a quote for YOU! I believe Chaucer once said it in
the literary classic "the Canterbury tales." It went, and I quote:
"Yay verily, he scratched upon his shaggy head and proclaimed "it is
all greek to me. art thou finished with that fig newton?"
You know what's funny? I'm so clueless at times, I can't even figure
out the references when you ADMIT you're talking about me. I didn't
know I was a "closet" brain. And Mortimer Snerd sounds familiar, but
ain't that the guy with the handlebar mustache who's always fuckin
with Dudley Do Right? No..that's Snidely Whiplash..you ain't sayin I'm
Snidely Whiplash, right? I'm lost. And who is the guy with the hand in
the pocket that I don't mock? I think there's only 4 cats on this
group I've never mocked, and thats Tauri, Kari, OT and Buggzy. I
believe everyone else at one time or another has caught my wit.
Honestly, break me down, because even *I'M* ignorant to the deeper
meanings of me.
>
>Hold up, that actually describes someone else in here too. And works
>by committees often exhibit a certain uneveness of tone...
>
>Hmmmm. Well, there's something fishy here, and I suspect you know more
>than you're letting on. But will you tell? I wonder.
This is what I know. And I'm gonna be utterly straight, because as you
know, I can't tell when you're "in character" or not sometimes.
a) GC apparently is a 19-20 year old from NY with a webtv who looks
like Michael DeLorenzo.
b) I'm a chubby italian dude from Oregon who talks a lot of shit.
c) We're not the same person. I've emailed him before because I pissed
him off once. or he pissed me off. One of the two. I forget. We may
have the same size ego and boundless arrogance, but hey..you gotta
love us.
For real though, if you're NOT joking and taking pleasure in the fact
that you've somehow fooled the boys in the group again, hit me off
with the names of the people you think are in this "conspiracy." This
could be amusing.
"Mr Chaucer. He who hath smelt it, hath dealt it, foul heathen!"
Fatboy
Kayal
djfa...@home.com (Fatboy Roberts) wrote:
>
> yeah, i was HOPING you'd quote that, you're SO obvious sometimes, I
> knew, I was like "yo, I'll ask THIS question, and for real, it's
> guaranteed she'll use that quote from "How to Marry the Man of your
> Dreams" with the words "piquancy" and "cloy" in it. Obviously." So you
> know what? I got a quote for YOU! I believe Chaucer once said it in
> the literary classic "the Canterbury tales." It went, and I quote:
>
> "Yay verily, he scratched upon his shaggy head and proclaimed "it is
> all greek to me. art thou finished with that fig newton?"
Child, please. "Yay verily" is probably a mistranscription of "yea
verily" in a dubious copy of the King James Bible. "Scratched upon his
shaggy head" I'd say is from a picaresque novel, maybe Tom
Jones. "Greek to me" is from Shaks, Julius Ceasar to be exact, by way
of a Latin proverb. "Finished with that Fig Newton" is anonymous late
capitalist propaganda.
And you're trying to pass *this* off as Chaucer? *Snort* Maybe this
li'l gamble would work on one of those tacky-ass snowflake-world-living
hoes you call stuckup knowitalls, but on Frostypants? Don't daydream
and type at the same time.
> because even *I'M* ignorant to the deeper
> meanings of me.
Oh, I never doubted on your masculinity, dear.
K, the Wife of Shower
PS. OK, I guess I should admit I made the sneaky bitch move of
intrapolating some words from Fay Weldon's Shrapnel Academy into my
paraphrase, but it is still an accurate paraphrase.
Fatboy Roberts
wrote:
>
>
>PS. OK, I guess I should admit I made the sneaky bitch move of
>intrapolating some words from Fay Weldon's Shrapnel Academy into my
>paraphrase, but it is still an accurate paraphrase.
AHA! You hath passed my test with Flying colors! I wasn't sure you'd
make it, but yet again, Dark Angel, your mental prowess astounds. No,
go forth. And funk.
Odder and odder,
Fatboy
Fatboy Roberts
wrote:
>Yup, next time....Ryall beat me bad in the first round last time....I cried for 2
>weeks straight.
>
The first round? There was no second round. That was it. You just got
your ass beat, period. Ryall went out on top, too, unlike you, hangin
around past your prime, all punch drunk, straining for a bit of that
former glory. LOOK AT YOU! Washed up, tore down...retire while you
still can, before you end up like Stallone. Before you end up like ME.
A pathetic shell of a poster, hardly ever on topic, endlessly posting
corny jokes, pleading for a tender morsel of props to feed my
starving, humongous ego.
RMHH has been,
Fatboy
TJ Xenos
>
>Oh and for all of you Micheal De Lorenzo fans catch him on Resurrection
>Blvd on Showtime...the show is the bomb.
eff that, its all about old reruns of head of the class...
T.J. Xenos
xen...@student.wit.edu
"Even her baby daddy say the pussy aint what it used to be"
"im about to save hiphop like ghost did the wu"
"I turn pretty boys into craig mack"
"your crew is wack like chocolate Reese's"
DJ MF
Fatboy Roberts wrote:
haha...but it was the first round theoretically, thus, I lost in the first round, and
therefore, makes it sound good...doesn't it?
and I want a rematch...I've trained hard, have a punch force of 1800 psi, and like
Ivan Drago once said, "I will break him".
props to you fatboy- happy now?
MF
DJ MF
MF
FrIeNd...@webtv.net
HEAR FAKE THUGGIN OUT BULLSHIT.. SO IF THEY KEEP RAPPIN ABOUT HOES MONEY
LESBIANS AND THUGS THIS RAP GAME IS GONNA BE DEAD CAUSE THE WORLD IS
GONNA BE CORRUPTED THIS SOCIETY IS GETTIN RUINED SO WHY U ASK WE PREACH
THIS IS CAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP A GOOD MOTHAFUCKIN FUTURE FOR OUR KIDS!!
FrIeNd...@webtv.net
CAUSE ITS MOSTLY ABOUT THE LYRICS!!
TELL HIM TO LOOK BACK AT THE 80's THOSE WHERE THE REAL HIP HOPPERS WHY?
B/c EVER SINCE N.W.A CAME OUT THEY KILLED OUR HIP HOP NATION!!
IF U HAVE THE ROOTS "THING FALL APART" PUT ON ACT1 AND IF HE DONT LIKE
IS BECAUSE THIS CAT JUST WANTS TO LISTEN TO THAT FAKE THUG BULLSHIT SO
IF E DONT LISTEN THAN HES IGNORANT AND DONT WAIST UR TIME DOG ON CATS
LIKE HIM ..
KEEP IT REAL SON ... STAY SUPPORTIN THEM ALL
SOUNDBOMBING 3 IS COMIN OUT SOON GO COP THAT!!
anw...@my-deja.com
miss_bee
each other because we were both "Miss"es at te time. I actually woulda
preferrred to have gone up against that DC/NY cat, Spirit. Hehe.
miss_bee
references that realistically only someone 25 or older can make. Along
the lines of, "I remember when I Know You Got Soul" came out and I used
to be all over that" (or however he'd phrase it.). Somehow I doubt a
19 year old can truly remember being 5 and thinking then that "I Know
You Got Soul" was thier joint.
10 Percent Dis? Ok, yeas, people know Lyte and shit but I really doubt
a 19 yr. old Queens child would use this as an everyday reference
phrase. Or maybe he just happens to be a 19 year old who
reallllllllllllllllllllllly knows about real hip hop.
In article <2397-3A0...@storefull-217.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
Legonda...@webtv.net (GoldenChild) wrote:
> Lovelyblaqgirl, I like you, for real, so I don't wanna have to pull
your
> card. Just make sure the 10% disses stop there, 'cause if we take it
> there I can really make you look bad, believe me. I think I still got
> old e-mail of yours from back when you were Dinkylover in the stash,
> remember? When you were Goldenchilds no. 1 fan? What happened to you?
> You used to be beautiful, I could have made you the Queen of this
shit.
> JUST PLAYIN' MOTHAFUCKAS, LET THE VEIN SLIP BACK INTO YOUR FOREHEAD.
> One.
>
>