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J. Sidhu

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Mar 18, 2005, 8:01:59 PM3/18/05
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Is this dude any good? he's got a new album coming that Allhiphop.com
says is one of the most stylish hip hop album to come out in a while.

Andrew L.

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Mar 18, 2005, 8:38:12 PM3/18/05
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probably not everyones cup of tea...but yea he's good

if you can't get down w/ his rhyme styles i'm sure you can get into his
beats, he has a love for music that really shines through in his production.
the new album is nice

heres a track from the new one, "i see colours"

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1MZFTFQJRQ54K0LQ1IF95LQD42


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---Pete---

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Mar 19, 2005, 6:52:42 AM3/19/05
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"J. Sidhu" wrote in message

> Is this dude any good? he's got a new album coming that Allhiphop.com
> says is one of the most stylish hip hop album to come out in a while.

Hip-hop for people who don't like or listen to hip-hop.

One for the white belt/trucker cappers.

Uber nerd rap.

Terrible.
--
This was an insight into the mind of ---Pete---
"Read and profit from the knowledge"


mattmatical

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Mar 19, 2005, 8:39:24 AM3/19/05
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:52:42 GMT, "---Pete---" wrote:

>> Is this dude any good? he's got a new album coming that Allhiphop.com
>> says is one of the most stylish hip hop album to come out in a while.
>
>Hip-hop for people who don't like or listen to hip-hop.

Wow, that's a new one.

>One for the white belt/trucker cappers.

I can't verify this, but are we blaming rappers for the
audience they attract now?

>Uber nerd rap.

Nah, just nerd rap. You obviously haven't heard
uber-nerd yet or not enough to be able to make a
distinction.

>Terrible.

Haven't heard his new album, but... that kid shows
some true dedication to late '80s rap, he gets props
over here (at Matt's).


Matt

---Pete---

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Mar 19, 2005, 9:24:28 AM3/19/05
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"mattmatical" wrote in message

>>Hip-hop for people who don't like or listen to hip-hop.
>
> Wow, that's a new one.

Feel free to use it. It's not new to me - I've used it a few times. There
are a few people who make that kind of hip-hop that indie rock kids feel ok
to listen to and seem to revel in it by making only that kind of music -
GLC, Edan, Beasties, Ugly Duckling...

>>One for the white belt/trucker cappers.
>
> I can't verify this, but are we blaming rappers for the
> audience they attract now?

Unless it's aimed at them, no. Still denotes a reason why I'm not a fan of
Edan.

>>Uber nerd rap.
>
> Nah, just nerd rap. You obviously haven't heard
> uber-nerd yet or not enough to be able to make a
> distinction.

I have. I honestly would class him as Uber nerd rap. Him, Paul Barman and
Shake Ya Caboose dude should make a supergroup or something.

>>Terrible.
>
> Haven't heard his new album, but... that kid shows
> some true dedication to late '80s rap, he gets props
> over here (at Matt's).

Thing is, I can listen to late 80's rap and think how much a herb Edan is.
Trendy trucker cap wearing HERB.

Mr Bounce

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Mar 19, 2005, 9:55:53 AM3/19/05
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> Hip-hop for people who don't like or listen to hip-hop.
>
> One for the white belt/trucker cappers.
>
> Uber nerd rap.
>
> Terrible.

how much edan have you heard? or are you basing this solely on his
image (which ill admit doesnt do him any favours)? i'll agree that some
of it is like that but hes got some nice beats and a wicked turn of
phrase.

although the amount of broadsheet love this new album is getting over
here is worrying, no doubt, but im up for it.

pass the duffer top.

---Pete---

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Mar 19, 2005, 10:11:25 AM3/19/05
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"Mr Bounce" wrote in message

> how much edan have you heard? or are you basing this solely on his
> image (which ill admit doesnt do him any favours)? i'll agree that some
> of it is like that but hes got some nice beats and a wicked turn of
> phrase.

To be brutally honest, Edan is someone that I haven't been able to listen to
more than a snippet of. Every now and then, I'll listen to a snippet of one
of his tracks online, and they really haven't spurred me on to investigate
more as I've not really liked what I've heard. The "uber nerd rap"
classification comes not solely on his image (partly though, I have to
admit), but also from what I've read and heard.

We're in 2005 now. If I wanted to hear hip-hop that sounded like it was made
in the late 80's, I'd listen to some quality hip-hop that was made in the
late 80's!

If you (or Matt) think I've got him wrong, YSI me something that will change
my perception. I'm always willing to give people another go (case in point -
Perceptionists)

> although the amount of broadsheet love this new album is getting over
> here is worrying,

I don't care if the broadsheets like it, if its good. Broadsheets only
usually like hip-hop that hip-hop fans don't really like.

> pass the duffer top.

Now duffer tops aint too bad...white belts, Ramones T-Shirts and wearing
things because 'they're ironic' are..

Mr Bounce

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Mar 19, 2005, 10:20:29 AM3/19/05
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> We're in 2005 now. If I wanted to hear hip-hop that sounded like it
was
> made
> in the late 80's, I'd listen to some quality hip-hop that was made in
the
> late 80's!

ok but i dont think everything he does has that sound and from a
rhyming perspective its light years away.

> If you (or Matt) think I've got him wrong, YSI me something that will
change
> my perception. I'm always willing to give people another go (case in
point -
> Perceptionists)

all ive got digital is his verse on dwight spitz. what you really want
is an mp3 of mic manipulator.

i'll see if i can sort it.

> I don't care if the broadsheets like it, if its good. Broadsheets
only
> usually like hip-hop that hip-hop fans don't really like.

exactly, thats why im worried about this new album.

> Now duffer tops aint too bad...white belts, Ramones T-Shirts and
wearing
> things because 'they're ironic' are..

theyre the west london equivalent, i feel...its all trendies whatever
way you cut it.

mattmatical

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Mar 19, 2005, 10:51:57 AM3/19/05
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:24:28 GMT, "---Pete---" wrote:

>"mattmatical" wrote in message
>>>Hip-hop for people who don't like or listen to hip-hop.
>>
>> Wow, that's a new one.
>
>Feel free to use it. It's not new to me - I've used it a few times. There
>are a few people who make that kind of hip-hop that indie rock kids feel ok
>to listen to and seem to revel in it by making only that kind of music -
>GLC, Edan, Beasties, Ugly Duckling...

I was being sarcastic. I believe I first heard the term applied
to acts like Arrested Development and Disposable Heroes of
Hiphoprisy.

But anyway, ponder this:

Take your average kid who needs his mixtape fix, listening
to what I consider largely subpar NY thug rap. So now I
propose to this kid: Hey, why don't you check out some
G Rap & Polo "Live and Let Die" or EBAR "Don't Sweat
the Technique," which he dismisses with, Nah, I can't get
with that type of stuff, it's too old, it doesn't sound right,
etc.

We might as well put them into the above category if
they're so close-minded.

What about people who EXCLUSIVELY listen to rap
that charts. Whatever origin, whether Lil' Flip or Fiddy,
as long as the media conglomerates hype it, they eat it
up, disregarding anything that may not seem as popular.

Do they really 'like' or 'listen' to hip-hop in your opinion?


>>>Uber nerd rap.
>>
>> Nah, just nerd rap. You obviously haven't heard
>> uber-nerd yet or not enough to be able to make a
>> distinction.
>
>I have. I honestly would class him as Uber nerd rap. Him, Paul Barman and
>Shake Ya Caboose dude should make a supergroup or something.

Yeah, that's nerd rap to me. Uber-nerd are people with a
holier-than-thou attitude who feel superior because they
think they don't have to 'flow', don't have to 'rhyme', as it's
all strictly self-expression and whoever doesn't understand
them is not on their level. Or at least these are some of
the arguments some of their fans make in defense of them.


Matt

---Pete---

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Mar 19, 2005, 10:55:47 AM3/19/05
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"mattmatical" wrote in message

> Take your average kid who needs his mixtape fix, listening
> to what I consider largely subpar NY thug rap. So now I
> propose to this kid: Hey, why don't you check out some
> G Rap & Polo "Live and Let Die" or EBAR "Don't Sweat
> the Technique," which he dismisses with, Nah, I can't get
> with that type of stuff, it's too old, it doesn't sound right,
> etc.
>
> We might as well put them into the above category if
> they're so close-minded.
>
> What about people who EXCLUSIVELY listen to rap
> that charts. Whatever origin, whether Lil' Flip or Fiddy,
> as long as the media conglomerates hype it, they eat it
> up, disregarding anything that may not seem as popular.
>
> Do they really 'like' or 'listen' to hip-hop in your opinion?

Prolly not, but the two poles aren't mutually exclusive and both are as
annoying to me as an across the board hip-hop fan.

> Yeah, that's nerd rap to me. Uber-nerd are people with a
> holier-than-thou attitude who feel superior because they
> think they don't have to 'flow', don't have to 'rhyme', as it's
> all strictly self-expression and whoever doesn't understand
> them is not on their level. Or at least these are some of
> the arguments some of their fans make in defense of them.

Word.

alcove

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Mar 19, 2005, 4:52:59 PM3/19/05
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J. Sidhu wrote:
> Is this dude any good? he's got a new album coming that Allhiphop.com
> says is one of the most stylish hip hop album to come out in a while.


You should check him. I put him in the silly/funny grouping.
He's a bit geeky, but Pete still needs to relax.

^alcove^
Sing it, shitface!!!

---Pete---

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Mar 19, 2005, 6:08:55 PM3/19/05
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"alcove" wrote in message

> You should check him. I put him in the silly/funny grouping.
> He's a bit geeky, but Pete still needs to relax.

You like El-P.

Andrew L.

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Mar 19, 2005, 7:53:04 PM3/19/05
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yo Pete you're posting on an internet NEWSGROUP... might wanna ease up on
the "nerd" stuff there, chief rocker.


p.s. u keep it so incredibly real!

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suntzu

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Mar 19, 2005, 8:25:33 PM3/19/05
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mattmatical wrote:
>
>>One for the white belt/trucker cappers.
>
>
> I can't verify this, but are we blaming rappers for the
> audience they attract now?
>

have been for a while, i thought...

alcove

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Mar 19, 2005, 8:30:49 PM3/19/05
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---Pete--- wrote:
> "alcove" wrote in message
>
>>You should check him. I put him in the silly/funny grouping.
>>He's a bit geeky, but Pete still needs to relax.
>
>
> You like El-P.


I do like his producing from time to time.
I'm not really into his mic play, to be honest. At least not since i
cared about Co-Flo.

whatevs

^alcove^

---Pete---

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Mar 19, 2005, 10:22:34 PM3/19/05
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"Andrew L." wrote in message

> yo Pete you're posting on an internet NEWSGROUP... might wanna ease up on
> the "nerd" stuff there, chief rocker.
>
>
> p.s. u keep it so incredibly real!

Seriously - what is your problem? Did the cool kids at school used to bully
you?

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