tupac 'disses' chinoXL, Mobb Deep, Junior Mafia, Lil Kim, etc.....
SpaRatik
i just heard this new tupac track a day ago, where he uses that
get money remix (we can be as good as the best of them and as bad
as the worst...) beat, speeds it up a little, and says shit like,
"grab your glocks if you see tupac, call the cops if you see tupac"
at the end of the song he says "FUCK YOU" to mobb deep, chino XL,
and alot of other east coasters... now, this east west shit wasn't
really that bad, and i don't really even like biggie and his band
of bitches (junior mafia & lil kim) but i hate tupac's faggot ass
even more, and none of them bitches can actually rap or anything...
in tupac's track, he has some other guys rappin in it too... i think
there's a girl(can't tell) and she/he was talkin about lil kim...
here are some quotes from that shit...
"biggie smalls and junior mafia, some mark ass niggas"
"lil kim don't fuck around with real Gees,
quick to snatch your ugly ass of the street"
"grab your glocks if you see tupac, call the cops when you see
tupac, who shot me but your punks didn't finish, now you bout
to see the wraith of a meanace" (that was the chorus)
"biggie, remember when i used to let you sleep on the couch,
and beg them other bitches to sleep in the house,
now you talk about versace, you copy my style, five shots
couldn't drop me, i took it and smiled,
now i'm about to set the record straight, with my A K I'm still
that thug that you love to hate"
one thing i don't understand... of all the people to fuck with,
why chino XL, cause he will make your ass look like a piece of
shit after he is finished with you...
the smart thing for them to do, is to have a track with,
biggie, junior mafia w/ lil kim, mobb deep, chino XL, and
all other east coasters who hate tupacs bitch ass... and
i don't even like biggie's fat ass...
sparatik
(you heard it from me first!)
APage20301
Tupac dissed Chino because Chino said in "No Complex": "In this industry,
I'm tried not to get fucked like Tupac in jail". This line can be taken
two ways. One, Chino is trying not to get fucked like Tupac was trying not
get fucked when he was in jail. Or two, (the meaning Tupac obviously
took), Chino was saying he was trying not to get fucked like Tupac DID
(according to some East Coast rumors) ) get fucked in jail. Personally,
since Chino is vicious and will rip anybody, I can't tell which way he
meant it. Tupac makes good story raps like "Brenda's Got A Baby" and "Dear
Mama", he really shouldn't try to be a battle rapper, because other people
(like Chino) do it a hundred times better. Personally, I wish 'Pac had
signed to a label like LaFace (which seems to care about its artists)
instead of Death Row, because the Row just made his music more
"gangsterfied". Don't believe me? Listen to the political raps on his
first album, "Wordz of Wisdom" and (to a lesser degree) "Violent...". Now
compare that lyrical content with the new double album. In the new album,
'Pac is either in Snoop party rap/playa mode or in Kurrupt ride on the
opposition/kill 'em all some of his best work has possessed. Since I have
followed 'Pac since his first album, I have a pretty good overall view of
his progression (you might say regression, depending on opinions) as an
MC. I hope he goes back to his roots and lets go of all the petty
bullshit.
PS: Did anyone notice how in the inside cover of his CD he called for the
release of all political prisoners, including Geronimo Pratt and Mumia Abu
Jamal? Now, if only he would get back to writing songs about stuff like
that.
Salaam (Peace),
ACP
Chandler Lauzon
> the smart thing for them to do, is to have a track with,
> biggie, junior mafia w/ lil kim, mobb deep, chino XL, and
> all other east coasters who hate tupacs bitch ass... and
> i don't even like biggie's fat ass...
Granted Tupac is kind of getting silly, but basically it's to sell
records. Rivalry sparks controversy and controversy gets people going to
the record store. Hell, rivalry kept MC Shan's career going longer than it
should have...even landed him a Sprite commercial more than 10 years later.
My suspiscion is that just about the time Tupac, Biggie, et al see their
careers sag we'll see a big reconciliation.
Nevertheless, it would be cool to see Chino pull some cards, particularly
no-skills fools from BOTH coasts. And for the record, Chino is a WEST
coast rapper.
Out
C
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Chandler Lauzon | "I'm sure that you are soon to see
Prop Daddy | reality, my secret technique, because
cla...@chat.carleton.ca | I always speak with mentality..."
ao...@freenet.carleton.ca | -Ain't No Half Steppin', BDK
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Dedrick Bernard Henry - CEO
On 4 Jun 1996, Chandler Lauzon wrote:
>
> > the smart thing for them to do, is to have a track with,
> > biggie, junior mafia w/ lil kim, mobb deep, chino XL, and
> > all other east coasters who hate tupacs bitch ass... and
> > i don't even like biggie's fat ass...
>
> Granted Tupac is kind of getting silly, but basically it's to sell
> records. Rivalry sparks controversy and controversy gets people going to
> the record store. Hell, rivalry kept MC Shan's career going longer than it
> should have...even landed him a Sprite commercial more than 10 years later.
> My suspiscion is that just about the time Tupac, Biggie, et al see their
> careers sag we'll see a big reconciliation.
>
> Nevertheless, it would be cool to see Chino pull some cards, particularly
> no-skills fools from BOTH coasts. And for the record, Chino is a WEST
> coast rapper.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Chandler Lauzon | "I'm sure that you are soon to see
> Prop Daddy | reality, my secret technique, because
> cla...@chat.carleton.ca | I always speak with mentality..."
> ao...@freenet.carleton.ca | -Ain't No Half Steppin', BDK
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
CHINO is a MIDWEST rapper - Chicago
Douglas Smith
In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.96060...@umbc10.umbc.edu> Dedrick
Bernard Henry - CEO wrote:
>Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:23:43 -0400
>From: Dedrick Bernard Henry - CEO <dhe...@gl.umbc.edu>
>Sender: dhe...@umbc10.umbc.edu
>Newsgroups: rec.music.hip-hop
>Subject: Re: tupac 'disses' chinoXL, Mobb Deep, Junior Mafia, Lil Kim,
> etc.....
Umm...Chino is from Newark, NJ, not Chicago.
kari orr
In article <Pine.SGI.3.91.96060...@umbc10.umbc.edu>, Dedrick Bernard Henry - CEO <dhe...@gl.umbc.edu> says:
>CHINO is a MIDWEST rapper - Chicago
chino is from east orange new jersey, new jersey is on the east coast.
chino is an east coast rapper
kari orr
house of phat beats
APage20301
You're both wrong. Chino XL comes from East Orange, New Jersey, but he
currently resides on the West Coast.
One Name Like Prince Productionz
Thankz for the correction, imagine the heart attack west coast
would have if some one said RAS was from Illtown...
THE TE...@gnn.com
Miotch!
Douglas Smith (DSmit...@gnn.com) wrote:
: Umm...Chino is from Newark, NJ, not Chicago.
Yeah, and 2Pac hails from the east...what's your point? Chino resides on
the west coast now and (unfortunately) represents the west...
Mitch
--
Mitch Kispert
Georgia "God Almighty split the hydrogen in two,
Institute of Vex took an oxygen, grabbed the mike and blew..."
Technology
--Boogiemonsters (Vex), "Jugganauts"
gt3...@prism.gatech.edu
Douglas Smith
In article <4p79l5$6...@catapult.gatech.edu> Miotch! wrote:
>Date: 6 Jun 1996 18:56:37 GMT
>From: gt3...@acmez.gatech.edu (Miotch!)
>Newsgroups: rec.music.hip-hop
>Subject: Re: tupac 'disses' chinoXL, Mobb Deep, Junior Mafia, Lil Kim,
> etc.....
>
>Douglas Smith (DSmit...@gnn.com) wrote:
>
>
>: Umm...Chino is from Newark, NJ, not Chicago.
>
>Yeah, and 2Pac hails from the east...what's your point? Chino resides on
>the west coast now and (unfortunately) represents the west...
>
>
>
My point was to try to correct the original post, nothing more and nothing
less. However, I stand corrected because as two other people pointed out,
Chino is from East Orange, N.J. not Newark. By the way, why does Chino
represent the West Coast now? I sure haven't heard him "big up" the West
Coast or shout "wessyde!" yet (although I'll admit, I haven't bought the
album yet). And if he does represent the west, big deal. His shit is still
phat. It's not the coast that matters, only the music (and that's coming
from a so-called "East Coast" head).
Loklass
In article <4p79l5$6...@catapult.gatech.edu>, gt3...@acmez.gatech.edu
(Miotch!) writes:
>Yeah, and 2Pac hails from the east...what's your point? Chino resides on
>the west coast now and (unfortunately) represents the west...
Where do you get that from? Chino has respect for all geographical areas,
but he represents his home town like crazy. Ever heard him say
"representin' Jersey to the fullest"? Word is, he's just temporarily
staying out there to peep out the different sounds and whatnot, sort of
like what Kool Keith is doing.
Peace
Loklass
El Papichulo Cubano
Grabtech
In article <4opjjf$p...@news1.radix.net>, dfen...@radix.net (SpaRatik) wrote:
>
>one thing i don't understand... of all the people to fuck with,
>why chino XL, cause he will make your ass look like a piece of
>shit after he is finished with you...
>
>
>sparatik
>(you heard it from me first!)
>
Well I think Chino XL still has a few pople who may want to try to pull his
card, but I got respect for Chino for speaking his mind straight up... but
Chino XL mentioned Tupac on a few tracks if I'm not mistakened so I expected
it, I'm fiending for a Chino Xl response...
--G0w3
MarLJ1
I think if Chino jus concentrated on a song dissin Tupac, Pac would have
his feelings hurt, cause it's no holds barred with Chino.
EEZA
All I'm sayin is that 2pac better watch his skinny, hard act shit, because
I think Mobb Deep is for real, and they'll fuck 2pac up for that shit. He
better not even cross the Mississippi.
PEACE......
APage20301
Eeza, you posted...
I respond...
People always say this. This seem to forget Tupac's history. This is the
man who saw two cops harassing a brother, got out of his car, and shot the
two cops. NOBODY I have known in my life has ever done some shit like
that. Huey P Newton is the only brother I know of that would have been
wild enough to do that shit, when he was alive. Tupac got shot FIVE times.
Not once. FIVE. Two shots hit him in the head. He not only suirvived, HE
SHOWED UP IN COURT THE NEXT FUCKING DAY!!! So, say what you will about
Tupac's music, as a person he is a straight up soldier. Sure, he has done
irresponsible things, but so did Huey Newton when he was alive. Both men
had their revolutionary side and their counterrevolutionary side. Huey
used to beat women. Now, Pac never did no dumb shit like that, but he has
slipped up sometimes. In the rape case, he had consensual sex with the
woman (even she attested to this), but it will never be known what
happened between her and his boys. Did he allow it or was he really in the
other room? Either way, he should have gotten that sister out of there.
That would have been the righteous thing to do. But like I said, Pac's
made mistakes.
Mobb Deep, BTW, has beef with Def Squad. Now, personally I think Redman's
tall ass could beat the shit out of Havok and Prodigy (they both average
under 5'9 from what I hear). Mobb Deep are the ones that need to chill
out, because I read in RAPPAGES that they tried to kick that "LA, LA" song
at a show in Los Angeles and got bottles thrown at they asses. Now, the
crowd was peaceful till they did that song, according to my sources. But
then they had to be dumb asses and spark it off. How the fuck you gonna
disrespect somebody's hometown when you're in their hometown? Security had
to rescue their silly asses before they got mobbed (pun intended).
nba...@direct.ca
In article <4pr85a$9...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, ee...@aol.com (EEZA) says:
>
>All I'm sayin is that 2pac better watch his skinny, hard act shit, because
>I think Mobb Deep is for real, and they'll fuck 2pac up for that shit. He
>better not even cross the Mississippi.
>
>
>
Fuck Mobb Deep. They pussied out when Redman came at them. Them
bitches got sliced up. Pac would fuck them up with the quickness.
Shit.....why am I saying this, Mobb Deep ain't even at his level. Watch
out, Pac is on a storm so "Holla At Me"
One Love
Insufficient Data
In <4pr85a$9...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> ee...@aol.com (EEZA) writes:
>
>All I'm sayin is that 2pac better watch his skinny, hard act shit,
because
>I think Mobb Deep is for real, and they'll fuck 2pac up for that shit.
He
>better not even cross the Mississippi.
>
>
>
> PEACE......
Could someone fill me in on what 2pac did in the first place? I missed
the initial post...but don't get me wrong, I hate 2pac with a
passion...
nadeem bajwa
Keep it real my homey. Shit....Pac is the REALEST muthafucka in the game.
Debra Berney
Mobb Deep and anyone else would fuck 2pac up. 2pac needs to watch or else he's gonna get shot
again and this time he ain't gonna live.
Debra Berney
He wrote a song talking shit on Mobb Deep and saying how he fucked biggies wife.
Insufficient Data
>Keep it real my homey. Shit....Pac is the REALEST muthafucka in the
game.
Is that because he grew up as a pussy little kid going to acting class
with no kind of friends as a teen?? Then the punk bitch moved to
Oakland because nobody there knew who he really was, and now he's got
all the wack-ass "I'm a hard-ass gangsta" suburban kids ridin' his nuts
because they beleive all the shit he talks.
Insufficient Data
In <4q1a03$5...@news.abs.net> Debra Berney <dbe...@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us>
writes:
>Mobb Deep and anyone else would fuck 2pac up. 2pac needs to watch or
else he's gonna get shot
>again and this time he ain't gonna live.
>
kari orr
In article <4q1mlm$c...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, bob...@ix.netcom.com(Insufficient Data ) says:
>Is that because he grew up as a pussy little kid going to acting class
>with no kind of friends as a teen?? Then the punk bitch moved to
>Oakland because nobody there knew who he really was, and now he's got
>all the wack-ass "I'm a hard-ass gangsta" suburban kids ridin' his nuts
>because they beleive all the shit he talks.
do you know tupac? have you actually spoken to him, conversed
talked politics or music. Were you his next door neighbor in
baltimore. did you go to school with him in oakland?
how do you actually no Tupac. is it from interviews in the source
or vibe? And how many ghetto kids do you know with tupac's album?
do you know any ghetto kids. What exactly is a ghetto kid?
what does he eat, listen to, study. How many suburban kids do you know
that bought the souls of mischief, or de la soul, or tribe?
how many ghetto kids are on the internet? how many suburban kids are
on the internet?
what's your function? how does your input really affect the coast war?
What's the point of you speculating on tupac, whom you don't know, and
telling other people who don't know about tupac like it's the gospel.
real hip hop? true hip hop? representing? signifying? keep it real?
it's all good?
it's all marketing with catchy slogans, and cd singles, and rap videos
shot in 70 mm film.
if you had a gun, and you saw tupac, or snoop would you end their lives
because you don't like their music? would you take a black man's life
for a trivial reason?
kari orr
In article <4q1a03$5...@news.abs.net>, Debra Berney <dbe...@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us> says:
>
>Mobb Deep and anyone else would fuck 2pac up. 2pac needs to watch or else he's gonna get shot
>again and this time he ain't gonna live.
do you know prodigy and havok? would they pick up a gun and end tupac's
life. What did he do to them? and where's your stake in this whole game?
if tupac, dre, bone, crucial conflict, hammer vanilla ice, snoop, the dogg
pound, and everyone else were to drop off the face of this earth, how
would your life improve?
k. orr
house of phat beats
kari orr
In article <4q1mq3$o...@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com>, bob...@ix.netcom.com(Insufficient Data ) says:
>
>>Mobb Deep and anyone else would fuck 2pac up. 2pac needs to watch or
>else he's gonna get shot
>>again and this time he ain't gonna live.
>>
so you actually support black on black violence, and would like to see
the end of another brother's life over major label marketing gimmicks?
maybe you should be reading white nationlism, or alt skinheads.
do you actually consider yourself a fan of hip hop culture and you want
to see people resolve their differences by violence?
APage20301
How can you say "Good" in response to the idea that someone would murder
Tupac? Have some human compassion for Christ's sake.
BestFCjc
In article <4q4eti$m...@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, or...@weiss.che.utexas.edu
(kari orr) writes:
>so you actually support black on black violence, and would like to see
>the end of another brother's life over major label marketing gimmicks?
>maybe you should be reading white nationlism, or alt skinheads.
>
>
I agree with K Orr......Most of this has been a marketing tool to grab the
weak and spineless (read:Tupac)....I like John Woo flims and Gansta Rap
but I know that it's nothing but a fantasy created to sell records....The
real ganstas are in jail....or dead (ask Pablo Escobar).
The sooner we all wake up and find out that most of this stuff is like
Pro-Wrestling....the better for all of us!!!
__________________________________________________________________
Christopher James Collier
"The Creator"
Atlanta, Georgia
Quote: "....I don't walk this way to protray/ or re-enforce stereotypes of
the day...Like all my brothers eat chicken and watermellon/talk broken
english and drug sellin'....."
"My Philosophy" -- Boogie Down Productions -- 1988
APage20301
You posted...
"Most of this has been a marketing tool to grab the
weak and spineless (read:Tupac)...."
???? What does this mean?
Lowbiker
do shit.
netq...@postoffice.ptd.net
In article <4r4g83$9...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lowb...@aol.com (Lowbiker)
wrote:
> Mobb deep aint for real. redman stepped up to Prodigy, and prodigy didnt
> do shit.
where did you here thet from?????/