Your favorite song right now
mochaspresso
store) and they were playing it. All the women started nodding and all
the men started groaning. It was funny.
360
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A to the L
"Nas can rhyme about shittin on the floor and mopping it up with kelis's hair
and it'll be sick if he rocks that scheme for at least 8 bars" - TJ Xenos
"there is no scientific term for the back of the knee."
"if someone made a pie with lil jon's face baked on it that would be amazing"
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in no particular order...
UGK - Murder
Big Moe f/ Z Ro & Tyte Eyes - City of Syrup (screwed)
Fat Pat - Tops Drop
Z Ro - (I dont know the name but it starts out "ima go to store for a
pack of phillies and be right back, then ima roll a philly fat as a
finger and light that" and on the chorus hes like "anything you need
from me gotta wait till I get high", AKA the official xenocrib
bluntjunt)
Trae f/ Fat Pat, HAWK, Pimp C - Swang (the mixtape/radio version with
the different sample, not the album version preferably slowed)
Ghost - Underwater
Lil Keke - Southside
Cam'ron f/ Hell Rell - War
E-40 f/ Juelz & UGK - White Girl
Street Military - Dead In a Year
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Oddisee: "Gentrification"
Gary Taylor: "Soul Murder"
Kev Brown f. Phonte & Oddisee: "Beats-n-Rhymes"
I had to throw two more in there. These people have straight heat.
Luca
I can never just decide for one.
Pumpkinhead & Sean Price - Xclusive (prod. by Illmind)
and
Understudies - Bananas (yes, still...)
Luca
--
"Fuck taggin it on walls, I leave it scarred in flesh."
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Jedi Mind Tricks - Razorblade Salvation
Little Brother - Life Of The Party
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Danger3210
Q-Tip Feat. Kurupt - Keep It Moving (off the Hi-Tek album)
AZ - The Format (Prod. By Primo)
Jay-Z - Kingdom Come (Just for Just Blaze really...)
Lupe Fiasco - Hurt Me Soul
TJ Xenos
Danger3210 wrote:
> The Game Feat. Nas - Why You Hate The Game (Prod. By Just Blaze)
Now here's a nas joint that has my interest piqued. The game is still
kinda terrible, but he's been improving and managages to not embarass
himself, and I think he'd complement nas well on the track (no I still
havent heard the full Nas/Game record JT put out). Game soudned pretty
good over the blaze tracks on the Documentary too. I assume this is
gonna be on the new Game record?
Danger3210
Nas is aight... He could do better but I guess he didn't want to
outshine Game too much on his own album...
As for Game, I'm REALLY undecided if I like him lyrically... I think
most times the production on his songs are so good it really doesn't
matter what the hell he's saying... (Really is there any rapper except
Jigga that picks better producers currently??? Even this album W/O Dre
has an all-star cast of producers i.e. Just Blaze, Kanye, Timbo, Cool &
Dre, etc...) His flow usually ranges from bad to atrocious but he seems
halfway decent on this song...
One thing he REALLY needs to stop doing tho is playing the "name drop"
game in his raps... I mean, jesus, every album track of his is like
this...
"Dr. Dre birthed me...
Eazy E brought out the worst in me...
Hitting switches in the caddy smoking Chronic...
Calvin Broadus fuckin bitches Doggystyle ironic...
Nas came out with Illmatic...
Beef with Jigga cooked on Ether classic..."
Enough already... It worked on the Documentary because I kinda felt
that was the gimmick of that album... To be a "documentary" of rap so
to speak... But he can't do this every album... It gets old REAL
quick... Still, I guess I would rather hear an album like this than
just an album of wackass G-Unit diss tracks...
And the songs I have heard from the new album have been pretty good...
Could be the album of the last quarter... (Cause the songs I've heard
from the Jigga album aint really impressing me like they should...)
ILL
> One thing he REALLY needs to stop doing tho is playing the "name drop"
> game in his raps... I mean, jesus, every album track of his is like
> this...
>
> "Dr. Dre birthed me...
> Eazy E brought out the worst in me...
> Hitting switches in the caddy smoking Chronic...
> Calvin Broadus fuckin bitches Doggystyle ironic...
> Nas came out with Illmatic...
> Beef with Jigga cooked on Ether classic..."
>
> Enough already... It worked on the Documentary because I kinda felt
> that was the gimmick of that album... To be a "documentary" of rap so
> to speak... But he can't do this every album... It gets old REAL
> quick... Still, I guess I would rather hear an album like this than
> just an album of wackass G-Unit diss tracks...
Exactly. His bragging rhymes seem to concentrate on dropping other
people's names. It's a total turn off for me at this point(no homo).
ILL
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>ILL
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TJ Xenos
Id rather dudes rap about hiphop records they've listened to a thousand
times than philosohpy books they read the cover and maybe the foreword
of.
suntzu
> One thing he REALLY needs to stop doing tho is playing the "name drop"
> game in his raps... I mean, jesus, every album track of his is like
> this...
>
> "Dr. Dre birthed me...
> Eazy E brought out the worst in me...
> Hitting switches in the caddy smoking Chronic...
> Calvin Broadus fuckin bitches Doggystyle ironic...
> Nas came out with Illmatic...
> Beef with Jigga cooked on Ether classic..."
>
lol (really), this is like every track i've ever heard by him (which
isn't many, but still).
he never struck me as outright bad. just very mediocre (which is almost
makes it less listenable).
suntzu
i guess, but i'm not clamoring to hear either.
Sumran
Danger3210 wrote:
> The Game Feat. Nas - Why You Hate The Game (Prod. By Just Blaze)
This is too long. The track should be like half the length (assuming
you have listened to the nine minute version)
kkd...@bellsouth.net
"Dying soul" by Dream Theater, 14 minute song, technically incredible
and complexed while grooving, no lyrics untill 2.5 minutes into the
song. All graduates of Berkley school of music and geniuses on their
instruments. yo
TJ Xenos
Pretentious and wanky. Fuck prog. Metal is about agression.
Danger3210
Usually I would agree with this but every time I play it, I play the
whole thing... I like the beat and the way the song plays out that much
(and the Floetry chick as well)...
And it's the last track of the album so the lengthy fade out of the
beat kinda fits...
ILL
>> Id rather dudes rap about hiphop records they've listened to a thousand
>> times than philosohpy books they read the cover and maybe the foreword
>> of.
>>
>
> i guess, but i'm not clamoring to hear either.
Yeah, both concepts are wack, wtf is the point TJ?
ILL
Jenna
I'm also going for Irreplacable. Dope dope dope. As for Hip-Hop,
'Don't Feel Right' by The Roots is nice.
TJ Xenos
My mind is about to explode from the fact that a bunch of people who
listen to so much hiphop and profess to love it can't bear to listen to
someone rhyme about it. Its the most real thing a dude can rhyme about
and the one thing you know every dude rapping has in common.
ILL
Hey, man I love rapping about rapping, just not the way game does it,
y'know. When he can't write a rhyme without mentioning multiple other
rappers, he starts to sound like a parody of himself.
ILL
mattmatical
>My mind is about to explode from the fact that a bunch of people who
>listen to so much hiphop and profess to love it can't bear to listen to
>someone rhyme about it. Its the most real thing a dude can rhyme about
>and the one thing you know every dude rapping has in common.
That would make for a nice signature.
Matt
"Hie cha's eim verleide, dir cha ni verzeihe"
kkd...@bellsouth.net
> > "Dying soul" by Dream Theater, 14 minute song, technically incredible
> > and complexed while grooving, no lyrics untill 2.5 minutes into the
> > song. All graduates of Berkley school of music and geniuses on their
> > instruments. yo
>
> Pretentious and wanky. Fuck prog. Metal is about agression.>>>>>>>>>>
Yeah I know, this is a hip-hop forum, surprised someone new who DT
cruises this group besides me. If all metal is about aggession then
what is thug rap about?, running through a field of tulips? Or beating,
robbing and slapping your bitch?
Pretentious and wanky>>>>>>> Why because they show off their skills on
an instrument? You talk about skills of a rapper, If one say's too many
words and mixes them creatively then is he pretentious and wanky? As
opposed to a rapper that say's yo and nothing else throughout a whole
song? You must like things dull and boring. yo
Um Jammer NATTY
kkdisc> Yeah I know, this is a hip-hop forum, surprised someone new who
DT
Please, newbie. read old posts, cats around here know mainstream bs
like DT. It's just beneath us.
New rock-ish, not much this year.
new TVOTR, XBXRX, those newish Cocorosie and Blonde Redhead were late
last year, right?
New Sufjan was outtakes, but good. And I've been listening to the Books
a lot.
I like it skronky and interesting, nothing technical about music IMO.
Good is good, and DT arn't.
Um Jammer NATTY
Um Jammer NATTY wrote:
BTW KKD, rappers who use a lot of words or rap fast for no reason other
than show off usually are pretentious and wanky.
You don't know us to well, we're the ng that jocks Greg Nice.
kkd...@bellsouth.net
> Please, newbie. read old posts, cats around here know mainstream bs
> like DT. It's just beneath us.
> >>>>>>>>>
He, pal I'm not trying to forcefeed DT to this group, I know better.
DT is not mainstream with 90% of their songs being 7 minutes and
longer, they are hardly ever on the radio, as oppossed the great one
note charlies like "usher" who just says yea fifty thousand times in a
made for radio/video song of the usual 2 minute 50 second time span.
Now thats boring, thats the same thing over and over again, I just
counted the notes in my head on his song and the total is 4. And
when they recorded that song, they could have dragged in any homeless
guy off the street and told him to hit that one note on the keyboard,
they could have even dragged your worthless ass in and you could have
done it. Oh yeah where is the great Ush now, but I will give him
credit for making millions for doing not much but have a flat stomach,
more power to ya, it's like digging for gold. anyone can do it, give em
a shovel, name me a great musicians that have been schooled that play
hip-hop, they would be board to death. Musicians HIRED do not count.
Where's A to the L. he'll fix everything.
kkd...@bellsouth.net
> Please, newbie. read old posts, cats around here know mainstream bs
> like DT. It's just beneath us.
> >>>>>>>>>
He, pal I'm not trying to forcefeed DT to this group, I know better.
A to the L
>Where's A to the L. he'll fix everything.
I'm right here, sweetness... and you're really picking the wrong
people to argue this out with. TJ is all metalled-up already, and
Natty is about as Hiphop as Tucker Carlson (no gangsta)
but at least your trolling attempts have progressed from simply called
people shitstains... kudos...
A to the L
"Nas can rhyme about shittin on the floor and mopping it up with kelis's hair
and it'll be sick if he rocks that scheme for at least 8 bars" - TJ Xenos
"there is no scientific term for the back of the knee."
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maybe if:
a) he was better at it
b) he didn't do it on all the tracks i've heard from him (which is
admittedly like 3 or 4, but that's not out of a very deep catalog).
although i can't think of any off hand, i'm sure there are plenty of
tracks i like where rappers rap about rap that they love. it's just
that none of those tracks are by the game, and i doubt any of the people
who did the tracks that i like made it the gimmick that they're known for.
i don't know, i haven't heard a ton of his music, but every time i've
heard him, he's struck me as being very mediocre. just not all that
memorable to me, for a guy that both fans and critics seem to jock so much.
suntzu
> TJ Xenos wrote:
>> ILL wrote:
>>> suntzu wrote:
>>>>> Id rather dudes rap about hiphop records they've listened to a
>>>>> thousand
>>>>> times than philosohpy books they read the cover and maybe the foreword
>>>>> of.
>>>>>
>>>> i guess, but i'm not clamoring to hear either.
>>> Yeah, both concepts are wack, wtf is the point TJ?
>>>
>>> ILL
>>
>> My mind is about to explode from the fact that a bunch of people who
>> listen to so much hiphop and profess to love it can't bear to listen to
>> someone rhyme about it. Its the most real thing a dude can rhyme about
>> and the one thing you know every dude rapping has in common.
>>
>
> maybe if:
> a) he was better at it
> b) he didn't do it on all the tracks i've heard from him (which is
> admittedly like 3 or 4, but that's not out of a very deep catalog).
>
> although i can't think of any off hand, i'm sure there are plenty of
> tracks i like where rappers rap about rap that they love. it's just
> that none of those tracks are by the game, and i doubt any of the people
> who did the tracks that i like made it the gimmick that they're known for.
>
ok, the first one that comes to mind is "old school" by 2pac, and it's
not that he's miles ahead lyrically, but he has way more presence and
charisma than the game.
nesta
TJ Xenos wrote:
>
> > > One thing he REALLY needs to stop doing tho is playing the "name drop"
> > > game in his raps.
> >
> > people's names. It's a total turn off for me at this point(no homo).
> >
> times than philosohpy books they read the cover and maybe the foreword
> of.
If he really wanted to rap _about_ records, that might be interesting.
But from what I've heard and remember, he doesn't do that. He does
just drop names, to little seeming purpose except to prove he knows MC
X did Y, and maybe he can make a simile about it. Which isn't a bad
thing but I agree it can get tired quickly. If he would rhyme about a
record that influenced him and explain why, what was dope about it, how
it changed shit, what it means...well, that sort of stuff might work
better in an essay, but if he could write dope lyrics in that vein they
would be worth hearing.
suntzu
someone finally hit a nerve and got the troll to stop trolling.
well done, tj.
suntzu
> kkdisc> Yeah I know, this is a hip-hop forum, surprised someone new who
> DT
>
> Please, newbie. read old posts, cats around here know mainstream bs
> like DT. It's just beneath us.
>
> New rock-ish, not much this year.
> new TVOTR, XBXRX, those newish Cocorosie and Blonde Redhead were late
> last year, right?
>
> New Sufjan was outtakes, but good. And I've been listening to the Books
> a lot.
yeah, i listened to a bunch of books earlier this year. good stuff, i
should throw that back into the rotation.
the prefuse remix EP was good too. solid, overall, with a couple of
real standouts (track 5 and track 8, if i remember correctly).
suntzu
a) there are a number of musicians who fit your criteria who are not
bored of hip-hop.
b) schooling does not necessarily make you a good musician, nor should
it count in your favor when your music is being judged. the only thing
that matters is the music you produce. if you need your music to fall
into the structure that traditional musical training provides, that's
all well and good, but it's really a matter of taste.
c) there are maybe two people here who jock usher at all.
d) no one on here's looking to be fed something mainstream, although i
think all the regulars on here have also moved past the stage of writing
something off simply because it's mainstream. you should do the same,
if you haven't.
suntzu
> kkdisc> Yeah I know, this is a hip-hop forum, surprised someone new who
> DT
>
> Please, newbie. read old posts, cats around here know mainstream bs
> like DT. It's just beneath us.
>
> New rock-ish, not much this year.
> new TVOTR, XBXRX, those newish Cocorosie and Blonde Redhead were late
> last year, right?
oh, and the daedelus album from earlier this year is very good. bright,
upbeat electronica, but it doesn't feel saccharine at all (IMO, at
least). not rock, but on the general topic of this year's good
non-hip-hop releases.
Um Jammer NATTY
suntzu wrote
> oh, and the daedelus album from earlier this year is very good. bright,
> upbeat electronica
ill check it. we have enough similar tastes that i trust you. ive
actually started to really enjoy a lot of u.s. indietronica. it doesnt
follow 'the rules'.
kkd...@bellsouth.net
A to the L wrote:
> On 2 Nov 2006 14:16:16 -0800, kkd...@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
>
> >Where's A to the L. he'll fix everything.
>
> I'm right here, sweetness... and you're really picking the wrong
> people to argue this out with. TJ is all metalled-up already, and
> Natty is about as Hiphop as Tucker Carlson (no gangsta)
>
> but at least your trolling attempts have progressed from simply called
> people shitstains... kudos...
>
> A to the L
>
got it, I will reel in my lure
suntzu
i'm definitely stealing the term indietronica, because i've always
disliked the term IDM.
Wasteland Drifter
What's 'folktronica'?
There's way too many genres and sub-genre's of everything...
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mochaspresso wrote:
> Mine is Beyonce "Irreplacable". I was in PayHalf (a discount clothing
> store) and they were playing it. All the women started nodding and all
> the men started groaning. It was funny.
That new Earth Wind & Fire track.
What's it called anyway? At least I think it's fairly new..
STRATEGY
suntzu
> on 04/11/2006, suntzu supposed :
>> Um Jammer NATTY wrote:
>>> suntzu wrote
>>>> oh, and the daedelus album from earlier this year is very good.
>>>> bright,
>>>> upbeat electronica
>>>
>>> ill check it. we have enough similar tastes that i trust you. ive
>>> actually started to really enjoy a lot of u.s. indietronica. it doesnt
>>> follow 'the rules'.
>>>
>>
>> i'm definitely stealing the term indietronica, because i've always
>> disliked the term IDM.
>
> What's 'folktronica'?
>
folktronica is a label that was used for four tet (and maybe other
people? not sure). i don't think it makes much sense except for maybe a
few songs on pause and a few songs on rounds (and even then, it's a much
cheesier sounding label than the tracks deserve, it's really just some
folk instruments/samples in tracks of his that have an otherwise very
electronic sound/structure).
> There's way too many genres and sub-genre's of everything...
>
yeah
Wasteland Drifter
So it's not nessesarily folk musicians using electronica more
electronica musicians using folk and then someone's labelled it
something...
Fair enough.
>> There's way too many genres and sub-genre's of everything...
>>
>
> yeah
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mochaspresso wrote:
> Mine is Beyonce "Irreplacable". I was in PayHalf (a discount clothing
> store) and they were playing it. All the women started nodding and all
> the men started groaning. It was funny.
Buju Banton & Pinchers - Don & Dupes
Um Jammer NATTY
are more like Plunderfolknics ; )
kkd...@bellsouth.net
2 bass notes and a simple drumtrack, nice and easy, don't want you to
think to much. As uSher says 50 thousand times a song "yea"
kkd...@bellsouth.net
> someone finally hit a nerve and got the troll to stop trolling.
>
> well done, tj.>>>>
You said post your favorits song, and I did. so people attacked D.T.
and I stuck up for them, thats trolling? Just because the band I like
can play . Jazz, country, classical, hard rock, soft rock, hip-hop,
rap and many other musical styles, and your favorites can only play one
style, don't get all upset.
I do love the 757th time Usher say's "yea" in his 1 hit, it has a
different tone then the 5000 other "yeah's" in the song.. "yea"
A to the L
its actually the 7th time...
suntzu
> when I hear 'folktronica' I immediately hear The Books. Although they
> are more like Plunderfolknics ; )
>
yeah, actually, that's a good point, i don't know why the books don't
come to mind when i hear folktronica, the term generally fits them
better than it does four tet.
suntzu
>> someone finally hit a nerve and got the troll to stop trolling.
>>
>> well done, tj.>>>>
>
> You said post your favorits song, and I did. so people attacked D.T.
> and I stuck up for them, thats trolling? Just because the band I like
> can play . Jazz, country, classical, hard rock, soft rock, hip-hop,
> rap and many other musical styles, and your favorites can only play one
> style, don't get all upset.
>
no, the sticking up for them seemed genuine, that was my point.