Did Dre produce those Eminem tracks? I'm feeling them.
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Oh my God. Eminem is ridiculous. I want his album NOW. Those songs are
funny as hell! The third verse in the one with Dr. Dre is absolutely
hysterical. With the right marketing, Eminem could go plat. Think about
it: Signed to a major label with great distribution, gets production and
guest raps from Dre, is white *and* dope, is side-splittingly funny, has
sick subject matter and is fucked up in the head. He's loaded wih
gimmicks, *plus* he's ill both lyrically and flow-wise! What more could
you want?
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>Oh my God. Eminem is ridiculous. I want his album NOW. Those songs are
>funny as hell! The third verse in the one with Dr. Dre is absolutely
>hysterical. With the right marketing, Eminem could go plat. Think about
>it: Signed to a major label with great distribution, gets production and
>guest raps from Dre, is white *and* dope, is side-splittingly funny, has
>sick subject matter and is fucked up in the head. He's loaded wih
>gimmicks, *plus* he's ill both lyrically and flow-wise! What more could
>you want?
What surprised me is that these songs were actually dope. When
I said I wanted Eminem to get better production I wasn't thinking of
Dre at all. But if Dre produced these he gets his "props". Not only
are they dope they sound like they could even blow up on commercial
radio. I just hope on his album he gives the dope underground
kids he's down with. And no, not those wack kids on his EP.
Shit. . . that was dope. . . you know, what's up with Dre? I'm starting to
think that whole thing with ditching gangsta rap wasn't just a gimmick and
that he really is into some real Hip-Hop. . . I mean, look at who he's
signed. Golden State Warriors, Eminem, hell, even the Firm weren't THAT
wack. Remember how awful some of those groups were on that Aftermath
compilation? Nice to see that he's cleaned up his act a little. I still
kinda wish that Snoop would've signed with Aftermath instead of No Limit,
though. . . I mean, say what you want about the commercial gangsta garbage
of the early 90's, but some of the material Snoop and Dre performed together
was some DOPE Hip-Hop.
Anyone think that Dre could actually make it as a prominent figure in the
underground Hip-Hop scene? Maybe that's what he's going for. . . I mean, the
guy has more money than he knows what to do with, so maybe he just wants to
"keep it real" a little better now. Who knows?
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> Oh yeah, props to the guy that runs this site. Since I have a stereo
> hooked up to my computer, I can record your loops.
>
> Anyone else noticed that anyone can drop a nice freestlye over the
> High and Mighty instrumental "Open mic night"? I love that beat.
I actually thought Fuzz delivered a verse that was better than Slim Shady's on
"Nobody's as ill as me".
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"he's white *and* dope"
sorry but you sound like a moron
I know what you mean. No exaggeration, Em had me giggling from the second
line of the first new song he has (the one without Dre). Where he talks about
shoving nine inch nails thru each one of his eyelids and figuring out which
Spice Girl he wants to impregnate.
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No, that is a brand new track from the Aftermath label.
Technically neither song is without Dre cause in the first one Dre has two
lines in the first third of the song... but then again when have I ever been
anal like that? Wait a sec... nevermind...
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Hi there! Thanks for not understanding what I was writing and allowing me
the forum to correct you! Let's take a peek at what I wrote, shall we?
Your Idol wrote:
> With the right marketing, Eminem could go plat. Think about
>it: Signed to a major label with great distribution, gets production and
>guest raps from Dre, is white *and* dope, is side-splittingly funny, has
>sick subject matter and is fucked up in the head. He's loaded wih
>gimmicks, *plus* he's ill both lyrically and flow-wise! What more could
>you want?
Oh, snap! Was I talking about things that would appeal to a mass market
that doesn't know shit about underground hip-hop? By Golly, it seems that
I was! See, since most mainstream hip-hop fans don't have access to
underground hip-hop, they haven't heard anyone like El-P or Esoteric, and
therefore they have never heard a dope white MC, since Vanilla Ice and
Everlast do not qualify. The White America that buys the majority of
hip-hop CDs secretly yearns for a Great White Hope. So it would appeal to
the record buying masses that he was white, yet could actually rap good. I
know what you're thinking: "Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh, *now* I get it! My
bad, I fucked up! I'll never respond to you with some ignorant bullshit
again." Well, I'm glad you feel that way. I had a feeling you'd come
around after I set you straight.
BTW, you post from Yale? You a janitor or something?
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>Shit. . . that was dope. . . you know, what's up with Dre? I'm starting to
>think that whole thing with ditching gangsta rap wasn't just a gimmick and
>that he really is into some real Hip-Hop. . . I mean, look at who he's
>signed. Golden State Warriors, Eminem, hell, even the Firm weren't THAT
>wack.
Nah, I think the Firm was THAT wack.
But don't forget about the Last Emperor and Black Eye Peas.
Oh, you go fired?
But seriously, I'm perfecly OK with being ignorant about that little fact,
as there was no way for me to know otherwise. It was ignorant, but not
stupid, whereas sometimes other people make comments that are both.
> As for the Eminem comments about a "Great White Hope," maybe
> that's what you yearn for. In case you haven't noticed, the majority of
> whites don't even like rap, maybe they all do in the burbs that you're
> from, but not where i live.
>
Well, yes, in the burbs where I live a whole lot of white people do like
rap. Maybe not a majority of whites like rap, but whites still make up the
majority of the rap-purchasing audience, and they would like to see a dope
white MC. Therefore, by no fault of his own, Eminem's whiteness coupled
with his dopeness is a gimmick to mainstream listeners, who may (with the
correct marketing) buy his album en mass.
I find it odd that you chose to mention the burbs specifically, like I'm
supposed to be ashamed of living there. Not everyone can get a caretaker's
shed at Yale, you know. Back to the GWH, no, it's not something I yearn
for, I've already heard several dope white MCs. Major-label listeners
haven't.
BTW, where do you live?
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T-Mo
Mike Burke.
>Nah, I think the Firm was THAT wack.
Okay, maybe. But I have to admit, their album wasn't as bad, in my mind, as
a lot of heads were saying it was. I was almost surprised; I expected it to
be total trash. There's no way I'd buy it, but a few tracks weren't bad.
>But don't forget about the Last Emperor and Black Eye Peas.
I DID forget about Last Emperor, and honestly, I've never even heard
anything by Black Eye Peas. Ain't it weird that Dre's signing all these
acts, though? Could he be an underground Hip-Hop head stuck in a popular
commercial rapper's body? I don't know, I've always had lots of respect for
Dr. Dre (can't front on some of his tracks), and his signing of all these
underground rappers just confirms that respect again. This really is weird,
though, when you think about it. . . I mean, Dre's probably the closest
thing to Puffy in the rap industry. Could you imagine Puff signing Co-Flow
to Bad Boy or something like that? It ain't that different than Dre signing
all these underground acts to Aftermath. Of course, who knows, maybe that's
what Dre was intending all along for his new label.
>I mean, Dre's probably the closest
>thing to Puffy in the rap industry. Could you imagine Puff signing Co-Flow
>to Bad Boy or something like that? It ain't that different than Dre signing
>all these underground acts to Aftermath. Of course, who knows, maybe that's
>what Dre was intending all along for his new label.
I wouldn't say that. I would consider Master P or Jermain Dupri alot
more like Puff than Dre is. And Dre is going to try to make money off
these artists. I think he actually thinks artists like Last Emperor, Eminem,
Black Eye Peas, and Golden State Warriors can be successful. Do
you really think Puff would hear Company Flow and say, "I bet I could
blow these guys up with the proper marketing" (which is what Dre was
probably thinking when he heard the artists he signed).
>
> Oh my God. Eminem is ridiculous. I want his album NOW. Those songs
> are
>funny as hell! The third verse in the one with Dr. Dre is absolutely
>hysterical. With the right marketing, Eminem could go plat. Think about
>it: Signed to a major label with great distribution, gets production and
>guest raps from Dre, is white *and* dope, is side-splittingly funny, has
>sick subject matter and is fucked up in the head. He's loaded wih
>gimmicks, *plus* he's ill both lyrically and flow-wise! What more could
>you want?
>
I really think Eminem will blow up...he's got dope dope lines that will keep
us interested...
That sick shit will pull another core audience all around the country, from
Brotha Lynch Hung fans to the Geto Boyz fans and so forth...
Dre will get him some exposure, though I don't see him blwoing up the same way
Snoop did, despite the gangsta lyrics and all Snoop is more radio friendly
IMO.
But I think he will really find in audience with alternative skater types, the
people who jumped on Wu Tang. I think he taps into that death metal kind of
style, plus being white is a bonus in this case. He can pull some Marilyn
Manson fans I think.
It's gonna be interesting to see what happens, and what our reaction will be
to it.
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Mathew Chakko wrote:
> I really think Eminem will blow up...he's got dope dope lines that will keep
> us interested...
>
> That sick shit will pull another core audience all around the country, from
> Brotha Lynch Hung fans to the Geto Boyz fans and so forth...
>
> Dre will get him some exposure, though I don't see him blwoing up the same way
> Snoop did, despite the gangsta lyrics and all Snoop is more radio friendly
> IMO.
>
> But I think he will really find in audience with alternative skater types, the
> people who jumped on Wu Tang. I think he taps into that death metal kind of
> style, plus being white is a bonus in this case. He can pull some Marilyn
> Manson fans I think.
>
> It's gonna be interesting to see what happens, and what our reaction will be
> to it.
>
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Master Sage wrote:
> Could you imagine Puff signing Co-Flow
>to Bad Boy or something like that?
El-P? Accepting? To Puff?
Hmmmm....
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