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hiphop for a hypothetical grand hiphop database type thing...
What would you add to these? (no regional or date based please)
Trip-hop
Electro
Gangsta (that spelling I'm afraid)
Conscious
Bass Music
Go-Go
Thug Rap
Cut-up/DJ
R&B/Swing
Ragga
Pop Rap
Thank you please...
BSE
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"bse" <b...@YOURHANDSFROMYOURLAPukseen.com> wrote in message
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> What would you add to these? (no regional or date based please)
I's add Bounce
bse
"R!cky" <KEEPri...@excite.comYOURSPAM> wrote:
What's teh proper definition of bounce? examples?
Bulla
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Its interesting that you include Ragga as a form of Hip Hop. Wasnt Ragga
spurned by King Jammy ?
bse
wrote:
Yeah I'm not so much including it as a form of hiphop, more a style that
can be incorporated into hiphop. (plus its a backdoor way of getting
mroe music into said hypothetical database).
Eitan Prince
"bse" <b...@YOURHANDSFROMYOURLAPukseen.com> wrote in message
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> hiphop for a hypothetical grand hiphop database type thing...
>
> What would you add to these? (no regional or date based please)
Jazz rap, in the mold of Dream Warriors, Us3 etc. Yes, it's cheesy; yes, it
exists.
Eitan
bse
"Eitan Prince" <e.pr...@ru.ac.za> wrote:
> "bse" <b...@YOURHANDSFROMYOURLAPukseen.com> wrote in message
> news:bse-B7A549.0...@news-text.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Just say you were contributing a a list of styles incorporated into
> > hiphop for a hypothetical grand hiphop database type thing...
> >
> > What would you add to these? (no regional or date based please)
>
> Jazz rap, in the mold of Dream Warriors, Us3 etc. Yes, it's cheesy; yes, it
> exists.
Is that the word we use? "Jazz Rap"? Does that include Gang* and the
Roots?
Bulla
Oh right cool, the boundaries have been blurred anyway with the likes of
Sean Paul etc....
bse
wrote:
Or Just Ice, KRS One, Mad Cobra, Born Jamericans etc etc much earlier.
Bulla
Yeah good point although they are still rhyming over hip hop beats and have
Jamaican accents. Sean Paul was a Dancehall artist, now it seems he'll do
anything for coin !
Noixe, the other Adrock
it's basically mannie fresh style instrumentals with lil jon style
lyrics over it. tight shit, huge down south. it is to new orleans
what miami bass is to, uh, miami.
R!cky
"bse" <b...@YOURHANDSFROMYOURLAPukseen.com> wrote in message
> What's teh proper definition of bounce? examples?
>
DJ Jubilee is the epitome of what Bounce is. Also Ricky B, T Tucker & DJ
Irv, pre Cash Money Juvenile, and pre No Limit Soulja Slim (he was known as
Magnolia Slim) are some other examples I can think of off the top of the
head.. It's pretty big in the south, particularly new orleans.
Jay Sidhu
<b...@YOURHANDSFROMYOURLAPukseen.com> wrote:
>Just say you were contributing a a list of styles incorporated into
>hiphop for a hypothetical grand hiphop database type thing...
>
>What would you add to these? (no regional or date based please)
>
>Trip-hop
>Electro
>Gangsta (that spelling I'm afraid)
>Conscious
>Bass Music
>Go-Go
>Thug Rap
>Cut-up/DJ
>R&B/Swing
>Ragga
>Pop Rap
>
what about downtempo? like that shit dj shadow and dj krush do?
peace!
Jay Sidhu
Brian 4 Ever
Miracle, Drama, Baby D, Bonecrusher..ect To hear some of these type
songs listen to......
"Bounce"- Miracle
"We Ready"-Pastor Troy
'Left Right Left"-Drama
"Walk It"-Intoxicated/Baby D
"Bia Bia"-Lil Jon...
ect ect ect
Brian 4 Ever
success of Sean Paul, Wayne Wonder and Elephant Man. Plus u had past
hits from Shabba Ranks, Buju Banton, Mad Cobra and Super Cat. Plus there
are hip hop MCs who incorporate Patois...Jamaican language...and/or
Rastafarian culture into their songs like KRS One, Born Jamericans, Boot
Camp, and Wyclef. Alot of ppl debate whether Dancehall is a form of
reggae, a form of hip hop of a music all by itself. But it is
historically proven that reggae music helped push hip hop music ahead
when Kool Herc came over from Jamaica and introduced mixing and
toasting/MCn to the music scene in NY. First Sound System was back i
think in 1962 by C.S Dodd, the brains behind Studio One. A sound system
consists of a basically a selecta and an MC. To hip hop that would be a
DJ and MC. Dancehall music is believed to have started in the mid 70s
but it is debatable just like when hip hop was started. Dancehall
infiltrated the US in the early 90s with Shabba Ranks and Super Cat
leading the way. Sean Paul once said that Dancehall and Hip Hop are
cousins and thats why the artists jump from genre to genre alot. To help
some of yall out ill list what most traditionalists describe reggae and
hip hop as.....
Reggae
Dancehall(Sean Paul, Elephant, Capleton)
Ska(Skalites, Derrick Morgan..ect)
Roots & Cultjah(Sizzla, Anthony B, Jah Mason)
Lovers Rock(Beres Hammond,Sanchez..)
Hip Hop
NY/East(Nas, Jigga,Clipse,Def Squad)
Dirty/Down South(Outkast,Lil Jon,Ludacris)
West Coast(E-40,West.Connection..)
Midwest(Nelly, BTNH,Tech9ne..)
Down South Booty(2 live crew, 69 boyz)
Undaground(Atmosphere,Slum Village..)
...........Thats all i can think of for now.
bse
Jay Sidhu <jsid...@hotmail.comNOSPAM> wrote:
downtempo. I dont know. To me it's a non-entity. If were gonna have a
word for this stuff I think it has to be Trip-hop cos thats what most
people say (however much the term sucks).
I don't know.... what do we think.
("Bounce" or "Bounce Music")
Kuahmel Allah
Boom-Bap
Underground
Mob
Hip-House
Drum and Bass
Gospel (Christian)
Crunk
Screw
Garage
pick and choose....
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bse
blackn...@aol.compostheap (Kuahmel Allah) wrote:
> Nerd rap
I don't think so... who's gonna submit something and call it that
themselves
> Boom-Bap
yeah I thought of this bu I don't know if you can quite define it.
> Underground
Maybe, its kind of subjective though.
> Mob
Lump with thug.
> Hip-House
Yeah probably.
> Drum and Bass
> Gospel (Christian)
I suppose Gospel rap is relevant but I don't know...
> Crunk
> Screw
I was leaving these two out cos... I don't know why but I was.
> Garage
Nah.
I personally would have it all as just HIphop but that aint a popular
idea.
Dippi
"bse" <b...@YOURHANDSFROMYOURLAPukseen.com> wrote in message
> In article <20031114142145...@mb-m05.aol.com>,
> blackn...@aol.compostheap (Kuahmel Allah) wrote:
>
> > Nerd rap
>
> I don't think so... who's gonna submit something and call it that
> themselves
>
> > Boom-Bap
>
> yeah I thought of this bu I don't know if you can quite define it.
>
> > Underground
>
> Maybe, its kind of subjective though.
>
> > Mob
>
> Lump with thug.
>
> > Hip-House
>
> Yeah probably.
>
> > Drum and Bass
> > Gospel (Christian)
>
> I suppose Gospel rap is relevant but I don't know...
>
> > Crunk
> > Screw
>
> I was leaving these two out cos... I don't know why but I was.
>
the whole thing is invalid if you dont have a screw section... including
anyone who came out of the screw scene
ie: paul wall and chammillionaire shit regular speed... it gets classified
in the screw section, but you have in the title whether its a screwed
version or not, cuz most come out both ways...
--
Dippi
"my life, seems like a movie but its real to me
and i aint feelin yall so I make music for me
yall hate me, but god did that up already
dont give a fuck no more, down to duel wit machettes"
Kuahmel Allah
Lump with thug.
<<<
You could lump "gangsta" with thug if that was the case.
Mob is simply for ridin' your car to, not necessarily always thugged out....
Nestajones
>Date: 11/11/2003 11:09 PM Eastern Standard Time
>What would you add to these? (no regional or date based please)
why not? i think such descriptions make at least as much sense as those you
listed.
or you just don't want the _name_ of the style to have a region or date in it?
>Trip-hop
>Electro
>Gangsta (that spelling I'm afraid)
>Conscious
>Bass Music
>Go-Go
>Thug Rap
>Cut-up/DJ
>R&B/Swing
>Ragga
>Pop Rap
some of those refer to lyrical style, some to musical style...where would you
put some thugged out go-go cat?
bse
nesta...@aol.com (Nestajones) wrote:
> >From: bse b...@YOURHANDSFROMYOURLAPukseen.com
> >Date: 11/11/2003 11:09 PM Eastern Standard Time
>
> >What would you add to these? (no regional or date based please)
>
> why not? i think such descriptions make at least as much sense as those you
> listed.
Agreed but thats not the MO of the database.
> or you just don't want the _name_ of the style to have a region or date in it?
Im acting on behalf of a highger power my friend.
> >Trip-hop
> >Electro
> >Gangsta (that spelling I'm afraid)
> >Conscious
> >Bass Music
> >Go-Go
> >Thug Rap
> >Cut-up/DJ
> >R&B/Swing
> >Ragga
> >Pop Rap
>
> some of those refer to lyrical style, some to musical style...where would you
> put some thugged out go-go cat?
They are styles which can be applied to a release. So they appear under
the banner of Genre: Hiphop and then have Styles: Go-go, Thug Rap, etc
They can have 3 styles. Anyway I dont even care about this style shit,
its not gonna mean anything to anyone.
BSE
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artists submitting brand new songs or something?
Explain.
bse
blackn...@aol.compostheap (Kuahmel Allah) wrote:
> What's going in the database, anyway, catalog songs wer already know, or
> artists submitting brand new songs or something?
>
> Explain.
It's the hiphop wing of discogs.com which is like a musical IMDB. THe
hiphop bit will be opening soon and were just trying to get them to
make it serve our needs.