Hip Hop Infinity's 2002 Top 50 MCs...
Gavin-X
http://www.hiphopinfinity.com/Articles/Top50_02_2.htm
As usual its quite a ridiculous list. Exactly what did Common and Pharoah Monch
even do last year at all, let alone to warrant top 10 positions?
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TJ Xenos
>As usual its quite a ridiculous list. Exactly what did Common and Pharoah
>Monch
>even do last year at all, let alone to warrant top 10 positions?
uhh pharoahe had that shitty song on the training day soundtrack... I think
common was on a bilal song or remix or something? lol.
T.J. Xenos
xen...@student.wit.edu
"It's not some safe thing like Fugazi where everyone sits down and eats their
tofu and goes 'wow man, that's revolutionary' " - Jerry A of Poison Idea
TJ Xenos
Jay-z 6
Nas 10
Em 11 (iffy if hes in my top 5 since he did nothing of note in 2k2)
Ghost 18
mega - unranked
ludacris - unranked.
Fuck, there's maybe a dozen guys on the list who'd even make my list. I mean
if we're gonna jock the shit out of abstract stuff, where's pep love? He
dropped an album light years better than krs and is flat out doper than many of
the artists on the list.
TJ Xenos
2k1 rather.
Pepé
Monch
> even do last year at all, let alone to warrant top 10 positions?
Damn. This was even more annoying than the usual commercial artist list.
Haven't even heard the names of a lot of these.. hip-hop infinity are
apparently backpacking muthaf:ers.
Michael Fthenos
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> Here's the first page link:
> http://www.hiphopinfinity.com/Articles/Top50_02_2.htm
>
>
> As usual its quite a ridiculous list. Exactly what did Common and Pharoah Monch
> even do last year at all, let alone to warrant top 10 positions?
Before even clicking the link, I'll guarantee I know about 15 of the
MC's on there. They're easily the most elitist motherfuckers in the
world. Horrible horrible horrible. I remember being curious about some
of the guys on there last year, checking them out, and wanting to punch
hiphopinfinity in the mouth.
MF
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B. David Harrison
> Here's the first page link:
> http://www.hiphopinfinity.com/Articles/Top50_02_2.htm
>
Not good. Sage Francis too high, Slug too low... lots of other bad
stuff... Common at 5 is a damn joke.
I know I couldn't rank 50 MCs if I tried. I know who I like, who tends
to move me the most, but anything more than a list of my personal 10
wouldn't be meaningful.
Why not just put up a list of "50 MCs we think are dope, and the folks
in this group are doper than most".
B. David Harrison
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Michael Fthenos
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> Today, 8 Feb 2002, Gavin-X ran the dern jibber-jabber
>
> > Here's the first page link:
> > http://www.hiphopinfinity.com/Articles/Top50_02_2.htm
> >
>
> Not good. Sage Francis too high, Slug too low... lots of other bad
> stuff... Common at 5 is a damn joke.
I couldn't understand why other MC's were dropped for not doing much
this year, while they admit Sage didn't do much, and had him move up.
Ugh.
David Frank
> As usual its quite a ridiculous list. Exactly what did Common and Pharoah Monch
> even do last year at all, let alone to warrant top 10 positions?
I've never understood why Pharoahe Monch has always gotten so much praise --"born
with a silver mic in his hand" or whatever the hyperbole has been. He's mad
overrated. I mean, I haven't studied the guy's catalog of work because I just don't
find him that compelling or talented. He's got complex lyrics I guess, but he's
also got a bad voice, annoying inflections (that people seem to interpret as dope),
mediocre flow, no personality really. And what are his signature tracks? 'Simon
Says'? 'Stress' or whatever that album was called had some nice cuts, but come on,
the only place this is classic material is in the imaginations of over eager,
go-out-on-a-limb historians and underground jockers. I'd like to re-evaluate
Equinox, but I can't forget those disappointing memories I had after 1.5 listens
back when it dropped (9 times 8 or something was the only decent cut).
peace.
cyris
> http://www.hiphopinfinity.com/Articles/Top50_02_2.htm
>
>
> As usual its quite a ridiculous list. Exactly what did Common and Pharoah
Monch
> even do last year at all, let alone to warrant top 10 positions?
>
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What is wrong with everybody? The same thing happens here every time HHI
puts out a list. It's HIP HOP INFINITY's top 50, in other words, the people
who run the site make a list of their 50 favourite artists. It's in their
opinion, and it is posted on their site because the people who go to that
site are actually interested in their opinion. Do you think Jay Seagraves is
gonna be like "Euhhh, Sage Francis isn't even on TJ Xenos' top 5!".. and
they're elitist because MF hasn't heard of most of the people on the list?
And yet he/you are the one who wants to "punch them in the mouth"? Gimme a
break. Why does it piss everyone off that there are people who have entirely
different tastes than you? I don't think that list was aimed at the RMHH
crowd..
°°°Super-C°°°
Pepé
> puts out a list. It's HIP HOP INFINITY's top 50, in other words, the
people
> who run the site make a list of their 50 favourite artists. It's in their
> opinion, and it is posted on their site because the people who go to that
> site are actually interested in their opinion. Do you think Jay Seagraves
is
> gonna be like "Euhhh, Sage Francis isn't even on TJ Xenos' top 5!".. and
> they're elitist because MF hasn't heard of most of the people on the list?
> And yet he/you are the one who wants to "punch them in the mouth"? Gimme a
> break. Why does it piss everyone off that there are people who have
entirely
> different tastes than you? I don't think that list was aimed at the RMHH
> crowd..
Yeah, but one could suspect that the people who write this believe
themselves to be very cool for listening to [ridicilously] underground
artists...
And to make a fair comment: I totaly disagree with their list. The artists
on the top 10 are in my opinion not the greatest MC's of last year, and just
like Fthenos I looked up some of the ones I hadn't heard of... and now I
want to punch somebody in the mouth!
/Pepe
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what planet?! And they shower praises on Del and no Pep Love? C'mon. As
one respondent astutely mentioned, it's their site and their list. It's
all debateable and solely opinionated. I find it a valuable learning
tool though. I consider myself a Hip Hopper(not an elitist) and many of
the artists listed there I've never heard any of their work in this neck
of woods(the Illadelph) and a few I've never even heard of period. One
of which, is this kid named Sage Francis. Sole, I heard snippets of
"Bottles of Humans" over at Amazon.com and he's sorry. But at least I
have "heard" of them and that's what I'm about. Even if I don't like
them as artists, I'd still like to be abreast of as many artists as I
can. If it's not on the radio and you mention Juice, Moka Only, Sonya
Blade or a Mykill Miers to some heads, they say, "huh, who dat?". Even
though some of their choices could be suspect, I see their list overall
as a good tool in helping me expand my knowledge of artists that we
don't hear of over here.
PEACE!
Rane of Terror
Nesta
>From: David Frank dfr...@pitt.edu
>I've never understood why Pharoahe Monch has always gotten so much praise
>--"born
>with a silver mic in his hand" or whatever the hyperbole has been. He's
>mad
>overrated.
>'Simon
>Says'? 'Stress' or whatever that album was called had some nice cuts,
wow...
i was just listening to this album again the other night, and it blows my mind
how dope pharoah was. and how dope the production was. 1994 was the shit.
sorry i don't have the time for any more detail right now, but no other mcs can
do some of the shit pharoah has done
...nesta...
Most of you can't even comprehend what I am saying to you
Even in my human form the message I'm relaying
One good thing about music
When it hits you feel no pain
Trey Lathikes
> have "heard" of them and that's what I'm about. Even if I don't like
> them as artists, I'd still like to be abreast of as many artists as I
> can. If it's not on the radio and you mention Juice, Moka Only, Sonya
> Blade or a Mykill Miers to some heads, they say, "huh, who dat?". Even
> though some of their choices could be suspect, I see their list overall
> as a good tool in helping me expand my knowledge of artists that we
> don't hear of over here.
Well said. I myself just started downloading stuff from the MC's i'd never
heard of until now.
- tL
dula dibiasi
dudes' OPINIONS (and should really be called "favorite emcees of 4
arbitrary niggas who are prolly newjack ass herbs anyway"), i don't
necessarily see the relevance of doing a "greatest/best mc" list every
year. it's like when you talk about great nba players, you don't just
take the 25 guys who made the all star team and say they're the
"greatest" players, you take it back to magic, bird, mj, doc, wilt,
russell, etc. i basically have a list of "hall of fame" type emcees
that i feel are the best.
rakim
kane
g rap
ricky d
cool j
krs
chuck d
cube
nas
pac
big
jay
redman
eminem
pun
common
andre
ghost
that's it. i don't update it every year, or every time i hear a new
song, new verse, etc. i don't rank them, i just know who's the best to
me.
niggas need to understand the difference between "my favorite" and
"the best"
i'd rather hear styles p barkin on niggas or mega talkin about
cocaine, nikes and lexuses than 90% of the chumps on that list, that
don't mean i think they're the best.
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TJ Xenos
>rakim
>kane
>g rap
>ricky d
>cool j
>
>krs
>chuck d
>cube
>
>nas
>pac
>big
>jay
>
>redman
>eminem
>pun
>common
>andre
>ghost
>
>
son, one question. Where's scarface? other than that you're completely on
point.
dula dibiasi
> >
> >rakim
> >kane
> >g rap
> >ricky d
> >cool j
> >
> >krs
> >chuck d
> >cube
> >
> >
> >nas
> >pac
> >big
> >jay
> >
> >redman
> >eminem
> >pun
> >common
> >andre
> >ghost
> >
> >
>
> son, one question. Where's scarface? other than that you're completely on
> point.
> T.J. Xenos
> xen...@student.wit.edu
> "It's not some safe thing like Fugazi where everyone sits down and eats their
> tofu and goes 'wow man, that's revolutionary' " - Jerry A of Poison Idea
umm....he's right there? you don't see him? ;)
TJ Xenos
>umm....he's right there? you don't see him? ;)
nice one. even tho i know i checked the list 4 times before i posted, you still
got me to go back to the original to check again.
David Frank
> wow...
>
> i was just listening to this album again the other night, and it blows my mind
> how dope pharoah was. and how dope the production was. 1994 was the shit.
>
> sorry i don't have the time for any more detail right now, but no other mcs can
> do some of the shit pharoah has done
Really? I don't see it, but it's been years since I've listened to that Stress
album. Maybe I'll have to go back and pay more attention to what he' saying.
peace.