Nore's diss to Freddie Foxx....
GoldenChild
to express fury in words, so just try to picture him saying this verse
soundin' type AMPED.
..."Yeah, and I gotta speak on this private Freddie Foxx/ yeah, I don't
know about raps but I know about glocks/ I got a full clip that holds
like 21 shots/ put half in you and half in anybody who watched/ niggas
are plottin' on the hustler, conspirin' my death/ and I don't care about
your clique and your bullshit rep/ I could care less about your small
gats and your vest/ I spit hollow tip slugs that tear straight through
tef'/ travel from the vest to your chest through your flesh and out your
back disc/ I told ya'll in '97 I ain't on some rap shit/ I'm on some
real shit, what! and you can ask around/ I shot 5 niggas, yeah, and 3 of
'em is under the ground/ 2 of 'em lived but I never seen 'em after my
bid/
they never came back to Lefrak or to Queensbridge/ you know who did
that, and you know where I rest/ prison niggas know me all across the
U.S./ while you're only known a lil' bit where you rest/ and I can go to
your hood and get more respect/ MUFUCKA! MUFUCKA! waitin' for me to back
down, don't hold your breath/ you gonna need that for when I squeeze a
clip in your neck/ we Queens killers what! Noreaga, Muse, and Maze/ It
was 25 to life now we turnin' the page/ it's like we live by the day now
and never look back/ one of us gotta die, thats how I was raised in
Iraq/ so WHAT! WHAT! WHAT! WHAT! Lefrak mothafucka what what! Terror
Squad, Muse the Murderer, Maze, what, Final chapter, what, Scarlet
Fever, what what, Esco, Ak chainsaw Akineyle, what what, Outlaw, Troy
Outlaw, desert Men...Iraq to where you at, this the Grand Finale,
Whookid, Stretch, this is real..."
New Stretch Armstrong and DJ Whookid, in a ghetto corner store near you.
I'm all for Noreaga in this battle, because to me niether one of 'em got
skills so I'm disregarding that right there, I'm goin' for Nore' 'cause
Number one Freddie Foxx sparked the shit for no reason with Nore, number
2 Nore is from around my way, number 3, Nore is steppin' up not only his
skills but his poise and all that. Peace.
uhuru7
respect, homie , & thanx for transcribing all that shit... you
did good, i could feel your effort, and the heat was comin off
the screen....
but as far as the rhyme content ???
" y a a a w w w w w n n n n n n "
wake me up when that 'ol shit is over.....
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then put it to his own dome and squeeze. thats two less wack ass cats in the
world.
"North Philly baby, thats where that raw shit is"-Dice Raw
"The crowns still mine cause I got ill rhymes, alot of rappers talk that murder
shit, but couldnt kill time"-Big L
esh
AlanPage
often. ha.
Peace,
Spirit
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9 out of 10 porn stars/Born Again Christians don't appear anywhere near
http://www.theamphibians.com. This summer, new audio, same odd sense of humor.
TJ Xenos
>
>that's probably the best rapping i've seen nore do. he needs to get dissed
>more
>often. ha.
>
>Peace,
>
>Spirit
I was thinkin the same hting as i read this verse, i was like "wow, this is a
pretty hot verse considering it's comin from nore"
T.J. Xenos
xen...@student.wit.edu
"Then I thought deep about giving up the money
What I need to do is kick the bitch in the tummy"
"im about to save hiphop like ghost did the wu"
"you can't trust a big butt and a smile"
Da5Venoms
>>more
>>often. ha.
>>
>>Peace,
>>
>>Spirit
>
>I was thinkin the same hting as i read this verse, i was like "wow, this is a
>pretty hot verse considering it's comin from nore"
Now the question is . . . who wrote that? Sure as hell wasn't Nore . . .
Da 5th Venom
Lucas Lorenz
GoldenChild wrote:
> I'm all for Noreaga in this battle, because to me niether one of 'em got
> skills so I'm disregarding that right there, I'm goin' for Nore' 'cause
> Number one Freddie Foxx sparked the shit for no reason with Nore, number
> 2 Nore is from around my way, number 3, Nore is steppin' up not only his
> skills but his poise and all that. Peace.
freddie foxxx doesn't have skills? i disagree. and as for nore, i
think foxxx has a good point...i mean, enough wiht the "what what"
shit. it's cool to be unique and have your own signature saying, but
he's been beating it to death, so that it's become tiresome and boring.
so i guess freddie's reason to dis him is just because he thinks nore is
wack. it's good to see someone namiing names for once, rather than
constantly rapping about wack rappers in general.
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
> I was thinkin the same hting as i read this verse, i was like "wow, this is a
> pretty hot verse considering it's comin from nore"
The first time I read it, I thought it was kinda nice, but I read it again and
it's kinda blah. Nore is showing his lack of respect for hip-hop by replying
with some gun shit (to something non-violent), the only other cat I ever saw do
that was 2 Pac with "Hit Em Up" which in itself is a testament to supreme
wackness. Freddie's comeback should be ill though.
I'm Plexxxx baby, who's you?
Fatboy Roberts
Da5Venoms wrote:
> >I was thinkin the same hting as i read this verse, i was like "wow, this is a
> >pretty hot verse considering it's comin from nore"
>
> Now the question is . . . who wrote that? Sure as hell wasn't Nore .
Bingo. Ghostwriter. That's the EXACT same shit I was thinkin.
let's play guess who,
Fatboy
Jbardic
gonna kill him on some rhyme shit and on some gun shit.
- Justin Bardic -
Kayal
"Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)" <plexxx...@bmts.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was thinkin the same hting as i read this verse, i was like "wow,
this is a
> > pretty hot verse considering it's comin from nore"
>
again and
> it's kinda blah. Nore is showing his lack of respect for hip-hop by
replying
> with some gun shit (to something non-violent), the only other cat I
ever saw do
> that was 2 Pac with "Hit Em Up" which in itself is a testament to
supreme
> wackness.
Not like I'm defending any song which begins with "I fucked your wife",
but Tupac was replying to having his ball blown off, which (I imagine)
would make any man a little cranky.
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Before you buy.
Da5Venoms
>
>Bingo. Ghostwriter. That's the EXACT same shit I was thinkin.
>
>let's play guess who,
>Fatboy
>
I don't have the original post in front of me, but doesn't Nore shout out the
Terror Squad for some odd reason? Hmmm . . .
Da 5th Venom
Nesta
>From: "Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)" plexxx...@bmts.com
>The first time I read it, I thought it was kinda nice, but I read it again
>and
>it's kinda blah. Nore is showing his lack of respect for hip-hop by replying
>with some gun shit
um, isn't freddie foxx's entire steez easily summed up as "i'm doper than
you...and even if i'm not, i can still beat your ass and shoot you in the
face"?
...nesta...
Most of you can't even comprehend what I am saying to you
Even in my human form the message I'm relaying
One good thing about music
When it hits you feel no pain
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
Nesta wrote:
> >Subject: Re: Nore's diss to Freddie Foxx....
> >From: "Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)" plexxx...@bmts.com
>
> >The first time I read it, I thought it was kinda nice, but I read it again
> >and
> >it's kinda blah. Nore is showing his lack of respect for hip-hop by replying
> >with some gun shit
>
> um, isn't freddie foxx's entire steez easily summed up as "i'm doper than
> you...and even if i'm not, i can still beat your ass and shoot you in the
> face"?
How foolish of me to think that battling constituted clever rhymes, rather than
silly death threats.
I guess 2000 don't mean skills are a must.
If you're gonna kill somebody, kill them, don't talk about how you're gonna do it.
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
> Not like I'm defending any song which begins with "I fucked your wife",
> but Tupac was replying to having his ball blown off, which (I imagine)
> would make any man a little cranky.
Actually the song came out like a year and a half after he got shot, in
that span he released 2 albums, how come he ain't talk about it right after
it happened? Seems like something concocted by Suge Knight to create
controversy and further that East-West bullshit. The joke was on Pac
though, because the funniest thing about the whole song is that everybody
he mentions except Biggie are still alive, and he's six feet deep.
4ever
>you...and even if i'm not, i can still beat your ass and shoot you in the
>face"?
>
it does seem like people are forgetting that...
"same bullets in your burner since 76"
-bumpy knux, mr. nonviolence himself...
"i'm hella stern, but my face is calm" --del
Rob Berthold
nice, and to me that Nore diss sounds more like Freddie Foxx's work to me,
imagine if he was the ghost writer (lol)....
-slugfast
Lucas Lorenz
Rob Berthold wrote:
>
> Am I the only one who likes Freddie Foxx?
no, i also really like him. even though he raps mostly about thug shit
(nothing wrong with that, but it is getting pretty tired), he does it
with skill and makes it sound good. he has a good flow and a good
voice, and i think most of his rhymes are pretty damn good. and with
primo backing him up? how can you lose? the only track on his album
that i don't like is #2...reminds me of that song off of bobby digital:
i keep waiting for the beat to kick in...they both sound like an
intro...
GoldenChild
Deep, the way he flows and shit, but he's not nearly as good. I just
think Freddie Foxx is dissin' niggas 'cause he's broke and he's tryin'
to blow up, nothin' more nothin' less, a desperate attempt to get rich.
It's also weak how he disses niggas that he knows ain't got no skills,
I'm sure he's got a problem with a guy like Jay-Z, 'cause everyone hates
him, but he'd never diss him 'cause he knows Jay would burn his big
black ass. Sorry, but Freddir Foxx's rhymes are just weak, he says cheap
ass little nursery school rhymes. I kinda think alot of ya'll like him
just 'cause of the crew he's down with, plus 'cause he's underground,
'cause he's the epitome of every rapper that ya'll hate, except he's
weaker. Like, ya'll hate Mobb Deep, ya'll hate guys like Black Rob and
the Lox and shit, and he's no different than them except his songs have
LESS substance and his rhymes are trash. Is it just 'cause he yells and
shit? I don't know...he's garbage to me. Just a old broke ass rapper
with high blood pressure. As far as thug rappers, the best their is is
Kool G. Rap, "Laid up in your rover with the sheet draped over/ blood
stains on the concrete with the street taped over/ comin' out of a deep
coma with your speech made slower". P is close behind. Foxx is down
there at the bottom with Nore' and Bleek. One.
TJ Xenos
>Freddie Foxx can't rhyme...I think he tries to be like Prodigy from Mobb
>Deep, the way he flows and shit, but he's not nearly as good.
No offense Sensay, but this is some wack shit right here, Foxxx has been
rapping pretty much the same way since he came out in like 89 or 92 or
whenever.
> I just
>think Freddie Foxx is dissin' niggas 'cause he's broke and he's tryin'
>to blow up, nothin' more nothin' less, a desperate attempt to get rich.
I dont think the dude is really that hurtin for cash, he's been flossin since
he came up with bdp and then Flava Unit in the early 90s..
>It's also weak how he disses niggas that he knows ain't got no skills,
Well, you look pretty dumb if you sit there and tell jigga he can't rhyme,
don't you? If you're gonna diss dudes over their skills, you might as well
diss someone who sucks...
>I'm sure he's got a problem with a guy like Jay-Z, 'cause everyone hates
>him, but he'd never diss him 'cause he knows Jay would burn his big
>black ass.
No doubt jigga would burn him. Jigga would burn most dudes out there now if he
wanted to. What would be the point of Foxxx dissing him? That would be some
bitch shit to just get a rep if he were to do that since he has nothing
legitimate to diss jigga for
> Sorry, but Freddir Foxx's rhymes are just weak, he says cheap
>ass little nursery school rhymes. I kinda think alot of ya'll like him
>just 'cause of the crew he's down with, plus 'cause he's underground,
Nah, i like him coz he comes mad hyped up, and his rhymes are pretty dope. The
storytelling skill aint up there with Kool G or P or whoever, but he's pretty
dope on some basic braggadocio, "ill shoot you if you ever try to outrhyme me"
type shit
>'cause he's the epitome of every rapper that ya'll hate, except he's
>weaker. Like, ya'll hate Mobb Deep, ya'll hate guys like Black Rob and
>the Lox and shit,
Whoa hold up there dunn, i love me some mobb deep, and I've felt what ive heard
from black rob. I aint really feelin the lox tho, but freddy is more on a
combination between like mobb deep and more battleish/punchline type shit than
some straight up thug shit, coz he comes with the wittiness like "im about to
save hiphop like ghost did the wu" etc
> and he's no different than them except his songs have
>LESS substance and his rhymes are trash. Is it just 'cause he yells and
>shit? I don't know...he's garbage to me. Just a old broke ass rapper
>with high blood pressure. As far as thug rappers, the best their is is
>Kool G. Rap, "Laid up in your rover with the sheet draped over/ blood
>stains on the concrete with the street taped over/ comin' out of a deep
>coma with your speech made slower". P is close behind. Foxx is down
>there at the bottom with Nore' and Bleek. One.
>
>
Kool G is definitely dope, as is P. The reason i dont think foxxx compares is
i dont thihnk he's really trying to be like that, IMO hes more on some willie
d, mop type shit.
TJ Xenos
>I don't have the original post in front of me, but doesn't Nore shout out the
>Terror Squad for some odd reason? Hmmm . . .
>
> Da 5th Venom
I wouldn't say its that odd, since him and pun were pretty tight before Pun's
passing...
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
GoldenChild wrote:
> Freddie Foxx can't rhyme...I think he tries to be like Prodigy from Mobb
> Deep, the way he flows and shit, but he's not nearly as good.
Nah I can't agree there, his flow and style hasn't changed since the first
time I heard him, which was before Poetical Prophets were even in featured
in Unsigned Hype. His shit is the same as it's always been.
> I just
> think Freddie Foxx is dissin' niggas 'cause he's broke and he's tryin'
> to blow up, nothin' more nothin' less, a desperate attempt to get rich.
I don't know how broke or how rich dude is, he doesn't talk about how much
loot he has, but that don't mean nothin, half the cats out there that brag
about that shit are still riding the bus.
>
> It's also weak how he disses niggas that he knows ain't got no skills,
But why would you diss someone who has skills if there's nothing personal,
maybe he just doesn't like how Noreaga gets props for shit that's wack. I
know I don't have a problem with people making money off music, I do have a
problem with cats making money off bad music. Maybe he has the same
problem.
>
> I'm sure he's got a problem with a guy like Jay-Z, 'cause everyone hates
> him, but he'd never diss him 'cause he knows Jay would burn his big
> black ass.
I doubt he's got a problem with Jay-Z, he probably has love for him because
talentwise he's in like the 99% percentile. I mean if you got a problem with
wack emcees in general, if you're gonna name names, then you're gonna dis
cats that are wack. People always complain that artists always mention
"wack emcees" in they rhymes but never name names. Now when somebody does,
everybody claims he's hating. Artists can't win.
> Sorry, but Freddir Foxx's rhymes are just weak, he says cheap
> ass little nursery school rhymes. I kinda think alot of ya'll like him
> just 'cause of the crew he's down with, plus 'cause he's underground,
He's not really underground, he's not mainstream, more like middle ground.
I dig him cause the cat has an ill voice, ill flow and most of the tracks he
has are some straight, amped up, head nod shit. I never thought lyrically
he was on some real clever shit.
>
> 'cause he's the epitome of every rapper that ya'll hate, except he's
> weaker. Like, ya'll hate Mobb Deep,
Mobb Deep is dope, I've never said a bad word about them.
> As far as thug rappers, the best their is is
> Kool G. Rap, "Laid up in your rover with the sheet draped over/ blood
> stains on the concrete with the street taped over/ comin' out of a deep
> coma with your speech made slower". P is close behind.
What's nice about G. Rap is that he's a "thug" rapper with skills, I mean he
has shown that he can drop dope music and not have to talk about money or
killing cats. He's more versatile than people give him credit for.
Kaz
think it is won't even go wood let alone gold. Foxxx could've sold out
years ago if his main concern was paper. I think he had some shit that
he wanted to get off his chest so he dropped "Industry Shakedown". This
album has little or no commercial appeal at all. Foxxx can't be that
broke if he has his own label. And to get production from Primo,
Alchemist, & Pete Rock had to cost him an arm & a leg. I wouldn't be
surprized if Bumpy Knuckles get offers from other emcees to produce a
joint on their album cuz he showed that he has skills behind the boards
on this album. I use to respect Nore's skills but the kid has fallen off
hard, Foxxx would murder him lyrically or physically.
-Kaz
rockt...@my-deja.com
Kaz_...@webtv.net (Kaz) wrote:
> Freddie Foxxx's motive definitely wasn't paper. This album, as dope
as I
> think it is won't even go wood let alone gold. Foxxx could've sold out
> years ago if his main concern was paper. I think he had some shit that
> he wanted to get off his chest so he dropped "Industry Shakedown".
If he could've sold out, then why didn't he? The impression I've
gotten from his album is that he's pissed off at being turned down by
big label A&Rs and execs. If he wasn't trying to blow up, then I doubt
he would have gotten the opportunity for Lyor Cohen of Def Jam to call
him a Kool Moe Dee soundalike... he had some shit to get off his chest
alright, he was angry that the industry didn't like his music. But
hey, shit happens.
T. Tauri
>
> In article <13303-39...@storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net>,
> Kaz_...@webtv.net (Kaz) wrote:
> > Freddie Foxxx's motive definitely wasn't paper. This album, as dope
> > as I think it is won't even go wood let alone gold. Foxxx could've
> > sold out years ago if his main concern was paper. I think he had
> > some shit that he wanted to get off his chest so he dropped
> > "Industry Shakedown".
>
> If he could've sold out, then why didn't he? The impression I've
> gotten from his album is that he's pissed off at being turned down by
> big label A&Rs and execs. If he wasn't trying to blow up, then I
> doubt he would have gotten the opportunity for Lyor Cohen of Def Jam
> to call him a Kool Moe Dee soundalike...
A rapper with mixed messages? That's gotta be a first. :-)
Peece,
T. Tauri
Da5Venoms
>passing...
True enough, but it's still kinda strange. It also makes Nore look bad.
Terror Squad ain't his crew. He may have chilled with them a bit, but so what.
Shouting them out on that song like that makes it sound like they've taken his
side, and for some reason, I don't think too many heads would be anxious to get
in the middle of this kind of situation. Plus Pun did do a song with MOP, and
we all know who they roll with. Anyway, I can't see Terror Squad jumping on
Nore's side from the get-go over some bullshit beef like this. As far as the
ghost-writing thing goes, I can see it. Armageddon, Triple Seis, and those
other Squad cats have some pretty good thug lyrics. They just have weak voices
and no personality. I can see them trying to make a few bucks on the side here
TJ Xenos
>>I wouldn't say its that odd, since him and pun were pretty tight before
>Pun's
>>passing...
>
>True enough, but it's still kinda strange. It also makes Nore look bad.
>Terror Squad ain't his crew. He may have chilled with them a bit, but so
>what.
Well, i think the shoutout was prolly more along the lines of a "peace to my
dead brotha's crew, Im missing him so i know you guys must be pretty down" or
whatever.
> Shouting them out on that song like that makes it sound like they've taken
>his
>side, and for some reason, I don't think too many heads would be anxious to
>get
>in the middle of this kind of situation.
This is true.
>Plus Pun did do a song with MOP,
>and
>we all know who they roll with.
Well, I dont know how tight Foxxx and MOP are, or if MOP/Pun collabing was
anything more than a business deal...
> Anyway, I can't see Terror Squad jumping on
>Nore's side from the get-go over some bullshit beef like this.
I donno, Joe's sposedly pretty quick to jump into shit, I heard he wanted to
get a bunch of NY cats and go after kurupt after "callin out names" which was
probably the most carefully written diss song ever, taking care to let everyone
except liek 3 cats know he was cool with them.
>As far as the
>ghost-writing thing goes, I can see it. Armageddon, Triple Seis, and those
>other Squad cats have some pretty good thug lyrics. They just have weak
>voices
>and no personality. I can see them trying to make a few bucks on the side
>here
>. . .
True that, Seis and Armageddon are pretty good, joe is pretty good. Cuban
sucks tho straight up pretty much. Prospect is kinda ehe (i may have fucked
things up, cuban and Joe are the only ones i know for sure which one they are
:X )
>
> Da 5th Venom
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
"www.theamphibians.com" wrote:
> >If you're gonna kill somebody, kill them, don't talk about how you're gonna
> >do it.
>
> actually, i'd rather someone talk about it than actually kill a human being, if
> there was a choice in the matter.
>
> surely you couldn't have been serious with what you said above...
What I'm saying is, mad cats are talking like Noreaga is gonna go out and kill
Foxxx over some bullshit like that, obviously he ain't gonna do it, cause if he
was, he wouldn't come back with a response that sounded like death threats. He
wouldn't respond at all and put himself in a position to be a prime suspect.
Steve 'Flash' Juon
> he had some shit to get off his chest
> alright, he was angry that the industry didn't like his music. But
> hey, shit happens.
Apparently, shit happens at 11.99 a pop from Hastings to Best Buy to
Wherehouse. The industry hates him but you can buy his CD at every
industry record store from here to Omaha below the "list" price.
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> What's nice about G. Rap is that he's a "thug" rapper with skills, I mean he
> has shown that he can drop dope music and not have to talk about money or
> killing cats. He's more versatile than people give him credit for.
I always knew Plexxxx Diggy had good taste. :)
Remember people, the "G" stands for "Genius".
www.theamphibians.com
>>Nore's side from the get-go over some bullshit beef like this.
>
>I donno, Joe's sposedly pretty quick to jump into shit, I heard he wanted to
>get a bunch of NY cats and go after kurupt after "callin out names"
near as i can tell, joe is quicker to jump into cross-coast beef than crosstown
beef. the only NY rapper that i know he had problems with was master ace.
Peace,
Spirit
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>that span he released 2 albums, how come he ain't talk about it right after
>it happened?
the "me against the world" album was basically wrapped before pac went to jail
(he was shot the day before he was convicted, if memory serves).
www.theamphibians.com
>do it.
actually, i'd rather someone talk about it than actually kill a human being, if
there was a choice in the matter.
surely you couldn't have been serious with what you said above...
Peace,
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
> I always knew Plexxxx Diggy had good taste. :)
> Remember people, the "G" stands for "Genius".
Kool Genius of Rap baby, how ill is that lisp?
Proud G. Rap fan since '88
Rocketman3003
>near as i can tell, joe is quicker to jump into cross-coast beef than
>crosstown
>beef. the only NY rapper that i know he had problems with was master ace.
Didn't Joe and Pun start some beef with Jay Z or something? I thought I read it
on hiphopsite mad long ago.......
and like other people said why would Nore shout out Terror Squad? Cause Fat Joe
and Big Pun are down with the whole DITC, Primo, Gangstarr, BPD, NYC true
school circle that Freddie Foxx is down with so I don't get it.
Jbardic
>just 'cause of the crew he's down with, plus 'cause he's underground,
>LESS substance and his rhymes are trash. Is it just 'cause he yells and
>shit?
For me it doesn't HURT for him to have the crew he has, but not because of
groupieness for GangStarr and M.O.P. and others, but because I know that those
crews, who I respect, respect Freddie Foxxx. To see how hard DJ Premier worked
to revive Freddie's career does elavate his status to me...but that's not
really why I like him.
I like him cause he beat up the head of the label he was formerly on, because
he was dissatisfied with his contract. I like him because he gives me the
impression that he truly will kick your ass if you talk about him, and speaks
his mind freely, because he has more respect than any living rapper out there,
and the muscle and guns to back it up. I like that he's a microphone
vet--somebody who's stayed alive in Hip-Hop despite a contract or record for
many years, because that's what an MC is. I like the way he references insider
Hip-Hop events from an outsider's perspective and isn't afraid to criticize the
industry. Also, he combines witty lines w/ a powerful voice, and although he
does have a few clunkers (outdated punchlines like his "let me get digable for
a minute" routine), I think for the most part he is bringing back more of the
old school, and showing that being a good MC with street-level respect is much
more important than having a gold record and radio play from this fake-ass
record industry.
.>I just
>think Freddie Foxx is dissin' niggas 'cause he's broke and he's tryin'
>to blow up, nothin' more nothin' less, a desperate attempt to get rich.
>It's also weak how he disses niggas that he knows ain't got no skills,
>I'm sure he's got a problem with a guy like Jay-Z, 'cause everyone hates
>him, but he'd never diss him 'cause he knows Jay would burn his big
>black ass.
I believe that if Freddie Foxxx had any problems with Jay-Z, he would be
unafraid to call him out despite Jigga's skills, but it is because Jay-Z is so
skilled in rhyming that Freddie has no problem with him. I mean, Freddie Foxxx
DID call out Ultramagnetic MC's (on "Crazy like a Foxxx" back in the Flavor
Unit days), so I don't think he's afraid of good lyricists. Not to mention,
Freddie specifically called out Memphis Bleek, who is Jay-Z's protege. I don't
know, but where I come from that's beef with not only Memphis Bleek, but also
with Jigga.
As far as ev'rything else, Kool G. Rap IS the king, Black Rob IS sweet as fuck,
and Prodigy is dope. But even Kool G. Rap knows that Freddie Foxxx is the
shit, since they shared mic time on the Large Professor's masterpiece "Money in
the Bank" back in 1990. And I don't doubt that Black Rob and Prodigy know too,
it's just you who hasn't got it yet.
- Justin Bardic -
Rocketman3003
>broke if he has his own label. And to get production from Primo,
>Alchemist, & Pete Rock had to cost him an arm & a leg.
>
Well I wouldn't doubt that Pete Rock, Primo, and Alchemist(who's like a semi
protege of Primo) did the tracks for him at a discount.
Cause I read an interview with Primo one time where he mentioned that for like
M.O.P. he paid for the studio time and stuff, I would assume the same applies
to r other close affiliates like Foundation, DITC, and Freddie Foxx.
Primo makes his real money by producing and charging high fees for people like
Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, and Limp Bizkit.
mike c
Rocketman3003 <rocket...@aol.com> wrote:
> Didn't Joe and Pun start some beef with Jay Z or something? I thought I read
> it
> on hiphopsite mad long ago.......
i seem to remember fat joe calling out jay-z as being the gay rapper,
just because you don't see jay-z surrounded by honeys like big pun in
"not a player" video. as far as noreaga trying to tie himself to the
terrorsquad, it's kind of funny that he's got to go to the bronx to get
a crew with a "name." the only kids around his way are no names, since
he's severed ways with tragedy.
-mike c.
GoldenChild
the hardest dude in rap history. How has he shown himself to be any
harder than Puff Daddy who everyone considers to be the softest cat
their is. They both beat up record execs, big deal. I'm sure every
rapper out right now can beat the shit outta his little rich boy record
exec. And I really don't know what ya'll see in him lyrically, I hear
people mentioning his so-called witty punchlines and they look basic as
fuck to me. Sorry, but that Ghostface savin' the WU shit wasn't sick
like ya'll are makin' it out to be, not to me anyway. I like that crew,
I always been a Gangstarr fan, I like M.O.P., but Freddie Foxx was
always weak to me, even in the early Nineties when I first heard him, I
was like "Yo, this kid is tryin' to be Tim Dogg". As far as Nore, he
DEFINITELY wrote that, you can tell from the type of shit he said and
the way he spit it. Those terror Squad cats are on some super-syllable
"Spit the teck/ hit your set/ my clip's like sex/ It'll lick you wet/
from dick to neck", now if I heard Nore say some shit like that I'd know
he didn't write it. But it's not like thats even the best shit he ever
wrote, I don't know if ya'll remember the CNN album, but he had a couple
nice verses on there, and even a couple on the N.O.R.E. album. I don't
know, like I said, both of them niggas are wack to me, I just think to
tell you the truth, that alot of niggas are on Bumpy Knux dick, 'cause
anything he says, weak or not, is worshipped, 'sorta like KRS, another
washed up MC. One L.
GoldenChild
the rap industry? rap fans? Who gives a fuck when it comes to beef if
someone is known in the Hip-Hop community, shit, it's better than
they're NOT known by everyone in the rap World, as long as they're known
on the streets than that doesn't mean shit. What do you think? The only
niggas in NYC that are hard are rappers? Noreaga is someone who has had
a street rep WAY before he was a rapper. I knew who Noreaga was before
his rap career, and I'm not from Lefrak PJ's, I was raised in Astoria
PJ's. He's been in and out of prison his whole life, and he's had
serious beef his whole life and survived it, so it's not like he's some
no-name cat with a no-name crew, matter of fact, I think he's a Latin
King, which is hardly a no-name crew. I don't care though...I just want
a good battle. peace.
mike c
GoldenChild <Legonda...@webtv.net> wrote:
> You said, "The only kids around his way are no names". No-names to who?
> the rap industry? rap fans?
Exactly. I'm talking about this beef being a strictly rap battle, and
the kids Noreaga brings up aren't all that skilled. If this was a
street battle, you think he'd be talking about the Terrorsquad? Like
Fat Joe is going to bring some guns? I don't know who Noreaga runs
with and what Latin King members have his back, that's not what this is
about, I hope for the health of both NORE and Freddie, anyway. My
original point is that Noreaga had to tie himself in with the
Terrorsquad in the Bronx, and NOT any major rap names around his way.
No shit Noreaga has a street rep and spent time in prison, he's been
rapping about that for three albums now. As far as I'm concerned, if
the two keep it on vinyl, I agree that it'll stay a good battle.
peace-mike c.
Nesta
>From: "Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)" plexxx...@bmts.com
>Nesta wrote:
>
>> >Subject: Re: Nore's diss to Freddie Foxx....
>> >From: "Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)" plexxx...@bmts.com
>> Nore is showing his lack of respect for hip-hop by
>replying
>> >with some gun shit
>>
>> um, isn't freddie foxx's entire steez easily summed up as "i'm doper than
>> you...and even if i'm not, i can still beat your ass and shoot you in
>the
>> face"?
>
>How foolish of me to think that battling constituted clever rhymes, rather
>than
>silly death threats.
>
>I guess 2000 don't mean skills are a must.
aren't you agreeing with me?
you said you couldn't wait to see how freddie fox would come back on this
noreaga shit, and i pointed out that freddie's battle rhyme steez involves a
few death threats too.
...nesta...
Most of you can't even comprehend what I am saying to you
Even in my human form the message I'm relaying
One good thing about music
When it hits you feel no pain
Big Blue
>the kids Noreaga brings up aren't all that skilled. If this was a
>street battle, you think he'd be talking about the Terrorsquad? Like
>Fat Joe is going to bring some guns?
Just like Noreaga, Fat Joe and the whole Terror Squad got an ill street rep in
the bronx. So if it was a street battle, then he should get T-Squad.
Its apparent that Mike C has no idea what the fuck he is talkin about
"The more weight I gain, the more b*tches I get"
Sauce Money
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
> aren't you agreeing with me?
>
> you said you couldn't wait to see how freddie fox would come back on this
> noreaga shit, and i pointed out that freddie's battle rhyme steez involves a
> few death threats too.
Ahhhhh I didn't get that out of your post, as far as Freddie's comeback, it
probably will be along those same lines, which is a shame actually because I
think he has the skills to actually go beyond that.
What I was really saying though is battling should be about dissing somebody,
not talking about killing them in anything but a metaphorical sense.
mike c
<bluem...@aol.com> wrote:
> >eing a strictly rap battle, and
> >the kids Noreaga brings up aren't all that skilled. If this was a
> >street battle, you think he'd be talking about the Terrorsquad? Like
> >Fat Joe is going to bring some guns?
>
> Just like Noreaga, Fat Joe and the whole Terror Squad got an ill street rep in
> the bronx. So if it was a street battle, then he should get T-Squad.
> Its apparent that Mike C has no idea what the fuck he is talkin about
I know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. I'm talking about a
RAP BATTLE. You sound like a WWF fan waiting for the clash of the rap
titans on the street. I'm saying it doesn't work that way. Until
Vince McMahon takes over Def Jam records, let's hope to God the rap
game stays out of that industry. Fat Joe and Friends are NOT going to
risk their freedom if Noreaga's going to run his mouth off (or vice
versa). If you want to see this come down like some Warriors bullshit,
then hip-hop has got a problem. You're confusing RAP skills with
STREET skills. I never said that Noreaga didn't have street skills,
just like I never said that TS didn't have street skills. And I'll say
it ONE more time: Noreaga has to go to the Bronx to find a worthy RAP
CREW (NOT A STREET FIGHTING CLIQUE), since the RAP KIDS he runs with
aren't all that SKILLED IN RAP (NOT IN STREET FIGHTING).
peace-mike c.
4ever
>PJ's.
i used to live off shore blvd...
>. I don't care though...I just want
>a good battle
basically...
"i'm hella stern, but my face is calm" --del
4ever
average at best... thought i was the only one...
> but he'd never diss him 'cause he knows Jay would burn his big
>black ass.
lol...
BUGGZY650
>> would make any man a little cranky.
>
>Actually the song came out like a year and a half after he got shot, in
>that span he released 2 albums, how come he ain't talk about it right after
After he got shot, didn't he go to jail? Me Against the World was released
while he was doing time, but it had been completed before he went to jail. Then
All Eyez On Me dropped, and Hit 'Em Up was actually a b-side to one of those
singles (How Do U Want It?). So as soon as he had the opportunity, he *did*
record the track.
The joke was on Pac
>though, because the funniest thing about the whole song is that everybody
>he mentions except Biggie are still alive, and he's six feet deep.
>
Word. I remember a few weeks back when Big L's last album dropped, someone was
saying that a lot of his subject matter was similar to Jay-Z's. Some fool
replied by saying 'Fuck Jay-Z, he's a pussy, he ain't as *real* as Big L, he
left the PJ's, blah blah blah', and all that might be true, but who's living
right now? (And living large, at that).
Buggzy
"I'm always telling these many pals of mine
The most that you can spend on any child is time"--Chali Tuna
Plexxxx (Half Man, Half Twizzler)
> After he got shot, didn't he go to jail? Me Against the World was released
> while he was doing time, but it had been completed before he went to jail. Then
> All Eyez On Me dropped, and Hit 'Em Up was actually a b-side to one of those
> singles (How Do U Want It?). So as soon as he had the opportunity, he *did*
> record the track.
>
Well whatever...I recall having some respect for Pac after Me Against The World
because it was like he had stopped the foolish "thug life" shit. Then All Eyez On
Me dropped and it was like he was back at the bullshit he was doing before.
>
> The joke was on Pac
> >though, because the funniest thing about the whole song is that everybody
> >he mentions except Biggie are still alive, and he's six feet deep.
> >
>
> Word. I remember a few weeks back when Big L's last album dropped, someone was
> saying that a lot of his subject matter was similar to Jay-Z's. Some fool
> replied by saying 'Fuck Jay-Z, he's a pussy, he ain't as *real* as Big L, he
> left the PJ's, blah blah blah', and all that might be true, but who's living
> right now? (And living large, at that).
That argument is mad silly, they both got street roots, I'm sure they both did
their share of illegal business, how the fuck can one be realer than the other?
Besides...Big L didn't get killed over some shit he did, he got killed over some
shit his brother did.