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---Pimp---

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May 19, 2004, 9:53:52 AM5/19/04
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that unashamedly likes commercially orientated, high gloss ignorant thug rap
such as G Unit, The Lox, Mobb Deep and State Property as well as straight up
party shit, R&B (including very commercial songs from people like Christina
Milian who in fact would get it), Soul, broken beat, funky house, Old Skool,
True Skool, West Coast, East Coast, Dirty South, reggae, bashment, ragga,
dancehall, *some* garage, grime...

Basically, am I the only one on here who likes, appreciates and plays the
entire broad spectrum of modern black music? I blatantly know I'm not, but
I'd like other like minded souls to make themselves known.

---Pimp---


Danger3210 LIVES

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May 19, 2004, 10:26:50 AM5/19/04
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"---Pimp---" tedebar...@hotmail.com wrote:

I agree... Not so much with the pop/R&B type stuff (even tho I do like that new
Christina Milian song)... I mean I'll like songs here and there but on a whole
I dont like the new stuff I've been hearing for the past 5 years or so...

But yes, the mainstream rap is fine with me... I'm really not into the whole
"down-souf" thing that's blowing up right now... Again, I like songs here and
there but I would never listen to a full Ying Yang Twins album...

The rap I love the most is east coast... Nas, Jigga, the ROC, LOX, Wu, Mobb
Deep, DMX, G-Unit (even tho 50 Cent has kinda fallen off IMO), etc.

But in the end you like what you like...

WHEN DANGER STRIKES!!!

Simon Burrows

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May 19, 2004, 10:45:49 AM5/19/04
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"---Pimp---" <tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm with you. I'm constantly having this argument with some people from an
Bristol indy rock forum (my brother runs the club night it's associated
with). As long as music makes you smile, cry, laugh, dance or whatever it
intended to make you do, it's good. Doesn't matter whether it's pop,
underground, thugged out, backpacker, conscious, rock, hiphop, ragga.
dancehall, two-step, blah blah blah.

People that dismiss music on the grounds of it being on MTV and in the Top
40 often miss some great tunes, it's a shame. True, a lot of pop music is
totally dire, but then a great deal of the underground is too.

On my way into work I had my car playlist on random... Mobb Deep - Got It
Twisted followed by Skillz - Imagine.... safety nice.


R. Stewart

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May 19, 2004, 10:16:02 AM5/19/04
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Cosign... except I haven't been exposed to nearly as much stuff from the
grime genre (AFAIK, I've only heard Boy In Da Corner, and some CD that an
old college friend who's now at Oxford sent me)...

substitute Baltimore Club or Go-go, and I'm with you on that "entire
broad spectrum" thing...

and of course, feel free to direct me to some more examples of grime
(artists/compilations/whatever...)

-raj


ps: damn Vestax mixer... damn Vestax mixer... give me back my old battle
mixer, or my Pioneer with the bells and whistles... I'm not sold on that
PMX... I've gotten lazy, and I damn well like my built in effects...

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bse

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May 19, 2004, 12:57:31 PM5/19/04
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In article <2h16psF...@uni-berlin.de>,
"---Pimp---" <tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Basically, am I the only one on here who likes, appreciates and plays the
> entire broad spectrum of modern black music? I blatantly know I'm not, but
> I'd like other like minded souls to make themselves known.

**HAND UP**

and I'm getting better too. Stripping off all that pretentious/elitist
shit is a constant process.
I'm fukcing loving that "Hey Micky" garage track. Fukcing kills me.
Rapping is boss on it aswell. Dissapointed by teh Wiley LP, not grimey
enough.
I tend to be about 6 months out of date on bashy dancehall stuff but
it's still on a high from the dance crazes if you ask me, so much good
stuff, its like early 90s again. RnB is as good as its been in my
lifetime as far as I'm concerned and damnit if the pop stuff isn't
better than all the neo-soul shit.
I could do with some more dub knowledge.
The only thing you fall down on is not liking Doom. punk.

bse

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Lana

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May 19, 2004, 1:04:10 PM5/19/04
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Of course not.
I'm a big fan of the Jamaican dancehall, in fact I love real reggae too
much.

I'm even more commercial than you, I totally feel G Unit.
Dirty South rules, I'm probably the only one here who appreciates Lil' Jon,
EastSide Boyz, Lost Boyz.....

Christina Millian not tho, it's 2 "pop". And, she wouldn't get it, she
doesn't have titties and an ass. But the guy who's carrying her in her last
video would. My type.

"---Pimp---" <tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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noixe!

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May 19, 2004, 1:36:40 PM5/19/04
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On 5/19/04 8:53 AM, in article 2h16psF...@uni-berlin.de, "---Pimp---"
<tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote:

hi I'm noixe. I don't like R&B and I don't really have time to get into
reggae, ragga, garage and dancehall, but I'm not very picky otherwise.

black people make better music. I'm sorry, it's just true.

TJ Xenos

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May 19, 2004, 1:36:25 PM5/19/04
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>
>that unashamedly likes commercially orientated, high gloss ignorant thug rap
>such as G Unit, The Lox, Mobb Deep and State Property

i do. I donno bout the rest tho. I dont do soft shit...
T.J. Xenos
"great music is better than average sex" - Merle Haggard
"When I got the music, I got a place to go" - Rancid
"Im in love with rock & roll" - Motorhead

A to the L

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May 19, 2004, 2:01:58 PM5/19/04
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take out the lox, and the garage and I'll join your team...

PEACH

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A to the L

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May 19, 2004, 2:02:27 PM5/19/04
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 10:16:02 -0400, "R. Stewart"
<rste...@brandeis.edu> wrote:


>ps: damn Vestax mixer... damn Vestax mixer... give me back my old battle
>mixer, or my Pioneer with the bells and whistles... I'm not sold on that
>PMX... I've gotten lazy, and I damn well like my built in effects...

you too?

runrunshaw

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May 20, 2004, 2:38:27 AM5/20/04
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"---Pimp---" <tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2h16psF...@uni-berlin.de>...
> that unashamedly likes commercially orientated, high gloss ignorant thug rap
> such as G Unit, The Lox, Mobb Deep and State Property

i hate that shit! mostly because of the adult content it jams down the
throats of our youth. these fucking asshole need to take a lot more
responsibility as far as what songs hit the air waves. so what if one
word is bleeped out, kids are still getting the message.

as well as straight up
> party shit, R&B (including very commercial songs from people like Christina
> Milian who in fact would get it),


same shit!

Soul, broken beat, funky house, Old Skool,
> True Skool, West Coast, East Coast, Dirty South, reggae, bashment, ragga,
> dancehall, *some* garage, grime...


i dig the shit out of dancehall.

i'm pretty much strait up underground, no matter where it's from.

---Pimp---

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May 20, 2004, 2:23:44 AM5/20/04
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"Chris Zabel" <alep...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> Please don't trash Mobb Deep by lumping them in with such crap as State
> Property, the Lox, or G-Unit.

I guess you're not one of the people I was talking about...

Mobb Deep were the precursor to G Unit, The Lox and State Property and have
progressed into doing the same kind of music as them.

If you don't agree, listen to the last 2 albums again...

---Pimp---


Brian 4 Ever

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May 20, 2004, 3:27:02 AM5/20/04
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I like ALOT of music and I try to play a wide spectrum at the club when
I can. I do East Coast, Dirty South, Dancehall, West Coast, Booty,
Underground, Old School Hip Hop, Old School Dance, Funk, RnB. When im
just chillin at home, ill even drop in some classic disco, techno and
light 60's, 70's rock...(dont hate!)....My fav music tho has to be
Dancehall, Dirty South(where I live), and NYC(born in Queens) stuff like
Mobb Deep, Lost Boyz, Wu Tang, Boot Camp...ect. I might have to contend
with Lana tho cuz I do appreciate Lil Jon. I was listening to Lil Jon
before he became nationally known. And as far as Dancehall goes,
everyone knows im the resident Reggae/Dancehall expert..lol

Subliminal

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May 20, 2004, 10:21:42 AM5/20/04
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I listen too songs I like, I try not to spend much time putting them into
catagories.
Subliminal

Kuahmel Allah

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May 20, 2004, 12:16:22 PM5/20/04
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As long as it's dope, that's me....

Even the nerd ish.
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Kuahmel Allah

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May 20, 2004, 1:19:41 PM5/20/04
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>>>i hate that shit! mostly because of the adult content it jams down the
throats of our youth. these fucking asshole need to take a lot more
responsibility as far as what songs hit the air waves. so what if one
word is bleeped out, kids are still getting the message.
<<<

I'm not down with it either.....but these folks are now the heroes of the
general public, so there's not much we can do about it....

suntzu

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May 20, 2004, 10:26:17 PM5/20/04
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suntzu wrote:

> runrunshaw wrote:
>
>> "---Pimp---" <tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:<2h16psF...@uni-berlin.de>...
>>
>>> that unashamedly likes commercially orientated, high gloss ignorant
>>> thug rap
>>> such as G Unit, The Lox, Mobb Deep and State Property
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> i hate that shit! mostly because of the adult content it jams down the
>> throats of our youth. these fucking asshole need to take a lot more
>> responsibility as far as what songs hit the air waves. so what if one
>> word is bleeped out, kids are still getting the message.
>>
>
> i'd say parents need to take responsibility for raising their kids to
> not be so impressionable that the latest g-unit single turns them into a
> killer.
>
> i've consumed ridiculous amounts of violent, disturbing, and sexually
> explicit media (from music, to movies, to tv), and i'm not at all a
> violent person.

which isn't to say i'm a pacifist... but i'm not going around picking
fights or anything.


>
> not trying to start a flame war, but if the kid's raised correctly, this
> won't be a problem.

---Pimp---

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May 21, 2004, 6:35:14 AM5/21/04
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"runrunshaw" <and...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message

> i hate that shit! mostly because of the adult content it jams down the
> throats of our youth. these fucking asshole need to take a lot more
> responsibility as far as what songs hit the air waves. so what if one
> word is bleeped out, kids are still getting the message.

But you're tallking to a kid that was listening to NWA tapes at 8 or 9 and
It never really did me any harm. I didn't go round telling hoes at primary
school to swallow it but don't bite! I didn't pull out an AK and spray!

You can't blame artists for putting adult content in their music if they
aren't making the music for 14 year olds. I'd argue that Britney Spears
makes music for 14 year olds that is marketed to 14 year olds. 50 Cent makes
music for adults that is marketed to adults AND children listen to it
because it's cool. It's up to the parent to make sure that the kid know the
difference between right and wrong and to make sure they know, as my mum
did, that if artist X says it, it doesn't mean that I can.

---Pimp---


T. Tauri

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May 21, 2004, 8:08:57 AM5/21/04
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---Pimp--- wrote:
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> 50 Cent makes music for adults that is marketed to adults

Huh? What?

Peece,
T. Tauri


A to the L

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May 21, 2004, 11:00:02 AM5/21/04
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On Fri, 21 May 2004 08:08:57 -0400, "T. Tauri" <ea...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>---Pimp--- wrote:
>>
>> 50 Cent makes music for retarded adults that is marketed to idiots


*fixed*

Muggsly17

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May 21, 2004, 1:04:24 PM5/21/04
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> Basically, am I the only one on here who likes, appreciates and plays the
> entire broad spectrum of modern black music? I blatantly know I'm not, but
> I'd like other like minded souls to make themselves known.

Prolly.

one
k. orr

TJ Xenos

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May 21, 2004, 1:49:54 PM5/21/04
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>
>i'd say parents need to take responsibility for raising their kids to
>not be so impressionable that the latest g-unit single turns them into a
>killer.
>
>i've consumed ridiculous amounts of violent, disturbing, and sexually
>explicit media (from music, to movies, to tv), and i'm not at all a
>violent person.
>
>not trying to start a flame war, but if the kid's raised correctly, this
>won't be a problem.

co-sign. although the lack of livable wages and/oir social programs makes it
tough for a lot of parents to be around their kids enough to really
superise/teach them coz they have to be working

bozak

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May 21, 2004, 2:09:22 PM5/21/04
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"Muggsly17" <mugg...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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rather confusing... you ask the question, answer it, re-ask it, and answer
it again...

lol...


---Pimp---

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May 21, 2004, 3:06:46 PM5/21/04
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"T. Tauri" <ea...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message

> > 50 Cent makes music for adults that is marketed to adults
>
> Huh? What?

50 Cent makes music for adults that is marketed to adults AND children
listen to it because it's cool AND accessable AND is appealing to everything
in young teenagers rebellious nature.

If 50 WAS marketed directly to kids, he wouldn't be anywhere near as
successful as he is. Part of the reason why kids who aren't really into
hiphop on a bigger scale love listening to 50, Eminem and such like is
because they know they really shouldn't be. It's the same thing that makes
kids wanna smoke, curse, have sex and drink alcohol - "I'm doing things that
I'm supposed to be too young for and not getting into trouble for it so I'm
great"

---Pimp---


---Pimp---

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May 21, 2004, 3:08:25 PM5/21/04
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" bozak" <bo...@mail.com> wrote in message

> rather confusing... you ask the question, answer it, re-ask it, and answer
> it again...
>
> lol...

Why do some people have no problem answering either yes or no or
contributing to the discussion and others just try to be smart to make a
joke?

---Pimp---


bozak

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May 21, 2004, 5:20:47 PM5/21/04
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"---Pimp---" <tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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you think its anything like the same reason that people instead of answering
the actual post look for something to bitch about???


---Pimp---

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May 21, 2004, 6:03:58 PM5/21/04
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" bozak" <bo...@mail.com> wrote in message
> > Why do some people have no problem answering either yes or no or
> > contributing to the discussion and others just try to be smart to make a
> > joke?
>
> you think its anything like the same reason that people instead of
answering
> the actual post look for something to bitch about???

And also the same reason why people decide to bring up something within that
thread that has NOTHING to do with that thread whatsoever and then use it as
an excuse to pull out some "hilarious" nicknames...

---Pimp---


T. Tauri

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May 21, 2004, 9:41:14 PM5/21/04
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---Pimp--- wrote:

> If 50 WAS marketed directly to kids, he wouldn't be
> anywhere near as successful as he is. Part of the reason
> why kids who aren't really into hiphop on a bigger scale
> love listening to 50, Eminem and such like is
> because they know they really shouldn't be.

And according to RJ Reynolds, Joe Camel wasn't aimed at kids.

You say yourself: "it's cool AND accessable AND is appealing to


everything in young teenagers rebellious nature."

S'like: Eminem may be (or have been in his Slim Shady days) risque, but
he was still devoting lyric space to Britney and Christina disses that
didn't mean shit to older folk. It's obvious he knew the audience to
whom he was speaking.

Peece,
T. Tauri

suntzu

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May 21, 2004, 10:45:24 PM5/21/04
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TJ Xenos wrote:
>>i'd say parents need to take responsibility for raising their kids to
>>not be so impressionable that the latest g-unit single turns them into a
>>killer.
>>
>>i've consumed ridiculous amounts of violent, disturbing, and sexually
>>explicit media (from music, to movies, to tv), and i'm not at all a
>>violent person.
>>
>>not trying to start a flame war, but if the kid's raised correctly, this
>>won't be a problem.
>
>
> co-sign. although the lack of livable wages and/oir social programs makes it
> tough for a lot of parents to be around their kids enough to really
> superise/teach them coz they have to be working

very true, very true... but i'd rather attack the root cause (lack of
livable wage) than the symptom (impressionable kids).

---Pimp---

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May 22, 2004, 6:46:38 AM5/22/04
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"T. Tauri" <ea...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> ---Pimp--- wrote:
>
> > If 50 WAS marketed directly to kids, he wouldn't be
> > anywhere near as successful as he is. Part of the reason
> > why kids who aren't really into hiphop on a bigger scale
> > love listening to 50, Eminem and such like is
> > because they know they really shouldn't be.
>
> And according to RJ Reynolds, Joe Camel wasn't aimed at kids.

But there's a difference between selling cigarettes via a cartoon character
which is blatantly aimed at children and selling records that aren't really
aimed at kids but they pick up on it because it's the new cool thing to do.

> You say yourself: "it's cool AND accessable AND is appealing to
> everything in young teenagers rebellious nature."

Of course it is, but as is my point, 50 isn't marketed to kids, kids buy
into it. If he was marketed to kids, he wouldn't be anywhere near as popular
as he is because the majority of his appeal to kids is that they shouldn't
be listening to it!

---Pimp---


Bay Way 41510

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May 22, 2004, 10:51:54 AM5/22/04
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"---Pimp---" <tedebar...@hotmail.com> wrote in message


no you're not the only one on here.

A few years ago, I thought I was the only one on here and that all of you were bots


true story


STRATEGY

Kuahmel Allah

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May 22, 2004, 11:50:18 AM5/22/04
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>>>> And according to RJ Reynolds, Joe Camel wasn't aimed at kids.

But there's a difference between selling cigarettes via a cartoon character
which is blatantly aimed at children <<<<

But it wasn't aimed at kids....it was painted to look realistic and put in car
mags and Playboys and stuff like that...

If Joe Camel was drawn like Pokemon and painted in primary colors, those folks
would have had a point. Oh well, they won anyway, and I don't buy cigs, so it
don't mean nann to me.

Pizon

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May 22, 2004, 1:00:29 PM5/22/04
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>Of course it is, but as is my point, 50 isn't marketed to kids, kids buy
>into it. If he was marketed to kids, he wouldn't be anywhere near as popular
>as he is because the majority of his appeal to kids is that they shouldn't
>be listening to it!

Hulk Hogan as the top babyface that tells you to say your prayers and eat your
vitamins doesn't fly anymore.

The new faces are Steve Austin who beats up his boss and Eddie Guerrero who
tells you to lie, cheat, and steal.

Get at me,
Pizon
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May 22, 2004, 2:24:37 PM5/22/04
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>
>very true, very true... but i'd rather attack the root cause (lack of
>livable wage) than the symptom (impressionable kids).
>

me too. Im just saying it aint the record companies fault kids are buying
into it and dont know the difference between fantasy & reality

T. Tauri

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May 22, 2004, 11:07:51 AM5/22/04
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Bay Way 41510 wrote:

> A few years ago, I thought I was the only one on here and
> that all of you were bots
>
> true story

My theory a few years back (after the Fonky Fresh incident) was that
everyone else was just one or another of Akiem's aliases.

Peece,
T. Tauri


Brian 4 Ever

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May 23, 2004, 3:30:15 AM5/23/04
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LoL....good WWE analogy Pizon

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