What is Gangsta Rap???
PHILLYSTRES
album (I'm sorry it did), No where near a good as the first
LP,anyway I was thinking when is a rapper a gangster rapper
or a record a gangster rap record. Example Eazy E , Mack 10
MC EIHT are self proclaim Gangster Rappers but what about
Redman or Nas and Jay Z or are these on again off again
gangsters? What about Ghostface, Cormega and Beanie Sigel,
sure they gotta be ? What about someone like MF Doom?,check songs
like Red and Gold or Gas Drawls. Were Schooly D , Just Ice & Kool G Rap were
Gangsters Rappers? Think the question here is who fall in the catagory of
gangster rap and Exact is gangster rap and what is not???
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mochaspresso
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> I was at tower records recently and I wuz listening to Westside connection
>album (I'm sorry it did), No where near a good as the first
>LP,anyway I was thinking when is a rapper a gangster rapper
>or a record a gangster rap record. Example Eazy E , Mack 10
>MC EIHT are self proclaim Gangster Rappers but what about
>Redman or Nas and Jay Z or are these on again off again
>gangsters? What about Ghostface, Cormega and Beanie Sigel,
>sure they gotta be ? What about someone like MF Doom?,check songs
>like Red and Gold or Gas Drawls. Were Schooly D , Just Ice & Kool G Rap were
>Gangsters Rappers? Think the question here is who fall in the catagory of
>gangster rap and Exact is gangster rap and what is not???
>
Interesting question. This is probably not right, but in my head, I
always considered gangta rap as a west coast and southern thing. When
it comes out of the east, I think of it as "thug rap".....not "gangsta
rap".
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>Big Up to whole RMHH BTW is been a little while, oh yeah almost for got!!
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>PHILLY GETS IT IN EARLYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................
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Mochaspresso
Da Lamp
its gangsta rap but when the east do it its thug rap or reality rap. Jay
Z is not called gangsta rap nearly as much as westcoast rappers if
called a G rapper at all. Gangsta rap is a term used to cheapen the
artist work.
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>Gangsta rap is a term used to cheapen the
> artist work.
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King Arthur
Then they cheapen it themselves. Alot of them call themselves gangsta rappers,
acting like its a badge of honor or something.
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Nestajones
>Date: 12/31/2003 1:28 AM Eastern Standard Time
>I
>always considered gangta rap as a west coast and southern thing. When
>it comes out of the east, I think of it as "thug rap".....not "gangsta
>rap".
which just shows it's a pointless term and a stupid fuckin question.
quest19...@webtv.net
<< I was at tower records recently and I wuz listening to Westside
connection album (I'm sorry it did), No where near a good as the first
LP,anyway I was thinking when is a rapper a gangster rapper or a record
a gangster rap record. Example Eazy E , Mack 10 MC EIHT are self
proclaim Gangster Rappers but what about Redman or Nas and Jay Z or are
these on again off again gangsters? What about Ghostface, Cormega and
Beanie Sigel, sure they gotta be ? What about someone like MF
Doom?,check songs like Red and Gold or Gas Drawls. Were Schooly D , Just
Ice & Kool G Rap were Gangsters Rappers? Think the question here is who
fall in the catagory of gangster rap and Exact is gangster rap and what
is not???>>
Here's the deal about "gangsta" rap as I see it: although fathered by
the Illadelph's Schooly D. and then popularized nationally by MC Ice-T,
"gangsta" rap took on a life of it's own in mid-1988 with the release of
N.W.A.'s now-classic "Straight Outta Compton". In my opinion, this is
the virtual blueprint album for anyone seeking quick exposure in Hip
Hop. What was, overall, shunned by the East(the golden age "mecca" of
our culture) in terms of their subject matter(and regionalized
stereotypes about the West coast) is now adopted and co-opted(neck and
neck with "flossin') by MOST of the artists on the East coast to "get
into the rap game"---with wack material being put out damn near every
Tuesday for going on a decade now. I'd say it really depends on the
artist's subject matter that determines whether or not it's gangsta.
Then again, you have a LOT of what's called "studio gangsterism". Two
good examples of this is the wack group, Lox. Sean Jacobs(Sheek), Jason
Phillips(Jada"piss"), and the recently-freed convict David Styles, based
on their bios, were reared in a middle class environment where they all
met in Catholic school, yet they "posture" like "gangstas". One hit
wonder Boss("Deeper"), was raised in a well-to-do family in Michigan,
yet her claim to fame was a song that had "gangsta" proclivities to it.
Go figure.
A to the L
said:
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>Phillips(Jada"piss")
Quest, do you just sit around all day, trying to thing up negative
plays on the names of rappers you don't like?
quest19...@webtv.net
<<Quest, do you just sit around all day, trying to thing up negative
plays on the names of rappers you don't like?>>
Actually, I don't. Like yourself, I other things in life jumping off as
well, it's easy to bang on him and I chose to. I wouldn't begin to speak
for you or anyone else, but artists that you aren't favorable toward, I
could see you not putting a great spin on them as artists...in fact, you
have here. Instead of pulling out that one point of contention in my
post, what's your take on the thread itself?
PEACE!
Kuahmel Allah
acting like its a badge of honor or something.<<<<
I think the cats who call themselves "Gangster" rappers, by and large, really
did bang (or did some sort of organized crime). But there's plenty from all
over (yes, including the west, people, sheesh) who didn't bang, but WERE
thuggin'....
Cube never banged, so his stuff was just thug ish to me....but then, it's
common knowledge he wasn't thuggin' either.
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genre "Gangsta rap". This term had been coined by the media and by
many outsiders of the hip-hop culture. Many will tell you that they
call it "reality rap" because what they talk about is what goes on
around these artists (some more than others). Anyhow, I think the
reason that "gangsta rap" has been stereotypcially linked with west
coast artists is because most of that stuff had been unusual and out
of the ordinary in the relative hip-hop spectrum at the time. I mean
in most aspects people like Schoolly D and Just-Ice weren't TOO far
from BDP, PE, Run-DMC, and so on. However for artists like Ice-T, CMW,
NWA, etc... these guys where coming out of a completely different part
of the country and had broken away from their predecessors of
techno-hop/electronic west coast music. Not only that, but the early
west coast stuff seemed to go above and beyond the range of even the
extreme east coast acts. I mean Schoolly was talking about similar
stuff, but to have song titles like "A B---- Iz a B-----" and "F----
tha Police" is something else.
PHILLYSTRES
I basically agree,but let's talk about groups today when some a "Gangster
Rapper"??
Is Nas a Gangster Rapper??
Is Ghostface a "Gangster Rapper"??
Is Camron a "Gangster Rapper" ??
Are The Beatnuts Gangster "Rappers"??
I think The Question is who is and who is not!!
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> Rapper"??
> Is Nas a Gangster Rapper??
> Is Ghostface a "Gangster Rapper"??
> Is Camron a "Gangster Rapper" ??
> Are The Beatnuts Gangster "Rappers"??
> I think The Question is who is and who is not!!
First off I'd like to tell you that I do not like giving an artist or
group a single label of what kind of genre they do. I think so many
artists are so versatile that you have to give them several labels.
But let's just suppose that we could only pick one. Well it's
important to know who the person is that is identifying which
contemporary rap artists are considered gangsta or not. If you were to
ask me, I would tell you that I think of the major songs that the
artist put out. Then I would see what these songs have in common (as
far as theme). I would also try think of who similar artists are and
what their status is. There are many artists who do talk about
"gang-related" activities in their songs. But even so, you have to
analyze those songs and ask yourself what is the artists
objective/intention of talking about such things. So here's my take on
the above artists:
Nas = No.
Ghostface = First I think of Wu-Tang and that throws me off a bit.
Camron = Pre-Rocafella Camron wouldn't be considered Gangster in my
books but lately he would fit into that label.
Beatnuts = I listnened mostly to their first two releases and I find
them more focused on non-"gangsta" topics.
PHILLYSTRES
>group a single label of what kind of genre they do. I think so many
>artists are so versatile that you have to give them several labels.
>But let's just suppose that we could only pick one. Well it's
>important to know who the person is that is identifying which
>contemporary rap artists are considered gangsta or not. If you were to
>ask me, I would tell you that I think of the major songs that the
>artist put out. Then I would see what these songs have in common (as
>far as theme). I would also try think of who similar artists are and
>what their status is. There are many artists who do talk about
>"gang-related" activities in their songs. But even so, you have to
>analyze those songs and ask yourself what is the artists
>objective/intention of talking about such things. So here's my take on
>the above artists:
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>Nas = No.
>Ghostface = First I think of Wu-Tang and that throws me off a bit.
>Camron = Pre-Rocafella Camron wouldn't be considered Gangster in my
>books but lately he would fit into that label.
>Beatnuts = I listnened mostly to their first two releases and I find
>them more focused on non-"gangsta" topics.
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I think you really gotta make and Arguement For both Nas and Ghostface
How are they or are they not Gangster??
Check Nas "Made you look"
Or" We Made it" by Ghostface
Elaborate...
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> How are they or are they not Gangster??
>
> Check Nas "Made you look"
> Or" We Made it" by Ghostface
>
> Elaborate...
Ok now for Nas I don't think you can use "Made you Look" as an example
because that track was the big single from his album. I say that when
looking at an artist you gotta look at album fillers to get the best
look at what an artist truly is. So for Nas I see a lot of his fillers
on the social-awareness tip. I mean if you took "Express Yourself" to
define NWA you would be thrown off. But look at stuff like "Comptons N
the House" or "F/ The Police" and you get a lot closer to what they're
really about.
For Ghostface one can make a good case for him. And if you look at the
solo albums he has and what he talks about then you can easily say
that he's "gangsta". But when I look at him I first think of
Wu-Tang--which isn't a gangsta rap group to me. But to each is own...