OTP: Subway trains v. your whip
quest19...@webtv.net
better have a car. Just an assumption. But, if you live in the
Illadelph, you can catch the train to just about anywhere in this city
of about 4.6 million people. I own a car and I still commute to work.
People ask why do I commute instead of driving in? And I say, if I'm
going shopping, or to a club/bar and it's -3 degrees(like today),
naturally, I'm rolling. But I'm just going to work, the train is right
around the corner from my house, the girls are on the train, Bally's is
right by the train(forget that paying to park jazz), and on and on. I
remember a time when MCs talked about hoping trains to get to
wherever(they had rides too), but it seemed "more Hip Hop" to catch
public transportation. Feel me? With these videos, booty "rappaz" are
driving state-of-the-art whips, flying in lear jets and
helicopters---destination: the projects. What lunacy! But you know,
"they're keepin' it real", so they say. I'd say most of the South(and
mid-Western states) can't relate because you have to have a car and
that's that. But here in the East, I love to commute. It's a "Illadelph
state of mind". Any thoughts?
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bus if we were going to be around campus or the main couple streets in
town. It was less stressful than driving through all the traffic plus
for some reason it just always seemed like we had more fun when we were
on the bus. Some of the greatest memories I have are of being on the
bus.
I love my car and you couldn't force me to get rid of it but I do miss
those days on the busses lounging and clowning.
Big Mike
Kayal
quest19...@webtv.net wrote:
> I'm going to go out on a limb and say if you live in Crawford, TX
you'd
> better have a car.
I *love* trains. I mean, I love the actual physical experience of
being in a train, and looking through your window at graffitti
streaking by. But more than that, I love what having a subway does to
urban life--the kind of civic culture that's only possible in a city of
a certain density and mobility.
I went to San Diego last fall to see some friends. Two cars, four
people, middle of nowhere. It made for squabbling. In NY, we would
have all taken the train.
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> I'd say most of the South(and
> mid-Western states) can't relate because you have to have a car and
> that's that. But here in the East, I love to commute. It's
> a "Illadelph state of mind". Any thoughts?
Trains and walking when it comes to the daily grind. Whips when it's
free time.
I can understand the appeal of pushing your own whip 'round town
though. I brought a car back in March and I've gone overboard putting
money into it for sh!t that I'd never thought that I'd do - rims,
exhaust, intake, etc - cause I've grown so attached to it. But I live
in Queens and I don't have to depend on my car to get to work daily
(hell, if I lived in Manhatten, I wouldn't even need to have a
license). That's one thing I have against suburban life, you gotta
drive every-damn-where and it becomes a chore. And chores ain't fun.
peace,
Neil
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quest19...@webtv.net
experience of being in a train, and looking through your window at
graffitti streaking by. But more than that, I love what having a subway
does to urban life--the kind of civic culture that's only possible in a
city of a certain density and mobility.
I went to San Diego last fall to see some friends. Two cars, four
people, middle of nowhere. It made for squabbling. In NY, we would have
all taken the train. >>
Here, Here! I tried explaining this to my brother(who lives in
Mississippi). He has no clue of the "real" urban landscape and who we
navigate it. To him, I'm crazy for saying that. Well in Mississippi,
they don't deal with "road rage" too much either. He just can't relate.
PEACE!
OT
quest19...@webtv.net wrote:
Well...I don't know too much about Mississippi and I don't know about 'the
real urban landscape' you're speaking on (I think that's relative to where
you are, graf does not a city make, and Mississippi is rural for the most
part) but I'm from Houston and I can tell you for a fact Houston is at
least four times the size of Philly (I've been there), and people down
here +LOVE+ cars maan. It's just a big part of the culture down here.
Even if we had trains I'm show folks would still take their loads
everywhere.(Just like they do in ATL) There are a number of reasons:
1) The city is huge and folks down here move around a lot. It takes 30
minutes by CAR to get from Acres Homes (northside) to Clearlake (far
Southside). Houston is so big going to different sides is like going to a
totally different city. The far Northside and far southwest are all
hispanic (the deep Southwest looks just like east LA), 4th ward is Korean,
etc. there are different types of stores, clubs, housing, etc on all the
different sides of town.
But Houston is special becuz we have one of the best freeway systems I've
seen. We have two loops around the city (610 the inner loop and the Sam
Houston Tollway the outer loop) and all the freeways are up in the air
like bridges. They dont call Houston the Space City for nothin'. 610 and
59 South are 8 lane highways at certain parts. Also H-Town doesnt have any
zoning becuz the city boomed in the 70's so we dont have avenues that run
all the way across the city etc so to get to certain areas you HAVE take
the freeway.
2) The weather is warmer here and people drive ol skool rides. (Dont get
it twisted they drive big body foreign loads too) Lots of folks take pride
in driving fixed up old loads like Impalas, Caprices, Monte Carlos,
Slantback El Dogs, etc. You may think its funny or not even know what I'm
talkinbout, but people down here still ride swangaz and 84's on old loads.
In Houston we Elbows in Cali they Daytons. As far as car culture goes,
if you're ridin 84's your that n!@@a....people respect them like they were
20" Momos.
3) I know yall think they only do stuff like that in the videos, but
people do ride switches, etc. here. Part of the fun of going to the club
is checkin for the parkin lot pimp game outside the clubs. Come down here
I garawntee you'll see some stuff on cars you aint NEVA seen before if you
go to a club....from neon gangsta pop-trunks to wetbars and drop lcd
screens in the Burban. There is a whole culture around this
phenomn...folks call them boppers down here.
4) They have a lot of big events like the Kappa Beach Party, The Texas
Freaknik, the Labor Day Classic, the CottonBowl Classic, the Texas Relays
etc and you need a car to get to them. You caint walk or take the bus to
Galveston Island, playa.
I caint imagine not living without a car becuz Texas is so spread out.
Driving from Austin to Houston or Houston to Dallas aint the same as going
from NY to Jersey, its a road trip and folks down here are used to it. It
aint shit to jump on I-10 west and hit New Orleans for me. I could leave
right now and be there before the sun rose on a tank of gas.
But yall probably need the trains, from my observation yall eastcoasters
aint the best drivers so its best yall let somebody else do the driving,
anyway.
Ha!
OT
mochaspresso
> > experience of being in a train, and looking through your window at
> > graffitti streaking by. But more than that, I love what having a subway
> > does to urban life--the kind of civic culture that's only possible in a
> > city of a certain density and mobility.
Kayal, I think it's cool how you can be so poetic about your love for the
subway experience and that you are enthralled by your daily ride. I don't
know how you do it. I, myself, have a tolerate/hate relationship w/ the
MTA. Because of traffic, the subway is the fastest, easiest and cheapest way
to get around. But I've seen so-called "Civic Culture" go right out the
window on the downtown "E" train from Penn Station to the World Trade Center
at 8:15 am. Humans are downright vile and evil on the subway during rush
hour. They push, they shove, they yell, they cuss, they constantly block the
doors, they insist on cramming like sardines into the cars knowing full well
that there is another train coming in less than 2 minutes and perverted old
men in Brooks Bros. suits get their jollies by using crowded trains as an
excuse to "accidentally" palm an ass or a breast or deliberately position
themselves behind a woman and poke her in the back w/ their pecker. The
platforms are not heated or air conditioned, so it's cold in the winter and
hot as hell in the summer...you literally boil like a lobster while you wait
for the train...and there is nothing worse than being crammed into a train on
a summer day and being pressed up against a stranger's sweaty and funky
smelling unwashed body and/or having someone w/ bad breath constantly breathe
that foul stench directly in your face for your entire ride. When people say
that NYers are rude, I'm convinced that 9 times out of 10, they encountered
someone who just got off the subway.
aka.FemmeFatale
aint the best drivers so its best yall let somebody else do the driving,
anyway.>>
you'll be surprised at how aggressive we are.
k.orr
I went to NY back in 96 to see my Pops and grandma. She wanted me to
drive her around brooklyn, now that i had a license. 30 minutes of
flatbush and I was shook. Now i've driven in LA, Houston, Mexico and
pretty much all parts in between, I've never been scared to drive. But
that winter afternoon in Brooklyn makes me wonder how those folks up
north drive at all. I didn't see one car with out a dent. I sure
didn't see any normal people personalizing their cars. (although there
was this red sc300 on pennsylvania ave parked on the sidewalk with a
homeless guy cleaning the windshield across from a bodega with a grip
of folks just hanging out...)
As in which is better for the authentic hip hop experience, on public
transit you can listen to your walkman. In traffic, I've got my
factory system to push out joints. Most of my epiphany about our music
comes when I've just put some vinyl dubs on tape for the ride.
one
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NE or Midlantic city 'til you've ridden it's rail system. I love it.
ANd half the time, I'm in my own world enjoying my walkman experience.
It's only annoying when school lets out and the young'uns start
trippin'. But year, being on the Broad Street Line or the El is just
nice. It's your downtime and time to chill. I've only been driving for
two and a half years now and no doubt, I enjoy it but I'm used to moving
(like the trains do) so I hate trafffic. My fiancee says I suffer from
road rage (there's an old addage: "you never really learn to curse until
you learn to drive"... it's true). I don't believe it, I just like to
get where I'm going. THat's why I never take the Schuykill Expressway
anywhere. Lincoln and Kelly Drives are my friends when it's not
raining. But you have to experience public transit in cities that rely
on it. When I was in NY some years ago, I loved chillin' on the metro
north and I thought it was cool they had a shuttle train that went back
and forth between times square and penn station (I think... what's the
other train statino in NYC?). anyway, when the weather's good and
there's not like 12 inches of snow, public tranist is cool.
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mr. bone
(HTown, Austin, etc).
I can't possibly imagine not having a ride. While I was impressed with how
fast I could get around town on the train in Boston the last time I was
there, I also remember that anything is better than negotiating slow-ass 95,
pretty much along any metropolitan stretch from NY to Mass. The last time I
was in NY I was stuck waiting for the first train by myself after this
single little train went by on the last stop in Harlem. Yeah, that sucked
major ass at 3:00 in the morning. If I would have rented a car instead,
there wouldn't have been any trouble. I learned to drive from my mom and
when I started to drive in Houston, many years ago, taking the bus just
didn't make sense. I don't know how the hell I got anywhere before I had a
car. Do you know how BIG Houston is??? And TRY taking the bus from
Fondren/Bissonett (SW) to MLK/St.Lo (South Park). The school bus ride to my
high school was over an hour, each way! And it goes in the right direction,
no transfers! PLUS, you will get sick riding on the bus or train by being
close to so many people. Either you'll get a headache or stomacheache from
the fumes or that odd foul stench or some other toxin floating around or
whatever it was that was on the pole you just touched. Anyway, the urban
landscape you mention of NY is extremely dissimilar to that of Houston.
There's no interesting or exciting concrete scenery. And try looking good
to the opposite sex while occupying a bus seat. In NY it's different
because that's the accepted primary means of transportation. Well, I don't
foresee Houston coughing up the dough for anything beyond the bus system we
have now anyway. Even though they did just put a sickening amount of money
into the "Uptown" shopping area which looks like welfare for the rich to me.
And down here it's all about flossing and being independent anyway. Can't
be independent on that Cap Metro, mayn.
mr.bone
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k.orr <k_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
> I went to NY back in 96 to see my Pops and grandma. She wanted me to
> drive her around brooklyn, now that i had a license. 30 minutes of
> flatbush and I was shook. Now i've driven in LA, Houston, Mexico and
> pretty much all parts in between, I've never been scared to drive.
> that winter afternoon in Brooklyn makes me wonder how those folks up
> north drive at all. I didn't see one car with out a dent. I sure
> didn't see any normal people personalizing their cars.
k.orr <k_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
> I went to NY back in 96 to see my Pops and grandma. She wanted me to
> drive her around brooklyn, now that i had a license. 30 minutes of
> flatbush and I was shook. Now i've driven in LA, Houston, Mexico and
> pretty much all parts in between, I've never been scared to drive.
> But that winter afternoon in Brooklyn makes me wonder how those folks
> up north drive at all. I didn't see one car with out a dent. I sure
> didn't see any normal people personalizing their cars.
This is funny because my family noticed this also. Remember, 95% of
my extended family is in either Atlanat or Savannah, GA. So when
someone makes a vist, the climate always is a big topic of
cconversation. We noticed that cats down south are more likely to wash
their cars regularly and keep them looking sweet. Up here (esp. in the
winter), your car will just get filthy in a matter of minutes.
Southern folks do NOT know how to act (or drive) when any type of
frozen precipitation hits. I saw on TV that somewhere in Texas got
like 1.5 inches of snow & the salt trucks were out in force. That's
ridiculous. Toledo broke the record for December by getting like 26
inches in that month. And this winter was pretty tame, especially when
compared to 93-94 (18-20 inches fell overnight. Ohio U was completely
shut down for a week). My boy from Rochester, NY said they got 60
inches one year.
Anyways, public transportation in Dayton, OH stinks, flat out, no
debate. Plus, I like being able to go how I want and when I want.
Dayton's a medium-sized city, meaning it's not big enough for it to be
a better idea to take the bus rather than your own car.
I don't have fly whip by any means. I drive a grey 1991 Plymouth
Acclaim ("Bessie) and she gets me whereever I need to go. She's only
got a radio (tape deck is busted) but I've come to realize that I don't
want to be completely spoiled by being able to hear whatever I want
when I want. The radio keeps my feet (and ear) on the ground.
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Hell, you'll be able to race rally cars in NY after being here dude. You
would be surprised what the car is capable of on snow. The day before
Xmas, I drove from Montréal to Ottawa in a storm, with mi padres as
passengers. they were hollerin about the speeds, but you know what the
cars is capable of. I have to admit that my aortas were dilated for a
minute or two at times, but you have to know how to handle it thought.
That's the key.
But in Toronto, I can't handle the driving for the simple reason that I
live in QB (Queen and Bathurst), and the only safe parking is at the
tower's yard. they give out parking tickets like Loud Street Team flyers.
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That hurts. that's why I pretty much walk when I can.
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"mr. bone" <athi...@origin.ea.com> wrote:
> I don't know how the hell I got anywhere before I had a
> car.
Yep. That's *EXACTLY* why I *LOVE* New York.
Do you know how BIG Houston is??? [cut ] Anyway, the urban
> landscape you mention of NY is extremely dissimilar to that of
Houston.
> There's no interesting or exciting concrete scenery. And try looking
good
> to the opposite sex while occupying a bus seat.
Oh, honey, I've seen a number of men who looked good to me while riding
the subway. MMMMMM, MMMMM. I still daydream about this adorable
redbone curly-haired boy sitting across from me on the 1/9 one night,
as I looked at him frostily above my copy of Bouvard et Pecuchet and he
ever so politely apologized for his friends swearing in front of me.
Is there anything quite so delicious as a thugboy with impeccable
manners? Anyway, to get back to the point, of course the urban
landscape of NY is extremely different, that's part of the original
point I was making. Car culture promotes a diffuse settlements, bad
architecture and huge financial/time premiums on the
poor/children/women. Subways promote tight settlements, a strong
downtown, beautiful cityscapes, more equitably distributed mobilty and
cross-community ogling. The lack of redundancy makes it very difficult
to be a transit-rider in a place like Houston, who's denying it? But
that's the result of several decades of skewed social policy. Let's
not forget that suburbanizing, highway-oriented lifestyles were funded
by the gov't, too.
Kayal
"henri.com" <henri.c...@MEmail.com> wrote:
> But in Toronto, I can't handle the driving for the simple reason
that I
> live in QB (Queen and Bathurst), and the only safe parking is at the
> tower's yard. they give out parking tickets like Loud Street Team
flyers.
Have you been to ciao edie or cafe edie or something? i went there
over the summer and hear an excellent woman dj--mix of hiphop,
dancehall and african music. Very white crowd but I had such an
excellent time.
I had a lot of fun in Toronto and I was surprised because I thought it
would be really dorky. Also the hothouse in the Allen Gardens is
gorgeous.
Kayal
mochaspresso <mochas...@mail.com> wrote:
> > > Kayal wrote:<<I *love* trains. I mean, I love the actual physical
> > > experience of being in a train, and looking through your window at
> > > graffitti streaking by. But more than that, I love what having a
subway
> > > does to urban life--the kind of civic culture that's only
possible in a
> > > city of a certain density and mobility.
>
> Kayal, I think it's cool how you can be so poetic about your love for
the
> subway experience and that you are enthralled by your daily ride. I
don't
> know how you do it. I, myself, have a tolerate/hate relationship w/
the
> MTA. Because of traffic, the subway is the fastest, easiest and
cheapest way
> to get around.
Oh, come on, sometimes when you're like taking the N into Queens or
taking the A/C up to 145, don't you feel exhilarated at the gorgeous,
New Yorky life you lead, the splendid graffitti, the turn-of-the-
century architecture, the long-haired black girl reading Mirabai who's
*not* you, the full-lipped Flatbush dread who is lazily glancing your
way, the quotation from May Swenson's A train poem that someone has
half-torn off the ad rack, the thrill "of entering your real life", and
at the next stop, Amitav Ghosh or Walter Mosley or Richard Howard or
your best friend could get on? The density of stimuli, the sense of
sharing a transcendent experience with so many other people, a shared
social space that cuts across class, ethnicity, location, a civic
culture that unites us all in praise of a swift-paced, cosmopolitan
urbanity? It's like socialism, urbanity and 19th century science all
in one--the Enlightenment every day!!!!!! And trains are beautiful.
But I've seen so-called "Civic Culture" go right out the
> window on the downtown "E" train from Penn Station to the World Trade
Center
> at 8:15 am. Humans are downright vile and evil on the subway during
rush
> hour. They push, they shove, they yell, they cuss, they constantly
block the
> doors,
True, except I've never heard anyone yell. But it's part of the push
and shove of New York. The 4/5/6 is the worst in the morning. Luckily
though, my hours are flexible, so I don't get on the train until 9:30
at the earliest.
they insist on cramming like sardines into the cars knowing full well
> that there is another train coming in less than 2 minutes and
perverted old
> men in Brooks Bros. suits get their jollies by using crowded trains
as an
> excuse to "accidentally" palm an ass or a breast or deliberately
position
> themselves behind a woman and poke her in the back w/ their pecker.
True, but I'm short and carry a briefcase, so all I have to do is turn
quickly and they get the message quite *sharply*.
The
> platforms are not heated or air conditioned, so it's cold in the
winter and
> hot as hell in the summer...you literally boil like a lobster while
you wait
> for the train...and there is nothing worse than being crammed into a
train on
> a summer day
Eh, the worst is when the train stalls. But I love being in the train
on a summer evening when your skin is all golden from going to Fire
Island and you're wearing a short dress with a scarf and the platform
feels sticky and damp, and your boss laughs because every man looks
like he's about to quote Langston Hughes to you, and when you get in
the train, the conductor is singing out the names of the stations
because he feels so merry and the air feels as cool and delicious as a
chilled glass of white wine. I love New York.
mochaspresso
Kayal wrote:
> Oh, come on, sometimes when you're like taking the N into Queens or
> taking the A/C up to 145, don't you feel exhilarated
I'm truly amazed that you're exhilarated by the N/R local into Queens.
That's a 35-45 minute ride!! ...and I know that the A train has a lot of
nostalgia and history behind it but literary babble aside, I've taken it all
the way to it's last stop in Far Rockaway to visit a friend who lived in
Wavecrest and it took FOREVER. Duke Ellington (..or was it Count Basie?)
and Langston Hughes must have been on drugs because that ride was pure
hell. But, whatever floats your boat. Maybe my disdain for the subway
stems from the fact that I'm really a Long Island girl who commutes into the
city for work and occasional pleasure.
> at the gorgeous,New Yorky life you lead, the splendid graffitti, the
> turn-of-the-century architecture,the long-haired black girl reading
> Mirabai who's*not* you, the full-lipped Flatbush dread who is lazily
> glancing yourway, the quotation from May Swenson's A train poem that
> someone hashalf-torn off the ad rack, the thrill "of entering your real
> life", andat the next stop, Amitav Ghosh or Walter Mosley or Richard
> Howard or your best friend could get on? The density of stimuli, the
> sense of sharing a transcendent experience with so many other people, a
> shared social space that cuts across class, ethnicity, location, a civic
> culture that unites us all in praise of a swift-paced,
> cosmopolitanurbanity? It's like socialism, urbanity and 19th century
> science all in one--the Enlightenment every day!!!!!! And trains are
> beautiful.
> But I love being in the train
> on a summer evening when your skin is all golden from going to Fire
> Island and you're wearing a short dress with a scarf and the platform
> feels sticky and damp, and your boss laughs because every man looks
> like he's about to quote Langston Hughes to you, and when you get in
> the train, the conductor is singing out the names of the stations
> because he feels so merry and the air feels as cool and delicious as a
> chilled glass of white wine. I love New York.
Hmmph, you get all that from the subway? You make it sound almost orgasmic.
You're probably one of the dirty old men palming asses aren't you?
Hee-hee...I just got this mental image of a Kayal lurking on the subway
naked in a long trench coat flashing people and fondling every DMX look
alike that rides the train. :-)
Steve 'Flash' Juon
> Hee-hee...I just got this mental image of a Kayal lurking on the subway
> naked in a long trench coat flashing people and fondling every DMX look
> alike that rides the train. :-)
That would be enough to make +me+ take mass transit! ;)
Seriously, I'm not sure what the pissing and moaning about the subway is.
I took the train to New York, and I took the subway to get around
Manhattan the whole time I was there. Other than a certain naivete about
getting on the right train and going in the right direction (unless
you're a native that shit is confusing) I never really had a bad
experience - I thought the subway was cool as fuck. Beats beating feet!
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My area's is kinda hot - esp in the summer dude. but I'll go looking for
it though. Where else did you go?
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that folks can find exhilaration and beauty in something that I find
mundane. She likened the subway in the summer to a "glass of chilled
wine"...I'm like "Huh...WTF? I ride dat mutha-fucka every gottdamn day...how
come I neva felt dat shit?" But it seems like most of you don't really ride
at rush hour like I do, so maybe I see the worst. I love NY like everybody
else, but like I said... I'm a Long Island girl at heart. In the summer, I
prefer the cruising down the Southern State Pkwy on the back of a motorcycle
or in a Jeep w/ the top off and music blasting on the way to Jones Beach or
Robert Moses. To me, that beats an hour long, crowded subway ride on the F
train to crappy, dirty ass Coney Island any day.
mochaspresso
I'm going to steal that expression from you.
Actually, my "Occasional pleasure" stays in Bklyn. (...and puh-leeze don't get me
started on that planet....wanna see some NYers who can't drive, go to Brooklyn!!)
Much love for my occasional pleasure and his Brooklyn peeps, but I have to
know...what is with your obsession w/ double parking? I've never seen this
anywhere else except for Brooklyn.
mochaspresso
that one.
I'm going to steal that expression from you.
Actually, my "Occasional pleasure" stays in Bklyn. (...and puh-leeze
don't get me
started on that planet....wanna see some NYers who can't drive, go to
Brooklyn!!)
Much love for my occasional pleasure and his Brooklyn peeps, but I have
to
know...what is with your obsession w/ double parking? I've never seen
this
anywhere else except for Brooklyn.
TJ Xenos
>started on that planet....wanna see some NYers who can't drive, go to
>Brooklyn!!)
>Much love for my occasional pleasure and his Brooklyn peeps, but I have to
>know...what is with your obsession w/ double parking? I've never seen this
>anywhere else except for Brooklyn.
>
>
Boston you see that fairly regular too, but not for too long coz they gets they
ass towed if they sit for more'n a minute. And as for the subway, ive never
ridding the NY subway, but i love the boston system. I could just sit on the
train or bus watching the scenery and listening to a walkman forever.
T.J. Xenos
xen...@student.wit.edu
"I turn pretty boys into Craig Macks"
"You're wack if you dont appreciate knives"
"And if she wanna play, get up in that bitch face,
and tell her Ghost said, 'TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF!' "
Dippi
>You're probably one of the dirty old men palming asses aren't you?
>Hee-hee...I just got this mental image of a Kayal lurking on the subway
>naked in a long trench coat flashing people and fondling every DMX look
>alike that rides the train. :-)
>
lol, wish I knew what Kayal looked like... I wish I had a picture in my head of
her in a trench coat flashing me...
Dippi
Check for an album out whenever the fuck it drops
Dippi
>That's exactly what I'm doing....pissing and moaning. I'm jealous as hell
>that folks can find exhilaration and beauty in something that I find
>mundane. She likened the subway in the summer to a "glass of chilled
>wine"...I'm like "Huh...WTF? I ride dat mutha-fucka every gottdamn day...how
>come I neva felt dat shit?" But it seems like most of you don't really ride
>at rush hour like I do, so maybe I see the worst. I love NY like everybody
>else, but like I said... I'm a Long Island girl at heart. In the summer, I
>prefer the cruising down the Southern State Pkwy on the back of a motorcycle
>or in a Jeep w/ the top off and music blasting on the way to Jones Beach or
>Robert Moses. To me, that beats an hour long, crowded subway ride on the F
>train to crappy, dirty ass Coney Island any day.
word girl, I feel ya on that... I aint normally a beach person, but I LOVE to
chill at Lookout Point if you know where that is... the towns got like 150
people in it and 7 bars, lol... everyone knows each other and it's mad chill,
and eff crusin southern state, round here it's all about the DPA...
Kayal
mochaspresso <mochas...@mail.com> wrote:
> I have to
> know...what is with your obsession w/ double parking? I've never seen
this
> anywhere else except for Brooklyn.
NAPLES!!!!!!! Quadruple parking.
> "henri.com" wrote:
>
> > Occasional Pleasure? that's a nice - does he know that you call
him by that
> > name?
Are you kidding me? You have to say "continuous, eternal perfection"
to his face.
Kayal
mochaspresso <mochas...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> Kayal wrote:
>
> > Oh, come on, sometimes when you're like taking the N into Queens or
> > taking the A/C up to 145, don't you feel exhilarated
>
> I'm truly amazed that you're exhilarated by the N/R local into Queens.
> That's a 35-45 minute ride!!
Isn't it only the N that comes up above ground? The one across from
the 7. That's what I meant, anyway. It's like a rollercoaster!
...and I know that the A train has a lot of
> nostalgia and history behind it but literary babble aside, I've taken
it all
> the way to it's last stop in Far Rockaway to visit a friend who lived
in
> Wavecrest and it took FOREVER. Duke Ellington (..or was it Count
Basie?)
Ellington said take the a train to *get to Harlem*. i.e. go to the
Apollo, the Studio Museum, that roti place, etc. He said nothing about
Far Rockaway. There's your problem right there. : )
> Hmmph, you get all that from the subway? You make it sound almost
orgasmic.
> You're probably one of the dirty old men palming asses aren't you?
> Hee-hee...I just got this mental image of a Kayal lurking on the
subway
> naked in a long trench coat flashing people and fondling every DMX
look
> alike that rides the train.
Are you kidding? They're not for flashing and fondling, they're for
totally, elaborately ignoring, until you get off the subway and then
you turn/smooth your hair and flash them a sweet innocent smile as they
press their faces against the windows. Girl, you didn't know this? No
wonder you're not having any fun on the subway. But there's nothing
like getting in a cool subway car after standing on the muggy platform
on a summer evening.
quest19...@webtv.net
know about 'the real urban landscape' you're speaking on (I think that's
relative to where you are, graf does not a city make, and Mississippi is
rural for the most part) but I'm from Houston and I can tell you for a
fact Houston is at least four times the size of Philly (I've been
there), and people down here +LOVE+ cars maan. It's just a big part of
the culture down here. Even if we had trains I'm show folks would still
take their loads everywhere.(Just like they do in ATL) There are a
number of reasons:>>
The "urban landscape" I'm talking about was in relation to
Philadelphia, PA. v. Greenville, MS. No comparison. And you actually
made my point. I'm from Mississippi, living in the Illadelph, and I KNOW
you need a car there. I have one here, but commuting is a way of life in
the East. When I party and shop, of course we roll. Houston is STILL in
the South, and as such, the culture will be South. Read: a need for a
car. The demographics here and down there call for different things. And
I'm sure the constructors of Houston never had on blueprint a layout for
any sort of subway system. Most(if not all) Southern cities have buses
that are slow as hell and that's it. So, have a car. Here in the
Illadelph, NYC, and DC(the NE corridor really) everyone has a rail
system. Because of parking problems, and their location to jobs,
schools, and the like, it makes sense to ride the train to avert wear
and tear on your car. That's all I'm saying. Listen to the A-Team's,
"Slower Traffic To The Right". A breakdown of the California driving
demographic even with a rail system out there.
PEACE!
Kayal
Oh, it's demographics alright.
> I'm sure the constructors of Houston never had on blueprint a layout
for
> any sort of subway system. Most(if not all) Southern cities have buses
> that are slow as hell and that's it.
Why do you think that is? Please, people, read this article.
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20001225&s=wypijewski
Joyce
metro a low budget subway.
Anyways I only caught it once when they were new (I think) way back in
92 , and they really don't take you anywhere. I'm not the expert but I
wouldn't choose the mta (bus or metro) over my peice of ish car.
Joyce
time. I noticed that from the ones I've met who now live out here. I
know we are way more relaxed then nyers. One lady in particular who has
moved here from Brooklyn always gets right in my face, and can say
anything and her tone, structure, etc about the way she says things
makes you think she banging on you. She can say "Hi...Nona how's it
going", and it comes out "I'm in a rush get out of my damn face before
I squash you". Ny'ers are fast I just can't explain it. in speech,
ways, everything.
Are any of these places you guys talking about close to Hofstra
University ?
mochaspresso
place near Lido Beach? If it is, I've never actually seen it in broad daylight.
My memory is kinda fuzzy but I remember that folks used to always go there because
it was mad dark and you could find places to.....ummm......you know.....do stuff.
Anyway, I'm trying like hell to forget about my Wyandanch days too....thats why I
totally forgot about Deer Park Ave.
mochaspresso
someone could misinterpet that accent as rudeness. Hofstra's on LI in
Hempstead. It's not too far away from Brklyn...depending on where you're
going its about 20 minutes by car on the Belt Pkwy. Or you could take the
Long Island Railroad from Hempstead directly to Flatbush.
mochaspresso
> Ellington said take the a train to *get to Harlem*. i.e. go to the
> Apollo, the Studio Museum, that roti place, etc. He said nothing about
> Far Rockaway. There's your problem right there. : )
Maybe so, but I still think he was an addict.
> Are you kidding? They're not for flashing and fondling, they're for
> totally, elaborately ignoring, until you get off the subway and then
> you turn/smooth your hair and flash them a sweet innocent smile as they
> press their faces against the windows. Girl, you didn't know this? No
> wonder you're not having any fun on the subway.
Oh my god, Kayal is a total cock tease!!! You remind of a movie that I saw
w/ Rosie Perez....I think it was called Subway Stories. She played a
business woman who got her jollies by having erotic encounters w/ this guy
on the subway every morning. They would share the same pole and pretend to
read their papers. All the while brushing up against each other. They
never spoke to each other but they were total freaky-deaks. She would
deliberately lower her hand on the pole and caress his ....you know....and
he would return the favor, if you're following what I'm saying. Anyway, the
dude falls in love, can't concentrate at work anymore and is ready to dump
his fiancé over this chick. So he works up the nerve to finally speak to
her, and she gets mad!! For her, the spell is broken....she's not in
love...she never wanted a relationship with him....she just liked to get her
jollies by fondling him every morning. Anyway, she stops taking that train
from that point on and I think that he never sees her again and he's left w/
a broken heart....all because of a hand job from some chick on the subway.
Ladies, stop this nonsense right now and put your feminine powers to better
use!!! Don't lead these poor men on.....It's not right. Put out or get
out!!! :-)
Steve Jackson
> No he doesn't.....so shhhhh. LOL!!! "Occasional Pleasure".....I like that one.
> I'm going to steal that expression from you.
> Actually, my "Occasional pleasure" stays in Bklyn. (...and puh-leeze don't get me
> started on that planet....wanna see some NYers who can't drive, go to Brooklyn!!)
> Much love for my occasional pleasure and his Brooklyn peeps, but I have to
> know...what is with your obsession w/ double parking? I've never seen this
> anywhere else except for Brooklyn.
You ain't never been to Philly. This is the only place where folk will
doube park on a narrow one way street with two open parking spaces on
both sides of the car and prevent traffic and a bus from passing. What's
worse, I don't see how n****s can double park on trolley tracks. Man, if
I were a SEPTA driver my road rage @$$ would be taken out mad cars. WHat
you got a 1/2 ton Sentra and I got a 30 ton trolley? N**** move!!!!!
Sorry. I think if I ever drove in NY or Manhattan, I'd have to kill
somebody.
--
Steve S. Jackson "Jazz"
(Poet, Philosopher, Instrumentalist, Video Documentarian, Jazzy Smurf)
s...@astro.temple.edu*|*sjac...@nimbus.temple.edu
http://thunder.temple.edu/~ssj
"We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but
not in despair; Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not
destroyed."
--II Corinthians 4: 8,9
Dippi
well, I'm pretty close to Hofstra... like 20 minutes... if I aint got the dough
to leave the state when I turn 18 I'll probably go to school there...
Dippi
>> Are you kidding? They're not for flashing and fondling, they're for
>> totally, elaborately ignoring, until you get off the subway and then
>> you turn/smooth your hair and flash them a sweet innocent smile as they
>> press their faces against the windows. Girl, you didn't know this? No
>> wonder you're not having any fun on the subway.
>
>Oh my god, Kayal is a total cock tease!!! You remind of a movie that I saw
>w/ Rosie Perez....I think it was called Subway Stories. She played a
>business woman who got her jollies by having erotic encounters w/ this guy
>on the subway every morning. They would share the same pole and pretend to
>read their papers. All the while brushing up against each other. They
>never spoke to each other but they were total freaky-deaks. She would
>deliberately lower her hand on the pole and caress his ....you know....and
>he would return the favor, if you're following what I'm saying. Anyway, the
>dude falls in love, can't concentrate at work anymore and is ready to dump
>his fiancé over this chick. So he works up the nerve to finally speak to
>her, and she gets mad!! For her, the spell is broken....she's not in
>love...she never wanted a relationship with him....she just liked to get her
>jollies by fondling him every morning. Anyway, she stops taking that train
>from that point on and I think that he never sees her again and he's left w/
>a broken heart....all because of a hand job from some chick on the subway.
>
>Ladies, stop this nonsense right now and put your feminine powers to better
>use!!! Don't lead these poor men on.....It's not right. Put out or get
>out!!! :-)
>
Exactly, you aint gotta put out, but atleast don't tease. Chicks always
complain about guys that fuck em and never call... but now I think it's our
turn to complain about cockteases... blueballs can hurt people...
Dippi
>Do you mean Point Lookout?
yea, sorry bout that, I type faster than I think, lol
That's an actual town? Holy Shit!!! Is that the
>place near Lido Beach? If it is, I've never actually seen it in broad
>daylight.
lol, it's ill, my aunt lives out there... you ever been to the Bay House?
>My memory is kinda fuzzy but I remember that folks used to always go there
>because
>it was mad dark and you could find places to.....ummm......you know.....do
>stuff.
lol, well, if you mean blaze, it aint a problem there... everyone there smokes,
if you chill there, you probably know Dr. Rasta... he's a white rasta that
chills at one of the seafood places, lol
>Anyway, I'm trying like hell to forget about my Wyandanch days too....thats
>why I
>totally forgot about Deer Park Ave.
>
WORD? You a Wyandanch girl? Damn... I'm from W.Bab, #'ed streets down by the
border... you probably know all the spots, the hustlin spot Little E and
Straight Path... The Brother's Deli, all that shit... damn, didn't think i'd
meet someone this close to me in RMHH...
Ś-=PHaSE.1=-Ś
> blueballs can hurt people...
>
> Dippi
Amen
...Ś-=PHaSE.1=-Ś...
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"My restlessness is my nemesis
It's hard to really chill and sit still"
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TJ Xenos
>deliberately lower her hand on the pole and caress his ....you know....and
>he would return the favor, if you're following what I'm saying.
i dont quite know what youre talking about, but ima stop reading here coz it
sounds yucky :(
Kayal
mochaspresso <mochas...@mail.com> wrote:
> Kayal wrote:
>
> > Ellington said take the a train to *get to Harlem*. i.e. go to the
> > Apollo, the Studio Museum, that roti place, etc. He said nothing
about
> > Far Rockaway. There's your problem right there. : )
>
> Maybe so, but I still think he was an addict.
>
> > Are you kidding? They're not for flashing and fondling, they're for
> > totally, elaborately ignoring, until you get off the subway and then
> > you turn/smooth your hair and flash them a sweet innocent smile as
they
> > press their faces against the windows. Girl, you didn't know
this? No
> > wonder you're not having any fun on the subway.
>
> Oh my god, Kayal is a total cock tease!!! You remind of a movie that
I saw
> w/ Rosie Perez....I think it was called Subway Stories. She played a
> business woman who got her jollies by having erotic encounters w/
this guy
> on the subway every morning.
Girl, no matter what I say, you keep interpreting it as advocating
touching men, when what I'm actually advocating is *not* touching
them. Pay closer attention. That's the thrill of the subway. You can
flirt with them because they are on the train and you are on the
platform, or you're on opposite platforms, and so you can be totally
flirty without risking anything bad happening. This is my point.
You'd never acknowledge anyone's existence if you were actually on the
train *together*!
Joyce
AWWW Dippi the world ain't ready to rmhh'er sone ONE campus possibly.
LIKE WHOA!
That's what I may be coming to Ny to view, Nyu, Hosftra, and Rochesters.
Julien Boast
>In article <3A553023...@mail.com>,
> mochaspresso <mochas...@mail.com> wrote:
>> I have to
>> know...what is with your obsession w/ double parking? I've never seen
>this
>> anywhere else except for Brooklyn.
>
>
>NAPLES!!!!!!! Quadruple parking.
JAKARTA!!!! As much parking as you want, cos people leave the handbrake off
specifically for that purpose....and from Watford, I can ride the tube
directly into central London (or I could save half an hour plus and just
take the train to Euston).
JB
Your jiggy track? Save that,
We need to hear some shit with knowledge and drama or impact.
-Braintax
hiphopmusic.co.uk - supporting underground hip hop music and culture
mochaspresso
Blvd. Right around the corner from the McDonald's and the train station. Your side
of town (W. Bab) is much nicer. Wyandanch was a hell hole, although I've heard
that they are now trying to build it up. I couldn't understand what the hell was
wrong w/ that town. The surrounding neighborhoods were affluent as hell. Wh