Ever get a strange impulse?
Richard Morris
sidewalk tables--usually separated from the people strolling down the street
by a short wrought iron fence ... that sort of thing. Gives folks a chance
to sit outside on nice days and have their lunches.
So I was taking a walk the other day, and happened to pass by a number of
these establishments ... and as I walk past, I check out what folks are
eating and it occurs to me that nothing at all would prevent me from
grabbing a french fry as I walk past, or snitching a piece of sushi roll off
of someone's plate. Walk by enough places and you could make a meal!
'Course I don't run as fast as I used to, so I did not yield to the
temptation. But I had to laugh to myself, wondering where the idea came
from in the first place.
Ever get weird impulses like that?
R.
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Weird impulses? Yeah, at times. Stealing
other people's food off their plates? No, not
really.
Tom
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Ben
wrote:
The best impulse I ever had in Fresno was moving back to San Jose.
Avant Grape
Stealing? No.
Feel Richard's light maaaaaaan.
-JC
Avant Grape
Why would anyone LIVE in Fresno of all places? What a horrifying life.
To think, I almost thought of attending Fresno State in order to get
my Enology degree. It's too bad, cause I think their program is a bit
better than UC Davis's, but I just can't stomach having to spend one
night in Fresno.
-JC
mr rapidan
wrote:
> Richard Morris wrote:
> > grabbing a french fry as I walk past, or snitching a piece of sushi roll off
> > of someone's plate. Walk by enough places and you could make a meal!
>
It's ok to steal people's food if they can afford it, isn't it?
But I definitely know where you're coming from, Richard, and I don't
mean Fresno. Thinking about doing something, having an impulse that
you know is wrong, and then just daydreaming about the technical
feasibility of it, isn't uncommon, I'd have to think. "If my thought-
dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine,"
somebody said in a song.
The thing is, I'm going to be landing in Fresno late July / early
August 2009, for a flyfishing backpacking trip into the John Muir
Wilderness, and we're going to spend a day in Fresno rounding up gear
and drinking some beers before heading to a campground near our
trailhead. Can you recommend a couple good beer bars that have decent
food and conversation?
Brad Greer
It was in a Seinfeld episode when they were waiting at a Chinese
restuarant. Jerry bet Elaine $50 that she wouldn't walk over to a
table and help herself to an eggroll. NTTAWWT.
Richard Morris
"mr rapidan" <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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snip
> The thing is, I'm going to be landing in Fresno late July / early
> August 2009, for a flyfishing backpacking trip into the John Muir
> Wilderness, and we're going to spend a day in Fresno rounding up gear
> and drinking some beers before heading to a campground near our
> trailhead. Can you recommend a couple good beer bars that have decent
> food and conversation?
Actually I don't live in Fresno ... I only say that to give Dave Kelly a bad
time.
DanPopp
wrote:
Every time I see a guy in a toupee I want to pull it off.
ML
wrote:
Jeez, JC! Don't you think most people who live in Fresno
would live elsewhere if they could?
Either you're born somewhere and get stuck there or move
like I did, and then get stuck *there*, unless you're a millionaire
and can move someplace better or where you most would like to live.
Am I wrong? AM I WRONG? <John Goodman in The Big Lebowski>
ML
> On Jul 20, 1:16 am, Avant Grape <avantnograpec...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Richard Morris wrote:
> > > grabbing a french fry as I walk past, or snitching a piece of sushi roll off
> > > of someone's plate. Walk by enough places and you could make a meal!
>
> > Stealing? No.
>
> It's ok to steal people's food if they can afford it, isn't it?
> dreams could be seen, they'd probably put my head in a guillotine,"
> somebody said in a song.
>
> The thing is, I'm going to be landing in Fresno late July / early
> August 2009, for a flyfishing backpacking trip into the John Muir
> Wilderness, and we're going to spend a day in Fresno rounding up gear
> and drinking some beers before heading to a campground near our
> trailhead. Can you recommend a couple good beer bars that have decent
> food and conversation?
Hey, are you going up to Sequoia? You must, if you are that close.
Although it is the tourist season, and stuff. Oh, there are so many
wondrous and magical places up there.
ML
BTW I know where you actually live RM. I thought it was common
knowledge.
I appreciated the humor when you started posting "Richard in Fresno".
mr rapidan
wrote:
Does he pay more for it that way?
mr rapidan
No, we're actually going to land in Fresno, spend some hours driving
around to get fuel, food, and other stuff we either couldn't or didn't
feel like taking on the plane, *hopefully* find a nice beer bar, or
two, for some relaxation, and then get to the trailhead the next day.
I don't know what designation the land in the vicinity of the
trailhead has, but once we get up a little bit, we're going to be in
the John Muir Wilderness the whole time. We may approach the park
boundary, at times, depending on day trips to high lakes and/or peaks,
but it looks like we won't be getting into the park, period. I did do
a quick tourist jaunt into Sequoia a few years ago - my brother, who
lives in Santa Clarita, and I drove up from the south and basically
did a quick drive in to see General Sherman and just hang out with the
big trees for a few hours. Back to next year, we're probably going to
spend most of our time in a middle ground so that we can get up to
high lakes or down to creeks for fishing, depending on what we want to
do on a certain day, and we may spend a day climbing a peak, if we get
ambitious enough and/or sick of fishing. My buddy's a stream
biologist for the state of Maryland, he knows a guy in the same
capacity who's high up in CA's DNR (or whatever it is in CA), so we've
got the scoop on licensing, permitting, and where to go for the
different kinds of trout we want to fish for.
ML
Back to next year, we're probably going to
> spend most of our time in a middle ground so that we can get up to
> high lakes or down to creeks for fishing, depending on what we want to
> do on a certain day, and we may spend a day climbing a peak, if we get
> ambitious enough and/or sick of fishing. My buddy's a stream
> biologist for the state of Maryland, he knows a guy in the same
> capacity who's high up in CA's DNR (or whatever it is in CA), so we've
> got the scoop on licensing, permitting, and where to go for the
> different kinds of trout we want to fish for.
http://www.sequoia.national-park.com/hike.htm#hi
The Kaweah River used to have beautiful trout.
Brown, brook, golden, cutthroat, rainbow and little Kern golden
trout...
And the High Sierra Trail joins The Muir Trail.
"The High Sierra Trail leads from Crescent Meadow up the canyon of the
Middle Fork of the Kaweah River, crossing the Great Western Divide by
the 10,700 ft / 3261 m pass known as Kaweah Gap. It descends into Big
Arroyo, then climbs up to the Chagoopa Plateau, and drops down again
into the Kern River Canyon. After running up the bottom of the Kern
Canyon, it turns east, climbing parallel to Wallace Creek up to the
junction with the John Muir Trail, 49 miles / 79 km from the starting
point. You can then follow the John Muir Trail about 13 more miles /
21 km to the summit of Mount Whitney. Stock travelers will find some
restrictions on their trip, both natural and those imposed by the park
to preserve the natural beauty we come to enjoy. Backpackers should
encounter no difficulties, if reasonable distances are taken each day.
The campsites suggested in the following description are for hikers
with a minimum amount of time to make the trek to Mt. Whitney. For
hikers with more time, a summary of distances between the alternate
campsites mentioned is given at the end of this description."
mr rapidan
> On Jul 21, 9:21 am, mr rapidan <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > high lakes or down to creeks for fishing, depending on what we want to
Thanks for the link! I'm getting excited, already, and we're 12
months away. My buddy, being the degreed environmental scientist /
stream biologist, wants to put ourselves in position to fish for
species / sub-species that are unique to the specific areas we're
visiting. Which is always my goal, too, but in a much more general
way, I'm just after wild, native trout, and it's always fun to be in a
new area, to explore new country. If I see and photograph *all* the
sub-species in a habitat, great, if I don't, that's fine, too.
Neil X.
>
> Every time I see a guy in a toupee I want to pull it off.
Funny, I have the same urge when I see bikini tops........
Peace,
Neil x.
Douglas T Lilley
I was in DC this weekend and my head was spinning. NY may have
greater cultural variety etc but damn those DC girls are cute! I love
summer! Bikinis & sun dresses, life is good.
Garry the Island Boy
You and me both, bro, but I work on a beach during the afternoon and ,
well, I behave. . . hard to believe
Garry
daflow...@gmail.com
Luckily impulses are not necessarily actions.
Joker
You see a lot of guys in bikini tops back east?
dtom...@aol.com
10 more lbs and I'll be sporting one. Maybe I will start the trend.
Neil X.
I'm really not liking the direction this thread is taking.........
Peace,
Neil X.
mr rapidan
That's the downside to impulses, they can lead you places you're not
sure you want to go.
ML
>
> Thanks for the link! I'm getting excited, already, and we're 12
> months away. My buddy, being the degreed environmental scientist /
> stream biologist, wants to put ourselves in position to fish for
> species / sub-species that are unique to the specific areas we're
> visiting. Which is always my goal, too, but in a much more general
> way, I'm just after wild, native trout, and it's always fun to be in a
> new area, to explore new country. If I see and photograph *all* the
> sub-species in a habitat, great, if I don't, that's fine, too.
You're welcome, I'm envious of the trip you are planning...
sounds wonderful. I sure hope next year isn't so bad with wildfires.
You never know. Perhaps this can help with looking for places to
relax
and have a beer, I was last in Fresno when a niece graduated from
college
and of course with my straight oldest brother leading the way we went
to Marie Callenders or someplace funky like that (good pie, I'll say.)
http://www.pubcrawler.com/Template/ReviewWC.cfm/flat/BrewerID=104063
http://outside.in/Central_Fresno_Fresno_CA/places/category/Breweries
Douglas T Lilley
> On Jul 21, 11:21 am, mr rapidan <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the link! I'm getting excited, already, and we're 12
> > months away. My buddy, being the degreed environmental scientist /
> > stream biologist, wants to put ourselves in position to fish for
> > species / sub-species that are unique to the specific areas we're
> > visiting. Which is always my goal, too, but in a much more general
> > way, I'm just after wild, native trout, and it's always fun to be in a
> > new area, to explore new country. If I see and photograph *all* the
> > sub-species in a habitat, great, if I don't, that's fine, too.
>
> You're welcome, I'm envious of the trip you are planning...
> sounds wonderful. I sure hope next year isn't so bad with wildfires.
> You never know. Perhaps this can help with looking for places to
> relax
> and have a beer, I was last in Fresno when a niece graduated from
> college
> and of course with my straight oldest brother leading the way we went
> to Marie Callenders or someplace funky like that (good pie, I'll say.)
>
I used to work as an internal auditor in the international division of
a big pharma co and ended up in places like Pakistan, Australia,
London, Zurich, South Korea, Japan etc. Inevitably, my two most
frequent travelling companions would head for the nearest Mickey D's
or BK. Of course I never joined them but let's say it was a point of
contention. Still buds 20 years later for what that's worth...
ML
I miss Sweets stepping in with the arby's link.
Your information is worth a lot. You must have stories for days...
BK used to be a once a year guilty pleasure, when they were good
char-broiled fast food...Yeah, we have polluted the world, haven't
we, in a sense, with our fast food and so much else.
Ever get into Twin Peaks? Good diner food I can appreciate.
Kyle MacLachlan: "Good cherry pie and a damn fine cup of coffee"...
wyeknot
wrote:
> Ever get weird impulses like that?
Ever get a weird impulse to cross the street without checking the
status of the traffic/cross signal......cause you could FEEEEL the
LIGHT MAAAAAN!
Just wondering.
Matt
Richard Morris
"wyeknot" <wyekn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Hehe ... actually, no ... that is why I am here to be able to type about it.
Richard in Fresno **Feeeeel my liiiiiight**
Avant Grape
MAAAAAAAAAN!
-JC
ML
> On 2008-07-23 02:08:29 +0900, ML <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> said:
> > Ever get into Twin Peaks? Good diner food I can appreciate.
> > Kyle MacLachlan: "Good cherry pie and a damn fine cup of coffee"...
>
> these days in Tokyo you can get into Burger King once again (they've
> re-entered the market after a few years' hiatus) and Krispy Kreme (for
> the first time)!
> --
> Peace,
> Steve
When I worked at the hospital here
I developed a habit lasting several
months of stopping in the cafeteria
on the way to my dept (kids' psych)
and buying one Krispy Kreme each morning.
Then I decided to try grits, which were
completely foreign to me and I LIKED them!
So for awhile every morning I'd get a very small
bowl of them. Then I found a place selling Odwalla
drinks and would bring one with me every morning.
Brad Greer
<02...@zoom.com> wrote:
>these days in Tokyo you can get into Burger King once again (they've
>re-entered the market after a few years' hiatus) and Krispy Kreme (for
>the first time)!
These are two developments not making Japan proud.
Joker
> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:04:50 +0900, band beyond description
>
>
>
> <02...@zoom.com> wrote:
Man, you haven't lived until you've tried Krispy Kreme sashimi!
Brad Greer
<02...@zoom.com> wrote:
>hey, I recall you lamenting the high costs here; are you looking at
>ways to cut your business trip expenses when in Tokyo or not? you
>don't need to be eating your meals at the Westin! :-)
I don't eat Burger King or Krispy Kreme in the US, I'm sure not flying
across the Pacific to do it.
Besides, we shut down our Beijing office and aren't actively pursuing
business in Asia-Pac anymore. I'm not likely to be heading your way
anytime soon.
ML
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:37:07 +0900, band beyond description
> >>>> Ever get into Twin Peaks? Good diner food I can appreciate.
> >>>> Kyle MacLachlan: "Good cherry pie and a damn fine cup of coffee"...
>
> I don't eat Burger King or Krispy Kreme in the US, I'm sure not flying
> across the Pacific to do it.
So, okay then, Brad.
Funny, Japanese foods are so wonderful,
and healthy, miso, fish, rice,
and we go putting in donuts that would
clog the arteries in about 30 seconds.
Brad Greer
Believe me, I love Japanese food - I've been to Tokyo three times and
was amazed at the food every time. I can't fathom going to a fast
food restaurant or Krispy Kreme when I'm there - the native foods are
all far too good to pass up, even if it can be expensive.
Sherry in Vermont
Same in China... but you'd be surprised how many adopting parents do
nothing but eat at McDonald's, KFC and Pizza Hut when they are in China
for 2 weeks. Or they eat at "western" restaurants and complain that it
doesn't taste right.
Me, I ate local food - not only was it 100x better than fast food, but
a whole lot cheaper! And the western food in China is about as
authentic as the Chinese food is here.
I still don't get why folks who travel to other countries don't want to
eat the local food... I can see why the locals would like the other
types of food, as it is something different from the usual stuff.
Sherry in Vermont
Brad Greer
My only brush with western food when I was in China was meeting a
co-worker at the Starbucks at the airport - it was an easy to find
landmark. Oh, and I took a picture of the Starbucks inside the
Forbidden City as well - nothing like one of the ultimate symbols of
capitalism (yuppie over-priced marketing over quality coffee) in the
heart of communism.
>I still don't get why folks who travel to other countries don't want to
>eat the local food... I can see why the locals would like the other
>types of food, as it is something different from the usual stuff.
>
Exactly - food is an important part of any culture. One of the few
things I liked about Singapore was the variety of food available and
the care taken to prepare it, even in the open street food courts. I
didn't eat puffin when I was in Iceland, though...
Sherry in Vermont
The Forbidden City Starbucks is gone... apparently it bothered someone
or other high up. There were plenty of them elsewhere, though, I didn't
partake. I'm a tea person so I was in tea-bliss there. :)
>
>> I still don't get why folks who travel to other countries don't want to
>> eat the local food... I can see why the locals would like the other
>> types of food, as it is something different from the usual stuff.
>>
> Exactly - food is an important part of any culture. One of the few
> things I liked about Singapore was the variety of food available and
> the care taken to prepare it, even in the open street food courts. I
> didn't eat puffin when I was in Iceland, though...
Oh yes, Singapore food. It is not possible to accurately describe just
how varied or tasty it is in mere words, however. I can't wait to go
back. Andre looked half-seriously at a job he could do in Singapore...
I think it would be way cool to live there for a couple of years... but
no more than that. The heat is fucking unbearable. But the food...
ooooh MAN the food!!!!
Sherry in Vermont
Sherry in Vermont
> oh I live here and eat the local stuff 99 percent of the time, but once
> in a while I NEED that Wendy's or BK fix. I must hate myself and want
> myself dead.
Well, no, I could see that - living there, you'd want a "taste of
home" from time to time. But on a 2-week trip? Some of these folks
NEVER leave the hotel room except for official appointments. They have
fast food delivered. <shaking my head>
WTF's the point of going if you're not gonna leave the room?!
Sherry in Vermont
mr rapidan
> Forbidden City as well - nothing like one of the ultimate symbols of
> capitalism (yuppie over-priced marketing over quality coffee)
I'm in the Lehigh Valley. I'm talking about buying bags of beans or
pre-ground for home brewing.
I don't understand the sometimes over the top criticism of Starbucks,
especially in terms of cost and quality. I *like* the strong and just-
this-close-to-burnt taste of the French Roast. Where I live (which,
while it's the 3rd largest metropolitan region of PA, is really just
another backwards PA town that happens to have 5 or 6 private colleges/
universities), I get Starbucks in the grocery store for about $7 or $8
a 12oz bag. I've found coffee stores around the valley that have
great coffee, but I'm paying $15, $16 a pound. I'm sticking with the
Starbucks, so far. If they're out of the French Roast, I'll get the
Italian. I'm *not* saying that Starbucks is the best shit I've ever
had, or anything like that. It's just the best for the money that
I've found.
So, can most people get way better coffee for the same price or
cheaper? Does some of this have to do with the perception of
Starbuck's corporate behavior?
If you live in a cool city that has great coffee, I suppose you can
get way better than Starbucks for the same price or cheaper, but you
can't here, I don't think.
What's the deal?
LP
There are many coffees in the Seattle area that are better than
starbucks. A whole bunch of people set out to make better coffee when
SB tried to take over the world.
LP
ML
> On 2008-07-25 00:39:52 +0900, Sherry in Vermont <sherr...@together.net> said:
>
>
>
> > On 2008-07-24 11:13:48 -0400, Brad Greer <jjh110...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> >> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:09:07 -0700 (PDT), ML
> >> <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Jul 23, 9:16 pm, Brad Greer <jjh110...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:37:07 +0900, band beyond description
> I still don't get why folks who travel to other countries don't
want to
> > eat the local food... I can see why the locals would like the other
> > types of food, as it is something different from the usual stuff.
>
> > Sherry in Vermont
>
> oh I live here and eat the local stuff 99 percent of the time, but once
> in a while I NEED that Wendy's or BK fix. I must hate myself and want
> myself dead.
> --
> Peace,
> Steve
One of the funniest posts all week. Made me laugh steve--ie-o!
Garry the Island Boy
MMMMM, cloged arteries. . .DOH!
Garry
ML
Oh, you'd love it here, Garry.
Nice place to visit....
biscuits and gravy, the best damn chicken-fried-chicken
and barbeque and oh yeah.......so much plus
then we can come back here and just kick
back on the porch swing and let it all travel
through the arteries as we listen to the frogs, toads,
look at the sky...
ML
> On 2008-07-25 06:05:32 +0900, mr rapidan <jmi...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > What's the deal?
>
> Peets Coffee is always a contender for the coffee throne; not always
> cheap, but if you're already paying your per lb. Starbucks price, you
> should check it out. Bay Area (and other areas with Peets stores, or
> just do mail order) folks can vouch for it!
>
> www.peets.com
> --
> Peace,
> Steve
Been A true fan of Peet's for decades.
I was sad when Mr. Peet died, last year.
"...a damn fine cup of coffee!"
Neil X.
>
> Nice place to visit....
> biscuits and gravy, the best damn chicken-fried-chicken
> and barbeque and oh yeah.......so much plus
> then we can come back here and just kick
> back on the porch swing and let it all travel
> through the arteries as we listen to the frogs, toads,
> look at the sky...
.....and sweat 2 gallons an hour. I'm pretty sure I'd shoot myself in
the head if I had to live on the Gulf Coast. That much heat and
humidity would at minimum put me into a perpetual depression.
Peace,
Neil X.
Sherry in Vermont
That's how I feel about the heat - shoot me now!
Only a few more months left til winter! :)
Sherry in Vermont
Brad Greer
<jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh, and I took a picture of the Starbucks inside the
>> Forbidden City as well - nothing like one of the ultimate symbols of
>> capitalism (yuppie over-priced marketing over quality coffee)
>
>I'm in the Lehigh Valley. I'm talking about buying bags of beans or
>pre-ground for home brewing.
>
>I don't understand the sometimes over the top criticism of Starbucks,
>especially in terms of cost and quality. I *like* the strong and just-
>this-close-to-burnt taste of the French Roast. Where I live (which,
>while it's the 3rd largest metropolitan region of PA, is really just
>another backwards PA town that happens to have 5 or 6 private colleges/
>universities), I get Starbucks in the grocery store for about $7 or $8
>a 12oz bag. I've found coffee stores around the valley that have
>great coffee, but I'm paying $15, $16 a pound. I'm sticking with the
>Starbucks, so far. If they're out of the French Roast, I'll get the
>Italian. I'm *not* saying that Starbucks is the best shit I've ever
>had, or anything like that. It's just the best for the money that
>I've found.
My comment was directed more at going into your local Starbucks and
ordering a cup of coffee - I've never purchased Starbucks beans so
I've got no idea how they fit in the price/quality equation.
>So, can most people get way better coffee for the same price or
>cheaper? Does some of this have to do with the perception of
>Starbuck's corporate behavior?
Again, I can't comment on the price/quality of Starbucks beans so I
can't comment on that. But yeah, some of the criticism of Starbucks
comes from their attempts to put a Starbucks on every block and a
Starbucks inside every Starbucks on every block. I also happen to
really like coffee - I'm willing to pay more for what I consider
better quality coffee, I'll favor the "quality" side over the "cost"
side any day.
>If you live in a cool city that has great coffee, I suppose you can
>get way better than Starbucks for the same price or cheaper, but you
>can't here, I don't think.
>
Search the web for coffee bean venders - the only problem with this
approach, of course, is you have to try a few before you find one you
like. But if Starbucks beans work for you I don't have any problem
with that.
Avant Grape
I lived in Clearwater, Florida for two years. What a miserable life it
was. Humidity plus heat = torture.
-JC
ML
> Neil X., so sensitive and tactful, wrote:
>
> > .....and sweat 2 gallons an hour. I'm pretty sure I'd shoot myself in
> > the head if I had to live on the Gulf Coast. That much heat and
> > humidity would at minimum put me into a perpetual depression.
>
> I lived in Clearwater, Florida for two years. What a miserable life it
> was. Humidity plus heat = torture.
>
> -JC
You guys are SO negative.....course so am I generally!
Neil, should I shoot myself in the head?
I really don't like when it gets real hot,
especially with high humidity.
I'm not living here because it had been my lifelong dream....
my first response to my husband when he brought
it up was something like, "Whattaya outta yer MIND? No Fucking way."
He wanted to be near his folks. And that ended up being
well worth the drawbacks, so...I'm kinda stuck at the moment.
I make the best of it, rather than go into a depression.
The house is paid for, and I can go in where it is a/c'd anytime.
There are three great seasons, similar to San Jose's climate.
And one that sucks. I hear it gets hot on the east coast too, though.
Douglas T Lilley
As someone who has worked summers outdoors in our nation's capital, it
can't be any worse than DC!
Joker
wrote:
So, I guess the Org can't control the weather yet, eh?
;)
Avant Grape
Well, in their defense, the Org had been infiltrated by the U.S.
government at the time and OT 8 was still yet to be released. With
Truth RevealedŽ, anything is possible now.
##########
-JC
Neil X.
>
> > > .....and sweat 2 gallons an hour. I'm pretty sure I'd shoot myself in
> > > the head if I had to live on the Gulf Coast. That much heat and
> > > humidity would at minimum put me into a perpetual depression.
>
> to which the ever supportive and considerate JC added:
>
> > I lived in Clearwater, Florida for two years. What a miserable life it
> > was. Humidity plus heat = torture.
>
> > -JC
>
> You guys are SO negative.....course so am I generally!
> Neil, should I shoot myself in the head?
I wouldn't recommend it, it's bad for the health.
> I really don't like when it gets real hot,
> especially with high humidity.
> I'm not living here because it had been my lifelong dream....
> my first response to my husband when he brought
> it up was something like, "Whattaya outta yer MIND? No Fucking way."
> He wanted to be near his folks. And that ended up being
> well worth the drawbacks, so...I'm kinda stuck at the moment.
> I make the best of it, rather than go into a depression.
> The house is paid for, and I can go in where it is a/c'd anytime.
> There are three great seasons, similar to San Jose's climate.
> And one that sucks. I hear it gets hot on the east coast too, though.
It does indeed get hot in Boston, but not like DC or Alabama. I know
lots of folks who would never tolerate living in a place where it's
below freezing 4 months a year. But I'd rather live in Antarctica
than Alabama. It's a matter of personal preference. Some folks love
the climate in Alabama or N'Awins. I can take it for a few days at
most.
Peace,
Neil X.
Brad Greer
wrote:
>It does indeed get hot in Boston, but not like DC or Alabama. I know
>lots of folks who would never tolerate living in a place where it's
>below freezing 4 months a year. But I'd rather live in Antarctica
>than Alabama. It's a matter of personal preference. Some folks love
>the climate in Alabama or N'Awins. I can take it for a few days at
>most.
>
Have you considered Iceland?
LP
I loooove the climate of Western Washington. So far in July, we had a
run of sunny days in the mid - 70s, then this past week around the
Sound it was cool, with a low marine-overcast, and in the 60s for 3
days in a row.
I hate hot & humid weather so much that I agree with X - I'd live in
Antarctica before the Gulf coast.
LP
ML
> On Jul 25, 11:31 am, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> > It does indeed get hot in Boston, but not like DC or Alabama. I know
> > lots of folks who would never tolerate living in a place where it's
> > below freezing 4 months a year. But I'd rather live in Antarctica
> > than Alabama. It's a matter of personal preference. Some folks love
> > the climate in Alabama or N'Awins. I can take it for a few days at
> > most.
> I hate hot & humid weather so much that I agree with X - I'd live in
> Antarctica before the Gulf coast.
>
> LP
If you'd been in my situation,
you would have probably done the
same damn thing. (I'm not angry, BTW!)
But listen a little better this time,
and open up them highly bright minds you got:
I never wanted to live here.
Bill & Bernice, from NY and Chicago, retired here.
In 1998 Jeff & I worked making good $ and still were
in debt up to our asses and never able to get ahead,
and he wanted to be near his parents, who were OLD.
I loved him so I came too. Then over the past 5 years
they all fucking died on me - so here I am.
*For now*
Neil X.
Mary, calm down, no one is telling you to move. We're just commenting
on the weather.
Peace,
Neil X.
ML
Neil, I am calm.
You are not just "commenting" on the weather,
though, you are saying you'd shoot yourself in
the head if you lived in the South.
Why? Because it is so intolerable a climate part of the summer.
Do you understand what I wrote back to you?
I'm calm, I'm not angry. Really.
Tom Beck
"ML" <mary.eg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:be6f53e9-f989-4b06...@f36g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> If you'd been in my situation,
> you would have probably done the
> same damn thing. (I'm not angry, BTW!)
> But listen a little better this time,
> and open up them highly bright minds you got:
> I never wanted to live here.
> Bill & Bernice, from NY and Chicago, retired here.
> In 1998 Jeff & I worked making good $ and still were
> in debt up to our asses and never able to get ahead,
> and he wanted to be near his parents, who were OLD.
> I loved him so I came too. Then over the past 5 years
> they all fucking died on me - so here I am.
> *For now*
Demand your money back! The Universal Human
Warranty (UHW) should be longer than that. Or
maybe move to Mexico or Belize, that's what I've got
in mind.
Tom
ML
But why won't you acknowledge why I'm here,
I'd sure appreciate it.
And have fun this weekend with your bro at the Vibes.
Watch your dose, amigo!
Tried Russian River Brewing ale and agree it is great.
ML
> "ML" <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Is this a possible invitation? ####### (tm: GB)
I don't have enough $$ available yet to move somewhere good.
My house is only worth 125 grand. Got 10 in the bank.
How about Trinidad, Tom? Sounds like an interesting place.
Tom Beck
"ML" <mary.eg...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:477d2b89-9879-483e...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Demand your money back! The Universal Human
>> Warranty (UHW) should be longer than that. Or
>> maybe move to Mexico or Belize, that's what I've got
>> in mind.
>>
>> Tom
>
> Is this a possible invitation? ####### (tm: GB)
> I don't have enough $$ available yet to move somewhere good.
> My house is only worth 125 grand. Got 10 in the bank.
> How about Trinidad, Tom? Sounds like an interesting place.
I had a classmate back in college from Trini. He made
it sound like a pretty nice place, but other than that I've
no idea what the situation is like there. I have got a
line though on some new condo construction out on
Caye Caulker, one of the many offshore islands of
Belize where I've been 3 times though. They go for $129K USD. CC is way
cool, and super cheap as well,
check out the Island Oasis Resort Condominiums at
www.coldwellbankerbelize.com. I'll do my best to
explain the monetary/legal system of Belize at another
time if you're bored enough to read it. Just don't beat
me to the punch on this one, OK? Mainland Belize is
far more humid than almost anywhere I've been in the
U.S. but the offshore islands are a completely different
story. They don't tell you on the website above, but
these are near the CC airport on the south end of the island. The CIA World
Fact Book has good info on
the demographics and economy of the country as a whole
if you want to do some research. And *never* get
caught wearing socks on CC!
Tom
LP
> On Jul 25, 2:04 pm, LP <so.you...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 25, 11:31 am, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > It does indeed get hot in Boston, but not like DC or Alabama. I know
> > > lots of folks who would never tolerate living in a place where it's
> > > below freezing 4 months a year. But I'd rather live in Antarctica
> > > than Alabama. It's a matter of personal preference. Some folks love
> > > the climate in Alabama or N'Awins. I can take it for a few days at
> > > most.
> > I hate hot & humid weather so much that I agree with X - I'd live in
> > Antarctica before the Gulf coast.
>
> > LP
>
> If you'd been in my situation,
> you would have probably done the
> same damn thing. (I'm not angry, BTW!)
> But listen a little better this time,
> and open up them highly bright minds you got:
> I never wanted to live here.
I though we were just talking about the weather.
I didn't mean to offend you.
LP
Joker
> "ML" <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:477d2b89-9879-483e...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Demand your money back! The Universal Human
> >> Warranty (UHW) should be longer than that. Or
> >> maybe move to Mexico or Belize, that's what I've got
> >> in mind.
>
> >> Tom
>
> > Is this a possible invitation? ####### (tm: GB)
> > I don't have enough $$ available yet to move somewhere good.
> > My house is only worth 125 grand. Got 10 in the bank.
> > How about Trinidad, Tom? Sounds like an interesting place.
>
> I had a classmate back in college from Trini. He made
> it sound like a pretty nice place, but other than that I've
> no idea what the situation is like there. I have got a
> line though on some new condo construction out on
> Caye Caulker, one of the many offshore islands of
> Belize where I've been 3 times though. They go for $129K USD. CC is way
> cool, and super cheap as well,
> explain the monetary/legal system of Belize at another
> time if you're bored enough to read it. Just don't beat
> me to the punch on this one, OK? Mainland Belize is
> far more humid than almost anywhere I've been in the
> U.S. but the offshore islands are a completely different
> story. They don't tell you on the website above, but
> these are near the CC airport on the south end of the island. The CIA World
> Fact Book has good info on
> the demographics and economy of the country as a whole
> if you want to do some research. And *never* get
> caught wearing socks on CC!
>
> Tom
I have a friend in her late 20s who had "family money." She took up
SCUBA and did a trip to Belize, and fell in love with it. Moved there,
met and fell in love and married a guy who's family own a dive
business.
She and her husband were up visiting friends and taking care of some
business when hurricane something-or-other hit this spring. They
managed to get a call through and heard there was 8 feet of water in
their shop. Husband flew back home on the next flight available.
Haven't heard how clean-up/recovery went yet.
Even paradise has it's ups and downs, I guess...
Tom Beck
"Joker" <joke...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:f01be81d-a99a-44df...@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> I have a friend in her late 20s who had "family money." She took up
> SCUBA and did a trip to Belize, and fell in love with it. Moved there,
> met and fell in love and married a guy who's family own a dive
> business.
> She and her husband were up visiting friends and taking care of some
> business when hurricane something-or-other hit this spring. They
> managed to get a call through and heard there was 8 feet of water in
> their shop. Husband flew back home on the next flight available.
> Haven't heard how clean-up/recovery went yet.
> Even paradise has it's ups and downs, I guess...
Well, that is one the hazards inherant to living near
a tropical ocean on a piece of land that may have
about 1 foot of elevation, if that. In many cases
people's homes are on stilts of sorts anywhere up to
8 feet off the ground. CC is sheltered by some larger
land masses further offshore but it does suffer hurricane
damage at times though. Usually it takes the form of
really high winds and heavy rain. Doesn't get the really
big waves too often. Most of the time things are back
to normal in 1 or 2 days. I think a dive shop would
come through it without too much serious damage.
Tom
Neil X.
> On Jul 25, 3:53 pm, ML <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jul 25, 3:31 pm, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Mary, calm down, no one is telling you to move. We're just commenting
> > > on the weather.
>
> > > Peace,
> > > Neil X.
>
> > Neil, I am calm.
> > You are not just "commenting" on the weather,
> > though, you are saying you'd shoot yourself in
> > the head if you lived in the South.
> > Why? Because it is so intolerable a climate part of the summer.
> > Do you understand what I wrote back to you?
> > I'm calm, I'm not angry. Really.
>
> But why won't you acknowledge why I'm here,
> I'd sure appreciate it.
You want me to acknowledge that you're living in the south only
because you have to, not because you want to? I can do that, but it
doesn't seem very polite to talk about it. The thing about weather
is, one man gathers what another man spills. There's a stud football
player on the Patriots named Ty Warren, and he can't wait to get back
to Georgia after the season is over. He HATES the weather in New
England. It's no negative reflection on you that detest the weather
in places like Georgia, Mississippi and Alabama. I don't take it as a
personal insult when folks don't understand how I can tolerate living
in a place as cold as Boston, and you shouldn't give a damn if someone
like me would detest the weather where you live.
Peace,
Neil X.
ML
Why shouldn't I give a damn?
You're a good person, Neil.
Thanks for the acknowledgment. <insert a smiley face>
I didn't take it as a personal insult,
if it seemed that way.
Ben
> and you shouldn't give a damn if someone
> like me would detest the weather where you live.
Amen! The south is detestable for so many more reasons than just the
horrible weather...
ML
There are good and bad things about most everywhere.
The beauty of nature here, the wonderful assortment of
birds and plants and trees, awesome thunderstorms,
and some really nice people.
Just gotta poke around.
Garry the Island Boy
> On Jul 24, 7:18 pm, Garry the Island Boy <garry...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 24, 11:09 am, ML <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 23, 9:16 pm, Brad Greer <jjh110...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:37:07 +0900, band beyond description
> > > > >>>> Ever get into Twin Peaks? Good diner food I can appreciate.
> > > > >>>> Kyle MacLachlan: "Good cherry pie and a damn fine cup of coffee"...
>
> > > > I don't eat Burger King or Krispy Kreme in the US, I'm sure not flying
> > > > across the Pacific to do it.
>
> > > So, okay then, Brad.
> > > Funny, Japanese foods are so wonderful,
> > > and healthy, miso, fish, rice,
> > > and we go putting in donuts that would
> > > clog the arteries in about 30 seconds.
>
> > MMMMM, cloged arteries. . .DOH!
>
> > Garry
>
> Oh, you'd love it here, Garry.
> Nice place to visit....
> biscuits and gravy, the best damn chicken-fried-chicken
> and barbeque and oh yeah.......so much plus
> then we can come back here and just kick
> back on the porch swing and let it all travel
> through the arteries as we listen to the frogs, toads,
>
> - Show quoted text -
Oh, I get it, paradise in Alabama!! We call it America's Paradox or
America's Parrot Talks. . .:)
Garry
Garry the Island Boy
> On 2008-07-25 10:38:32 -0400, "Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> said:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Mary wrote:
>
> >> Nice place to visit....
> >> biscuits and gravy, the best damn chicken-fried-chicken
> >> and barbeque and oh yeah.......so much plus
> >> then we can come back here and just kick
> >> back on the porch swing and let it all travel
> >> through the arteries as we listen to the frogs, toads,
> >> look at the sky...
>
> > the head if I had to live on the Gulf Coast. That much heat and
> > humidity would at minimum put me into a perpetual depression.
>
> > Neil X.
>
> That's how I feel about the heat - shoot me now!
>
> Only a few more months left til winter! :)
>
> Sherry in Vermont- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well, come on DOWN! While you folks are sweating it out we have 89 deg
highs and 79 deg lows . . . OK, sometimes it gets to the mid 70's and
he break out the sheets and sometimes even the BLANKETS!!!
Garry
Garry the Island Boy
wrote:
>
> ##########
>
> -JC- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
LOLROTFAPMP!!
Garry
Garry the Island Boy
> "ML" <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
This life is a test and only a test, had it been a REAL life you would
have received further instructions. We now return your to your
previously schedulaed rant.
Garry
Garry the Island Boy
Russian RIver Ale? Have you had a LAP DANCE? Great, although I am
partial to Pliny the Elder. When I went to Santa Rosa years ago a
bartender saw my ST Thomas hat and mentioned he lived there. I said I
had a treat for him. There was a case of Jeromes Hot Sauce, local
made, and I gave him a bottle. He said he knew Jerome from his days at
the Ritz Carlton resort. Needless to say, I am still in there
computerised register as THE HOT SAUCE GUY. I left another bottle for
the other bartender who lived on St Croix and it got passed around
faster than a drunk cheerleader at a frat party. Fun happens if you
let it. . . :-)
Garry
ML
Fine! You don't want to experience the
wonderfulness and sit on the swing with me....
Fine! It is wonderful....
(drugs help)
Garry the Island Boy
> "ML" <mary.egret1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:477d2b89-9879-483e...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Demand your money back! The Universal Human
> >> Warranty (UHW) should be longer than that. Or
> >> maybe move to Mexico or Belize, that's what I've got
> >> in mind.
>
> >> Tom
>
> > Is this a possible invitation? ####### (tm: GB)
> > I don't have enough $$ available yet to move somewhere good.
> > My house is only worth 125 grand. Got 10 in the bank.
> > How about Trinidad, Tom? Sounds like an interesting place.
>
> I had a classmate back in college from Trini. He made
> it sound like a pretty nice place, but other than that I've
> no idea what the situation is like there. I have got a
> line though on some new condo construction out on
> Caye Caulker, one of the many offshore islands of
> Belize where I've been 3 times though. They go for $129K USD. CC is way
> cool, and super cheap as well,
> explain the monetary/legal system of Belize at another
> time if you're bored enough to read it. Just don't beat
> me to the punch on this one, OK? Mainland Belize is
> far more humid than almost anywhere I've been in the
> U.S. but the offshore islands are a completely different
> story. They don't tell you on the website above, but
> these are near the CC airport on the south end of the island. The CIA World
> Fact Book has good info on
> the demographics and economy of the country as a whole
> if you want to do some research. And *never* get
> caught wearing socks on CC!
>
> Tom
They have opened Honduras for Americans to OWN land, a bunch of ex-pat
boaties I know have bought property cheap, cheap cheap, I wish I had a
partner to make a stand with at the time. The other one is DR
<Dominican Republic> I actually meet a former GD raody named WOLF who
lives there. We hit it off like a ball off Hank Arrons bat. We still
email but haven't sailed there yet. Open invitation. Small islands,
smaller world. . .
Garry
Garry the Island Boy
>
> - Show quoted text -
To quote someone, "Is this an invitation?" LOL!
Garry
Douglas T Lilley
"And I hope Mr. Young will remember
Southern man don't need hin round anyhow"
ML
>
> To quote someone, "Is this an invitation?" LOL!
>
> Garry
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Andy Gefen
<joke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>I have a friend in her late 20s who had "family money." She took up
>SCUBA and did a trip to Belize, and fell in love with it. Moved there,
>met and fell in love and married a guy who's family own a dive
>business.
>She and her husband were up visiting friends and taking care of some
>business when hurricane something-or-other hit this spring. They
>managed to get a call through and heard there was 8 feet of water in
>their shop. Husband flew back home on the next flight available.
>Haven't heard how clean-up/recovery went yet.
>Even paradise has it's ups and downs, I guess...
I had a co-worker (at the time, she ran one department of the company,
and I ran the other) who went to Belize for two weeks. The following
Monday, she called up her boss and said, "Jack, I'm a little weirded
out. I think I'm going to stay here a little longer." She ended up
coming back to the States something like 5 years later.
-- Andy (remove z's to respond)
kpn...@yahoo.com
Since I have relatives that live in MA, I can say with some authority,
Boston sucks.
I will take NC any day, ymmv.
Kurt in NC
PS - now where is all this belize crap in this thread....