Jerry Garcia was a Spy......
Joe Suny
This article appeared in the sept edition of Binghamton University's Off
Campus college newspaper, I am going to write a response, so please help me
out w/ ideas and information :
Jerry Garcia was a spy
A recent release of documents under the Freedom of Information Act has
revealed the late singer of the Grateful Dead to have been a paid employee of
the FBI in th 1960's and 1970's. Garcia supposedly worked for the notorious
COINTELPRO operation that was resposible for smashing various progressive
social movments of the 1960's.
According to a 1968 document, Garcia was employed because the Deads music
"channeled youth dissent and rebellion into more benign and non threatening
direcions." At the time , the FBI was concerned with merger of more radical
elements of the 60's left and the drug culture that would radicalize whole
concert crowds into opposing the veitnam conflict. The amount of money
involved was unspecified, but an FBI spokesman stated that Garcia's employment
did not last past 1975, when COINTELPRO was disbanded.
Considering their promotion of the "Drop-out" drug culture, and the
apolitical cult following they had, along with the fact that Jerry had acces
to the upper echelons of the new left in the 1960's, the pieces jibe with this
new evidence of Garcias complicity.
The COINTELPRO operation was resposiblr for the distruction of the
American indian Movement, The Black Panther Party and other revolutionary
movements of the 1960'. How many other pop figuers of that age were co-opted
into working against progressive social change?
But for now, be grateful Jerry's dead.
Please e-mail me w/ respones and info so that I can write a response,\
Thanks,
Jason
" Just another cat down under the stars tonight"
paul bick
smells like bullshit to me.
pb
Henry B Kelley
Duh, We all worked for the feds, where do you think the acid came from?
Jerry often admitted it openly: "I'm Uncle Sam...hidingb out in a
rocknroll band" No smiley, no kidding.
Aloha, Henry
Joe Suny (joe...@binghamton.edu) wrote:
: This article appeared in the sept edition of Binghamton University's Off
Steallight
a>Jerry Garcia was a spy
any doubt now that america is dumbing down? That rumor was laid to rest
long before Jerry.
Read 1984 Jason, see the term "newspeak." learn how easy it is to
rewrite history and discredit "revisionists and revanchonists" We may have
"won the cold war" according to Ronnie Raygun, but we gave up part of our
national soul to do so.
Happily dancing in the Phil Zone and scattering Garcia Ashes!
S Lenon ( for anyone who gives a damn)
Cary Silverman
paul bick <pb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>smells like bullshit to me.
>pb
>
Looks like shit, tastes like shit too. good thing we no step in it!
John Hanson
Joe Suny wrote:
>
> This article appeared in the sept edition of Binghamton University's Off
> Campus college newspaper, I am going to write a response, so please help me
> out w/ ideas and information :
>
>
Dear Joe,
You might want to ask the authors of that article how much sense they
think it makes to pay Jerry Garcia to support rock and roll and acid.
John H.
By the way, for each person who sends me $5. I will locate one Dead show
not already in my collection and enjoy it very much.
DCin10AC
Joe Suny wrote:
>
> This article appeared in the sept edition of Binghamton University's Off
> Campus college newspaper, I am going to write a response, so please help me
> out w/ ideas and information :
>
> Jerry Garcia was a spy
>
> revealed the late singer of the Grateful Dead to have been a paid employee of
> the FBI in th 1960's and 1970's. Garcia supposedly worked for the notorious
> COINTELPRO operation that was resposible for smashing various progressive
> social movments of the 1960's.
> According to a 1968 document, Garcia was employed because the Deads music
> "channeled youth dissent and rebellion into more benign and non threatening
> direcions." At the time , the FBI was concerned with merger of more radical
> elements of the 60's left and the drug culture that would radicalize whole
> concert crowds into opposing the veitnam conflict. The amount of money
> involved was unspecified, but an FBI spokesman stated that Garcia's employment
> did not last past 1975, when COINTELPRO was disbanded.
> Considering their promotion of the "Drop-out" drug culture, and the
> apolitical cult following they had, along with the fact that Jerry had acces
> to the upper echelons of the new left in the 1960's, the pieces jibe with this
> new evidence of Garcias complicity.
> The COINTELPRO operation was resposiblr for the distruction of the
> American indian Movement, The Black Panther Party and other revolutionary
> movements of the 1960'. How many other pop figuers of that age were co-opted
> into working against progressive social change?
> But for now, be grateful Jerry's dead.
>
> Please e-mail me w/ respones and info so that I can write a response,\
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
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On Sat, 27 Sep 97 03:07:33 GMT, joe...@binghamton.edu (Joe Suny)
wrote:
> This article appeared in the sept edition of Binghamton University's Off
>Campus college newspaper, I am going to write a response, so please help me
>out w/ ideas and information :
>
> Jerry Garcia was a spy
Falls apart under basic logic. The Dead played a benefit or two for
radical groups, but other than that, they had almost no contact with
the political side of things. Wouldn't even protest the Vietnam War,
because they had friend there. If Jerry was going to be useful as a
spy on the radical groups, he'd have had to have some kind of regular
contact with them.
Paul Matulic
steal...@aol.com (Steallight) wrote:
>a>Jerry Garcia was a spy
>any doubt now that america is dumbing down? That rumor was laid to rest
>long before Jerry.
> Read 1984 Jason, see the term "newspeak." learn how easy it is to
>rewrite history and discredit "revisionists and revanchonists" We may have
>"won the cold war" according to Ronnie Raygun, but we gave up part of our
>national soul to do so.
>
>
>
>
>
>Happily dancing in the Phil Zone and scattering Garcia Ashes!
>
>S Lenon ( for anyone who gives a damn)
Pretty silly notion. People spy for ideology or money. I recall a
Jerry quote in the Rolling Stone: "the silliest thing about the
sixties was the politics." He didn't vote and had a healthfully
cynical view toward politics. And he had money. PM
Carl and Debbie Eckrode
My memory decays as time goes by, but didn't this same thread appear a
couple of years back? Seriously, though, I wouldn't trust any document
originating from the FBI purporting to name someone involved in
COINTELPRO operations. For one thing, the names of people genuinely
involved in such goings on will remain classified (and thus not subject
to FOIA requests) for many years to come. Secondly, what better way to
smear the good name of someone as important to the counterculture as
Jerry Garcia, then for someone to provide documents claiming that the
person worked for a notorious FBI operation, and then release them after
the individual's death (preventing any defense, legal or otherwise).
Just a theory. I, for one, don't believe that Jerry was "a spy". My
response to the press article: open a beer, pop a show into the
cassette player, and be grateful that Jerry was alive!
Peace and Health,
Carl
Money Milt
Jerry a spy ?............That sounds logical !!!!!!
JC Martin
> Pretty silly notion. People spy for ideology or money. I recall a
> Jerry quote in the Rolling Stone: "the silliest thing about the
> sixties was the politics." He didn't vote and had a healthfully
> cynical view toward politics. And he had money. PM
But let's add that he didn't have very much money in the 60's or 70's.
-JC Martin
(thinking it would be cool if Jerry was a spy)
Mark Kregel
> Read 1984 Jason, see the term "newspeak." learn how easy it is to
>rewrite history and discredit "revisionists and revanchonists" We may have
>"won the cold war" according to Ronnie Raygun, but we gave up part of our
>national soul to do so.
>
At the risk of sounging like a mush, er rush-head...DITTO!
When was the last day that went by that you DIDN"T see the government
in some form or another...when was the last time you knew exactly what
our military was doing...when was the last time people actually CARED
what the military was doing.
We have been lulled into a non-questioning society by the Regans,
Clintons and big businesses behind them.
Jus' my dos centavos,
Peace,
Mark
Paul Matulic
"JC Martin" <jcma...@primenet.com> wrote:
>> Pretty silly notion. People spy for ideology or money. I recall a
>> Jerry quote in the Rolling Stone: "the silliest thing about the
>> sixties was the politics." He didn't vote and had a healthfully
>> cynical view toward politics. And he had money. PM
>
>But let's add that he didn't have very much money in the 60's or 70's.
He had enough money that he was able to talk about giving it away in
the famous interview in the Rolling Stone, "Signpost to New Space"
(sic). That was very early 70s. PM
Lawrence Ladd
How ridiculous is that you ever hear a spy play guitar like that. Maybe
we could set up a dueling banjo/guitar duel between Jerry and James
Bond. Spy vs. Spy.
Dean Barnett
> Jerry Garcia was a spy
>
<<<SNIP>>>
> The COINTELPRO operation was resposiblr for the distruction of the
>American indian Movement, The Black Panther Party and other revolutionary
>movements of the 1960'. How many other pop figuers of that age were co-opted
>into working against progressive social change?
As I recall, with admittedly unreliable memory, most of the
"revolutionary" student groups of that era dissolved because we found
ourselves faced with the potential if not the reality of grimly
tripping adolescents with high explosives reading the demolition
intruction manual.
Also, several of us graduated and had to get jobs.
Pax Garcia
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In article <342F1E...@aracnet.com>, Carl and Debbie Eckrode
<carl...@aracnet.com> writes
>My memory decays as time goes by, but didn't this same thread appear a
>couple of years back? Seriously, though, I wouldn't trust any document
>originating from the FBI purporting to name someone involved in
>COINTELPRO operations.
Just look at the name: it's a load of COPRO, which is crap, and
in the middle of it all is INTEL, who would obviously be pleased to
smear anyone from the Dead, a renowned bunch of Apple Macintosh users.
:-)
Jelly.
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Jimmy Hawke
> This article appeared in the sept edition of Binghamton University's Off
> Campus college newspaper, I am going to write a response, so please help me
> out w/ ideas and information :
> revealed the late singer of the Grateful Dead to have been a paid employee of
> the FBI in th 1960's and 1970's. Garcia supposedly worked for the notorious
> COINTELPRO operation that was resposible for smashing various progressive
> social movments of the 1960's.
> According to a 1968 document, Garcia was employed because the Deads music
> "channeled youth dissent and rebellion into more benign and non threatening
> direcions." At the time , the FBI was concerned with merger of more radical
> elements of the 60's left and the drug culture that would radicalize whole
> concert crowds into opposing the veitnam conflict. The amount of money
> involved was unspecified, but an FBI spokesman stated that Garcia's employment
> did not last past 1975, when COINTELPRO was disbanded.
> Considering their promotion of the "Drop-out" drug culture, and the
> apolitical cult following they had, along with the fact that Jerry had acces
> to the upper echelons of the new left in the 1960's, the pieces jibe with this
> new evidence of Garcias complicity.
> American indian Movement, The Black Panther Party and other revolutionary
> movements of the 1960'. How many other pop figuers of that age were co-opted
> into working against progressive social change?
>
> Please e-mail me w/ respones and info so that I can write a response,\
> Thanks,
> Jason
yoker56
> This article appeared in the Sept edition of Binghamton University's Off
> out w/ ideas and information :
> According to a 1968 document, Garcia was employed because the Grateful Dead's music
> "channeled youth dissent and rebellion into more benign and non-threatening
> directions." At the time, the FBI was concerned with the merger of more radical
>
> Please e-mail me w/ responses and info so that I can write a response.
P-Dub
I have a more sinister theory.
Nixon was very paranoid of the drug culture and it's power. He also was very paranoid of liberals. And he was power hungry.
Nixon was a nasty bastard. And he had a lot of 'friends'.
Nixon was in Dallas when JFK was assassinated. If JFK had lived, Nixon would never have been elected president. Hmmmm...
Nixon also benefited when RFK was assassinated. Again - RFK would have been easily elected president. Nixon would not have. Hmmmmmmm.....
It didn't stop there.
Nixon was no fan of Martin Luther King. Hmmmm..
Nixon also couldn't stand rock and roll. In a span of a few short years, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Duane Allman and Pigpen - died. I wouldn't put it past Nixon to be involved in these deaths at all. All these artists were leaders of the rock N roll antiwar generation. HMMMMMMMM....
I have no evidence of any of this. But ... follow the money....