Sure. It's also possible to face Federal charges for doing so.
Yep, it will read "Send my taxes directly to Halliburton!"
Edwin
> Anyone think it's possible to get
Sure, although that will allow everyone else to opt-out of their taxes being
used for things they don't approve of too, like welfare, or NASA, or the
teaching of evolution in public schools or whatever. Is that how you want
it to work, everybody gets to say what their taxes can or cannot be used
for, or were you thinking of just people who agree with you?
There's this representative democracy thing where the people elect
representatives who will spend the taxes and if the people don't like how
it's done they can vote out the reps and choose someone else, but if you
want every last taxpayer to have micro-management say over the whole deal
you have some explaining to do about how that's gonna work.
>> There's this representative democracy thing where the people elect
>> representatives who will spend the taxes and if the people don't like how
>> it's done they can vote out the reps and choose someone.
>
> That's an adorable idea. And we tried it. It's morphed into something
> unrecognizable.
Then all you have to do is explain your superior system.
> Our representatives are debating a $140 billion war "emergency
> spending bill" that includes $20 million for Mormon cricket
> eradication? What? How'd that get in there?
>
> Who's ready for version 2? By show of hands.
So if your car has a flat tire or a dead battery you get rid of the whole
thing instead of fixing what's wrong?
> That's an adorable idea. And we tried it. It's morphed into something
> unrecognizable.
>
> Our representatives are debating a $140 billion war "emergency
> spending bill" that includes $20 million for Mormon cricket
> eradication? What? How'd that get in there?
>
> Who's ready for version 2? By show of hands.
The interesting thing is how this debate has been turned on its head.
Until this administration, war and military spending (especially when we
know it will be needed in advance as opposed to some actual emergency that
just popped up) has always been included in the regular budget and spent via
the annual defense appropriations bill. This war is being financed off
budget, not subject to normal budget procedures or rules (like finding
offsets for new spending). Its not like they didn't know last year that
money would be needed this year. This has been going on for four years and
this massive spending is still not included in the budget or in the defense
appropriations bill.
Until this administration the annual supplemental emergency appropriations
bill existed exactly to fund things like Mormon cricket eradication, drought
relief, crop failure assistance, hurricane relief, earthquake relief, flood
relief, etc. A lot of it was always pork, but the ostensible purpose of
this annual bill is to fund actual emergency spending for unforseen
disasters in the United States.
Now we hear the right wing whining about spending that has always been the
ostensible SOLE PURPOSE of this bill being included in the bill where it
rightly belongs! They act as if the emergency supplemental appropriations
bill is supposed to be for war funding and that relief from domestic
disasters belongs somewhere else.
Nothing could be further from the truth. The truth is that this annual bill
exists to fund relief from domestic disasters and that war and military
spending belongs in the on-budget defense appropriations bill. It was the
Bush administration that corrupted the entire concept of the bill and they
are using it to spend hundreds of billions of dollars for inappropriate
purposes. This is the domestic disaster / pork bill!
Even if we leave that argument aside, I have to say its bizarre to complain
about 20 million to eradicate a plague of locusts and a hundred million to
fund rural schools when they're blowing yet another hundred BILLION on a
failed war we will never win.
OR
Argue about the specific projects or the amounts being spent, but this bill
is where this spending belongs. Its the SOLE PURPOSE of the annual
supplemental emergency appropriations bill.
Its the military spending in this bill that is inappropriate and belongs
somewhere else. And that's the vast majority of spending in the bill!
OR
I would prefer to have election day moved to April 16th or tax day moved to
the day before election day.
Realixticly both of my ideas have about the same chance of success as yours
does, which is exactly zero
Scot
It is way more trouble than it is worth. After a few years of dodging
and lawyering you end up paying the bill anyway and find out that the
government doesn't care or notice why you didn't pay, they just start
the process of making you pay. You'd be better off moving out of the
country and investing in your adopted homeland. They do notice that.
You know, if you put away your mean/sarcastic streak for a moment, maybe
that's not such a bad idea. Have a checklist of things, and you check "yes"
or "no" indicating if you want your tax money used that way. Not that the
leaders would then follow the answers given, but it sure would be an
interesting and probably fairly accurate poll of the American taxpayer, if
you could somehow get a high rate of compliance (3% off your taxes if you
fill out the survey).
Stupid unfounded war...NO
NASA...yes, within limits
Welfare...sure, just be sure it's done right
Free money for people living in Orange County CA named Steve who are
Grateful Dead fans....YES
Steve
So if our elected numbnuts (in my case the great, drug addled mind of
Patches Kennedy) are going to ignore it, why are we gonna do this? To
make us feel better?
Ain't gonna work, Steve.
> Stupid unfounded war...NO
> NASA...yes, within limits
> Welfare...sure, just be sure it's done right
> Free money for people living in Orange County CA named Steve who are
> Grateful Dead fans....YES
That last one is gonna get you audited for sure.
Mark
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You think Halliburton is gonna pay it's fair share this year?
Hmmmm... maybe I could get a house by their home office!
> Free money for people living in Orange County CA named Steve who are
> Grateful Dead fans....YES
Orange County here I come!
One of the US Government's biggest accounting firms opened a satellite
office in the Virgin Islands, they then made that office their
headquarters and stopped paying taxes on the money they were making from
the US government. I'm sure if you looked into it you will find that
many Halliburton employees are listed as working overseas and don't pay
income taxes on their first $100,000. You need to be really rich to
evade taxes.
HTH,
John H.
The idea that some individual amount of taxes is spent on some
specific thing is kind of silly, isn't it? The government takes all
the money in and puts it in a big bucket and then distributes it out.
Not to mention that by the time you're filling out your 1040 the
money's already been spent by the govenrment.
Joe
>
> Not to mention that by the time you're filling out your 1040 the
> money's already been spent by the govenrment.
Hell - in the case of a lot of people on this forum (not me) it was
spent before you were born.
Gladys.
We get 5%? That's more than I thought.