Sheryl Crow
Dave Kelly
I just downloaded a GREAT fm from '99
Sure...their are lots of warmed over Stones riffs...
and the lyrics are somewhat mundane....
but godDAMN can this bitch SANG!
S-A-N-G!
You feel me?
I realise I MIGHT be in danger of getting my
"hip card" pulled over this matter....but that OK....
I'm all about the music.
Steve Terry
"Dave Kelly" <swee...@pacbell.net> wrote in message:
Wasn't she on the Loose From the Axis compilation?
Dave Kelly
"Steve Terry" <ruthanne@TAKE_OFFccrtc.com> wrote in message
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> Wasn't she on the Loose From the Axis compilation?
Uh yeah....nice of you to take the time out
from ya schedule, there Terry....I KNOW it's
a busy time in Iowa....what with the leap into
daylight savings time and all......yer gonna have
to get up an hour earlier to bale the hay...or whatEVER
it is you people do....the Shaker community has always
been a mystery to me...and most civilized folks in
this country...you've seemed to have veered off the path
I assume...what with the Dead discs and the "fire water"
discussions you chime in on....
I occasionally find it quaint.
But you're hanging by a thread in this MF'in chatgroup....
make NO mistake about it, my friend!
Anyone else like Sheryl Crow?
Richard Morris
I guess if you lost your hip card, you would have to eat Crow.
R.
John Doherty
"Dave Kelly" <swee...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Any fans here?
> I just downloaded a GREAT fm from '99
> Sure...their are lots of warmed over Stones riffs...
But she warms 'em over good, or she used to.
the last two records were a dissapointment, after a good 3 or 4 in a
row.
Neil X.
>
> Anyone else like Sheryl Crow?
Yeha, me and the missus have been known to attend a Sheryl show or
two. First 3 albums were a lot of fun. Nothing groundbreaking, but
simply good rock and roll. That video of "All I Want to Do," Sheryl's
lips on that video were, well, even m'lady was turned on.........
Peace,
Neil X.
Dave Kelly
"Neil X." <nei...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>well, even m'lady was turned on.........
>
> Peace,
> Neil X.
<Sweating profusely>
Yeah...Sheryl....she plays rock n' roll.....
I LIKE that music...<wiping brow>...
Soo....Abbey digs Sheryl, Huh.....
LP
Yes - She has had a very good run over the years, and somehow manages
to write lyrics that do not sound like regurgitated cliches. Also,
for a woman my age, she is relatively *hot*.
LP
Neil X.
> Soo....Abbey digs Sheryl, Huh.....
Indeed she does. OTOH, Abby really hates it when people don't spell
her name right.......
Peace,
Neil X.
Dave Kelly
> Indeed she does. OTOH, Abby really hates it when people don't spell
> her name right.......
Oh F'in GREAT!....my fantasy deflates over Linguistics?
Thanks, X!....whats next?....
I need to know my penis pump really doesn't work?
Disgusted.
Lfh
wrote:
> I guess if you lost your hip card, you would have to eat Crow.
I'm just presumptuous enough to imagine that this is a trade Sweets
would be willing to make. I know I would.
Just sayin'.
Fred
Rick Wolfish
> I realise I MIGHT be in danger of getting my
> "hip card" pulled over this matter....but that OK....
> I'm all about the music.
Don't worry about us not thinking you are hip, now go back to your
favorite Bee Gees album :)
Sherry in Vermont
>>
>> Anyone else like Sheryl Crow?
I do. I saw her when she played Hunter Park - a teeny tiny venue in
Manchester, Vermont. I think it holds 800 or so max - in summer they
have concerts there, in winter it's the skating rink. It was a great
show, and we thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. :)
Sherry in Vermont
Avant Grape
Newsflash: Crow doesn't write all of her own lyrics or songs.
-JC
Joker
My brother used to rant against Crow back when her first album came
out. He claimed she had plagurized (sp?) or taken writing credits for
some tunes on the first album from somebody in her back-up band, or an
ex-lover or something. My brother often ranted about stuff I didn't
care much for, like Sheryl Crow pop music.
Anyone know anything about this?
Larry
Avant Grape
Not just here first album. I know quite a bit, since one of my buddies
(there I go again!) co-wrote a number of her tunes. But one merely read
the songwriting credits to see that there are are a lot of writers
involved...some of the most talented in the business I might add.
Unfortunately some folks got screwed during her first two-album heyday.
Sheryl is an amazing business woman, but her artistic creativity is
overplayed in the media IMO. But she knows how to play the game and
play it well. No doubt about it. But I have to say, based on what I
know, she hasn't treated her peers and those who helped her make it to
the top very well. So my respect for her is pretty low.
-JC
Joker
Hey! Now you sound just like my brother. But not the Scientologist
one, the intelligent one...
Larry
Dave Kelly
"Avant Grape" <avant...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Not just here first album. I know quite a bit, since one of my buddies
> (there I go again!) co-wrote a number of her tunes. But one merely read
> the songwriting credits to see that there are are a lot of writers
> involved...some of the most talented in the business I might add.
> Unfortunately some folks got screwed during her first two-album heyday.
> -JC
<LOL>
there he goes AGAIN!....this Grape has a LOT of "buddies"
ANYways....
I'm not even remotely cogent of who she fucked over...
but isn't it common knowledge she wrote/writes with
other people?...the whole "tuesday night music club" thing...
I dont own any of her records..and never really liked much
of the stuff I've heard on the radio....I'm not even sure why
I downloaded this show....but I dig it...she can really belt
it out. Some songwriters mighta gotten fucked over..
who knows.
( I've always been under the impression the music biz was rather
cut throat)
Carlisle
> "Avant Grape" <avantgr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
And I also remember an interview with Sheryl Crow about 9 years ago or
so where she mentions that she had written songs for more famous
female performers. She wouldn't name names, of course. The music
business is as cut throat/competitive as just about anything else out
there, I would imagine as I'm not an insider. Thing is, Sheryl C has
actual song writing & singing talent, personal charisma and lo and
behold she's over 40 plus and still considered a sex symbol! Sorry to
say it Grape, but...You go girl!!!
cheers,
Carrie
Julia
Yusuf's "The First Cut Is the Deepest".
Carlisle
> Her live show got better over time. I think she does the best version of
> Yusuf's "The First Cut Is the Deepest".
When you say Yusuf, do you mean Cat Stevens? I'm a product of the
70's, Julia. You'll have to excuse me. Btw, I love the artist..I don't
really care what he calls himself. One of my favorite songs of all
times is "On The Road to Find Out".
Carrie
Julia
Hey Carrie, yep - that's Cat Stevens. Good song you mentioned there. So
many questions, so little answers. And still life goes on.
Carlisle
Yes, indeed. On another music forum, a question was asked "What song
is the story of your life?" and off the top of my head I posted--
Both Sides Now--Joni Mitchell
On The Road To Find Out--Cat Stevens
Closer To Fine--the Indigo Girls
I guess I exceeded the limit! ;-)
Steve Terry
"Carlisle" <carri...@insightbb.com> wrote in message:
> Yes, indeed. On another music forum, a question was asked "What song
> is the story of your life?" and off the top of my head I posted--
> Both Sides Now--Joni Mitchell
> On The Road To Find Out--Cat Stevens
> Closer To Fine--the Indigo Girls
>
> I guess I exceeded the limit! ;-)
You left off Edie Brickell's "What I Am" and Popeye's "I Yam What I Yam".
Avant Grape
Yawn.
Fortunately, those who have sued her have won royalty rights. Like I
said, her talent is highly overrated. Marketing does work though.
-JC
Avant Grape
A Scientologist brother? Oh boy....
-JC
LP
>
> - Show quoted text -
Since I own none of her records, I did not know about the songwriting
credits. I only know what I hear played on radio/ video. Whoever
writes for her does a good job as pop music goes - I'd rather listen
to her over 95% of today's "pop" artists.
LP
Carlisle
>
> - Show quoted text -
Yeah, but *supposedly* she's a cunt. Hence the only proper thing to do
is to shun and ignore this vicious monster. Sounds to me like Sheryl
Crow is a little snake in the grass. Let's hate her together. <###>
LP
I got a snake for *HER* grass........
thakyavermuch.
I'll be here all week.
LP
Mike Healy
>
> - Show quoted text -
She was about to be dropped because she couldn't come up with a
good first album. Her boyfriend and his friends had a songwriting
club that wrote (and played) the songs on her first album, hence
the title (Tuesday Night Songwriting Club or something like that).
As soon as it was a success, the record company dumped all
the guys who had written and played on the songs. The boyfriend
died soon after while hanging himself while mastubating.
After it was a hit, Sheryl Crow was asked by a dj in Vegas
I think if she had written "Leaving Las Vegas" as an
autobiographical song. She said yes, implying that she
had written it when she hadn't.
I thought that was a shitty thing to do, but I got over it
after a while.
Mike
LP
The movie "Harold And Maude" is a must for any fan of Cat Stevens or
whatever the hell his name is now.
LP
Frank KW
news:1173715035....@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com...
> Since I own none of her records, I did not know about the songwriting
> credits.
Her first album (Tuesday Night Music Club) was written by Sheryl Crow with
the Tuesday Music Collective, a bunch of musicians/songwriters from L.A.
Well, the role of TMC was important, but, honestly, there was also a bit
of marketing behind the facade.
Was it a real group effort? Not entirely.
In fact, only "Leaving Las Vegas" and "Strong Enough" represent the
true collaborative nature of the early Tuesday Music Collective sessions.
For instance, "Run Baby Run" wasn't TMC. That song came out from a
session with Sheryl Crow, David Baerwald and Bill Bottrell (the producer).
Again, "What I Can Do For You" was a song pre-TMC sessions, composed
separately by Sheryl and David Baerwald in Venice Beach, and completed at
Toad Hall Studio (Pasadena) along with Mr. Bottrell. "I Shall Believe" and
"Can't Cry Anymore" were originated by Sheryl and then completed by her and
Bill. And so on...
Bill Bottrell remarks : "on a lot of songs, Sheryl and I played all of the
instruments, and that goes against the myth". "I mean, the album did grow
out of the musicians meeting once a week, but man, there were just months
and months of sweat put me, trying to choose the songs, put them in an
order, and mix them" ("No fool to this game" - R. Buskin - p. 95)
So it's very difficult to establish the exact % of lyrics written by Sheryl
Crow on this record.
Generally, she tend to write more introspective and less radio-friendly
tunes when she is alone. Her co-written works are definitely more
commercial.
**************************************************
On Sheryl Crow (her second record - 1996) a bunch of songs were penned
entirely by Crow ("Home", "Redemption Day", "Love is a Good Thing",
"Ordinary Morning"), a couple by her and Bill Bottrell ("Maybe Angels",
"Hard to Make a Stand") and some others in conjunction with Jeff Trott
("Sweet Rosalyn", "Oh Marie" "If It Makes You Happy", "A Change", "Everyday
is a Winding Road", "The Book").
Instrumental credits (Sheryl Crow): acoustic guitar, bass, piano, electric
guitar, harmonium, keyboards, Hammond organ, Wurlitzer, Moog bass
**************************************************
The Globe Session (1998) is probably her most intimate album. She is the
only author of seven tracks out twelve (Riverwide, Am I Getting Through,
Anything But Down, The Difficult Kind, Crash and Burn, Subway Ride and
Members Only). Four songs were co-wrote by her and Jeff Trott (My Favorite
Mistake, There Goes the Neighborhood, Maybe That's Something, It Don't
Hurt), while "Mississippi" was a gift from Bob Dylan ;)
TGS songwriting legal credits:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/8439/theglobesessioncreditswi6.jpg
Instrumental credits (Sheryl Crow): organ, acoustic guitar, bass, harmonica,
percussion, electric guitar, keyboards, Hammond organ, tambourine, clavinet,
12 string guitar, National steel guitar, Wurlitzer, electric 12 string
guitar, acoustic 12 string guitar
**************************************************
During that era (1998/99), she also penned other new songs ("Carolina"
(Crow), "In Need" (Crow), "You always get your way" (Crow), "Resuscitation"
(Crow)) and part of the soundtrack of "Dill Scallion", a little known indie
movie directed in 1998 by Jordan Brady.
Here you can find the credits for "Dill Scallion":
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2589/dillscallioncreditsgx6.jpg
**************************************************
Credits of "C'mon, C'mon" (2002)
"Safe And Sound" (Crow)
"C'mon, C'mon" (Crow)
"Over You" (Crow)
"It's Only Love" (Crow)
"Weather Channel" (Crow)
"Missing" (Crow)
"I Want You" (Crow)
"Steve McQueen" (Crow, Shanks)
"Soak Up The Sun" (Crow, Trott)
"You're An Original" (Crow, Trott)
"It's So Easy" (Sheryl Crow, Kathryn Crow) [1]
"Lucky Kid" (Crow, Trott)
"Diamond Road" (Crow, Frederiksen)
"Hole In My Pocket" (Crow, Stroud) [2]
"Abilene" (Crow, Trott)
[1] Sheryl Crow's sister
[2] Sheryl Crow's lead guitarist
Instrumental credits (Sheryl Crow): acoustic guitar, bass, piano,
accordion, electric guitar, keyboards, Hammond organ, Fender Rhodes,
Wurlitzer, Moog bass, tambo drums, Moroccan drum
**************************************************
Credits of her latest album,"Wildflower" (2005)
"Wildflower" (Crow)
"I Know Why" (Crow)
"Perfect Lie" (Crow)
"Always on Your Side" (Crow)
"Good Is Good" (Crow, Trott)
"Chances Are" (Crow, Trott)
"Lifetimes" (Crow, Trott)
"Letter to God" (Crow, Trott)
"Live It Up" (Crow, Trott)
"I Don't Wanna Know" (Crow, Trott)
"Where Has All the Love Gone" (Crow, Trott)
Instrumental credits (Sheryl Crow): Bass, Acoustic Guitar, Keyboards,
Piano, Wurlitzer
**************************************************
Most recent songs:
2006 - "Real Gone" (Disney's Cars soundtrack) (Crow/Shanks)
2006 - "Try Not to Remember" (Home of the Brave soundtrack) (Crow)
**************************************************
Collaborations with other artists (songwriting/vocals):
"Go Amanda" (Steve Earle/Sheryl Crow)
Album: Jerusalem
Artist: Steve Earle
"It's Only Love" (Crow)
Album: Trouble in Shangri La
Artist: Stevie Nicks
"Father Sun" (Crow)
Album: Tell Me Why
Artist: Wynonna Judd
"All Kinds of People"
Album: Wildest Dream
Artist: Tina Turner
"Picture" (Kid Rock/Sheryl Crow)
Album: Cocky
Artist: Kid Rock
"Run off to L.A." (Kid Rock/Sheryl Crow)
Album: Kid Rock
Artist: Kid Rock
"Favorite Year" (Crow/Maines/Maguire)
Album: Taking the Long Way
Artist: Dixie Chicks
"Love You Blind" (Crow/Jay)
Artist: Celin Dion
"Near Me" (Crow/Jay)
Artist: Jana
"Limbo" (Crow)
Album: Verde Rosso e Blu
Artist: Irene Grandi
"Roll me back in time" (Crow/Shanks)
Artist: Sarah Evans
"Whatever It Takes" (Crow/Osbourne/Shanks)
Artist: SheDaisy
"Healing Side" (Crow/Osbourne/Shanks)
Artist: SheDaisy
Note: incomplete list
*******************************************
Collaborations with other artists (music/vocals):
"Mary of the Wild Moor"
Album: American III: the Solitary Man
Artist: Johnny Cash
Sheryl Crow on accordion
"Fields of Diamonds"
Album: American III: the Solitary Man
Artist: Johnny Cash
Vocals by Sheryl Crow
"Wayfaring Stranger"
Album: American III: the Solitary Man
Artist: Johnny Cash
Sheryl Crow on accordion
Album: Trouble in Shangri La
Artist: Stevie Nicks
Guitar, Bass and vocals on various tracks
"Picture"
Album: Cocky
Artist: Kid Rock
Sheryl on bass, 12 string guitar and vocals
"Flesh and Blood"
Album: Kindred Spirits: A Tribute to the Music of Johnny Cash
Vocals and Accordion by Sheryl Crow
"Baby Knows"
Album: Rave Un2 the joy fantastic
Artist: Prince
Vocals and harmonica by Sheryl Crow
"Honest Mistake"
Album: Other Songs
Artist: Ron Sexsmith
Sheryl Crow on accordion
"Lady, Your Roof Brings Me Down"
Album: 12 Bar Blues
Artist: Scott Weiland
Sheryl Crow on accordion
"Into the Sunset"
Album: One All
Artist: Neil Finn
Sheryl Crow on accordion
Note: incomplete list
bye
Frank,
Germany
Avant Grape
LOL
So who really wrote the lyrics and music to "Everyday is a Winding
Road"? Has she been involved in any lawsuits pertaining to songwriting
credits and/or royalty issues in the past? Has she lost any of those
lawsuits? Lastly, why did you not mention some of the other songwriters
involved on the second album? There were some curious omissions. Were
you at any of those sessions? Just curious. Fanboy or PR agent?
-The Grape
Avant Grape
Many of the same crew were actually involved on the second album as
well. Of course, Sheryl masterminded production credit and tried to
cheat some of the songwriters out of their royalties as well. Again,
her talent IMO is vastly overrated. Not that she doesn't have talent at
all, but there's talent all around this globe after all that surpasses
her own. Frankly, she's an industry product at this point in her
career. But she's got the power to bring in a producer or songwriter,
ask for their ideas and then get rid of them before a project even
starts. Smart. She learns from the best talent in the industry, some
might say she steals ideas. Even so, her work of later is entirely
pedestrian.
Her PR agent gets the last word.
-JC
Frank KW
news:1173717655.9...@t69g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
> Her boyfriend and his friends had a songwriting
> club that wrote (and played) the songs on her first album, hence
> the title (Tuesday Night Songwriting Club or something like that).
"club that co-wrote (and co-played)"
> As soon as it was a success, the record company dumped all
> the guys who had written and played on the songs.
"who had co-written and co-played on the songs"
She's credited as a lyricist and a musician (guitar and piano).
> The boyfriend
> died soon after while hanging himself while mastubating.
True. In may 1996.
> After it was a hit, Sheryl Crow was asked by a dj in Vegas
> I think if she had written "Leaving Las Vegas" as an
> autobiographical song. She said yes, implying that she
> had written it when she hadn't.
Not exactly. It was her first national tv appearances at the Late Show.
Having performed the number, she sat down with the host for the obligatory 2
minute interview that closes out the show: "hey, great song! What's it
about?" That kind of thing. In this case, Letterman asked if "leaving las
vegas" was autobiograraphical. "Yes," came the answer, befire Sheryl then
compounded the white lie by saying: "I've never been to Las Vegas. I wrote
it about Los Angeles. It's really metaphorical"
Bye
Frank,
Germany
Frank KW
> It's her PR agent again!
>
> LOL
PR? You're in the wrong way.
> So who really wrote the lyrics and music to "Everyday is a Winding Road"?
Crow/Trott/McLeod
> Has she been involved in any lawsuits pertaining to songwriting
> credits and/or royalty issues in the past? Has she lost any of those
> lawsuits?
Nope.
> Lastly, why did you not mention some of the other songwriters
> involved on the second album? There were some curious omissions.
Uh, right, sorry, i forgot her bandmates Todd Wolfe and RS Bryan on "Hard to
make a Stand".
> Fanboy or PR agent?
History consultant, and you?
PS: the quoting, geeez!
Bye
Frank
Avant Grape
> "Avant Grape" <avant...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:lmgJh.118$rj1...@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>
>>It's her PR agent again!
>>
>>LOL
>
>
> PR? You're in the wrong way.
>
>
>>So who really wrote the lyrics and music to "Everyday is a Winding Road"?
>
>
> Crow/Trott/McLeod
Where does it say there who wrote what?
>>Has she been involved in any lawsuits pertaining to songwriting
>>credits and/or royalty issues in the past? Has she lost any of those
>>lawsuits?
>
>
> Nope.
You're absolutely wrong.
-JC
Frank KW
> Where does it say there who wrote what?
Hint: sleeve notes ;)
Anyway, FYI "Everyday is a Winding Road" and "A Change Would Do You Good"
were both conceived by Sheryl Crow, Jeff Trott and Brian MacLeod at the
MacLeod's cabin located in the Gold Country region (Northern California). I
think it was the spring/summer of 1995 or so.
If you don't believe me, just ask to Brian MacLeod. You can reach him at:
http://www.myspace.com/brianmacleod
> You're absolutely wrong.
Ok, so tell me - without polemical intentions - where is the proof that
Sheryl Crow was legally sued for credits/royalties issues? I mean, show me
some proof (valid sources, not allegations or "national enquirer stuff"),
some evidence, document, record.
Bye
Frank
Carlisle
> "Avant Grape" <avantgr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
I did a Google search--Sheryl Crow sued, lawsuit, royalties..nothing
comes up but tabloid stuff about her love life! Maybe JC knows things
we just aren't privy to. I mean ya know, he's got buddies, his wife is
somehow in the business, etc...Just know that he's never been
absolutely wrong in his life, knows his organic wine and is friends
with cool righteous people. He'll have you for breakfast, as long as
there are no transfats involved.
Bye? Oh Frank, we hardly knew ye!
Carrie
Avant Grape
Now that would be mighty on my part, wouldn't it? Not everything is as
it seems. Your confidence in what you know will remain. But the point
I made remains. Sheryl's songwriting talent is vastly overrated. She's
a snake in the grass as well. That'll stand as my opinion. No need to
convince someone who spends so much of their time researching market
driven blabber regarding an artist that they obviously are sickly
passionate about.
-JC
Avant Grape
> On Mar 13, 6:48 am, "Frank KW" <f...@sbcnospamn.et> wrote:
>
>>"Avant Grape" <avantgr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>
>>news:EqnJh.14565$bb1....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>>
>>>Where does it say there who wrote what?
>>
>>Hint: sleeve notes ;)
>>
>>Anyway, FYI "Everyday is a Winding Road" and "A Change Would Do You Good"
>>were both conceived by Sheryl Crow, Jeff Trott and Brian MacLeod at the
>>MacLeod's cabin located in the Gold Country region (Northern California). I
>>think it was the spring/summer of 1995 or so.
>>
>>If you don't believe me, just ask to Brian MacLeod. You can reach him at:http://www.myspace.com/brianmacleod
>>
>>
>>>You're absolutely wrong.
>>
>>Ok, so tell me - without polemical intentions - where is the proof that
>>Sheryl Crow was legally sued for credits/royalties issues? I mean, show me
>>some proof (valid sources, not allegations or "national enquirer stuff"),
>>some evidence, document, record.
>>
>>Bye
>>Frank
>
>
> I did a Google search--Sheryl Crow sued, lawsuit, royalties..nothing
> comes up but tabloid stuff about her love life! Maybe JC knows things
> we just aren't privy to. I mean ya know, he's got buddies, his wife is
> somehow in the business, etc...
Just know that he's never been
> absolutely wrong in his life,
You just can't help yourself, can you? This is why you've lost any
respect you've already had. Get over yourself.
(more below)
>knows his organic wine
If you see "organic wine" on a wine bottle you can be assured it's a
poor quality product. Organic wine can not have sulfites added,
resulting in a wine that spoils easily. Now if it's made with organic
grapes, the wine may indeed be fine. In the wine industry however,
biodynamic is becoming more accepted over organic farming and is the
next step up, both from a marketing standpoint and a quality standpoint,
since most of the wineries going into biodynamic farming have skipped
organic farming all together, specifically because the sulfite issue
dirties the names to knowledgeable wine fanatics, the ones willing to
pay a high price that is.
>and is friends
> with cool righteous people.
Why are you so consistently hung up on class? The friends I keep in the
music industry are of the blue collar variety. Working class musicians
and 9 to 5ers. Some are rich. Some are poor. Some deal with extreme
depression. You really have a distorted view of how other people live
outside of the bible belt.
>He'll have you for breakfast, as long as
> there are no transfats involved.
McDonalds goes beyond transfats. Parents who have their kids eat there
are irresponsible in my view. Doesn't mean I harp on it everyday or
refuse to be friends with those that do. But I'm gonna speak my mind
about it whether you like it or not.
-JC
Avant Grape
> Frank KW wrote:
>
>> "Avant Grape" <avant...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:EqnJh.14565$bb1....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net...
>>
>>
>>> Where does it say there who wrote what?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hint: sleeve notes ;)
>>
>> Anyway, FYI "Everyday is a Winding Road" and "A Change Would Do You Good"
>> were both conceived by Sheryl Crow, Jeff Trott and Brian MacLeod at the
>> MacLeod's cabin located in the Gold Country region (Northern
>> California). I
>> think it was the spring/summer of 1995 or so.
>>
>> If you don't believe me, just ask to Brian MacLeod. You can reach him at:
>> http://www.myspace.com/brianmacleod
>>
>>
>>> You're absolutely wrong.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ok, so tell me - without polemical intentions - where is the proof that
>> Sheryl Crow was legally sued for credits/royalties issues? I mean,
>> show me
>> some proof (valid sources, not allegations or "national enquirer stuff"),
>> some evidence, document, record.
>
>
>
>
> Now that would be mighty
<<insert: stupid/>>
Carlisle
Let's get over ourselves together...;-)
>
> (more below)
>
> >knows his organic wine
>
> If you see "organic wine" on a wine bottle you can be assured it's a
> poor quality product. Organic wine can not have sulfites added,
> resulting in a wine that spoils easily. Now if it's made with organic
> grapes, the wine may indeed be fine. In the wine industry however,
> biodynamic is becoming more accepted over organic farming and is the
> next step up, both from a marketing standpoint and a quality standpoint,
> since most of the wineries going into biodynamic farming have skipped
> organic farming all together, specifically because the sulfite issue
> dirties the names to knowledgeable wine fanatics, the ones willing to
> pay a high price that is.
Not to worry, mang..I take my wine good and pure, perferably with a
hint of berry, chocolate, insecticide. Francis Coppola puts out a good
Syrah. YMMV. (of course)
> >and is friends
> > with cool righteous people.
>
> Why are you so consistently hung up on class? The friends I keep in the
> music industry are of the blue collar variety. Working class musicians
> and 9 to 5ers. Some are rich. Some are poor. Some deal with extreme
> depression. You really have a distorted view of how other people live
> outside of the bible belt.
Hahahaha! And how does any of the above negate cool and righteous.
Settle down, fella!
>
> >He'll have you for breakfast, as long as
> > there are no transfats involved.
>
> McDonalds goes beyond transfats. Parents who have their kids eat there
> are irresponsible in my view. Doesn't mean I harp on it everyday or
> refuse to be friends with those that do. But I'm gonna speak my mind
> about it whether you like it or not.
Did I even mention McDonalds, class or you not speaking your mind?? I
enjoy an occasional happy meal. I'm just so...bible belt, I guess.
What I'm amazed over is that you basically accused Sheryl Crow of
fucking people over, getting sued, losing and there is no proof out
there. Poof! So let's change the subject and talk about my personality
quirks. Interesting.
"Was it for this my life I sought?"
Joe
> McDonalds goes beyond transfats. Parents who have their kids eat there
> are irresponsible in my view.
News at 11: Parents who hate their children and want them
dead-by-poison-burger.
Ain't America Obese?
Dave Kelly
"Joe" <jo...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:55o0dlF...@mid.individual.net...
> News at 11: Parents who hate their children and want them
> dead-by-poison-burger.
>
> Ain't America Obese?
* I LOVE to watch how these threads start out as
simple music posts...end eventually wind down
to insults and McDeath Burgers!
You MF'ers crack me UP!
Joe
> * I LOVE to watch how these threads start out as
> simple music posts...end eventually wind down
> to insults and McDeath Burgers!
> You MF'ers crack me UP!
If you think things are funny now, just wait until you meet Geraldine!
She'll be at Golden Gate Park for Ratdog, and at the GAMH for The
Knitters. Will you?
BTW, I saw Sheryl Crow open for the Rolling Stones. Her set was incredibly
forgettable.
Joe
Dave Kelly
> If you think things are funny now, just wait until you meet Geraldine!
* Whats with ALL this "Geraldine" jibba jabbah?
Look here, kid....I've smoked the FINEST weeds
from Bayonne to Baja....you FEEL me?
It's gonna take more than seeds & stems to impress me!
> She'll be at Golden Gate Park for Ratdog, and at the GAMH for The
> Knitters. Will you?
* I dont make plans more than 1-2 days in advance!
If your gonna be there, make sure to bring yer
little bag of shake down to the bandstand...
Umma give it a taste...hell...what do I have to lose?
> Joe
Joe
> * I dont make plans more than 1-2 days in advance!
> If your gonna be there, make sure to bring yer
> little bag of shake down to the bandstand...
> Umma give it a taste...hell...what do I have to lose?
Nothing but your mind, maaan.
Joe
Avant Grape
> Did I even mention McDonalds, class or you not speaking your mind??
Your obsession over class is well documented. As far as the issue of
transfats, which YOU brought up, why not find a post where I even talk
about them? Mmmm?
>I
> enjoy an occasional happy meal. I'm just so...bible belt, I guess.
> What I'm amazed over is that you basically accused Sheryl Crow of
> fucking people over, getting sued, losing and there is no proof out
> there.
I don't need to prove anything. Those who trust that I come forth with
believable information will know I'm not bullshitting or at least see my
information as one particular POV based on my own experience. Those who
distrust me will obviously disagree. Proving what I know would bring
names of people I care about into the mix. I don't play that shit.
Poof! So let's change the subject and talk about my personality
> quirks. Interesting.
I think you're the one who injected a personal aside into the mix. Are
you always this lost?
-JC
Richard Morris
"Dave Kelly" <swee...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:zCAJh.6706$yW....@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
Makes you wonder what it would be like to have them all in the same room,
don't it D-Kell? Man, that would be some serious woop.
R.
Joe
> Makes you wonder what it would be like to have them all in the same room,
> don't it D-Kell? Man, that would be some serious woop.
I've been in the same room with at least 3 guys that I argued with, a lot,
before I ever met them: Scot, JC and Frnddvl.
Geraldine turned out to be the great equalizer.
And we all lived happily ever after.
Except for every once in a while, when I have to bitch slap Jeff because
of his rah-rah-guns-are-cool rap. But, you get the idea...
Geraldine = Love and Peace and Ass-Whoopings = One Big Happy RMGD Family
Joe
Avant Grape
>
>>Richard Morris wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Makes you wonder what it would be like to have them all in the same room,
>>>don't it D-Kell? Man, that would be some serious woop.
>>
>>I've been in the same room with at least 3 guys that I argued with, a lot,
>>before I ever met them: Scot, JC and Frnddvl.
Jeff hasn't posted in RMG since the Chargers lost. He's in bad need of
some Geraldine.
-JC
Carlisle
> Carlisle wrote:
> > Did I even mention McDonalds, class or you not speaking your mind??
>
> Your obsession over class is well documented. As far as the issue of
> transfats, which YOU brought up, why not find a post where I even talk
> about them? Mmmm?
Well documented, eh? Who knows what I said about class at some point.
I find your opinion kind of funny for some reason. Maybe you have a
chip on your shoulder about being accused of being an elitist now.
Well don't be if the shoe doesn't fit! Anyway, I typed in JC
Martin...trans fats, {just like I typed in Sheryl
Crow...lawsuits..royalties...cunt}
then there's all that condescending lecturing you've done about "good
parents don't take their kids to McDonalds", no no no! I won't
resurrect any of that jive.
>
> >I
> > enjoy an occasional happy meal. I'm just so...bible belt, I guess.
> > What I'm amazed over is that you basically accused Sheryl Crow of
> > fucking people over, getting sued, losing and there is no proof out
> > there.
>
> I don't need to prove anything. Those who trust that I come forth with
> believable information will know I'm not bullshitting or at least see my
> information as one particular POV based on my own experience. Those who
> distrust me will obviously disagree. Proving what I know would bring
> names of people I care about into the mix. I don't play that shit.
Of course you don't! Just throw accusations out there and let's just
trust you that Sheryl Crow is a vicious little two-timing song-
stealing lawsuit-losing snake in the grass who is beneath contempt.
Correct me if I'm wrong so we can restore Sheryl's reputation. I
always thought she was one of the *good guys*...your allegations have
shook my opinion of her!
>
> Poof! So let's change the subject and talk about my personality
>
> > quirks. Interesting.
>
> I think you're the one who injected a personal aside into the mix. Are
> you always this lost?
>
> -JC
I did. It's was too tempting. I'm sure you can relate.
Enjoy the Geraldine with Joe!
Carrie
Joe
> >
> >> Makes you wonder what it would be like to have them all in the same room,
> >> don't it D-Kell? Man, that would be some serious woop.
> >
> >I've been in the same room with at least 3 guys that I argued with, a lot,
> >before I ever met them: Scot, JC and Frnddvl.
> We've never met... I do enjoy the jousts...
Not for lack of my trying. I offered to let Geraldine kick your ass too,
but you ran away to Florida instead.
Joe
Avant Grape
> On Mar 13, 6:45 pm, Avant Grape <avantgr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Carlisle wrote:
>>
>>>Did I even mention McDonalds, class or you not speaking your mind??
>>
>>Your obsession over class is well documented. As far as the issue of
>>transfats, which YOU brought up, why not find a post where I even talk
>>about them? Mmmm?
>
>
> Well documented, eh? Who knows what I said about class at some point.
> I find your opinion kind of funny for some reason. Maybe you have a
> chip on your shoulder about being accused of being an elitist now.
> Well don't be if the shoe doesn't fit! Anyway, I typed in JC
> Martin...trans fats, {just like I typed in Sheryl
> Crow...lawsuits..royalties...cunt}
Joe was talking about transfats on that particular thread. I was
talking about McDonalds. Provide a quote of me taking someone to task
for eating transfats.
Secondly, you've insinuated that I've called someone a "cunt". Quote me
on that now or I expect an apology.
<snip>
> Correct me if I'm wrong so we can restore Sheryl's reputation. I
> always thought she was one of the *good guys*...your allegations have
> shook my opinion of her!
Maybe you should stay away from hero worship in the first place. People
in the entertainment business are no different from anyone else.
>>Poof! So let's change the subject and talk about my personality
>>
>>
>>>quirks. Interesting.
>>
>>I think you're the one who injected a personal aside into the mix. Are
>>you always this lost?
>>
>>-JC
>
>
> I did. It's was too tempting. I'm sure you can relate.
You really are a lost soul Carrie. I used to feel sorry for you. But
you can't come clean on anything, so it becomes quite a task. What are
you so afraid of that you need to construct such a thick wall around
you? You make up things to seemingly make yourself feel more right...to
the point that you'll even accuse me of calling someone a cunt. Pretty
pathetic and pretty desperate too.
-JC
Avant Grape
> On Mar 13, 6:45 pm, Avant Grape <avantgr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Carlisle wrote:
>>
>>>Did I even mention McDonalds, class or you not speaking your mind??
>>
>>Your obsession over class is well documented. As far as the issue of
>>transfats, which YOU brought up, why not find a post where I even talk
>>about them? Mmmm?
>
>
> Well documented, eh? Who knows what I said about class at some point.
> I find your opinion kind of funny for some reason. Maybe you have a
> chip on your shoulder about being accused of being an elitist now.
> Well don't be if the shoe doesn't fit! Anyway, I typed in JC
> Martin...trans fats, {just like I typed in Sheryl
> Crow...lawsuits..royalties...cunt}
Interesting. The one instance of me calling anyone cunt was my mocking
of leftie for calling you a cunt. You are a joke Carrie. Here I am
defending you, and you're going to call me to task for that? You're the
most dishonest person on this newsgroup without a doubt. Your words
mean nothing. Count me in as another person who has completely written
you off.
Done.
-JC
Carlisle
> Carlisle wrote:
>> On Mar 13, 6:45 pm, Avant Grape <avantgr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Carlisle wrote:
>>>
>>>>Did I even mention McDonalds, class or you not speaking your mind??
>>>
>>>Your obsession over class is well documented. As far as the issue of
>>>transfats, which YOU brought up, why not find a post where I even talk
>>>about them? Mmmm?
>>
>>
>> Well documented, eh? Who knows what I said about class at some point.
>> I find your opinion kind of funny for some reason. Maybe you have a
>> chip on your shoulder about being accused of being an elitist now.
>> Well don't be if the shoe doesn't fit! Anyway, I typed in JC
>> Martin...trans fats, {just like I typed in Sheryl
>> Crow...lawsuits..royalties...cunt}
>
>
> Joe was talking about transfats on that particular thread. I was talking
> about McDonalds. Provide a quote of me taking someone to task for eating
> transfats.
I believe you need to read the Google link I posted. And McDonalds=trans
fats or used to.
Did I say you took anyone to task for eating trans fats per se or that you
just eschew processed foods personally and are proud of it? You sure do have
a thing about McDonalds (and Oprah Winfrey) to the point of hilarity, but if
you read my original post to you, it was not out of line. You're just a tad
prickly.
>
> Secondly, you've insinuated that I've called someone a "cunt". Quote me
> on that now or I expect an apology.
>
>
>
> <snip>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong so we can restore Sheryl's reputation. I
>> always thought she was one of the *good guys*...your allegations have
>> shook my opinion of her!
>
>
>
> Maybe you should stay away from hero worship in the first place. People
> in the entertainment business are no different from anyone else.
I never knew!!! Thank you for informing me of this though it has nary a
thing to do with the topic on hand.
>
>
>
>>>Poof! So let's change the subject and talk about my personality
>>>
>>>
>>>>quirks. Interesting.
>>>
>>>I think you're the one who injected a personal aside into the mix. Are
>>>you always this lost?
>>>
>>>-JC
>>
>>
>> I did. It's was too tempting. I'm sure you can relate.
>
>
>
> You really are a lost soul Carrie. I used to feel sorry for you. But you
> can't come clean on anything, so it becomes quite a task. What are you so
> afraid of that you need to construct such a thick wall around you? You
> make up things to seemingly make yourself feel more right...to the point
> that you'll even accuse me of calling someone a cunt. Pretty pathetic and
> pretty desperate too.
>
> -JC
I never said you called anyone a cunt. (I originally tried to have a laugh
at the things I've been called here.) In fact, you've come out to say you
are above such words because you are an "old soul" although you can be just
as hostile even without such name-calling. Btw, you're deflecting. It
doesn't matter.
Carrie
Avant Grape
>Btw, you're
> deflecting.
LOL
The cruel irony.....
<rhetorical>Just how many pills do you pop per day anyway? </rhetorical>
-JC
Carlisle
You prove my points for me so well.
Thankaverymuch,
CC
Neil X.
>
> Jeff hasn't posted in RMG since the Chargers lost. He's in bad need of
> some Geraldine.
Yeah, he hasn't been around here, but he got on my case bigtime over
in the Patriots newsgroup. Seemed to think I was somehow responsible
for Pats fans that troll the Chargers newsgroup with racist bile.
Thing is, most of the posts he was objecting to were written by a
deranged Colts fan spoofing the screen names of Pats ng
regulars..........
Peace,
Neil X.
Avant Grape
Interesting. He got on my case in the Lakers newsgroup. He called me a
California elitist. This is a guy from San Diego of all places.
-JC
Lfh
Wasn't his thing that you were a *Northern* California elitist, cause
we're all so evolved up here?
Fred
Avant Grape
Maybe.
But is Santa Rosa more evolved than San Diego? Mmmmm. I must ponder
that one.
-JC
Joe
> LOL
> The cruel irony.....
<sarcasm> Obviously, not enough! </sarcasm>
Doctor Joe
ba...@psyber.com
: Any fans here?
: I just downloaded a GREAT fm from '99
: Sure...their are lots of warmed over Stones riffs...
: and the lyrics are somewhat mundane....
: but godDAMN can this bitch SANG!
: S-A-N-G!
: You feel me?
: I realise I MIGHT be in danger of getting my
: "hip card" pulled over this matter....but that OK....
: I'm all about the music.
She's digital good/bad.
Often, I regret buying her CDs. They typically have 1-2 good tracks
on them and the rest is blech!
She has potential but so far, not a whole lot of it has materialized
on her CDs. Too bad.
b.