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Doug Appleyard

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Jul 7, 1992, 12:22:30 PM7/7/92
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just watched "The Grateful Dead Movie" again and noticed a few
things:

1. "eyes of the world" is missing its second verse ("there comes
a redeemer..."). was it editted out or forgotten?
2. bobby bungles "playing" royally - switches lines in the first
verse, then sings the first verse again instead of second.
bobby and donna share a look when he realizes his flub.
3. one of my favorite parts - an early version of a r.m.gdead
flame war, before the dawn of the net. goes something like
this:

Composed Guy is in the lobby discussing the merits of a Dead
show. Several people are listening in, and one of them suddenly
jumps into the discussion. We'll call him Angry Man.

Angry Man: Oh this is fucked up, this deal, making cash out of
everybody - this is the biggest pile of shit I've ever
seen the Dead ever do!
Composed Guy: This film is --
AM: There are 5 nights of this show, man you could have it filmed
one night --
CG: Would you listen to me?
AM: Yeah
CG: This film is nothing more than a record album on film.
AM: Kind of gets in the way of everybody that's here though.
CG: Four or five years from now you're going to be grateful that
this thing was filmed.
AM: Yeah tell me about it.
CG: You are going to pay 4 or 5 dollars to see this film.
AM: I don't know if I'm going to be alive 5 years from now!
CG: Well neither do I but if you're alive --
AM: You're crazy as shit man.
CG: -- you'll be in that theater --
AM: You want to bet money on that?
CG: Yeah.
AM: What's your name, I'll take your address.
CG: My name is John Williams.
AM: John Williams? Sam Hughes.
CG: Hi Sam how ya doing
AM: -- and I'll bet you anything that I will not be at that movie!
Bystander: It's always good to see a real Deadhead around here.
CG: Yeah why are you so uptight, you feel you're being exploited?
AM: yeah
CG: In what way?
AM: Who is going to get royalties for this, like if this little
thing, which there's no way it's going to be in the movie,
but if it is, and there were 5 million people watching this
movie all over the world, and I was in the movie right here,
my time, this is 10 minutes of my time. Say this was all in
the movie, these people being charged, would I get royalties,
would I have a chance? No.
CG: Excuse me Sam --
Previously Uninterested Looking Bystander: SAAAAINT STEEEEEPHEN!
AM: (leaving) You're crazy, man.
PULB: _You're_ crazy.
CG: He's crazy because he does not realize what it's based on -
he wants a residual.
PULB: I hope this movie comes true, really. The Omnipotent Grateful Dead.
CG: Grateful Dead forever!

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Gail Edwards

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Jul 8, 1992, 8:56:18 AM7/8/92
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Doug Appleyard writes:
>just watched "The Grateful Dead Movie" again and noticed a few
>things:
>
>3. one of my favorite parts - an early version of a r.m.gdead
> flame war, before the dawn of the net. goes something like
> this:
>
> Composed Guy is in the lobby discussing the merits of a Dead
> show. Several people are listening in, and one of them suddenly
> jumps into the discussion. We'll call him Angry Man.

Filling in the spaces. I met Angry Man in 1970. Love at 1st sight,
we were together for about 6 years, and we're still good friends.
Last I heard, he was living in England. Quite an unusual person..very
brilliant, but also insane, hot-tempered and reckless. I often
wonder why the Dead decided to include this bizarre scene. Thanks for
the memory Doug:-)

Gail
of the rail

Doug Appleyard

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Jul 16, 1992, 9:40:51 AM7/16/92
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I suppose I have to ask...

Did Angry Man ever pay "four or five dollars" to see the movie?
If so did he honor his bet with Composed Guy?

Curious minds want to know.

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Charles Wolff

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Jul 15, 1992, 6:49:31 PM7/15/92
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Well, come on Gail. Inquiring minds are desperate to know:
did he ever go see the movie? did he like it? did he ever
get any residual checks?

I'm sure it was included precisely because he was so sure it
wouldn't be!

Charles

Gail Edwards

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Jul 17, 1992, 1:17:11 PM7/17/92
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In article <1992Jul15....@phx.mcd.mot.com> cha...@phx.mcd.mot.com (Charles Wolff) writes:
>}Doug Appleyard writes:
>}>just watched "The Grateful Dead Movie" again and noticed a few
>}>things:
>}>
>}>3. one of my favorite parts - an early version of a r.m.gdead
>}> flame war, before the dawn of the net. goes something like
>}> this:
>}>
>}> Composed Guy is in the lobby discussing the merits of a Dead
>}> show. Several people are listening in, and one of them suddenly
>}> jumps into the discussion. We'll call him Angry Man.

[I say I know Angry Man.]

> Well, come on Gail. Inquiring minds are desperate to know:
> did he ever go see the movie? did he like it? did he ever
> get any residual checks?
>
> I'm sure it was included precisely because he was so sure it
> wouldn't be!

As you may remember, Charles, the first time I saw this movie was at
a Nethead party at your house. (Still can't believe how nice y'all
were to feed and entertain the hordes.) When I later mentioned seeing it
to AM, he grudgingly admitted knowing they'd included the scene.
Only God will ever know if he's seen the movie, but it's probably
safe to assume he's not gotten residuals :-) Don't think he saw
the Dead after this, though we used to see Kingfish and Jerry fairly
often in subsequent years, and AM later became a big Tubes fan during
his SF Art Institute period. Keep meaning to ask him if he ever met
Vince.

Gail

Charles Wolff

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Jul 20, 1992, 11:52:52 AM7/20/92
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In article <1992Jul17....@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com> ga...@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards) writes:
>>}>
>>}> Composed Guy is in the lobby discussing the merits of a Dead
>>}> show. Several people are listening in, and one of them suddenly
>>}> jumps into the discussion. We'll call him Angry Man.
>
> [I say I know Angry Man.]
>
>> did he ever go see the movie?
>>
>As you may remember, Charles, the first time I saw this movie was at
>a Nethead party at your house. (Still can't believe how nice y'all
>were to feed and entertain the hordes.)
>
Actually, having seen the movie 3 or 4 times myself, I was in
the next room minding the stack o' decks ( I think we had 8
cassette decks wired together in various configurations that
night ), so I missed the original discusson.

This had to be the best-behaved NetHead gathering in history.
After having warned the neighbors that it might get a little
noisy or run a little late, the highlight of the evening was
everybody crammed on the couch & family room floor watching the
Grateful Dead movie... :-) :-) :-) I had to go around the next
day and tell the neighbors, "Yes, we really did have a party
here last night..."

Here's hoping we can do it again one day...

Beaver...@live.com

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Aug 9, 2020, 5:27:23 PM8/9/20
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Wow, this is fucking crazy. Wonder what Sam thinks of Vince's contribution to the Dead. And of course if he ever paid to see the movie.
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