Brent Mydland's Best Shows
cms79
righteous, with some country vibes in there. I would like to hear
people's opinions on his best shows, songs, etc. I've seen the list in
DeadBase but I would like to see what all you kind folks have to say
about B.M.
P & J Finnerty
"cms79" <cmsch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I love Brent's playing too. IMO Brent really didn't fully come into his own
until around 86-87. In McNally's new book he talks about how the success of
In the Dark really boosted Brent's confidence level-maybe that's when he
made the step to the next level. In any case, by the late '80's Brent has
ditched the plinking of his early days in the band and is contributing a
broad palette of color that really adds to the psychedelic dimension of
their sound. Brent also was probably the best singer the Dead ever had.
After he died songs a lot of songs just never really fully clicked again...
Wm. McLain Causey
Finnerty at sto...@pacbell.net wrote on 8/20/02 5:50 PM:
> --
>
> "cms79" <cmsch...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I am really into the playing style of Mydland. It was funky,
>> righteous, with some country vibes in there. I would like to hear
>> people's opinions on his best shows, songs, etc. I've seen the list in
>> DeadBase but I would like to see what all you kind folks have to say
>> about B.M.
>
Here's a classic, an all-time favorite of mine:
10-03-87 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, Ca. (Sat)
1: Hey Pocky Way, Minglewood, Candyman, Masterpiece, West L. A., Esau, Bird
Song, Music
2: Maggie's Farm> Cumberland> L. L. Rain> Terrapin> Drumz> Other One> Stella
Blue> Throwing Stones> Lovelight E: Mighty Quinn"Addams Family" tuning
before "Masterpiece" - final "Esau"
Brent is in rare form... The Maggie's > Cumberland is indescribable on his
part.
Jperdue4
1st one that popped in my mind was 10-3-87...starts off with a BUTTROCKIN Hey
Pocky Way and Brent smokes the whole show....
pharter
p.
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timhigdogspot
4-21-86, not one of best shows but the NoDrums>maybe you know is some of his
most interesting playing. Two definate shows for a Brent lover.
Tim
buaidh no bas
Wm. McLain Causey
gmcsa...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/20/02 7:09 PM:
> Any show where he didn't sing. The Donna of the '80s.
>
Now that's totally uncalled for. Donna sucked...
First of all, Brent could hit and hold the right note.
Second, I love Brent's voice. He had some killer pipes. My favorite
vocalist in Dead history, outside of Jerry.
Tom Donaldson
\ 4-21-86, not one of best shows but the NoDrums>maybe you know is
\ some of his most interesting playing.
If by "interesting" you mean "drunken bitter rage" then you are
right. Billy Cobham was backstage waiting to sit in on the drums
and Brent's alcohol-fueled ramble/refusal to leave the stage was
definately a low point in his career with the Dead. Egads!!
have a positive day, whut th' hell!
TD
--
Once I wept for I had no shoes. Then I came across a
man who had no feet, so I took his shoes. I mean, it's
not like he really needed them.
- Jack Handey
GrtflMark
...I guess I thought Brent was a hell of breath of fresh air and a very quick
influence that changed the direction of the band right after he joined - so my
favorite show with Brent is 12/11/79....he rocked the crap out of the house,
made the vocals work like I'd never heard them, and they introduced a whole new
reading of "NFA" - thanks to his influence on its sound....fabulous show that
Dick's Picks has missed - maybe because it's in K.C. and not the east or west
coasts....
...they had a lot of good nights there....
badhat
"P & J Finnerty" <sto...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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solid and rockin by everyone, esp brent, 89-05-06. its a personal favorite,
so i am probably a bit jaded.
brew ziggins
So, what's it like, being deaf????
--
L. Bruce Higgins \\ lbh2 at cornell dot edu \\ http://Tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu
"Silence is a bridge between worlds" - Robert Fripp
Ben Neuman
> "Wm. McLain Causey" <mclain...@mymacmail.com> wrote:
>
>> in article HMA89.6$Yc.8...@pluto.valpo.edu, pharter at
>> gmcsa...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/20/02 7:09 PM:
>>
>> > Any show where he didn't sing. The Donna of the '80s.
>> >
>> >
>> Now that's totally uncalled for. Donna sucked...
>>
>> First of all, Brent could hit and hold the right note. Second, I love
>> Brent's voice. He had some killer pipes. My favorite vocalist in Dead
>> history, outside of Jerry.
>
> So, what's it like, being deaf????
Seriously. Sure, everyone hates the Donna Howl, but her harmonies were
quite pleasant and almost always were actually in tune, especially after
they tore down the wall of sound so she could actually hear
herself.
Brent, meanwhile, generally sounded like he was severely constipated and
was attempting to take a shit while singing.
william
civic arena and also 3/30/90 at nassau coliseum.
Bob White
"brew ziggins" wrote in message
> So, what's it like, being deaf????
>
> --
I think you're way wrong here Brew. You may not have liked his voice, but
he did sing quite well from a technical perspective (as far as rock singers
go.) He was pretty soulful as well. I can understand if you don't care for
his timbre, but he hit the melodies, and added a lot of depth to the
harmonies.
Bob
P & J Finnerty
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You're talking to someone who last week talked about digging Madonna and
preferring the Monkees to 98% of the Beatles catalog...eclectic I suppose,
but hardly a paradigm of good taste...
TigerStrat
chock full of FAT B-3 and piano chops. I liked the lower-tech Brent a
tiny bit better than post-MIDI, but I always loved his contribution
and still miss him a lot.
There was no "early plinking" with Brent; you must be thinking of
someone else.
timhigdogspot
>
>"timhigdogspot" <slater...@aol.comram2k> wrote
>
>\ 4-21-86, not one of best shows but the NoDrums>maybe you know is
>\ some of his most interesting playing.
>
>If by "interesting" you mean "drunken bitter rage" then you are
>right. Billy Cobham was backstage waiting to sit in on the drums
>and Brent's alcohol-fueled ramble/refusal to leave the stage was
>definately a low point in his career with the Dead. Egads!!
Yes, it was some very emotional playing, I've always enjoyed the unusual in the
Deads music, he is obviously drunk and upset but some great sounding music came
out of it. Another example is a recent show I got 11-2-84, where Bobby is
obviously very high on something and his vioce gets scratchy, some great vocals
come out of this, my favorite sailor/saint.
Tim
buaidh no bas
cedar
wrote:
Agreed. The B3 was the best thing that happened to the blues/R&B
material in later years.
Favorite Brent moments:
9/7/85 Red Rocks: The first Hey Jude coda out of Dear Mr Fantasy. This
show was sheer magic through and through, and the way they built up to
the "na-na-na-na's" was one of the most exhilerating moments in my
personal concert history.
7/4/90 Sandstone Amph: Just A Little Light. Jerry and Brent had such a
great connection.... er... I mean, level of communication. My favorite
Brent original.
TJ
Dave
Not as bad as people would think actually. I lost my hearing 2 years
ago to a bout of menengitis. I take my hearing aid out at night
before I go to sleep, and nothing wakes me up. So, not that bad
actually.
--Dave
Dave
> Any show where he didn't sing. The Donna of the '80s.
>
I tend to think of him as the Pigpen of the 80's actually. I like the
bluesy/soul sound his voice could carry. Its not quite the same style
as Pig by far, but a slight resembelance is there if you look close
enough.
This lesson brought to you by the number 2 and the letters IMHO.
--Dave
Jperdue4
was this right after jerrys heroin fueled rambling go nowhere solo?....anger is
a healthy emotion.......:)
Bob White
"cedar" wrote in message
<snip[>
.................. Just A Little Light. Jerry and Brent had such a
> great connection.... er... I mean, level of communication......
<snip>
It took me a second, then I got it. Its funny, but oh so sad and true.
Bob
Dev
really liked it. At this show he did the "Wait a minute!" rap and had
everybody clench their fists real tight next to their heart, then hold
their hands up, open, and "feel it blow away." It brought the house
down, the absolute loudest ovation I ever heard him get.
During the previous show,Buffalo 7/4/89, he stole a verse of "Man
Smart" ("little boy stand on the corner and cry..."). Jerry looked
startled at first, then glanced at Brent and wiped his brow in a
comical way. Great stuff, great times.
Smashmark
7/7/89 jfk stadium philly
3/16/90 capital center -- he was a monster on the bird song >> blow away to
close the first set
chris
Ben Neuman wrote:
Sorry.. but Iam gonna chime in here... Brents voice makes me wanna skip the
song. He sounds like the singer in that band who sang " Love Hurts " ( who was
that ) I never understood why the folk's who like Brents singing dont like
Vinces ? I can't believe the rest of the band liked his singing.
Bill Robinette
> in article gJz89.4610$pw4.22...@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, P & J
> Finnerty at sto...@pacbell.net wrote on 8/20/02 5:50 PM:
>
>
> 10-03-87 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, Ca. (Sat)
> 1: Hey Pocky Way, Minglewood, Candyman, Masterpiece, West L. A., Esau, Bird
> Song, Music
> 2: Maggie's Farm> Cumberland> L. L. Rain> Terrapin> Drumz> Other One> Stella
> Blue> Throwing Stones> Lovelight E: Mighty Quinn"Addams Family" tuning
> before "Masterpiece" - final "Esau"
>
> Brent is in rare form... The Maggie's > Cumberland is indescribable on his
> part.
It's a great one. B&P Offer 3 cd's total. E-mail for details.
Bill
Jeff Lester
}Brent's had strong shows throughout his tenure with the Dead. 80-81 is
}chock full of FAT B-3 and piano chops. I liked the lower-tech Brent a
}tiny bit better than post-MIDI, but I always loved his contribution
}and still miss him a lot.
}
}There was no "early plinking" with Brent; you must be thinking of
}someone else.
In the earliest days he had the Yamaha electric piano and Rhodes to go
with the B3, but in the mid 80s he did all the "piano" type stuff on
a synth (a Kurzweil or Fairlight or something) that had a blinky-bell
sound to it.
-Jeff Lester
Leib Meadvin
> "timhigdogspot" <slater...@aol.comram2k> wrote
>
> \ 4-21-86, not one of best shows but the NoDrums>maybe you know is
> \ some of his most interesting playing.
>
> If by "interesting" you mean "drunken bitter rage" then you are
> right. Billy Cobham was backstage waiting to sit in on the drums
> and Brent's alcohol-fueled ramble/refusal to leave the stage was
> definately a low point in his career with the Dead. Egads!!
>
> have a positive day, whut th' hell!
> TD
I was at this show
and i thought it was incredible
first let me say i saw all those maybe you knows in 83 and i had
always been waiting for it's return
now there's no doubt brent was f'd up that night at bct
but if i go to a show and you expose your soul to me then that's a A+
show in my book
even at the time i know this is a minority view but check out the show
and judge for yourself ( the original poster that is)
btw how about that carousel music during desolation row
and jerry coming to the rescue with gdtrfb
Wm. McLain Causey
wrote on 8/21/02 12:12 PM:
> Sorry.. but Iam gonna chime in here... Brents voice makes me wanna skip the
> song. He sounds like the singer in that band who sang " Love Hurts " ( who was
> that ) I never understood why the folk's who like Brents singing dont like
> Vinces ? I can't believe the rest of the band liked his singing.
>
No need to apologize for "chiming in." I don't see even the slightest
resemblance between Brant's voice and that other guy.
They're called Q-tips, look into em!
peas
Wm. McLain Causey
les...@gandalf.sp.trw.com wrote on 8/21/02 1:25 PM:
I don't think it was a Fairlight, weren't those a bit cumbersome/heavy?
I must say, the only weakness of Mydland to me was an occasional lapse into
synth-cheez.
badhat
as an aside, i was working sound in chicago at subterranean in chicago in
mid july for a thing called funkstock, where all the bands had b3 players.
the friday night show, the promoters roadies didnt show up on time and asked
me to be the 4th person to help carry a b3 up 2 flights of stairs to the
stage. the tube one, not the solid state. did that ever suck. at least i
got paid that weekend.
--
After the last of 16 mounting screws has been removed from an access cover,
it will be discovered that the wrong access cover has been removed.
De La Lastra's Law
cms79
the middle school dance scene. If ANYONE on this discussion list has
never seen the movie Dazed and Confused, please do yourself a favor
and rent it ASAP. It isn't ABOUT High School in 1976. It IS High
School in 1976. From the soundtrack to the clothes to the lifestyle,
you're in a for a nostalgia trip you'll never forget. One of the best
independent films of the 1990's. The director Richard Linklater based
the movie on his experiences growing up in Austin, Texas in the
pre-punk, pre-disco era.
chris <chr...@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3D63CAEB...@earthlink.net>...
chris
"Wm. McLain Causey" wrote:
And your definition of occasional is.........
TigerStrat
> "Wm. McLain Causey" <mclain...@mymacmail.com> wrote in message
> news:B989B2BA.A73A%mclain...@mymacmail.com...
> > in article ak0lvc$1m3s$1...@agate.berkeley.edu, Jeff Lester at
> > les...@gandalf.sp.trw.com wrote on 8/21/02 1:25 PM:
> >
> > > tiger...@yahoo.com (TigerStrat) wrote:
> > >
> > > }Brent's had strong shows throughout his tenure with the Dead. 80-81 is
> > > }chock full of FAT B-3 and piano chops. I liked the lower-tech Brent a
> > > }tiny bit better than post-MIDI, but I always loved his contribution
> > > }and still miss him a lot.
> > > }
> > > }There was no "early plinking" with Brent; you must be thinking of
> > > }someone else.
> > >
> > > In the earliest days he had the Yamaha electric piano and Rhodes to go
> > > with the B3, but in the mid 80s he did all the "piano" type stuff on
> > > a synth (a Kurzweil or Fairlight or something) that had a blinky-bell
> > > sound to it.
> > >
> > > -Jeff Lester
> >
> >
> > I don't think it was a Fairlight, weren't those a bit cumbersome/heavy?
> >
> > I must say, the only weakness of Mydland to me was an occasional lapse
> into
> > synth-cheez.
> >
I always thought Brent had great taste and proficiency with synth
tones. Better than what followed , for sure.
> >
> as opposed to the b3, which is light as a feather... ;)
>
> as an aside, i was working sound in chicago at subterranean in chicago in
> mid july for a thing called funkstock, where all the bands had b3 players.
> the friday night show, the promoters roadies didnt show up on time and asked
> me to be the 4th person to help carry a b3 up 2 flights of stairs to the
> stage. the tube one, not the solid state. did that ever suck. at least i
> got paid that weekend.
375lb....just imagine lifting 90 lb while tied by a two ft rope to 3
others who also have 90lb loads, and you all go up the stairs
together. LOL
I helped lift Melvin Seals' Hammond onto a stage recently....his has
these really neat folding steel legs, so it probably weighed a little
less. Still a beast. Melvin's Melting Pot WAILS!!! MUCH better than
his former "JGB Band"
Chris
09-09-87 Providence Civic Center, Providence, R.I. (Wed)
1: Hey Pocky Way, Jack Straw> West L. A., Masterpiece, FOTD, Cassidy,
Althea, Greatest> Blue Dress> Good Golly> Blue Dress
2: China Cat> I Know You Rider> Playin> China Doll> Drumz> Wheel>
Gimme Some Lovin> Throwing Stones> NFA E: NFA, Mighty Quinn
first "Hey Pocky Way" - first "Blue Dress" - first "Good Golly"
ol...@magi.com
wrote:
The show is on gdlive.com if anyone is interested... I just downloaded
the Drums > Maybe You Know > GDTRFB segment... the drums/keyboard jam
doesn't work but that's partly the fault of the soundboard mix (keys
are way too loud)... Maybe You Know is compelling to say the least,
the pain in Brent's vocals palpable beyound belief... gotta love
Jerry's sense of humour to save Brent with GDTRFB.
Ollie
cms79
never seen the movie Dazed and Confused, please do yourself a favor
and rent it ASAP. It isn't ABOUT High School in 1976. It IS High
School in 1976. From the soundtrack to the clothes to the lifestyle,
you're in a for a nostalgia trip you'll never forget. One of the best
independent films of the 1990's. The director Richard Linklater based
the movie on his experiences growing up in Austin, Texas in the
pre-punk, pre-disco era.
"badhat" <bad...@houseofgoat.com> wrote in message news:<HFZ89.3378$wj.10...@news.uswest.net>...
Ben Neuman
> "Wm. McLain Causey" wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't think it was a Fairlight, weren't those a bit cumbersome/heavy?
>>
>> I must say, the only weakness of Mydland to me was an occasional lapse
>> into synth-cheez.
>
> And your definition of occasional is.........
Once every thirty seconds?
At least he didn't play MIDI flute solos.
Dolphyzap
cmsch...@yahoo.com (cms79) writes:
>The band was Nazareth and that song is in Dazed and Confused during
>the middle school dance scene. If ANYONE on this discussion list has
>never seen the movie Dazed and Confused, please do yourself a favor
>and rent it ASAP. It isn't ABOUT High School in 1976. It IS High
>School in 1976. From the soundtrack to the clothes to the lifestyle,
>you're in a for a nostalgia trip you'll never forget. One of the best
>independent films of the 1990's. The director Richard Linklater based
>the movie on his experiences growing up in Austin, Texas in the
>pre-punk, pre-disco era.
>
I'll second that. I graduated in 1976 and can say without hesitation that i
knew at least a couple of folks exactly like each one of the characters in that
flick. Now if they had only included the DeadHead kid who was looked upon as a
60's-throwback-freak by his bemused stoner buddies I would have seen myself in
the damned thing!
Pat
Peter Wimsey
> Philly Vet Stadium 7/7/89. I had heard Blow Away a couple of times and
> really liked it. At this show he did the "Wait a minute!" rap and had
> everybody clench their fists real tight next to their heart, then hold
> their hands up, open, and "feel it blow away." It brought the house
> down, the absolute loudest ovation I ever heard him get.
yeah - that was pretty cool. I was at that show and maybe it was that
I was a rebellious teenager at the time - but I didn't really like that
particular part of the show - felt too much like a Rawk n' roll concert
- I was thinking "man, I don't wanna hold my hands in the air"....
I definitely think 89-90 Brent is the best in terms of his sound, but
I like listening to his jamming in fall-winter '79 better.
I wouldn't mind tracking down the rest of summer tour '89
though - I only have the first night at RFK on CD.
Nick
Sneakerface
fit the band better than Vince/Bruce or Keith & Donna ever could. I
thought his solo tunes were great. Since a lot of Dead shows have
already been covered (and BTW 10/3/87 set 1 is now on CD and DVD, so
there's no excuse not to pick it up !), I recommend checking out some
of his work with Go Ahead (Brent & Billy with the bass player & singer
from Santana & guitarist from Youngbloods) - they alternate between
Brent/Dead tunes and Santana tunes. I caught them in Newark, DE
10/6/86 and still jam this CD frequently. I also recommend Brent's
Unreleased Solo album.
wjb67
in fall 88 was a really good Brant show...especially the "Never Trust
A Woman"
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Grant Wilcox
during Rider is hot and he seems to get Jerry fired up for the best
Foolish Heart ever!
-Grant
John Metzger
>Philly Vet Stadium 7/7/89. I had heard Blow Away a couple of times and
>really liked it. At this show he did the "Wait a minute!" rap and had
>everybody clench their fists real tight next to their heart, then hold
>their hands up, open, and "feel it blow away." It brought the house
>down, the absolute loudest ovation I ever heard him get.
>
Yes! This was a terrific version of Blow Away from a terrific show --
very laid back atmosphere considering how many people were there and
that the entire venue was changed into a general admission affair at the
last minute.
Jperdue4
i like the one from miami in 89 also....
John Metzger
Jperdue4 wrote:
Yeah, that was a sweet one too.
Matthew H. Wier
I second that. I saw most of the tour that summer, and my buddies and
I were all really impressed with what Brent had been doing. He seemed
really into the music and his enthusiasm rubbed off on the rest of the
band, especially Jerry. In fact, after we got home from the IL shows,
we were all talking about how great Brent sounded, and how we were
really excited about the upcomming East Coast fall tour to see what he
would do next. Unfortunately, the day after we had this conversation
we heard on the news that he was dead...
Another great Brent show that doesn't seem to get its props is 6-30-87
in Toronto (or thereabouts) Canada. After Eyes, the drummers start to
"take over" for their segment, but Bob and Brent won't leave the stage
and engage in some really fierce jamming. I have a really bad cassette
copy of this show, but I'd love to get a better quality version.
-M@
Dev
Loser. I could stand to upgrade my recording of it too (hint hint grovel grovel).
Overall that was a fun time. Kingswood Music Theatre was a pavilion inside Canada's Wonderland, a Hanna-Barbera theme park. I
remember playing miniature golf until the, er, _refreshments_ began to take hold and putt-putt wasn't doing it for me any more. My
friends and I found this hill next to a lake where all the Dead Heads were flopping down before the theatre gates opened. This park
had a big white mountain for a centrepiece. During Fire the sun was setting and casting a bright orange glow on the mountain. Bobby
was gesturing frantically for the crowd to turn around and look at it. One of those fortuitious atmospheric occurrences that
sometimes graced the outdoor shows. (OK kids, lets revive the science vs. magic argument---NOT!)
-Dev
Matthew H. Wier
"John Metzger" <edi...@musicbox-online.com> wrote in message
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> Yes! This was a terrific version of Blow Away from a terrific show --
> very laid back atmosphere considering how many people were there and
> that the entire venue was changed into a general admission affair at the
> last minute.
My personal vote for best Blow Away was from the Dead's set at In Concert
Against AIDS, 5-27-89. After playing a hot Bucket>FOTM (?) there was a lull
as they were tuning up, or whatever. I was fairly close to the stage, over
by Brent's side. Seized by the moment, I shouted, "Blow Away! Blow Away!"
And they played it, "Fist" rap and all. It was the first and only time at a
Dead show that I have ever "requested" a song.
-M@
Dev
"Was it more of a Jerry night or a Bob night?"
"Actually it was Brent night."
"Every night is Brent night these days."
Sho'nuff, he was energy behind the band in 1988-89. Corny "fist rap"
and all. I think even the folks who didn't like him couldn't resist
when he cranked up that B3 on a screaming riff.
John Metzger
Scratchie wrote:
>John Metzger <edi...@musicbox-online.com> wrote:
>:>>
>:>
>:>i like the one from miami in 89 also....
>:>
>: Yeah, that was a sweet one too.
>
>Best Blow Away ever was Pittsburgh April '89.
>
Oh yeah, forgot about that one. That's a good one too. Come to think
of it there were quite a few good Blow Aways. A number of real good
renditions of Just a Little Lights too. Wish they had really taken that
open-ended space in the middle of it and just gone off....was usually
good, but coulda been epic.
JC Martin
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> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:16:38 -0400, brew ziggins wrote:
>
> >> gmcsa...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/20/02 7:09 PM:
> >>
> >> > Any show where he didn't sing. The Donna of the '80s.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Now that's totally uncalled for. Donna sucked...
> >>
> >> First of all, Brent could hit and hold the right note. Second, I love
> >> Brent's voice. He had some killer pipes. My favorite vocalist in Dead
> >> history, outside of Jerry.
> >
> > So, what's it like, being deaf????
>
> Seriously. Sure, everyone hates the Donna Howl, but her harmonies were
> quite pleasant and almost always were actually in tune
This is an amazingly untrue statement. Whether one sings in tune or not is
not a subjective analysis. Donna never once did sing in tune for an entire
song. Not once! Only a die-hard Deadhead would even put up with her. Play
a Dead tape for any non-Deadhead and find me one person that would be
impressed with this lady's vocals. Now you could argue that there are some
great singers who fall flat or sharp. Very true. But back-up singers
aren't usually hired to sing out of tune.
She was awful. I don't care how good her stage presence was. She's ruined
so many great shows, it kills me. If I could remove her voice from every
70's tape I own, I would.
End of rant.
-JC
JC Martin
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>
>
>
>
> Ben Neuman wrote:
>
> >
> > > "Wm. McLain Causey" <mclain...@mymacmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> in article HMA89.6$Yc.8...@pluto.valpo.edu, pharter at
> > >> gmcsa...@hotmail.com wrote on 8/20/02 7:09 PM:
> > >>
> > >> > Any show where he didn't sing. The Donna of the '80s.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> Now that's totally uncalled for. Donna sucked...
> > >>
> > >> First of all, Brent could hit and hold the right note. Second, I love
> > >> Brent's voice. He had some killer pipes. My favorite vocalist in
Dead
> > >> history, outside of Jerry.
> > >
> > > So, what's it like, being deaf????
> >
> > Seriously. Sure, everyone hates the Donna Howl, but her harmonies were
> > they tore down the wall of sound so she could actually hear
> > herself.
> >
> > Brent, meanwhile, generally sounded like he was severely constipated and
> > was attempting to take a shit while singing.
>
> Sorry.. but Iam gonna chime in here... Brents voice makes me wanna skip
the
> song. He sounds like the singer in that band who sang " Love Hurts " ( who
was
> that ) I never understood why the folk's who like Brents singing dont like
> Vinces ? I can't believe the rest of the band liked his singing.
Vince was a thin version of Donna. Brent actually knew how to sing a
harmony. Vince and Donna would consistently use the wrong notes...not even
actually harmonizing half the time. I'll give you this, Brent should have
cut out the Stephenwolf/Gregg Allman imitation and stuck to his Michael
McDonald vocals. His harmonizing was actually quite lovely and blended in
in the background in his initial years, unlike his later years in the band.
-JC
JC Martin
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>
> "brew ziggins" wrote in message
>
> > So, what's it like, being deaf????
> >
> I think you're way wrong here Brew. You may not have liked his voice, but
> he did sing quite well from a technical perspective (as far as rock
singers
> go.) He was pretty soulful as well. I can understand if you don't care for
> his timbre, but he hit the melodies, and added a lot of depth to the
> harmonies.
As opposed to Vince and Donna who often sang two-note harmonies.
-JC
Jperdue4
Donna was/is a great singer, a very much sought after backup singer as a matter
of fact. Shes sung for Elvis and was Jerrys first choice for his backup singer
for the jerry band, she sounded so wonderful mixing with jerrys voice, check it
out, there are many many many great examples of this.(sitting in limbo,A
strange man, I will be with thee, i could go on and on and on).... As for the
dead, try out a version of "sing me back home"...maybe lets see....8-27-72 is
pretty good......As for the jerry band geez just grab one.....Onstage with the
dead she wasnt able to hear herself in the monitors most of the time. The band
said the same thing, besides that, i know folks that say that jerry is a
terrible singer and a third rate geetar player.....so......
JC Martin
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I'm no fan of Vegas Elvis.
>and was Jerrys first choice for his backup singer
> for the jerry band, she sounded so wonderful mixing with jerrys voice,
check it
> out, there are many many many great examples of this.(sitting in limbo,A
> strange man, I will be with thee, i could go on and on and on).... As for
the
> dead, try out a version of "sing me back home"...maybe lets see....8-27-72
is
> pretty good......As for the jerry band geez just grab one.....Onstage with
the
> dead she wasnt able to hear herself in the monitors most of the time.
She doesn't even sing in tune on record. Whatever. Some people find
something to like there. Her voice drives me nuts though!
-JC
Seth Jackson
>Donna was/is a great singer, a very much sought after backup singer as a matter
>of fact. Shes sung for Elvis and was Jerrys first choice for his backup singer
>for the jerry band, she sounded so wonderful mixing with jerrys voice, check it
>out, there are many many many great examples of this.(sitting in limbo,A
>strange man, I will be with thee, i could go on and on and on).... As for the
>dead, try out a version of "sing me back home"...maybe lets see....8-27-72 is
>pretty good
I just listened to Sing Me Back Home from 9/17/72. Donna is way off
key.
- Seth Jackson
Songwriting & Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net
Edwin Hurwitz
"JC Martin" <subs...@NOSPAMearthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > Seriously. Sure, everyone hates the Donna Howl, but her harmonies were
> > quite pleasant and almost always were actually in tune
>
>
> This is an amazingly untrue statement. Whether one sings in tune or not is
> not a subjective analysis. Donna never once did sing in tune for an entire
> song. Not once! Only a die-hard Deadhead would even put up with her. Play
> a Dead tape for any non-Deadhead and find me one person that would be
> impressed with this lady's vocals. Now you could argue that there are some
> great singers who fall flat or sharp. Very true. But back-up singers
> aren't usually hired to sing out of tune.
I saw one show, 5/7/77, where she was in tune for 90% of the show and
that means many complete songs where she was in tune! I also saw a
number of shows where she was out of tune, but there are also many tunes
and shows where Jerry played out of tune.
Edwin
>
> She was awful. I don't care how good her stage presence was. She's ruined
> so many great shows, it kills me. If I could remove her voice from every
> 70's tape I own, I would.
>
> End of rant.
>
> -JC
>
>
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Edwin Hurwitz
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