Best Show of Europe '72 Tour?
sweetbac
fabled 1972 GD European tour...listened to the
5/4 Paris "Dark Star" last nite...fantastic....
I dont think I had heard that before...amazing.
Anyways....what's the opine on the best gig?
It's impossible to top this run of shows.
yoker
4/8 Wembley is one of my favorite shows from this tour, along with the
5/4 Paris show you just mentioned.
Lfh
Steve Terry
Teabagger!!!
dr.narcolepsy
Yeah, I like that 5/4 show, and also . . . what is it? 5/25, 5/26?
Both?
Lfh
Dave you are right about this being the besterest of the besterest of
times. The high water mark, even against the rest of the year, which
is pound for pound the strongerest year of all.
In such a strong batch it would seem hard to find one that stood out
amongst the rest, and I used to think it was impossible to say one
show was the best. No more. As much as I love the tour in general,
5/10 Amsterdam is a cut above the rest. It smokes all the way through,
certainly, but what pushes it over the top is the Other One.
I used to think the 4/8 Dark Star was the ultimate Dead jam, but this
Other One simply dwarfs it, which is something I just didn't think
possible. But the proof is in the listening and this one just gets
better and better the more you hear it.
Jerry is freakishly on for the entire 30+ minutes, both in the fire he
brings and the melodic invention. I don't know what was going on that
night, but I've never ever heard Jer *this* good for this long in an
extended jam. He just has total authority on every note and never
loses his way or coasts. Even the quiet bits are filled with intensity
and fire. Sounds oxymoronic, but if you check it out you will hear
what I am talking about.
Yeah, I know this sounds like hyperbolic overkill, but anyone who
knows me, knows I adore 72 and think it is light years better than
73-74 in every way. But since I found this, all those other 72 killers
I love so much seem "meh" in comparison.
Go run and see:
http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-05-10.sbd.kaplan.1582.sbeok.shnf
Fred
sweetbac
"Lfh" <onetas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message> Freud
Yeah....I just nabbed that.
I felt like a little Dead fix earlier, so I checked
out the AMAZING 4/16/72 Aarhus, Denmark
Truckin ->
The Other One Jam ->
Me & My Uncle ->
The Other One
as much as 73/74 kicked ass, 1972 is the high point of
the whole GD trip...Garcia and Kreutzman were SOO
locked in it aint even funny...I think the nail in the coffin
for the Dead was the return on Mickey Hart...I cant imagine
him trying to navigate the genius that was 1972 Grateful Dead.
I'm glad his pops stole all that loot from the band...it kept Mickey
Mouse safely away from the Deads glory years....
ANYways....where ya bean, Frederique?
You still aint in Omaha, are you?
Lfh
> "Lfh" <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Go run and see:
>
> >http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-05-10.sbd.kaplan.1582.sbeok.shnf
>
> > Freud
>
> Yeah....I just nabbed that.
> I felt like a little Dead fix earlier, so I checked
> out the AMAZING 4/16/72 Aarhus, Denmark
>
> Truckin ->
> The Other One Jam ->
> Me & My Uncle ->
> The Other One
Nice. But wait till ya hear the 5/10, Dave. It leaves that one in the
dust and that is taking nothing away from Aarhaus. How this fucker was
never released boggles. Wear a helmet.
Fred
bzl...@aaool.com
I'm going with 5/26... those 2 sides from Europe 72 with yet another
great Other One weaving its way between and after it all. Great
stuff!
sweetbac
"Lfh" <onetas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Nice. But wait till ya hear the 5/10, Dave. It leaves that one in the
> dust and that is taking nothing away from Aarhaus. Wear a helmet.
> Freud
Just peeped the 5/10 Amsterdam "Other One"....tough call,
but I gotta give the nod to the Denmark gig....I thought it was
a bit more focused and heavier jamming...Amsterdam was
WAY spaced ( thats a GOOD thing)....you cant tell me
the boys weren't on chemicals that nite...that spacy interchange
between jerry/keith was nothing short of amazing.
Look at it this way...if you ever decide to extricate yourself
from whatever witness protection program you've entered,
it will make an interesting discussion over a few pints.
MARKmcmlx
> I'm going with 5/26... those 2 sides from Europe 72 with yet another
> great Other One weaving its way between and after it all. Great
> stuff!
In a similar vein, I randomly (rockbox roulette) selected Good Lovin'
from 5-23 yesterday. I thought I did't like Good Lovin' much, but my
oh my!
3jane.
> >Both?
>
> I'm going with 5/26... those 2 sides from Europe 72 with yet another
> great Other One weaving its way between and after it all. Great
> stuff!
That was my first thought but tbh I'm not familiar with some of the
other shows mentioned-looks like I have some homework to do!
Lfh
It was my thought, along with 4/8, as well. The Truckin' through Dew
is as good a sequence as they ever did, and I was yammering about it
being the best show of the tour on the strength of that and the China
Rider and Playin'.
But then I heard 5/10 and all that stuff about 5/26 is still right as
rain. But this is a hurricane. Let me put it this way. For me, there
are two poles, 72 and eighty-thour, the pre and post-hiatus high-water
marks, for two very different reasons.
It has always been my take that if I wanted the best pure jamming
outside a set frame, 72 is the place to go. But, if I want that punch
you in the face and steal your lunch money power that they could bring
to the more confined structures, then eighty-thour has the most power
and pop per acre.
Now, if I want what 72 offers in the way of more formless jamming,
eighty-thour will not give it to me, because it just isn't there to
the same degree. However, if I want that steal your face crunch of
eighty-thour, it just ain't happening in 72.
And 5/10/72 is the exception that proves the rule, especially the
Other One, because unlike everything else I know of in 72, this fucker
*has* that power. Jer's tone, though still that killer strat sound he
was to abandon in 73, has that eighty-thour grizzly bear maul your
face off bite unlike anything else I can point to in 72.
Fred
Lfh
> "Lfh" <onetaste2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I don't know, Sweets. I'm listening to Aardwark right now, and it's
another nice 72 Other One, but I'm not hearing anything that is
setting it apart from the Others, and Jerry isn't nearly as on as he
is in the 5/10 One. I know what you mean by the way spaced thing with
5/10, as that meltdown is intense, but there's a whole lot more going
on, too. What happened with me is I would listen to it, get blown away
by one part, listen to it again, get blown away by a different part,
and the next time, another part would grab me.
Much as i love all these puppies, there aren't any I would listen to
over and over, but I've listened to this One at least 50 times, prolly
more since I discovered it, and it hasn't gotten stale, but is better
now than when i first got nailed by it. I don't know of anything in
the entire canon like, with a single exception. I'd heartily suggest
another shot at it. Or three.
As for the beers, you know I would love that, but I don't know how I'd
be able to swing it. Life in the witless protection program has sever
limitations as to getting out and about.
Fred
sacha
5-23-5-25. HTH. Listen for the crazy 18 yr old from Canada calling for
UJB!
Lfh
Listened to 5/23 today, and it's a good 'un. It ain't in the same
league as 5/10, though. All these other examples, there are two or
three moments where it really hits in and rises above the norm. That's
a great deal and really all ya can ask from any given jam, but th 5/10
has about two dozen of them littered throughout the entire ride, right
up to the amazing way Jer drops into Me and Bobby McGee. It's that
overload of killer bits that puts this one in a league of its own.
Fred
Michael Turner
Paris - 5/4/72 - is indeed amazing, with a mind-melting Dark Star.
The Good Lovin's jaw-dropping good too.
Also a big fan of 4/7 & 8, 5/26, and Rotterdam.