Fortenberry's Visit to Carolina
Neil X.
posse of ankle biters, but did you really have to take your anger out
on innocent kittens?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/06/16/dnt.kittens.in.road.wsoc
Peace,
Neil X.
gwatts
Didn't you know? Ken's the King of Boors!
mr rapidan
Doesn't he drink the beer of Koongs?
Ken Fortenberry
That wasn't me. I'd a thrown them in the lake.
;-) (for those that need one).
--
Ken Fortenberry
Ken Fortenberry
> watts wrote:
>> Neil X. wrote:
>>> Jeez, Ken I know you're upset about the treatment of Russert by your
>>> posse of ankle biters, but did you really have to take your anger out
>>> on innocent kittens?
>>> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/06/16/dnt.kittens.in.road.wsoc
>>> Peace,
>>
>
> Doesn't he drink the beer of Koongs?
That's the King of Beers I delightfully quaff, you peasants.
Speaking of North Cackalacky, mr rapidan, it's finally safe
to go back. I've not been down there the last two years
because of the drought conditions but from what I hear the
little brookie mountain streams are coming back just fine.
October in Rowan County is sounding pretty nice. I got a new
fishing partner recently and she'll need a mountain trip about
then.
--
Ken Fortenberry
yoker
> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/06/16/dnt.kittens.in.road.wsoc
It wasn't Ken.
Whoever did it is a spineless lowlife immature person who needs to
grow up.
Stop picking on the Ken.
mr rapidan
Yeah, I've seen the picture(s?) of your new puppy, she looks great.
I've only been fishing in NC once, a buddy and I did a week on some of
the "name" mtn streams in/around the park, plus a little roadside
stream near Boone. This was back in 2000. Glad that the streams have
recovered enough for you to make the trip! I know you always have
good adventures, there. Do you think you'll actually get any good
fishing in with the dog along? How do you make that work? Or is she
already well-enough behaved?
For me, it's been day and weekend trips in VA and PA this year, and
that's how it'll continue until late August / early September. I'll
be out in Missoula for a couple weeks and will be hitting my favorite
western streams (so far) - mtn tribs of one of the famous big
rivers. The whole scene really reminds me of mtn brookie streams back
east - the difference is that I'm catching bigger cuts instead of
smaller brookies, and the canyon walls are higher, steeper, and
rockier. Same flies (they're not fussy), same techniques (they're not
fussy), same rod (it's fun catching cuts on my 3wt Winston).
Levels have stayed good, here, at least so far, but it's getting to
that time of year when things get tough.
Have you been out a lot for trout, yet? You taking any of the new
Dead releases along on the trip to NC?
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> Speaking of North Cackalacky, ...
>
> Yeah, I've seen the picture(s?) of your new puppy, she looks great.
> I've only been fishing in NC once, a buddy and I did a week on some of
> the "name" mtn streams in/around the park, plus a little roadside
> stream near Boone. This was back in 2000. Glad that the streams have
> recovered enough for you to make the trip! I know you always have
> good adventures, there. Do you think you'll actually get any good
> fishing in with the dog along? How do you make that work? Or is she
> already well-enough behaved?
I doubt she'll be a good fishing partner by then, she's only
10 weeks old now. We'll hit some streams in the UP of Michigan
in the next month or so and then a stream around Grand Marais,
Minnesota for a couple of weeks in Aug/Sept. She'll learn a
little bit, but when you're fishing with a puppy you don't
really do a whole lot of fishing. Kipper the Hound was two years
old before he settled down enough to be a good fishing partner.
I always say though, I'd rather have the dog along and catch no
fish than leave the dog at home and catch fish.
> For me, it's been day and weekend trips in VA and PA this year, and
> that's how it'll continue until late August / early September. I'll
> be out in Missoula for a couple weeks and will be hitting my favorite
> western streams (so far) - mtn tribs of one of the famous big
> rivers. The whole scene really reminds me of mtn brookie streams back
> east - the difference is that I'm catching bigger cuts instead of
> smaller brookies, and the canyon walls are higher, steeper, and
> rockier. Same flies (they're not fussy), same techniques (they're not
> fussy), same rod (it's fun catching cuts on my 3wt Winston).
Sounds nice, the Missoula snowpack is supposed to be *fantastic*
this year. You should have a blast. It's funny we both use Winston
3wts. I've got two of them, a 7.5' and a 9' I use in the canoe for
bluegill. My latest Winston is the 9wt Boron II-MX that I got for
Musky fishing. It's a friggin' cannon, definitely *not* your Dad's
Winston. When we go to the UP I'll do a few days in the lean, mean,
aluminum musky chasing machine between trips to the brookie streams.
> Levels have stayed good, here, at least so far, but it's getting to
> that time of year when things get tough.
>
> Have you been out a lot for trout, yet? You taking any of the new
> Dead releases along on the trip to NC?
Not been out yet, long story, chemo, Mayo Clinic, kidney disease,
yada yada yada, same old crap. I got the first two Road Trip
releases on my iPhone, (I couldn't resist getting an iPhone ;-),
and I've got the third one on order. I really like the Road Trip
CD's as opposed to full show releases. Which just goes to show,
even though I just use dry flies for trout I'm not a hidebound
purist in all respects. ;-)
Good luck out West this summer, I'm jealous !
--
Ken Fortenberry
mr rapidan
<kenfortenbe...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
> I doubt she'll be a good fishing partner by then, she's only
> 10 weeks old now. We'll hit some streams in the UP of Michigan
> in the next month or so and then a stream around Grand Marais,
> Minnesota for a couple of weeks in Aug/Sept. She'll learn a
> little bit, but when you're fishing with a puppy you don't
> really do a whole lot of fishing.
I get it, you're "fishing." I was wondering how that works. Someday
it would be great to have a dog that would be a good fishing / camping
companion, that's why I was curious. So, Kipper knew to stay out of
the water - would he just go wandering about in the woods, or did he
know where to stay in relation to you? You ever get hung up on him?
I've mentioned this before - my dad and his wife have an old family
place (her family) up in Copper Harbor. I haven't made it up there,
yet. But I really am looking forward to checking out some of the
streams in the not too distant future. My son is 3 1/2, I'm not ready
to subject him to the drive to get all the way up there, and I'm not
going to leave him alone with my folks, yet. They also share a summer
place near Mecosta, MI (the middle of the "mitten"), my boy and I will
be there for a week over July 4th. You've written about those UP
streams, before, they sound great. Someday . . .
> Kipper the Hound was two years
> old before he settled down enough to be a good fishing partner.
> I always say though, I'd rather have the dog along and catch no
> fish than leave the dog at home and catch fish.
I've finally gotten to the point, over the last couple years, where I
don't put pressure on myself to always be catching. The whole
experience is even more rewarding now than it used to be, when numbers
and size were the focus.
> Sounds nice, the Missoula snowpack is supposed to be *fantastic*
> this year. You should have a blast.
That's what I hear. It sure beats the closed down areas in '02 and
'03 from fires. It was a bitch trying to figure things out on my own,
at least in '02 - not only did I have to figure out high quality
targets (remoteness, gradient, driving distance) from maps and Holt's
book and the cast of characters my buddies know, I then had to make
sure I could enter the area. Things should be perfectly set up for my
visit, this year, in 10, 11 weeks.
> It's funny we both use Winston 3wts. I've got two of them, a 7.5' and a 9' I use in the canoe for
> bluegill.
I've got 2 3wts, too, but just one is a Winston - the 6'9" LT 5
piece. Perfect for backpacking and stealth sneaking to streams (all
legal waters, I just don't want to broadcast that I'm fishing). I've
got a 7'9" St. Croix 3wt that I haven't touched since I got the
Winston. I don't have a big collection - just those two and then my
first rod - a 6.5' Cortland 5wt. And the 8.5' 4wt Winston LT that I
picked up at discount and am going to break out in the Sierras next
summer.
> My latest Winston is the 9wt Boron II-MX that I got for
> Musky fishing. It's a friggin' cannon, definitely *not* your Dad's
> Winston. When we go to the UP I'll do a few days in the lean, mean,
> aluminum musky chasing machine between trips to the brookie streams.
How/where do you fish for musky? In Superior? From shore? If I clue
in to any back-country brookie streams up there, I'll probably just
stick to them. But I've got to wait until my son is old enough to
come along with me and enjoy himself or else be content to stay with
Gramps and Grandma.
> Not been out yet, long story
You're still kicking, you're planning fishing trips, you've got a new
dog, you're listening to the dead. Life is good.
> even though I just use dry flies for trout
I almost succumbed to temptation this winter and early spring, I
almost rigged up some beadheads. Almost.
> Good luck out West this summer, I'm jealous !
Have fun in North Carolina! In the end, mtn stream fishing is mtn
stream fishing - it's all good.
BTW, we also both like Lagavulin.
Ken Fortenberry
> Ken Fortenberry wrote:
>> I doubt she'll be a good fishing partner by then, she's only
>> She'll learn a
>> little bit, but when you're fishing with a puppy you don't
>> really do a whole lot of fishing.
>
> I get it, you're "fishing." I was wondering how that works. Someday
> it would be great to have a dog that would be a good fishing / camping
> companion, that's why I was curious. So, Kipper knew to stay out of
> the water - would he just go wandering about in the woods, or did he
> know where to stay in relation to you? You ever get hung up on him?
Kipper knew to stay behind me while I was fishing. As a younger
dog he'd stick to the stream and follow behind with the occasional
foray looking for varmints. His last few years he'd find a nice
warm observation spot and watch the proceedings from a succession
of comfortable perches as I moved upstream.
> ... You've written about those UP
> streams, before, they sound great. Someday . . .
The best ones of course I wouldn't mention for love nor money. ;-)
> I've finally gotten to the point, over the last couple years, where I
> don't put pressure on myself to always be catching. The whole
> experience is even more rewarding now than it used to be, when numbers
> and size were the focus.
Most of us go through the phases pretty much the same. Phase 1;
catch a fish, Phase 2; catch a lot of fish, Phase 3; catch a BIG
fish, Phase 4; there's more to "fishing" than catching. I've met
longtime fishermen who've never made it to Phase 4, I feel sorry
for them.
> ... And the 8.5' 4wt Winston LT that I
> picked up at discount and am going to break out in the Sierras next
> summer.
The 4wt LT is a sweet rod and it should be perfect for Montana cutts.
My 4wt is the long since discontinued Sage LL (Light Line) in 9'. It's
the closest thing Sage ever made to a traditional Winston. Why they
quit making them is one of those eternal mysteries, I think it's one
of Sage's masterpieces.
>> My latest Winston is the 9wt Boron II-MX that I got for
>> Musky fishing. It's a friggin' cannon, definitely *not* your Dad's
>> Winston. When we go to the UP I'll do a few days in the lean, mean,
>> aluminum musky chasing machine between trips to the brookie streams.
>
> How/where do you fish for musky? In Superior? From shore? ...
The lean, mean, musky chasing machine is my old aluminum 18'
Grumman canoe fitted with outriggers, casting platform and a
German electric outboard called a Torqeedo. I fish the lakes
just across the border on the Wisconsin side near Boulder Junction.
That's a great area for a fly fisherman. You've got brookie
streams on the Michigan side and musky lakes on the Wisconsin side
not to mention some of the best trophy smallmouth fishing in the
world in the Sylvania Wilderness. The Sylvania is non-motorized
only so that's where I use the little cedar strip canoe. The
Midwest Triple Crown of fly fishing, brook trout, musky, smallmouth
bass all within a half hour drive. I love it up there.
> You're still kicking, you're planning fishing trips, you've got a new
> dog, you're listening to the dead. Life is good.
Hell yeah !! Any day you wake up on top of the dirt instead
of underneath it is a good day !
>> even though I just use dry flies for trout
>
> I almost succumbed to temptation this winter and early spring, I
> almost rigged up some beadheads. Almost.
Yeah, I felt the disturbance in the Force. ;-)
> BTW, we also both like Lagavulin.
Here's to the peat !
--
Ken Fortenberry
SkyYellow...@hotmail.com
Mr Rapidan.....Copper Harbor is beautiful!
Ken...I'm heading up to Manitowish Waters in a couple weeks. I just
started flyfishing (last nite was my first attempt), I plan on doing
much more of that while up there. I gotta say though, some of those
knots are a pain in the arse.
Ken Fortenberry
> ...
> started flyfishing (last nite was my first attempt), I plan on doing
> much more of that while up there. I gotta say though, some of those
> knots are a pain in the arse.
You're going to a great place, one of my favorite places to
fly fish in the Midwest.
If you want a guide for a day or half day I recommend Bill Sherer;
I've fished with Bill, he knows fly fishing, does well with newbies
and really knows the area. A lot of folks think it's a good idea to
have professional instruction *before* developing bad habits. A
visit to his fly shop should be a must at any rate if just to read
the hatch chart on the chalkboard and get some free advice.
Have fun and tight lines !!
--
Ken Fortenberry
Neil X.
Ken, you have a fan!
Peace,
Neil X.
SkyYellow...@hotmail.com
<kenfortenbe...@trashameritech.net> wrote:
Nice site, he's not far at all from where we'll be. Thanks!
Dave Kelly
"mr rapidan" <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:13f001f2-7f09-4bee...@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> For me, it's been day and weekend trips in VA and PA this year, and
> that's how it'll continue until late August / early September. I'll
> be out in Missoula for a couple weeks and will be hitting my favorite
> western streams (so far) -
Damn...sounds like you and Dingleberry need to
get your BrokeBack Mountain ON!
mr rapidan
There is indeed a special camaraderie to be found with guys in the
backcountry after a good, hard day of fishing - pumping water, picking
off ticks, cooking up meals, lazily watching stoneflies meander about,
whisky, candle lanterns, and conversation. But not Brokeback Mountain
special.
Lfh
> > Damn...sounds like you and Dingleberry need to
> > get your BrokeBack Mountain ON!
>
> There is indeed a special camaraderie to be found with guys in the
> backcountry after a good, hard . . .
Whoa, cowboy. The IIAAHSWYP thing is just a joke.
Fred