What is your LEAST favorite DEAD song?
Matt Henschel
West LA Fadeaway?!@#
I love the song. I even dig Bobby singin' it.
The Blues for Allah suite is a bunch of garbage. The dead always had to put
some crap on every studio album, and IMHO, Blues for Allah is musically
their tightest album. So they had to put some flat-out SHIT on the end of
it to balance out the good stuff.
Victim or the Crime gets on my nerves sometimes. Sometimes when I hear that
song, I feel like the victim, and Bobby becomes the crime. I think it was
intended to make some of us think about what we're doing, or something, but
I think it's a load of shit. That's just me though.
-Matt
"Need a West LA Girl,
Already know what I need to know...
...Don't want to buy it,
just want to rent it for an hour or two."
joking ladies. just joking.
Garry Bryan wrote in message <7577mp$d...@canyon.sr.hp.com>...
>One more sampling, what IS your least favorite DEAD song? No covers like
that
>country version of HEY JUDE 3/1/69. bleeck. Kinda depends but I've never
>been found of WEST LA FADEAWAY. Anyone else?
>
>
>Garry
>
stuart levitan
friend of the devil
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Garry Bryan wrote in message <7577mp$d...@canyon.sr.hp.com>...
>One more sampling, what IS your least favorite DEAD song? No covers like
that
>country version of HEY JUDE 3/1/69. bleeck. Kinda depends but I've never
>been found of WEST LA FADEAWAY. Anyone else?
>
>
>Garry
>
seen about every
"knockin on Heaven's Door"
Scot
"owee owee...it's like an obnoxious drive-in movie"
Rob
>There's nothing to it.
>--
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You'd better head back to Jupiter Greg.
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Russell Mirabelli
mtng...@aol.com (MtnGirl98) wrote:
>As for Dead songs I don't like... there used to be a couple... but shit... now
>I'd give anything to hear Jerry and the boyz sing Cheezy Answers, Wave to the
>Wind, and Eternity just one more time.
Amen.
(Though for the record, Lazy Lightnin' drives me up the dang wall)
R
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jupiter wrote:
> Tennessee Jed. Musically speaking, what is the point of that song?
> There's nothing to it.
I got to disagree. The chord progression in the jam part is pretty unique in how
the tension slowly builds up higher and higher until climaxes right before the
singing starts again (hope I didn't get everybody too excited). They really did a
great one for Europe '72 (5-3-72 I think).
Bill
gordon sharpless
>One more sampling, what IS your least favorite DEAD song? No covers like that
>country version of HEY JUDE 3/1/69. bleeck. Kinda depends but I've never
>been found of WEST LA FADEAWAY. Anyone else?
>
>
>Garry
>
I Don't Need Love
Far From Me
Easy to Love You
Just a Little Light
I'll Take You Home
Blow Away
Tons of Steel
We Can Run
...did I miss any?
Gordon
P.S. 2/3/79 is still a good show.
Garry Bryan
MtnGirl98
>"streetcats making love?" Oh God...
Actually, the very first night I spent wif my sweetie we awoke to street cats
making love outside our hotel room in Oxnard, CA. The song has had extra
special meaning ever since!
As for Dead songs I don't like... there used to be a couple... but shit... now
I'd give anything to hear Jerry and the boyz sing Cheezy Answers, Wave to the
Wind, and Eternity just one more time.
all good things,
T. (MG)
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sarah bruner
ahhh an old thread coming back to haunt us....
In article <01be28a2$6efdeaa0$5432a2d1@i406780>, anne...@thegrid.net says...
>
>That's so easy. Looks Like Rain! I really don't like that song.
>"streetcats making love?" Oh God...
>
while i'm not particularly fond of that line either,
i think Looks Like Rain is one of Bobby's best
songs.
I only want to hold you.
I don't want to tie you down.
Or fence you in the lines
I might have drawn.
It's just that I've gotten used to
Havin' you around.
My landscape would be empty
If you were gone.
i mean, that little bit right there makes up for
every single ounce of other bad lyrics and
cheese that Bobby puts us through.
-s
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NL Zwolle
>"streetcats making love?" Oh God...
LMAO, rotf! I know just what you mean.. it's embarrassing...
christopher
jupiter
Tennessee Jed. Musically speaking, what is the point of that song?
There's nothing to it.
Beauchaux
feel like a stranger
beauregard
Mirmel73
#1 without a doubt...
none....
FUKINMISSIM
-Ian
'Dizzy ain't the word for the way that you're makin' me feel now!
Whew, Whew, Whew!
I need some indication girl if all of this is real now!
You got to help me now...
Just a bolt of inspiration, the way it strikes me now...'
WHEW!
-RW
Dave Rosenberg
vote goes to Sunrise and From the Heart of Me.
--DR
Annette Gullickson wrote:
> That's so easy. Looks Like Rain! I really don't like that song.
> "streetcats making love?" Oh God...
>
> Annette
>
> Garry Bryan <ga...@sr.hp.com> wrote in article
> <7577mp$d...@canyon.sr.hp.com>...
> > One more sampling, what IS your least favorite DEAD song? No covers like
> that
> > country version of HEY JUDE 3/1/69. bleeck. Kinda depends but I've never
> > been found of WEST LA FADEAWAY. Anyone else?
> >
> >
> > Garry
> >
> >
Larry
StevenFama
that Grateful Dead concert.
Aaron Bibb, International Man of Mystery
> That's so easy. Looks Like Rain! I really don't like that song.
> "streetcats making love?" Oh God...
>
> Annette
Oh no... I sense "Donna good vs. Donna bad" thread approaching... Use extreme
caution when replying to this message...
I like Looks Like Rain. Really, it's hard to think of a song I absolutely
despise... Money Money is annoying, but not horrible. Stagger Lee usually
doesn't do it for me. Neither does Alabama Getaway, or Far From Me. As for
covers, that's a different story... You Ain't Woman Enough makes me want to
retch. Phil singing Broken Arrow can get kind of painful.
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Aaron Bibb, International Man of Mystery
dare you! ;) I used not to be very fond of either China Doll or To Lay Me
Down until I really listened to the versions on RECKONING... Some of the best
harmonizing they have ever done is the line "Just a little nervous from the
fall." Sends chills down my spine.
--
Matt Henschel
that song. Just THINKING about it is sending chills up my spine. I gotta
admit though, I'm not a big fan of Phil singing it, God bless him.
-Matt
"All I leave behind me
is only what I've found
If you can't abide it,
Let the hurdy-gurdy play,
Stranger ones have come by here
Before they flew away."
Aaron Bibb, International Man of Mystery wrote in message ...
Trees1st
>been found of WEST LA FADEAWAY. Anyone else?
Very good guess. It was the first one that came to my mind.
But, gasp, Annette, "Looks Like Rain?" How could you? Have you never had that
spot next to you go empty?
Ah, "I guess by their cries, you were listening to their fight..."
Music to my ears.
Trees1st
Trees1st
>hell in a bucket
>friend of the devil
>
Well, I must say I got a better laugh out of this thread than I have most
any of the others. It was a great deal of fun watching the disparity and
having one person's favorite be another person's personal nightmare. This was
good for us all. We tend to run a bit on the 'music-centric" side. I enjoyed
laughing a bit with everyone as we watched the differences.
But, I am going to stop reading this thread (right...) because it is just
too painful. To think there is a deadhead out there that views Hell in a
Bucket and Friend of the Devil as slop makes me, well, crazy. As for Hell in a
Bucket, I gotta love any song that appears to be specifically about my ex.
Damn, and I thought she was unique. As for Friend of the Devil, gee whiz,
that's like attacking Jingle Bells.
As ever,
Trees1st
Kent Stewart
>
> The Blues for Allah suite is a bunch of garbage. The dead always
> had to put some crap on every studio album, and IMHO, Blues for Allah
> is musically their tightest album. So they had to put some flat-out
> SHIT on the end of it to balance out the good stuff.
I'm guessing you never heard it played live. Am I correct?
The third time I saw the Dead was the show that turned me into
a deadhead, and the second set of that show, 6/17/75 at Winterland,
was a Blues For Allah meltdown.
Hundreds of sets later, that one remains the most psychedelic set
I ever heard that band play.
Sure worked for me.
cheers,
--bongo
Brent Progecene
> One more sampling, what IS your least favorite DEAD song? No covers like that
> country version of HEY JUDE 3/1/69. bleeck. Kinda depends but I've never
> been found of WEST LA FADEAWAY. Anyone else?
>
>
> Garry
Day Job. A poor "Deal" retread.
Brent
PhunkDooby
just takes over the vocals...Call me a newbie, but I happen to like the times
before her as well as after her...Peace to all...
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David Pelovitz
of the song, but probably like the Dead's among the least.
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Jon Meltzer
Tim
>
> I tend to skip Operator.
You and me both. Great CD, okay song.
How about "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away"?
I skip over that as well.
Not found of "Wave to Wind" either, but
I'd give anything to hear Phil sing it
again.
tim
Jim McVey
France. Blech.
Jim
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Aeglatz
as "bathroom breaks." Fresh on my mind, as I saw DSO last night after about
100oz. of water, a double cappuccino & 2 beers...
1. Corrina. No second thoughts. Don't feel guilty about it.
2. Easy Answers
3. Tons of Steel (it just became a bathroom break last night)
4. Playin' - even though it's a good song, I don't really need to hear it
again.
5. Samba
6. Black Throated Wind
Shawn Lucas
Dark Star.....I mean come on what is with that cheesy opening riff?!?
Saint Stephen.....Rock and roll shouldn't be about biblical fruitcakes
carrying roses
The Eleven......High green chilly winds...kinda sounds like a Phish
lyric to me
Fire On the Mountain....Yeah I'm sure there is a fire...I guess Jerry
never read "The boy who Cried Wolf"
.......Scroll down a bit........
....and if you believe I don't like those I got a bridge I need to
unload for a few bucks. In all honesty though I think Wave to the
Wind was real turd status.
Shawn
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GarchiaPet
Cheezey Answers
Bill Lane
Rooster' was kinda boring for me as well. I am shocked to see "China Doll'
on this thread..... Try 9-10-93 Santa Fe, what a heart rendering version....
"Looks Like Rain" getting chosen for this dubious honor is also a surprise
to me. Different strokes for different folks , I guess!
GarchiaPet wrote in message
<19981216120454...@ng-fi1.aol.com>...
>Samba
>Cheezey Answers
Donaldson, Thomas
Fire On the Mountain. Just seemed pointless, I guess.
TD
robert oconnell
Portland it was played at each with varying degrees of lost lyrics I
dont hate the song but feel it was overplayed
Revporl
other-tepid crap!
love,
revporl
PhunkDooby
>
Yeah, it almost reminds me of an 80's Rickard Marx song...Hmm...
Annette Gullickson
Aaron Bibb, International Man of Mystery <ajb...@tntech.edu> wrote in
article
> covers, that's a different story... You Ain't Woman Enough makes me want
to
> retch. Phil singing Broken Arrow can get kind of painful.
It's funny how opinions work. I love "You Ain't Woman Enough". What a
great song.
FWIW, I really like "Day Job" too. :)
Annette
Annette Gullickson
Trees1st <tree...@aol.com> wrote in article
> But, gasp, Annette, "Looks Like Rain?" How could you? Have you never
had that
> spot next to you go empty?
> Ah, "I guess by their cries, you were listening to their fight..."
> Music to my ears.
Of course I can relate to the sentiment, but that song and the way Bobby
sings it just cheeses me out. I feel embarassed when it comes on. That's
all I can say.
Annette
Michael Kerscher
Annette Gullickson schrieb:
> That's so easy. Looks Like Rain! I really don't like that song.
> "streetcats making love?" Oh God...
Just BTW: For about 2 days I have run around singingin "Looks like rain", it's
really stuck in my ear... And: I LIKE it!
LEAST favorite, well, I think, picasso moon would be a good answer, but I'm
not sure...
Garry Bryan
FRIEND OF THE DEVIL!!!! Really? But I could go with HIAB except the video was
so cute. . .:)
Garry
Garry Bryan
I find that very interesting since Jerry said that BFA was the album that
came closest to being the sound he had in his head for the band. Very other
worldly. . ..
Garry
: cheers,
: --bongo
DOconn3569
I agree totally! Followed by Stella Blue....big time lizzard draining songs
Bill Lane
Slipknot!
>>China Doll
>
>I agree totally! Followed by Stella Blue....big time lizzard draining songs
favorite tunes. A nice early version of both can easily bring a tear to my
eye. Peace,
Brett
Bill Lane
everything isnt there?
Scratchie wrote in message ...
>
>Bill Lane <bill...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>: Stella Blue???? Your kidding right?
>
>Hey, I'm glad these guys were in the bathroom during those songs rather
>than standing behind me talking! :)
>
>--Art
>
>: DOconn3569 wrote in message
>: <19981216163518...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>:>>China Doll
>:>
>:>I agree totally! Followed by Stella Blue....big time lizzard draining
>: songs
>
>
>
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>
>In article <01be28a2$6efdeaa0$5432a2d1@i406780>, "Annette Gullickson" <anne...@thegrid.net> writes:
>> That's so easy. Looks Like Rain! I really don't like that song.
>> "streetcats making love?" Oh God...
>>
>
>Oh no... I sense "Donna good vs. Donna bad" thread approaching... Use extreme
>caution when replying to this message...
>
>I like Looks Like Rain. Really, it's hard to think of a song I absolutely
>despise... Money Money is annoying, but not horrible. Stagger Lee usually
>doesn't do it for me.
listen to 4/7/87 and you will dig Stagger Lee. i give you
my word. Jerry smokes.
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Great Caesar's Ghost, is it time for this hateful thread again already?
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Dave Rosenberg
Slipknot! wrote:
> In article <19981216163518...@ng-ch1.aol.com>, docon...@aol.com (DOconn3569) wrote:
> >>China Doll
> >
> >I agree totally! Followed by Stella Blue....big time lizzard draining songs
Stymie
or "Operator" for that matter. And I never quite got into "Walk in the
Sunshine," for that matter... but that's understandable, right???? ;-)
oh yeah... and I kinda chuckle every time I hear "Golden Road," but only
because those lyrics can get pretty damn goofy!!!
Hey Hey... join the club and party every day!!!
oh well, woulda sold my sould to see them play it live!!!
even though I would have laughed my ass off!!!
mrdna
crow...@ix.netcom.com
> I can't believe "Dancin in the Streets" wasn't mentioned.
Don't worry. There's a valid reason.
Garry Bryan
: In article <19981216163518...@ng-ch1.aol.com>, docon...@aol.com (DOconn3569) wrote:
: >>China Doll
: >
: >I agree totally! Followed by Stella Blue....big time lizzard draining songs
: I can't believe I'm reading this! China Doll and Stella Blue are two of my
: favorite tunes. A nice early version of both can easily bring a tear to my
: eye. Peace,
Well it's clear to see that Stella Blue gets the juices flowing. . . just
differently for different folks. . .:)
Garry
MtnGirl98
>And I never quite got into "Walk in the
>Sunshine," for that matter...
i musta missed this one...
AATOMYX
Jerry Grau
kind of grated on me. I kinda like it, and I kinda hate it.
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Gary Dobson
sharpless) wrote:
>On 16 Dec 1998 02:59:37 GMT, ga...@sr.hp.com (Garry Bryan) wrote:
>
>>(sipped)
>>
>
>
>I Don't Need Love
>Far From Me
>Easy to Love You
>Just a Little Light
>I'll Take You Home
>Blow Away
>Tons of Steel
>We Can Run
>
>...did I miss any?
>
>Gordon
>
>P.S. 2/3/79 is still a good show.
>
>
Revolutionary Hamstrung Blues
Gentlemen Start Your Engines
There seems to be a trend here..
actually loved the Brent stuff (more so after hearing Samba)...
Regards,
Gary
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Michael K. Weise
Picasso Moon, Samba in the Rain, Lazy Lightning/Supplication and Shakedown
Street follow in no particular order.
BTWind is one of my favorite Bobby tunes, though, and I can say with
certainty that I'll never get sick of PITB or of any Brent tune. I'm also
surprised that Eternity has been mentioned so much in this thread, as it's
one of my favorite post-BTL bobby tunes.
Aeglatz wrote:
>
> I have a list of songs, not that I necessarily hate, but which are designated
> as "bathroom breaks." Fresh on my mind, as I saw DSO last night after about
> 100oz. of water, a double cappuccino & 2 beers...
> 1. Corrina. No second thoughts. Don't feel guilty about it.
> 2. Easy Answers
> 3. Tons of Steel (it just became a bathroom break last night)
> 4. Playin' - even though it's a good song, I don't really need to hear it
> again.
> 5. Samba
> 6. Black Throated Wind
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>
>Duane Day <du...@thismoment.Sun.COM> wrote:
>
>: Great Caesar's Ghost, is it time for this hateful thread again already?
>
>It hasn't been that hateful yet, and we've even managed to mention
>Brent...
I just read a posting to this thread that appeared to be a listing
of as many Brent songs as the author could remember. It's not that
big a jump from "my least favorite Dead song is every song Brent
wrote" to "Brent sucks," is it? Give it time - I'll bet we arrive
at "Donna sucks" shortly if we haven't gotten there already. That's
a shame, imo.
>Seriously, the thing I like about this particular thread is that it
>reinforces the fact (which a lot of folks, myself included, sometimes
>forget) that whatever song you just can't stand, there's somebody who
>can't wait to hear it (and vice versa).
Maybe that's it...having played in Dead cover bands for most of the
last few years (and being a big admirer of Victim or the Crime for
years before that) I've been reminded of that fact plenty. If I
carp about any Dead song, I'm probably shaving the buzz of lots of
people who dearly love that song. And the more conformity-minded
may even feel compelled to start hating a song that had brought
them joy.
What many people seem to forget is that the Dead considered each
of these songs worthy of commercial release and/or live performance.
Since we love the Dead so much, should we be so quick to dismiss the
possibility that they saw merit even in songs and band members we
didn't like so much, and that maybe they saw that merit where some
of us failed to do so because they spent a lot more time with all
these songs and all these bandmembers than we did? Maybe when we
take potshots at songs and band members, we're revealing our own
ignorance or the limitations of our ability to "get it" rather
than any intrinsic lack of worth of the songs or band members.
How many songs did we think were horrible songs until that one
hearing during which we *did* get it? And didn't we then feel a
little silly about having thought this wonderful song was so
worthless? Who knows, maybe we then started to think that "Least
Favorite Dead Song" threads are harmful, if not downright hateful -
especially when the answers aren't "I don't like this song" but
rather "this song is awful and the Dead should never have played it."
Of course, trying to constrain displays of ignorance here would
be censorship, right? :-) So I'm not saying "don't post to this
thread", just offering the suggestion that maybe some posts to
this thread fall into the "display of ignorance" category and the
opinion that this thread tends to get hateful, every time.
Nice chatting with you, Art.
gordon sharpless
wrote:
>
>I just read a posting to this thread that appeared to be a listing
>of as many Brent songs as the author could remember. It's not that
>big a jump from "my least favorite Dead song is every song Brent
>wrote" to "Brent sucks," is it? Give it time - I'll bet we arrive
>at "Donna sucks" shortly if we haven't gotten there already. That's
>a shame, imo.
The person who posted that message was me. Though I've been away for
awhile, perhaps a few people here will remember that I've never been
shy about expressing my dislike for Brent's songwriting ability, and
his live performances of said songs. In my, I think rather well
seasoned opinion, many of Brent's songs did not at all fit in the
Grateful Dead repertoire. They were cheeze whiz (Easy to Love You,
Tons of Steel), sappy sugar coated pseudohippie fluff (We Can Run), or
just plain negative (I Don't Need Love, Blow Away) and an excuse to
use four letter words to get a rise from the audience. Pig could do
it, Brent couldn't. I will however say that my dislike for Brent is
limited solely to his songs and his singing, I do not denigrate his
keyboard playing ability. That was good, quite good.
>
>Maybe that's it...having played in Dead cover bands for most of the
>last few years (and being a big admirer of Victim or the Crime for
>years before that) I've been reminded of that fact plenty. If I
>carp about any Dead song, I'm probably shaving the buzz of lots of
>people who dearly love that song. And the more conformity-minded
>may even feel compelled to start hating a song that had brought
>them joy.
I've also never been shy about expressing how much I like songs such
as U.S. Blues, Hell in a Bucket, and even Day Job. I've never based my
opinions on conformity.
>
>What many people seem to forget is that the Dead considered each
>of these songs worthy of commercial release and/or live performance.
>Since we love the Dead so much, should we be so quick to dismiss the
>possibility that they saw merit even in songs and band members we
>didn't like so much, and that maybe they saw that merit where some
>of us failed to do so because they spent a lot more time with all
>these songs and all these bandmembers than we did?
Not necessarily. What they liked and what we liked need not always be
the same.
>Maybe when we
>take potshots at songs and band members, we're revealing our own
>ignorance or the limitations of our ability to "get it" rather
>than any intrinsic lack of worth of the songs or band members.
I think I 'got it' just fine. Brent's song writing ability didn't jive
with what the Grateful Dead were/are to me, that's all.
>How many songs did we think were horrible songs until that one
>hearing during which we *did* get it? And didn't we then feel a
>little silly about having thought this wonderful song was so
>worthless?
I agree with this, Hell in a Bucket is a perfect example with me,
however repeated listenings and I still can't bring myself to sit
through ten minutes of Brent yelling 'fucking blow away'.
>Who knows, maybe we then started to think that "Least
>Favorite Dead Song" threads are harmful, if not downright hateful -
>especially when the answers aren't "I don't like this song" but
>rather "this song is awful and the Dead should never have played it."
It's not harmful at all. It's expressing honest opinions. If I think a
song is awful then to me it's awful. Period.
>
>Of course, trying to constrain displays of ignorance here would
>be censorship, right? :-) So I'm not saying "don't post to this
>thread", just offering the suggestion that maybe some posts to
>this thread fall into the "display of ignorance" category and the
>opinion that this thread tends to get hateful, every time.
Well, if expressing my dislike for Brent is a display of ignorance,
then I plead guilty. Call me an ignorant fool, but please call me a
blissful one...
Gordon
Drew Freeman
(Trees1st) wrote:
> Very good guess. It was the first one that came to my mind.
> But, gasp, Annette, "Looks Like Rain?" How could you? Have you never had
I don't like "Looks Like Rain" but for another reason... it's senimental to
me and sad and brings me down. It's jut a personal thing with me... but if
you're taking all opinions.
I felt the same way about "I Will Take You Home". While it's a sweet tune,
its lullaby style is menenchally to my ears. Maybe it's just that the
short tim when it was played was sad for me and it was compounded by the
influx of new tunes and new fans who are at shows for a party and not the
band. Maybe I just associate those songs with the "new" fans.
"He's Gone" has been overplayed and it falls into that sad group too. Weir
has said that a sad song spoke to Jerry's heart... but that one... as much
as I like it... had become tiresome over the years.
--
Sometime you can get shown the light... in the strangest of places if you
look at it right !
MtnGirl98
>How many songs did we think were horrible songs until that one
>hearing during which we *did* get it?
El Paso is the one in this category for me.
Once again, I'd have to agree with Duane... about this thread revealing our
ignorance or limitations of our ability to "get it." After living with a
musician, I can honestly say that its hard for me to "dis" any song. I kinda
find it amusing that no one mentions as their least favorite songs some of the
*easiest* songs to play, like those with two or four chords. But I guess the
dead knew how to liven up a simple A-D-G-D, huh?
have a grateful day :-)
Teri (MG)
http://members.aol.com/mtngirl98/index.html
Michael Turner
great as the penultimate song before a scorcing Deal. But as the third or
fourth song in the second set, I've seen it drag the energy *way* down.
Still like it tho,
Michael
Michael Kerscher wrote in message <367816ED...@NOSPAMt-online.de>...
>
>
>Annette Gullickson schrieb:
>
>> That's so easy. Looks Like Rain! I really don't like that song.
>> "streetcats making love?" Oh God...
>
Michael Turner
really bugged me was the onslaught of those lame heads in the 80's and 90's
who'd get drunk and talk during Bird Song, Stella, China Doll, or any other
particularly sensitive passage (Kesey's rap during the 10/31/91 Dark Star
fer instance) like they were at some glorified kegger.
Remember kids, if ya ain't there to *listen* to the music, STAY HOME (it'll
free up tickets for folks who really appreciate what it's all about).
There - now I've got that off my chest, I think my coffee's ready.
:-)
Michael T
Scratchie wrote in message ...
>
>Bill Lane <bill...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>: Stella Blue???? Your kidding right?
>
>Hey, I'm glad these guys were in the bathroom during those songs rather
>than standing behind me talking! :)
>
>--Art
>
>: DOconn3569 wrote in message
>: <19981216163518...@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>:>>China Doll
>:>
>:>I agree totally! Followed by Stella Blue....big time lizzard draining
>: songs
>
>
>
MtnGirl98
>many of Brent's songs did not at all fit in the
>Grateful Dead repertoire. They were cheeze whiz (Easy to Love You,
>Tons of Steel), sappy sugar coated pseudohippie fluff (We Can Run), or
>just plain negative (I Don't Need Love, Blow Away) and an excuse to
>use four letter words to get a rise from the audience. Pig could do
>it, Brent couldn't.
Couldnt do it for YOU maybe... but seems to me... people were pretty INTO it at
3/25/90 when Brent went OFF at the end of Blow Away. To say Pig could do it
but Brent couldn't is YOUR opinion, not a statement of fact.
happy jolly-holly-days,
Teri (MG)
http://members.aol.com/mtngirl98/index.html
Jamie Decker
Jamie Decker
fbe...@dns.colum.edu
go...@philly.infi.net (gordon sharpless) wrote:
>
> I Don't Need Love
> Far From Me
> Easy to Love You
> Just a Little Light
> I'll Take You Home
> Blow Away
> Tons of Steel
> We Can Run
>
> ...did I miss any?
Gentlemen Start Your Engines
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heard, by the Dead or any other band..
Chris
Bill Lane
Maybe You Know
Never Trust a Woman (good time blues)
Only a Fool
>>>
>>
>>
>>I Don't Need Love
>>Far From Me
>>Easy to Love You
>>Just a Little Light
>>I'll Take You Home
>>Blow Away
>>Tons of Steel
>>We Can Run
>>
>>...did I miss any?
>>
>>Gordon
DOconn3569
>Stella Blue???? Your kidding right?
Nope....IMHO, one of the worst concert tunes imaginable.
DOconn3569
>: >>China Doll
>: >
>: >I agree totally! Followed by Stella Blue....big time lizzard draining
>songs
>
>: favorite tunes. A nice early version of both can easily bring a tear to my
>
>: eye. Peace,
>
>Well it's clear to see that Stella Blue gets the juices flowing. . . just
>differently for different folks. . .:)
Hey, I said these are my least favorite Dead tunes. They are still much better
than the best tunes of many other artists....sheeeesh!
Todd Brown
>Duane Day wrote:
>
>>How many songs did we think were horrible songs until that one
>>hearing during which we *did* get it?
>
>El Paso is the one in this category for me.
> But I guess the
>dead knew how to liven up a simple A-D-G-D, huh?
Jerry did that's for sure and he seemed to really have a good time with
it.
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Donaldson, Thomas
"Michael Turner" <m.tu...@postoffice.worldnet.att.net>
wrote on 17 Dec 1998 13:56:04 GMT
}I love LL Rain, but I always thought it belonged in the first set.
}It was great as the penultimate song before a scorching Deal.
}But as the third or fourth song in the second set, I've seen it
}drag the energy *way* down.
Nowhere near as bad as Ship of Fools. At least LLR could build up to some
sort of climax, but Ship never changed, just kinda sat there and let the
momentum go out of too many show I saw.
Oh well.
Todd Brown
Oh well, ironic that with nothing left to chew on we chewup what it was
that brought us all together in the begining?
Looking back, it was all good, looking foward, I'd like to go back.
Donaldson, Thomas
mtng...@aol.com (MtnGirl98) wrote on 17 Dec 1998:
Don't worry Teri, they never played this song live--it's off the "Ace"
album.
Have a positive (holi)day,
TD
Bruno Trematore
>One more sampling, what IS your least favorite DEAD song? No covers like that
If I had the world to give...
the whole album "Shakedown Street" sucks, but that song is the worse.
BRUNO TREMATORE
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QUINNDSKMO
yours is the smartest post of that whole thread.
stephanie
crow...@ix.netcom.com
Bruno Trematore wrote:
> If I had the world to give...
I can say with about 99.9% certainty that you've never heard the one from 11-20-78
(the third and last time this song was ever performed).
bc
Slipknot!
Sunrise on the setlist of a tape that's on the way. Other than that I love
all the other tunes. Peace,
Brett
Michael K. Weise
>
> I just read a posting to this thread that appeared to be a listing
> of as many Brent songs as the author could remember. It's not that
> big a jump from "my least favorite Dead song is every song Brent
> wrote" to "Brent sucks," is it? Give it time - I'll bet we arrive
> at "Donna sucks" shortly if we haven't gotten there already. That's
> a shame, imo.
I've heard all that before, but wake me when you've been through all band
members and get to Jerry.
ron...@ix.netcom.com
and his lyricists. I don't know how someone who could write such gems
as Jack Straw, LLRain and Black Throated Wind could come up some of
the dreck Bobby's done.
Oh, and Wave To The Wind is embarrassingly bad. I thought Phil had
better musical taste than that.
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Tim
>
> gordon sharpless wrote:
>
> >many of Brent's songs did not at all fit in the
> >Grateful Dead repertoire.
The man was part of the Dead for over 10 years. His songs
are just simply part of the Grateful Dead repertorie. They
fit was well as any Jerry or Bob songs.
I don't like them all the same, or even like all them, but
as an 80's Head they are to me as much as Dead music as Dark Star.
tim
Tim
Dude: Don't take the brown acid.
Irasail
>...the ones where you can hear Vince
The ones where I have to read junk from maroons like this.
Ira.
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Tim wrote in message <367995...@berbee.com>...
gordon sharpless
wrote:
>
>As for negativity, Brent was hardly the only songwriter in the Dead to
>write "negative" songs, he was just maybe the most direct. "He's Gone"
>started out as a pretty negative song, "Black Peter" isn't exactly a
>barrel of laughs and "Comes a Time" is one of the saddest songs I know (a
>man walking alone through the rain because he couldn't find true love).
>"Don't Need Love" could be looked at as an alternate view of the same
>situation (here the guy's heartbroken but he's acting all tough instead).
Point taken, but it's not simply the message but its the creation and
delivery of the message. Consider that anybody can look in the mirror
and paint a picture of themself but few artists could create a
masterpiece of the magnitude of say, Rembrandt. I'd say the same thing
about Brent's songs opposed to what Hunter wrote. IMO, Brent simply
doesn't have Hunter's talent and where Hunter could effectively and
tastefully convey any message he chose, Brent's attempts were third
rate. Furthermore I also call into account the vocal delivery of the
songs. Again it's a personal thing but Garcia could pump plenty of
emotion and soul into a song, from Brent I often heard what came
across (to me) as childish whining about women doin' him wrong.
>Musically, I'd say that "Blow Away" and "Far From Me" rock as hard as
>anything the Dead did post-"Passenger", and "Never Trust a Woman" was a
>much more emotional and authentic-sounding blues than anything Weir ever
>sang in his life.
I'll concede Blow Away had it's moments but I could never get past the
cursing and screaming. Never Trust a Woman is the aberration- it's one
Brent song I do like. Unfortuanately Brent's next effort was I Don't
Need Love.
I would also add in respect to the band's opinions about Brent tunes
that it was fairly common, especially in the 1983-1986 years, for the
whole band (not just Jerry) to bail on Brent and leave him alone with
the drummers when he did his songs, hmm... something to think about.
Anyway, there was a joke circulating on tour in the first half of 1984
in reference to the new Brent tune - I Don't Need Love. It went like
this:
DeadHead meets Jerry:
DH: Hey Jerry, what's that new Brent tune called?
JERRY: I have a better question, what are the changes?
Gordon
xian
>
> In article <19981217085519...@ng100.aol.com> mtng...@aol.com (MtnGirl98) writes:
> >Duane Day wrote:
> >
> >>How many songs did we think were horrible songs until that one
> >>hearing during which we *did* get it?
> >
> >El Paso is the one in this category for me.
>
> > But I guess the
> >dead knew how to liven up a simple A-D-G-D, huh?
>
> Jerry did that's for sure and he seemed to really have a good time with
> it.
he'd take a melody, and see, you see, what he could do about it,
liven up a simple A-D-G-D, and feel brand new about it.
Slipknot!
Peace,
Brett
Queen of Infinite Space
Irasail <ira...@aol.com> wrote:
>Jamie Decker <sa...@wmix106.com> wrote:
>
>>...the ones where you can hear Vince
>
>The ones where I have to read junk from maroons like this.
>
hey, aren't those coconut things for passover, not Chanukah?
Rainbow
>Ira.
>
>
>- -
>Don't let your fears get in the way of your dreams.
>- -
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Irasail
>Ira Heller <ira...@aol.com> wrote:
>>The ones where I have to read junk from maroons like this.
>
>hey, aren't those coconut things for passover, not Chanukah?
That's right. Chanukah is latkes.
Sean B. O'Connell
Incredibly stupid. A mistake. What the hell were they thinking?
They sure recorded Phil's bass well on that one, however.
Sean B. O'Connell
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Irasail <ira...@aol.com> wrote:
>rai...@mydland.eng.sun.com (Queen of Infinite Space) wrote:
>
>>Ira Heller <ira...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>>The ones where I have to read junk from maroons like this.
>>
>>hey, aren't those coconut things for passover, not Chanukah?
>
>That's right. Chanukah is latkes.
>
oh man oh manichewitz, is it ever!
Cheers,
Rainbow
>Ira.
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(Irasail) wrote:
> rai...@mydland.eng.sun.com (Queen of Infinite Space) wrote:
>
> >Ira Heller <ira...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>The ones where I have to read junk from maroons like this.
> >
> >hey, aren't those coconut things for passover, not Chanukah?
>
> That's right. Chanukah is latkes.
Chanukah is chyna kate's Hebrew name.
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