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Is That A Sears Poncho or a Serious Poncho?

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Jerry Grau

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May 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/30/98
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I've seen several people reference this line in posts here, and everyone
quotes it as 'a Sears poncho.' I've never been able to tell if he was
saying 'a Sears poncho' or 'a serious poncho.' How is everyone so sure?

Jerry Grau
Ode to Jerry Garcia - http://home.att.net/~jergrau/

John Fox

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It's definitely "Sears", Frank told me.

Big John

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Taprsction

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Serious chains...
Sears poncho...
Zircon encrusted tweezers......
too bad FZ tapes arent as easily attainable as DEAD tapes
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SAINTCROIX

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>too bad FZ tapes arent as easily attainable as DEAD tapes

That's because Frank can't do that on stage anymore...

Henry B Kelley

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I wish I had a copy of that '77 show I saw in Hartford CT.

Taprsction (taprs...@aol.com) wrote:
: Serious chains...


: Sears poncho...
: Zircon encrusted tweezers......

: too bad FZ tapes arent as easily attainable as DEAD tapes

8 in '98!
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Jerry Grau

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May 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM5/31/98
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Subject: Re: Is That A Sears Poncho or a Serious Poncho?From:
saint...@aol.com (SAINTCROIX), AOL http://www.aol.comDate: 30 May 1998
14:40:36 GMT

>too bad FZ tapes arent as easily attainable as DEAD tapes

That's because Frank can't do that on stage anymore...

anubis

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On 30 May 1998 08:45:50 GMT, Jerry Grau <Jer...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>I've seen several people reference this line in posts here, and everyone
>quotes it as 'a Sears poncho.' I've never been able to tell if he was
>saying 'a Sears poncho' or 'a serious poncho.' How is everyone so sure?
>
>Jerry Grau
>Ode to Jerry Garcia - http://home.att.net/~jergrau/

EOD

"anybody ever try "Humping w/fries?"

Zamboni's Mom

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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jdoh...@tiac.net (John Doherty) wrote:

>In article <6kogvu$1...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>, Jerry Grau


><Jer...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> I've seen several people reference this line in posts here, and everyone
>> quotes it as 'a Sears poncho.' I've never been able to tell if he was
>> saying 'a Sears poncho' or 'a serious poncho.' How is everyone so sure?
>
>

>The actual quote is :
>
>Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho?,
>
>From some Zappa song, as others here have alluded.

Who you jiving with that Cosmic Debris?


Irasail

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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jdoh...@tiac.net (John Doherty) writes:

>Jerry Grau <Jer...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> I've seen several people reference this line in posts here, and everyone
>> quotes it as 'a Sears poncho.' I've never been able to tell if he was
>> saying 'a Sears poncho' or 'a serious poncho.' How is everyone so sure?
>
>The actual quote is :
>
>Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho?,
>
>From some Zappa song, as others here have alluded.

From some Zappa song indeed!

Album: Apostrophe(')
Song Title: Cosmik Debris

22 March 1974, 4:17 min.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Gordon (drums)
John Guerin (drums)
Aynsley Dunbar (drums)
Ralph Humphrey (drums)
Jack Bruce (bass)
Erroneous (bass)
Tom Fowler (bass)
Frank Zappa (bass, lead vocals, guitar)
George Duke (keyboards, background vocals)
Don "Sugar Cane" Harris (violin)
Jean-Luc Ponty (violin)
Ruth Underwood (percussion)
Ian Underwood (saxophone)
Napoleon Murphy Brock (saxophone, background vocals)
Sal Marquez (trumpet)
Bruce Fowler (trombone)
Ray Collins (background vocals)
Kerry McNabb (background vocals)
Susie Glower (background vocals)
Debbie (background vocals)
Lynn (background vocals)
Ruben Ladron De Guevara (background vocals)
Robert Camarena (background vocals)


The mystery man came over
And he said "I'm outta sight!"
He said for a nominal service charge
I could reach nirvana tonight
If I was ready, willing and able
To pay him his regular fee
He would drop all the rest of
His pressing affairs and devote
His attention to me

But I said "Look here brother
who you jiving with that cosmik debris?
Now who you jiving with that cosmik debris?
Look here brother, don't waste your time on me"

The mystery man got nervous
And he fidget around a bit
He reached in the pocket of his mystery robe
And he whipped out a shaving kit
Now I thought it was a razor
And a can of foaming goo
But he told me right then when the top popped open
There was nothin' his box won't do
With the oil of Aphrodite, and the dust of the Grand Wazoo
He said "You might not believe this, little fella
But it'll cure your asthma too"

And I said "Look here brother
Who you jiving with that cosmik debris?
Now what kind of a guru are you, anyway?
Look here brother, don't waste your time on me"
(Don't waste your time)

"I've got troubles of my own", I said
"And you can't help me out
So, take your meditations and your preparations
And ram it up your snout!"
"But I got the crystal ball", he said
And held it to the ligh
So I snatched it, all away from him
And I showed him how to do it right

I wrapped a newspaper 'round my head
So I looked like I was deep
I said some mumbo-jumbo, then
I told him he was going to sleep
I robbed his rings and pocketwatch
And everything else I found
I had that sucker hypnotized
He couldn't even make a sound
I proceeded to tell him his future, then
As long as he was hanging around
I said "The price of meat has just gone up
And your old lady has just gone down!"

And I said "Look here brother-who you
Jiving with that cosmik debris?
Now is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?
Don't you know, you could make more money as a butcher?
So, don't waste your time on me"
Don't waste it, don't waste your time on me
(Shanti)

< http://www.fwi.uva.nl/~heederik/zappa/ >

Apostrophe(') is essential Zappa.

Regards, Ira Heller.
- -
Don't let your fears get in the way of your dreams.

Homepage of the New England Multihull Association
http://www.shore.net/~nema
- -

DBrophy479

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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>>Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho?,

Wasn't that line used earlier (a spoken line,actually) in the song
"Camarillo Brillo"?

Kristopher Rikken

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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That's what I thought. I don't remember it in Cosmic Debris. Do you
suppose he was jiving us?

Nostalgic recollection: It should be noted that Sears ponchos serve as
excellent dropcloths and groundcovers. We used one every Fourth of July on
the Mall in Washington, D.C., which kept us from the damp well into the
night. They are truly serious ponchos.

K


PZerbo

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Jun 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/1/98
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m-ca...@world.std.com writes:

>>Kristopher Rikken <kri...@ut.ee wrote:>
>>On 1 Jun 1998, DBrophy479 wrote:
>>> >>Is that a real poncho or a Sears poncho?,
>>> Wasn't that line used earlier (a spoken line,actually) in the song
>>> "Camarillo Brillo"?
>>That's what I thought. I don't remember it in Cosmic Debris. Do you
>>suppose he was jiving us?
>

>I think it's in both but could someone please post the lyrics to
>Dina-mo-hum so we can be sure it's not mentioned in there too ?

Cosmik Debris, from the Apostrophe(') album, contains the lyrics:

"Now is that a real poncho or is that a Sears poncho?
Don't you know, you could make more money as a butcher?
So, don't waste your time on me""

Camarillo Brillo, from the Over-Nite Sensation album, contains the lyrics:

(Is that a real poncho...I mean
Is that a Mexican poncho


or is that a Sears poncho?

Hmmm...no foolin' ...)

Dinah-Moe-Hum, nor to my knowledge any other Zappa tune, contain any additional
references to ponchos (Sears, Mexican, real, or otherwise). The best reference
site for these types of questions is St. Alphonzo's Pancake Homepage, @
http://www.wins.uva.nl/~heederik/zappa/index.html. Gotta love those .nl
sites...

Do you think I can interest you in a pair of zircon-incrusted tweezers?

-Phillip

William Schneider, Jr.

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Jun 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/3/98
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The FZ "Sears Poncho" line comes up on one of the "Can't Do That On Stage
Anymore" series. Off the top of my head, I can't remember which one though.
Of course, the top of my head is covered in hair, and I don't think hair
could remember something like that.

-William

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>Serious chains...
>Sears poncho...
>Zircon encrusted tweezers......

>too bad FZ tapes arent as easily attainable as DEAD tapes

Steve Hsu

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Jun 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/6/98
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I just wandered thru here and recognized your "quote"
If it's Zappa youre referring to, It's definately a SEARS Poncho
I'm sure because of the printed lyrics on
Apostrophie/OverniteSensation
Otherwise....I dont know.


On 30 May 1998 08:45:50 GMT, Jerry Grau <Jer...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

>I've seen several people reference this line in posts here, and everyone
>quotes it as 'a Sears poncho.' I've never been able to tell if he was
>saying 'a Sears poncho' or 'a serious poncho.' How is everyone so sure?
>

Mamabeck

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Jun 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/7/98
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Camarillo Brillo 1st use of Sears Poncho

Edward S. Bick

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Jun 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/7/98
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> On 30 May 1998 08:45:50 GMT, Jerry Grau <Jer...@worldnet.att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I've seen several people reference this line in posts here, and everyone
> >quotes it as 'a Sears poncho.' I've never been able to tell if he was
> >saying 'a Sears poncho' or 'a serious poncho.' How is everyone so sure?
> >

Well, first of all, as someone else confirmed, it is in fact "Sear's"
poncho.

To answer the "How is everyone so sure", you just have to understand
where Frank is coming from. In context, "Serious" just doesn't work.

The line was used twice. in Camarillo Brillo, it's a little more clear
when he says "Is that a real Poncho, I mean is that a Mexican Poncho, or
is that a Sear's Poncho" implying that when you buy stuff from big
department stores, you're getting duped if you think your getting
something authentic.

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