Cornell 77
Scott Collins
Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
there too.
deanw...@hotmail.com
Is this one even circulating????
In article <O7dqda4R9GA.263@upnetnews03>,
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In article <O7dqda4R9GA.263@upnetnews03> "Scott Collins" <pier_t...@email.msn.com> writes:
>Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
>Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
>there too.
Didn't you hear, it actually sucks:-) :-) :-)
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Dave
Yes, but it's very hard to find as it's not in really big demand.
deanw...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Is this one even circulating????
>
> In article <O7dqda4R9GA.263@upnetnews03>,
> "Scott Collins" <pier_t...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
> > Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
> > there too.
> >
> >
>
bruce higgins
deanw...@hotmail.com wrote:
|Is this one even circulating????
|
| "Scott Collins" <pier_t...@email.msn.com> wrote:
|>
|> Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
|> Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
|> there too.
Yes this tape does indeed circulate. I once heard a quite nice soundboard
of it. Decent Scarlet>Fire, if I recall. J
bruce higgins ~ lbh2 at cornell dot edu ~ http://tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu
"But the words I received ran in code/Broken signals from before"
conn...@erols.com
Scott Collins wrote:
>
> Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
> Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
> there too.
Hey Scott,
I have a soundboard quality tape of Cornell 5/8/77 (180 min). It was my
first bootleg, and I never get tired of hearing it. If you want to
trade give me a shout.
Brendan Kelly
conn...@erols.com
Richard Barrett
They played Cornell in 77???
Kelly Humphries
On 4 Mar 1998, Scratchie wrote:
> Todd Brown <br...@sunspot.noao.edu> wrote:
> :>"Scott Collins" <pier_t...@email.msn.com> writes:
> :>Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
> :>Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome
> :>Morning Dew in there too.
>
> : Didn't you hear, it actually sucks:-) :-) :-)
>
> Besides, that tape is impossible to find in good quality.
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In article <6dkit2$1sh$1...@newsd-154.iap.bryant.webtv.net> barr...@webtv.net (Richard Barrett) writes:
>They played Cornell in 77???
I don't know?
How'z it go?
bruce higgins
conn...@erols.com wrote:
|Scott Collins wrote:
|>
|> Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
|> Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
|> there too.
|
|Hey Scott,
|I have a soundboard quality tape of Cornell 5/8/77 (180 min). It was my
|first bootleg, and I never get tired of hearing it. If you want to
|trade give me a shout.
|Brendan Kelly
|conn...@erols.com
Aw geeez Brendan, how come you had to go and spoil all our fun?
Goddamned good-natured generous 'heads...
L. Bruce Higgins \\ lbh2 at cornell dot edu \\ http://Tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu
"once in a while you see the strangest things in the light, right?"
Todd Brown
In article <myaddressis-04...@cu-dialup-0925.cit.cornell.edu> myadd...@mysig.edu (bruce higgins) writes:
>conn...@erols.com wrote:
>
>|Scott Collins wrote:
>|>
>|> Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
>|> Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
>|> there too.
>|
>|Hey Scott,
>|I have a soundboard quality tape of Cornell 5/8/77 (180 min). It was my
>|first bootleg, and I never get tired of hearing it. If you want to
>|trade give me a shout.
>|Brendan Kelly
>|conn...@erols.com
>
>Aw geeez Brendan, how come you had to go and spoil all our fun?
>Goddamned good-natured generous 'heads...
I knew we'd flush one of them out eventually:-)
Mark Henteleff
>
>|Scott Collins wrote:
>|>
>|> Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
>|> Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
>|> there too.
>|
Don't bother searching for a trade. It'll be out in the near future
as Dick's Picks MCCVVIXXXIV, in stores on the 100th anniversary of the
show.
good show, a bit underrated
Mark H.
John Berger
Todd Brown (br...@sunspot.noao.edu) wrote:
: In article <6dkit2$1sh$1...@newsd-154.iap.bryant.webtv.net> barr...@webtv.net (Richard Barrett) writes:
: >They played Cornell in 77???
: I don't know?
: How'z it go?
Grateful Dead 58, Cornell 77
JWeber223
>>Is this one even circulating????
Yeah, but I heard that it starts in the middle of "minglewood"...who needs
that?
John Weber
mind at large, connoiseuer of bad taste, observer of mass idiocy
Libertyville, IL
"play that song about the trucks, dad!" -Eric, age 3
"
Mitch Gilbert
In article <Pine.A41.3.96a.98030...@dante07.u.washington.edu>,
Kelly Humphries <kpi...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>jtfc vault archives
>5877 Cornell Way
>Grand Cayman
>Cayman Islands
>
>Structure will be announced when we're good and done with this barrel of
>rum.
>
>NOTE: There will be NO two-for-ones on this tree! If you have multiple
>copies of 5/8/77, please sign up for the tree as many times as you need
>until they all are back "in the vault."
>
Can we send our poor A+++ copies?
Mitch
Jonathan Lobdell
You guys are killing me. See my post at 5/8/77.
Jonathan
The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee
>They played Cornell in 77???
No they didn't, but the Barton Hall show is often mislabelled as
having been played at Cornell.
Brent Gregersen
Plus it's not even worth it. Go for the 86 shows- they're much better.
Dave wrote:
> Yes, but it's very hard to find as it's not in really big demand.
>
> deanw...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Is this one even circulating????
> >
> > In article <O7dqda4R9GA.263@upnetnews03>,
> > "Scott Collins" <pier_t...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone have good copies of the Cornell show from 77 with that St.
> > > Stephen>Not Fade Away>St. Stephen, I think there's an awesome Morning Dew in
> > > there too.
> > >
> > >
> >
Gordon Gullahorn
Hate to break it to you John, but looks like you are one of the many
who got fooled by this very clever composite tape put together by
a certain famous taper many years ago. There was actually no show
on that date at that venue. Nonetheless, it's an interesting and
enjoyable tape.
Does anyone have the original posting/confession dealing with the
creation of this famous fake? I'm pretty sure I read it here in the
past year or so.
gg
On 11 Mar 1998, John Hostler wrote:
> Cornell '77 IS widely circulated. The tapes have generally first-rate sound
> (many smooth-sounding boards), and contain some of the hottest playing
> you'll ever hear. You're CRAZY to say they're not worth it!!!!!!!! This
> show ranks in the top ten of most all-time best lists. I can't think of one
> '86 show that comes close. (Maybe the Bo Diddley jam w/ the Nevilles... but
> that's it.)
>
>
> Brent Gregersen <bgre...@ucsd.edu> wrote in article
> <3504EA2E...@ucsd.edu>...
Kelly Humphries
> Gordon Gullahorn <gordon@saotether.*NO*SPAM*harvard.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Hate to break it to you John, but looks like you are one of the many
> > who got fooled by this very clever composite tape put together by
> > a certain famous taper many years ago. There was actually no show
> > on that date at that venue. Nonetheless, it's an interesting and
> > enjoyable tape.
To which John Hostler replied:
> 5/8/77, Barton Hall, Cornell University actually happened - unless The
> Official Book of the DH's and several unrelated set list sites are fibbing.
> I believe (but am not sure) that Gans may have even spoken about it. David
> - any feedback? Have we all been swindled?
No...only one of us... ;-)
TomRawson
>5/8/77, Barton Hall, Cornell University actually happened
I hope it happened! I was there. (I think.)
bruce higgins
"John Hostler" <Hos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
|5/8/77, Barton Hall, Cornell University actually happened - unless The
|Official Book of the DH's and several unrelated set list sites are fibbing.
|I believe (but am not sure) that Gans may have even spoken about it. David
|- any feedback? Have we all been swindled?
John, stop watching the X-Files, dammit!!!
Ken Kleber
On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Kelly Humphries wrote:
}> Gordon Gullahorn <gordon@saotether.*NO*SPAM*harvard.edu> wrote:
}> >
}> > Hate to break it to you John, but looks like you are one of the many
}> > who got fooled by this very clever composite tape put together by
}> > a certain famous taper many years ago. There was actually no show
}> > on that date at that venue. Nonetheless, it's an interesting and
}> > enjoyable tape.
}
}To which John Hostler replied:
}
}> 5/8/77, Barton Hall, Cornell University actually happened - unless The
}> Official Book of the DH's and several unrelated set list sites are fibbing.
}> I believe (but am not sure) that Gans may have even spoken about it. David
}> - any feedback? Have we all been swindled?
}
}No...only one of us... ;-)
Wait a minute, Kelly. Are you implying that this show really does
circulate? C'mon man, stop pulling my leg! And to think I stopped
looking a couple of years ago....
Ken
k-kleber*at*uiuc.edu
******************************************************************************
"Depend on the wind of distant drums...
We'll know the next step when it comes"
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Gordon Gullahorn
On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Ken Kleber wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Kelly Humphries wrote:
>
> }> Gordon Gullahorn <gordon@saotether.*NO*SPAM*harvard.edu> wrote:
> }> >
> }> > Hate to break it to you John, but looks like you are one of the many
> }> > who got fooled by this very clever composite tape put together by
> }> > a certain famous taper many years ago. There was actually no show
> }> > on that date at that venue. Nonetheless, it's an interesting and
> }> > enjoyable tape.
> }
> }To which John Hostler replied:
> }
> }> 5/8/77, Barton Hall, Cornell University actually happened - unless The
> }> Official Book of the DH's and several unrelated set list sites are fibbing.
> }> I believe (but am not sure) that Gans may have even spoken about it. David
> }> - any feedback? Have we all been swindled?
> }
> }No...only one of us... ;-)
>
> Wait a minute, Kelly. Are you implying that this show really does
> circulate? C'mon man, stop pulling my leg! And to think I stopped
> looking a couple of years ago....
Hey Ken, I think Kelly was implying that JOHN is the "only one of us"
to be swindled by that clever composite. John obviously hasn't heard
of the well-documented conspiracy to convince the deadhead world that
5-8-77 is a real show. I think it really shows the humor alive in
our world that Gans, the DeadBase folk and others have carried on
the tradition of pushing this as not only actual, but "one of the best" ;-).
Why, Jeff Tiedrich even ran a tree of this supposed tape a few months
ago! Clearly, John needs to watch more X-Files.
Can anyone post the original confession as to how this was made?
It was reposted here in the last year or so, and I thought I saved it,
but can't find it.
bruce higgins
I was rummaging through some old posts, and I stumbled across this piece
of research.
"BARTON HALL, ITHACA, NY 5/8/77"
Track listing Actual Source
------------ ---------------
1.Minglewood Blues [4:47] Winterland 3/20/77
2.Loser [7:30] Springfield 4/23/77
3.El Paso [4:22] Chicago 5/13/77
4.They Love Each Other [6:59] Lakeland 5/21/77
5.Jack Straw [6:00] Tempe 10/6/77
6.Deal [5:43] St. Paul 5/11/77
7.Lazy Lightnin' [3:29] > St. Louis 5/15/77
8.Supplication [4:21] "
9.Brown-Eyed Women [5:12] Winterland 6/8/77
10.Mama Tried [2:37] Seattle 9/29/77
11.Row Jimmy [10:52] Fox, Atlanta 5/19/77
12.Dancin' in the Streets [15:43] Pembroke Pines 5/22/77 (DP3)
Set II:
13.Scarlet Begonias [9:14] > ???
14.Fire on the Mountain [15:21] ???
15.Estimated Prophet [8:32] Passaic NJ 4/27/77
16.St. Stephen [4:43] > Mostly Passaic NJ 6/1876
17.Not Fade Away [16:22] > with some tricky splicing of the
18.St. Stephen [1:53] > middle of an unidentifed NFA
19.Morning Dew [13:36] Cow Palace 12/31/76
Encore:
20.One More Saturday Night [4:54] Springfield 4/23/77
Did anybody *ever* figure out where that Scarlet Fire came from????
joe troxel
bruce higgins wrote:
>
> I was rummaging through some old posts, and I stumbled across this piece
> of research.
<most of "barton hall" setlist snipped>
> 7.Lazy Lightnin' [3:29] > St. Louis 5/15/77
> 8.Supplication [4:21] "
this actually surprises me. i had assumed that the huge splice
in this sequence was because they were sourced from two different
shows.
goes to show you don't ever know.
later. joe.
you ain't gonna learn what you don't wanna know
jeff tiedrich
In article <TO-DSPAM-130...@tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu>,
TO-DSPAM@translate_mysig.edu (bruce higgins) wrote:
> I was rummaging through some old posts, and I stumbled across this piece
> of research.
>
>
> "BARTON HALL, ITHACA, NY 5/8/77"
>
> Track listing Actual Source
> ------------ ---------------
> 1.Minglewood Blues [4:47] Winterland 3/20/77
> 2.Loser [7:30] Springfield 4/23/77
> 3.El Paso [4:22] Chicago 5/13/77
> 4.They Love Each Other [6:59] Lakeland 5/21/77
> 5.Jack Straw [6:00] Tempe 10/6/77
> 6.Deal [5:43] St. Paul 5/11/77
> 7.Lazy Lightnin' [3:29] > St. Louis 5/15/77
> 8.Supplication [4:21] "
> 9.Brown-Eyed Women [5:12] Winterland 6/8/77
> 10.Mama Tried [2:37] Seattle 9/29/77
> 11.Row Jimmy [10:52] Fox, Atlanta 5/19/77
> 12.Dancin' in the Streets [15:43] Pembroke Pines 5/22/77 (DP3)
>
> Set II:
>
> 13.Scarlet Begonias [9:14] > ???
> 14.Fire on the Mountain [15:21] ???
> 15.Estimated Prophet [8:32] Passaic NJ 4/27/77
> 16.St. Stephen [4:43] > Mostly Passaic NJ 6/18/76
> 17.Not Fade Away [16:22] > with some tricky splicing of the
> 18.St. Stephen [1:53] > middle of an unidentifed NFA
> 19.Morning Dew [13:36] Cow Palace 12/31/76
>
> Encore:
>
> 20.One More Saturday Night [4:54] Springfield 4/23/77
>
>
> Did anybody *ever* figure out where that Scarlet Fire came from????
Studio rehearsal, 2/20/77.
.tiedrich
--
jeff#tiedrich,com <-- figure it out "Get your nose out of
see the Resources For Tape Traders web tiedrich's ass -- he's
page at http://www.tiedrich.com/tapelist/ a jerk!" -- anonymous
Gordon Gullahorn
This sounds pretty definitive to me. Can anyone dispute these
indisputible facts?
On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, bruce higgins wrote:
>
> I was rummaging through some old posts, and I stumbled across this piece
> of research.
>
>
> "BARTON HALL, ITHACA, NY 5/8/77"
>
> Track listing Actual Source
> ------------ ---------------
> 1.Minglewood Blues [4:47] Winterland 3/20/77
> 2.Loser [7:30] Springfield 4/23/77
> 3.El Paso [4:22] Chicago 5/13/77
> 4.They Love Each Other [6:59] Lakeland 5/21/77
> 5.Jack Straw [6:00] Tempe 10/6/77
> 6.Deal [5:43] St. Paul 5/11/77
> 7.Lazy Lightnin' [3:29] > St. Louis 5/15/77
> 8.Supplication [4:21] "
> 9.Brown-Eyed Women [5:12] Winterland 6/8/77
> 10.Mama Tried [2:37] Seattle 9/29/77
> 11.Row Jimmy [10:52] Fox, Atlanta 5/19/77
> 12.Dancin' in the Streets [15:43] Pembroke Pines 5/22/77 (DP3)
But not from DP3. This sbd was obviously circulating among "connected"
circles years before official release. Fox? Scully?
>
> Set II:
>
> 13.Scarlet Begonias [9:14] > ???
> 14.Fire on the Mountain [15:21] ???
> 15.Estimated Prophet [8:32] Passaic NJ 4/27/77
> 16.St. Stephen [4:43] > Mostly Passaic NJ 6/1876
> 17.Not Fade Away [16:22] > with some tricky splicing of the
> 18.St. Stephen [1:53] > middle of an unidentifed NFA
> 19.Morning Dew [13:36] Cow Palace 12/31/76
>
> Encore:
>
> 20.One More Saturday Night [4:54] Springfield 4/23/77
>
>
> Did anybody *ever* figure out where that Scarlet Fire came from????
Please. I'd love to get the whole show for this. Must be a great one.
gg
Douger
John Hostler wrote:
>
> 5/8/77, Barton Hall, Cornell University actually happened - unless The
> Official Book of the DH's and several unrelated set list sites are fibbing.
> I believe (but am not sure) that Gans may have even spoken about it. David
> - any feedback? Have we all been swindled?
Pretty impressive prank, don'tcha think??
......Douger
"He's a mastermind in the ways of espionage"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
douger...@unix.asb.com - remove .bounce to email
http://bertha.wwimpact.com/gdtapelists
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JohnCVA
In article <TO-DSPAM-130...@tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu>,
TO-DSPAM@translate_mysig.edu (bruce higgins) writes:
>
>Did anybody *ever* figure out where that Scarlet Fire came from????
>
>
sounds like the Spectrum, 4/22/77 ;-)
peace,
john a
bruce higgins
"John Hostler" <Hos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
|Yeah Yeah Yeah...
|
|I'd like to see the ORIGIN of the "reverse" swindle! I KNOW there's a
|goverment-led conspiracy to make me think that YOU are trying to make me
|think thatYOU (as a group) have been scamming US (as a small group) into
|the belief of 5-8-77 as an actual occurence. It's all the goverment,
|dammit!
So, "you" think that "we" think that "you" think that "we" think that "we"
could perpetrate a CIA instigated "reverse swindle" on "you" that the
alleged or actual show on 5/8/77 did or did not happen?
In order to figure this out, we need to have the tapes analyzed to
triangulate the echoes in order to determine if there was a second rhythym
guitar player on the grassy knoll (Libe Slope).
Further, somebody has to account for the "magic guitar pick", the fact
that Barton Hall (among other things, the home of Cornell's Campus Police,
BTW)security would have had to have been incomprehensibly lax that evening
to allow such goings on, and how Jerome Garcia, a notoriously inaccurate
guitar player, could have hit those notes in St. Stephen so rapidly, in
succession from the far eastern extremities of Barton Hall. Not Bloody
Likely!
Owsley...Oswald...
So many clues, so little time.
B___, who actually has a poster promoting the September '78 Cornell Dead show...
bruce higgins ~ lbh2 at cornell dot edu ~ http://tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu
"Yeah I want Cheesy Poofs!"
David Gans
Gordon Gullahorn wrote:
> Hey Ken, I think Kelly was implying that JOHN is the "only one of us"
> to be swindled by that clever composite. John obviously hasn't heard
> of the well-documented conspiracy to convince the deadhead world that
> 5-8-77 is a real show. I think it really shows the humor alive in
> our world that Gans, the DeadBase folk and others have carried on
> the tradition of pushing this as not only actual, but "one of the
> best" ;-).
> Why, Jeff Tiedrich even ran a tree of this supposed tape a few months
> ago! Clearly, John needs to watch more X-Files.
I admit it. I was taken in, too, by this clever fake.
--
David Gans t...@well.com http://www.well.com/user/tnf/
Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave #102, Oakland CA 94610
Peter Van Runkle
David Gans t...@well.com wrote on Wed, 18 Mar 1998:
}Gordon Gullahorn wrote:
}> Hey Ken, I think Kelly was implying that JOHN is the "only one of us"
}> to be swindled by that clever composite. John obviously hasn't heard
}> of the well-documented conspiracy to convince the deadhead world that
}> 5-8-77 is a real show. I think it really shows the humor alive in
}> our world that Gans, the DeadBase folk and others have carried on
}> the tradition of pushing this as not only actual, but "one of the>
best" ;-).
}> Why, Jeff Tiedrich even ran a tree of this supposed tape a few months
}> ago! Clearly, John needs to watch more X-Files.
}I admit it. I was taken in, too, by this clever fake.
Y'know, the most amazing thing about this hoax is that whoever
perpetrated it was smart enough to mess up the beginning of Minglewood
and the transition jam between Lazy Lighting and Supplication to make it
seem more authentic!
Teddy GoodBear
Peter Van Runkle wrote in message:
:Y'know, the most amazing thing about this hoax is that whoever
:perpetrated it was smart enough to mess up the beginning of Minglewood
:and the transition jam between Lazy Lighting and Supplication to make it
:seem more authentic!
That's funny because my aud/0, which I hoaxed myself into making on 5/8/77, has a clean Minglewood & an INTACT LL > Supp. transition jam.
I'm not accepting any grovels for this until the month of May. AGAIN, Please no grovels - except maybe Douger for the LL > Supp., :) . Hey Douger, did I send you that one yet?
:}> The WINNER for DP 11:
:}> Something unheard off in SBD from 1973(WM, Boston, you name it..but probably
:}> from fall.
9/8/73, I hope!
Teddy :^) [now trading over 35 artists]
For my slow graphical framed tape lists [May need to Refresh 2x]:
< http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/2635/master.html >
For no frames: < http://www.angelfire.com/fl/goodbear/artists.html >
John Martin
I think there's mention of this in that wonderful "gone nuts" book, "Behold
A Pale Horse".
-JC Martin
Teddy GoodBear <SeeMySi...@GoAway.com> wrote in article
<yQ%P.207$pJ.12...@news4.mia.bellsouth.net>...
9/8/73, I hope!
----------
ph119
hey guys! there is a nasty rumor from david ganz that our beloved show
was all a rouse. yes, that is correct, a FAKE! it is hard to believe
but the word on the street is that. however, if it is infact, my hat
is off to whomever had enough brains to even put together a show off
the top of their HEAD. you fooled me, but great job!
MIRACLEPIG
This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell. My first show.
Trust me.
Todd Brown
In article <199803302048...@ladder01.news.aol.com> mirac...@aol.com (MIRACLEPIG) writes:
>This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell. My first show.
>Trust me.
See how good they were! :-)
You actually though you were there!
NTAP, inc. :-)
PEACE, faith,
FURTHUR----------------------------------------------------THRIVE!!!!!
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>TODD|-ODD-|:-) | Nothing Left To Do But <
>br...@sunspot.noao.edu /|\ :-) :-) :-) <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Aaron Gangross
ph119 <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
<351feda5...@news.mindspring.com>...
> hey guys! there is a nasty rumor from david ganz that our beloved show
> was all a rouse. yes, that is correct, a FAKE! it is hard to believe
> but the word on the street is that. however, if it is infact, my hat
> is off to whomever had enough brains to even put together a show off
> the top of their HEAD. you fooled me, but great job!
>
Also did a damn good job of fooling all the people who were in attendance,
unless they're in on this joke too.
Aaron
bruce higgins
mirac...@aol.com (MIRACLEPIG) wrote:
|This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell. My first show.
|Trust me.
I heard from a friend of a cousin of one of the roadies on the '77 tour
that the Dead stopped in Ithaca on the way to the Buffalo show on 5/9, had
a few drinks and meatball subs* at Johnny's Big Red, AND THAT WAS THE
EXTENT IT.
No show. Bad MiraclePig (Like I would trust anyone called
mirac...@aol.com) No meatball sub for you.
* Anybody wondering how the road from Boston to Buffalo came to run
through Ithaca has never had a Johnny's PMP ;-)
L. Bruce Higgins \\ lbh2 at cornell dot edu \\ http://Tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu
"Most of the day, we were at the machinery..."
GATEFOLD SLEEVE
In article <199803302048...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
MIRACLEPIG <mirac...@aol.com> wrote:
>This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell. My first show.
>Trust me.
Yo, Mr. LePig, the hoax is over. There's no need to keep up pretenses
anymore.
--xian
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Brown Family
OK, here's what REALLY happened...Yes, there was a show at Cornell on
5/8/77. Elvis gave up on the death hoax and joined the boys that night.
Unfortunately he couldn't pull his weight. The King's job that night was
too fill in for Donna who was hosting the Academy Awards. Well, during the
jam from Scarlet into Fire, Elvis let loose. He crooned and "OOOOH"ed as
best he could but knew deep down that he was washed up. So Elvis and the
Dead conspired to hypnotize the crowd with a steady rhynthic chant of "and
yet another step back". Pretty soon the crowd was in a trance and they were
played the soundcheck tapes from the spring tour. These tapes were later
compiled onto one reel and went into circulation as 5/8/77. Elvis went back
to being dead, and the Dead continued the tour as if nothing happened. The
truth is out there.
Joelife wrote in message
<199803310028...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
>I think Cornell is fake. I wasn't there, and I know there are people who
say
>they were, but I have a very hq copy of it, and every song has a completely
>different sound to it. Also, between EVERY song (except those played into
each
>other) there is a stop in the tape, and it picks up again sounding
completely
>different. I have heard TONS of shows and none of them seem to do this so
>drastically, if at all. Sorry to offend anyone. This is just my opinion and
I
>hope to be proven wrong since it is what got me to become a Deadhead, and
the
>Scarlet>Fire is AMAZING (I have to get the show it was originally from,
haha).
>Peace. Joe
> Joe
>Joe...@aol.com
bruce higgins
"Brown Family" <skeb...@erols.com> wrote:
|OK, here's what REALLY happened...Yes, there was a show at Cornell on
|5/8/77. Elvis gave up on the death hoax and joined the boys that night.
|Unfortunately he couldn't pull his weight. The King's job that night was
|too fill in for Donna who was hosting the Academy Awards. Well, during the
|jam from Scarlet into Fire, Elvis let loose. He crooned and "OOOOH"ed as
|best he could but knew deep down that he was washed up. So Elvis and the
|Dead conspired to hypnotize the crowd with a steady rhynthic chant of "and
|yet another step back". Pretty soon the crowd was in a trance and they were
|played the soundcheck tapes from the spring tour. These tapes were later
|compiled onto one reel and went into circulation as 5/8/77. Elvis went back
|to being dead, and the Dead continued the tour as if nothing happened. The
|truth is out there.
Errr, not quite, Mr. Stone...
Elvis was alive on 5/8/77, he didn't die until August 16 of that year.
While he may have shared a meatball sub with the Boyz at Johnny's Big Red
on 5/8/77, he had not yet begun to perpetrate his death hoax.
B___
DJDigitalDave
You guys are all crazy. 5-8-77 was really played by David Gans & The
Broken Angels.
bruce higgins wrote in message ...
Joelife
Aaron Gangross
Joelife <joe...@aol.com> wrote in article
<199803310028...@ladder03.news.aol.com>...
> I think Cornell is fake. I wasn't there, and I know there are people who
say
> they were, but I have a very hq copy of it, and every song has a
completely
> different sound to it. Also, between EVERY song (except those played into
each
> other) there is a stop in the tape, and it picks up again sounding
completely
> different.
> Peace. Joe
> Joe
I assume this post is a joke, but just in case...
You're wrong. There are not breaks between every song. I've been spinning
this show for people from that bootleg that's been passed around for 'head
to 'head and the only breaks are where there is a CD change. Plus, I once
got part of this show from someone using a different source without the
gaps that I have. Finally, try explaining the existence of Teddy
Goodbear's AUD tape of this show.
This thread is stupid but if anyone really believes that Cornell is a fake,
the rumor must be quashed.
Aaron
Charles McGarry
I missed the beginning of this thread, but I can say that I was at
Cornell in 1977, and there was no Dead show. They did play Utica at the
end of the year, though.
And, BTW, Elvis was still alive on 5/8/77. He was booked to play
Binghamton (50 or so miles from Cornell) in August 1977 and died a
couple weeks before the show.
Chas
Teddy GoodBear
Aaron Gangross wrote in message <6fps71$g...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>...
:
:gaps that I have. Finally, try explaining the existence of Teddy
:Goodbear's AUD tape of this show.
GoodBear's got an AUD tape of this show? Gee, I thought I was hoaxing myself, <g>!
No grovels for this will be allowed until early May. In the meantime, this tape is BOGUS, :).
Good...@NoSpamGeoCities.com ----- remove the NoSpam.
:}> The WINNER for DP 11:
:}> Something unheard off in SBD from 1973(WM, Boston, you name it..but probably
:}> from fall.
9/8/73, I hope!
Teddy :^) [now trading over 35 artists]
For my slow graphical framed tape lists [May need to Refresh 2x to see Info Page]:
< http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/2635/master.html > --- Info Page
For no frames: < http://www.angelfire.com/fl/goodbear/artists.html >
PS - When will the GDH play ANY of 9/8/73? Or maybe 6/22/69, is that in the vault?
bruce higgins
"Aaron Gangross" <promonto...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
|This thread is stupid but if anyone really believes that Cornell is a fake,
|the rumor must be quashed.
Oh, I can attest that Cornell is a very real, very low-paying, university.
It's just the alleged '77 Dead show that's a hoax.
TomRawson
The whole trip (1965-1995) was a hoax. All your tapes are fake.
Tom Rawson
Seattle WA
Hukt Awn Fonix werkt for mi!
The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee
On 30 Mar 1998 20:48:04 GMT, mirac...@aol.com (MIRACLEPIG) wrote:
>This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell. My first show.
>Trust me.
Nah, I heard the green stickers caused a bunch of people to
hallucinate that they were at a Dead show, but it was really just a
figment of your imagination.
--
The opinions of this poster do not necessarily reflect the
views of the Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee.
Thomas Wm. Conroy
OK, you were either there or you weren't, the show happened or it didn't.
What I want to know is whether or not Greatful Dead Merchandising is in on
this 'hoax' or not. If any of you received the most recent Greatful Dead
Almanac, look at the poster/print section and you'll see that there is a
reproduction advertising the show on 5/8/77 at Cornell.
Stranger and stranger...
Thomas
_________________________________________________________________________
Bob: After a song like that, a song about tragedy and murder and all that
kind of stuff, we'll do a quick little number about tragedy narrowly
adverted. But first -- oh, but first -- we're gonna take a peek at
the bass and see if it's coming along.
Phil: [Pause] ....Tragedy experienced....
__________________________________________________________________________
On 31 Mar 1998, Joelife wrote:
> I think Cornell is fake. I wasn't there, and I know there are people who say
> they were, but I have a very hq copy of it, and every song has a completely
> different sound to it. Also, between EVERY song (except those played into each
> other) there is a stop in the tape, and it picks up again sounding completely
9mi skid
Grateful Dead Productions is in on it?
They're making like it happened?
Sort of like the "Theatre of Madness" shows in Hawaii w/
It's A Beautiful Day (famous Rick Griffen Poster).
Well other than following mail order instructions,
please fellow travellers remember...
NEVER TRUST A PRANKSTER
The show was supposed to be release a la Without A Net or Dead Set.
It's a compilation. 'nuff said.
Thank You.
9mi skid
Abraham and Isaac sittin' on a fence
You'd get right to work if you had any sense...
****** end ******
Todd Brown
In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.98033...@ux8.cso.uiuc.edu> "Thomas Wm. Conroy" <tco...@students.uiuc.edu> writes:
>
>OK, you were either there or you weren't, the show happened or it didn't.
>What I want to know is whether or not Greatful Dead Merchandising is in on
>this 'hoax' or not. If any of you received the most recent Greatful Dead
>Almanac, look at the poster/print section and you'll see that there is a
>reproduction advertising the show on 5/8/77 at Cornell.
>
>Stranger and stranger...
Hey no stranger than the direction this entire thread has taken.
And it only took two words to get it going, well two key words.
NTAP, Inc.
pauli
On 30 Mar 1998 20:48:04 GMT, mirac...@aol.com (MIRACLEPIG) wrote:
>This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell.
and then, of course, there are those of us who still haven't left
Douger
Aaron Gangross wrote:
> Also did a damn good job of fooling all the people who were in attendance,
> unless they're in on this joke too.
Does anyone else remember reading an article in some magazine (coulda
been Relix, maybe not) back in ~1979 about how Woodstock was staged.
Apparently, they used the same 50 people over and over in different
clothes and poses, and the bands were edited in later.
(or am I halucinating this?)
......Douger (pass the Geritol {sp?}
"Just don't tell 'em you, know me"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
douger...@unix.asb.com - remove .bounce to email
http://bertha.wwimpact.com/gdtapelists
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
bruce higgins
"Thomas Wm. Conroy" <tco...@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:
|OK, you were either there or you weren't, the show happened or it didn't.
|What I want to know is whether or not Greatful Dead Merchandising is in on
|this 'hoax' or not. If any of you received the most recent Greatful Dead
|Almanac, look at the poster/print section and you'll see that there is a
|reproduction advertising the show on 5/8/77 at Cornell.
|
|Stranger and stranger...
Hey, I have a poster advertising another show that didn't happen at
Cornell, the September '78 Barton show, which was cancelled for some
reason or another.
The existence of a poster don't mean ca-ca.
The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee
What about those of us who haven't gotten there yet? Can someone
please give me a ride to 5/8/77?
bruce higgins
"John Hostler" <Hos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
|OK, guys, time to think of a FRESH joke. You're very handily proving the
|stereotypes of Deadhead brain cells true!
|
|What about the rumor that Jerry had a cardboard cut-out stand-in for
|several '95 shows (which might explain some of the playing)???
Dood, you continue to be behind the timz. That was never a rumor.
A cardboard cut-out propped up in front of a teleprompter...a metaphor for
our timz.
B____!
bruce higgins ~ lbh2 at cornell dot edu ~ http://tigermtn.dev.cornell.edu
"But the words I received ran in code/Broken signals from before"
David Pelovitz
John Hostler (Hos...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: OK, guys, time to think of a FRESH joke. You're very handily proving the
: stereotypes of Deadhead brain cells true!
: What about the rumor that Jerry had a cardboard cut-out stand-in for
: several '95 shows (which might explain some of the playing)???
That's just idiocy. No one who had a seat perpendicular to the stage
wopuld have been fooled. They'd have seen this thin ol' Jerry and
known something was up.
The truth is that Jerry was replaced by an animatronic replicant designed
by the good folk at Disney (in fact, I've heard it rumored that it
was actually the Millard Fillmore from the Hall of Presidents
with Jerry style hair added). Jerry simply took a break when the replicant
was brought in, and has been living comfortably in the South Pacific and
doing a lot of diving.
Unfortunately, getting Disney involved also led to Jerry's "death."
While Jerry was away on his vacation, Disney exercised their standard
policy of pulling their product from the market and keeping it
sequestered for 7 years until a new generation can come along and
fall in love with it. When the Dead tour again in 2002, expect
a large number of product tie ins to Happy Meals at McDonalds.
David Pelovitz, Ph.D. - pelo...@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu
"I can certainly talk about culture. It's my bread and
butter and I have no hesitation in talking about it.
For example, popular culture is particularly fun. In my
country we have a saying - Mickey mouse will see you dead."
Robert Stone
Drew Berry
John Hostler <Hos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<01bd5dd3$a0afcb80$45cebbcd@default>...
> OK, guys, time to think of a FRESH joke. You're very handily proving the
> stereotypes of Deadhead brain cells true!
>
> What about the rumor that Jerry had a cardboard cut-out stand-in for
> several '95 shows (which might explain some of the playing)???
Rumor? Just who, then, was inducted into the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame? It
was Cardboard Jerry, of course. And by the way, the last time I saw the
boys on 6/18/95, It was obviously the REAL Garcia attempting a comeback.
That can be proven by the fact that:
Cardboard Jerry doesn't blow lyrics.
Cardboard Jerry doesn't sweat profusely.
Cardboard Jerry would've played alot better that night.
What happened to Cardboard Jerry? I heard he got hooked on persian and
accidently lit himself on fire. In a matter of thirty seconds, he was a
small pile of ash.
But did Weir sprinkle him in the Ganges? Nooooo..........
DB
bruce higgins
Lincoln Mongillo
Hey now
bruce higgins wrote in message ...
>
>|John Hostler <Hos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
>|<01bd5dd3$a0afcb80$45cebbcd@default>...
>|> OK, guys, time to think of a FRESH joke. You're very handily proving the
>|> stereotypes of Deadhead brain cells true!
>|>
>|> What about the rumor that Jerry had a cardboard cut-out stand-in for
>|> several '95 shows (which might explain some of the playing)???
>|<<SNIP>>
>|
>|Rumor? Just who, then, was inducted into the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame? It
>|was Cardboard Jerry, of course. And by the way, the last time I saw the
>|boys on 6/18/95, It was obviously the REAL Garcia attempting a comeback.
>|That can be proven by the fact that:
>|
>|Cardboard Jerry doesn't blow lyrics.
>|Cardboard Jerry doesn't sweat profusely.
>|Cardboard Jerry would've played alot better that night.
>|
>|What happened to Cardboard Jerry? I heard he got hooked on persian and
>|accidently lit himself on fire. In a matter of thirty seconds, he was a
>|small pile of ash.
>
>
>Whatever happened to Fusilli Jerry?
>
why..cause he got sat on)
nfa
lincoln(I can't wait for Bob's Mac and Chesse)
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having had this tape for many years, i was excited to ask my brother about
barton hall once he began attending cornell. I had questions about the
size and shape of the hall which might have contributed to unique acoustics
and echo Betty captured on that night. so, as far as i can tell from my
brother, Barton IS at cornell
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ty Streeter
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ph119 <ph...@mindspring.com> wrote in article
> >>They played Cornell in 77???
> >
> >No they didn't, but the Barton Hall show is often mislabelled as
> >having been played at Cornell.
> >
>
>
The Sonny Bono Internet Tribute Committee
On 2 Apr 1998 01:08:47 GMT, "John Hostler" <Hos...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
>OK, guys, time to think of a FRESH joke. You're very handily proving the
>stereotypes of Deadhead brain cells true!
>
>What about the rumor that Jerry had a cardboard cut-out stand-in for
>several '95 shows (which might explain some of the playing)???
How naive are you??? Everyone knows he was replaced by a clothed
skeleton!
Rick
Anyone know where I could find a nice scan of the Cornell 5-8-77 show
poster? I already found one at at concert poster web site,but it is very
tiny. Interested in finding one that is suitable to make into a cover
for a cd jewel case.
-R
Jon T. Jacobsen
br...@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
> >This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell. My first show.
> >Trust me.
>
> See how good they were! :-)
>
> You actually though you were there!
>
If Terrapin Station can be a good as they were on that fateful day
then we are all set.....
Kelly Humphries
On 4 Apr 1998, Jon T. Jacobsen wrote:
> br...@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>
> > >someone wrote:
> > >
> > >This is crazy. I was at the show. It happened, at Cornell. My first
> > >show. Trust me.
> >
> > See how good they were! :-)
> >
> > You actually thought you were there!
> >
> If Terrapin Station can be a good as they were on that fateful day
> then we are all set.....
That's the best part. What had been circulating as "5/8/77" up until this
widespread urban myth was debunked here just a couple weeks ago, was in
fact a test of the holographic concert system which -will be- installed in
Terrapin Station. Barton Hall's PA, the show, the tapes...all originate
from the GD's monumental advances in imagery and sound production, which
of course did not end in 1995.
The interactive productions masterminded at Terrapin Station reached a
level of success such that, not long after the opening of TS, the band was
able to pick a date in the past on which there previously had been no
concert (in this case, a spring day in May 1977 between the Boston and
Buffalo shows), and run the concert hologram output generator at full bore
to see if it would withstand the intense forces eminating from the
"gravitational lens"[1] which would surround the band and their equipment
as they moved from the early 21st century back to 1977 (precious tube amps
ya know, gotta be careful with them suckers).
Betty Cantor-Jackson happened to be at Terrapin Station the day the plan
was put into action, and she was brought back along with the band's
equipment and personnel to see if analog recordings of these multimedia TS
productions could be moved through the "gravitational lens."
Unfortunately, she was caught in a snowstorm on the Cornell campus after
the "show" and her reels ended up being sent truckin' off to Buffalo when
her parking meter ran out. Fortunately, someone from the Moosewood
Restaurant had made too much kind veggie Shish-Kebab[2], and no one
suffered from anything worse than a mild case of ice cold doses.
As most people have been able to tell from the high-quality "tapes" that
have circulated of this "show," the experiment was wildly successful not
only in presenting a concert originating entirely from Terrapin Station
over 3000 miles and several decades away, but also in creating the
lifelike illusion among some people that the concert actually happened.
Hope that helps.
[1] Einstein proved it, man. Check out:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/hotnews/
stories/30/einstein.dtl
[2] no, that's not one of j's creations, it's on page 164 of the Moosewood
Cookbook.
kelly (what was the question?)
Mike Fallon
Douger <douger...@unix.asb.com> wrote:
>Aaron Gangross wrote:
>
>> Also did a damn good job of fooling all the people who were in attendance,
>> unless they're in on this joke too.
>
>Does anyone else remember reading an article in some magazine (coulda
>been Relix, maybe not) back in ~1979 about how Woodstock was staged.
>Apparently, they used the same 50 people over and over in different
>clothes and poses, and the bands were edited in later.
>
>(or am I halucinating this?)
>
>
>......Douger (pass the Geritol {sp?}
>
>
Of course, most of us know that Woodstock, as with most of the 60's,
was staged as part of the Cia's secret mind control experiments. It
must be true. I read it on the Internet.
peace,
Mike
TD has no tape list here...http://www.telerama.com/~ffrink/tdpage1.htm