Re: Double E Waterfall?

Jperdue4

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Oct 13, 2004, 11:38:12 AM10/13/04

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What is a double e waterfall?...Ive always wondered that..
Man i love that song!!...I think im gonna go listen right now...
You know, i still really dig thsat version of Europe 72..
jonp

MarleyLeaf4u

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Oct 14, 2004, 9:30:49 AM10/14/04

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You ever see the picture of my waterfall jon perdue ? its definatly Double E
wide lol ......ah lifes nice ........ :)))))))))))))

Jperdue4

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Oct 14, 2004, 11:30:02 AM10/14/04

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>methinks it was 5/3/72, Paris. There are circulating tapes ... er,
>CDs, I think you call them nowadays? Anyway, um, look up "Gans
>Honeymoon Tapes" for the sordid story of soundboards which ended up
>with the Europe '72 tracks being inserted to replace the original
>recordings.
>
>No, I don't know why.
>
>No, I don't know if more recently circulated versions have had the
>Europe '72 album tracks removed and replaced by the untouched
>versions.

Ha,,,I have some of those and always wondered why that was done...I will look
up that story...Is that the story about the house being broken into during his
honeymoon and the show were stolen, copied , then returned or some
thing?..LOL>.....that was a funny story...
JonP

tthomas@remove_to_reply

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Oct 13, 2004, 12:41:13 PM10/13/04

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Jperdue4 wrote:
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> What is a double e waterfall?...[...]

It's an oil painting by e.e. cummings called "waterfall"...

(e.e. = double e)

Jperdue4

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Oct 14, 2004, 1:42:27 PM10/14/04

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> Anyway, um, look up "Gans
>> Honeymoon Tapes" for the sordid story of soundboards which ended up
>> with the Europe '72 tracks being inserted to replace the original

I googled gans honeymoon tapes with no luck..Any ideas?
JonP

the wharf rat

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Oct 14, 2004, 5:02:25 AM10/14/04

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>What is a double e waterfall?...Ive always wondered that..

A Bass violin, a standup bass, is tuned so that it's
lowest string sound "double E", third E below middle C. A double
E waterfall is a waterfall that's so big it sounds the lowest bass
notes instead of the tinkling upper registers or more subtly moving
liquids...

southforkk

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Oct 14, 2004, 4:56:35 PM10/14/04

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"Kelly Humphries" <kpiscesatspeakeasydotnet@> wrote in message
news:8rdsm0t2epa7rvu21...@4ax.com...
> Also sprach jper...@aol.com (Jperdue4):
>
> > News Poster wrote:

> >
> > >Jperdue4" wrote:
> > >
> > >> What is a double e waterfall?...Ive always wondered that..

> > >> Man i love that song!!...I think im gonna go listen right now...
> > >> You know, i still really dig thsat version of Europe 72..
> > >

> > >Which show was China-Rider taken from? I have always been curious to
know
> > >how the "untouched" version sounded ...
> >
> > Just off the top o mah head, i THINK it was 5-26-72....
>
> methinks it was 5/3/72, Paris

This is correct.
Jack Straw, China Cat Sunflower, I Know You Rider and Tennessee Jed were
all from Olympia Theatre- May 3, 1972

I had heard somewhere that the double E waterfall refers to the water tanks
along the railroads, A double E waterfall was a shower for a weary railroad
worker.

Here are more theories after a google search:
http://arts.ucsc.edu/gdead/agdl/china.html#ee
http://www.edlis.org/twice/threads/double_ees.html

DBrophy479

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Oct 13, 2004, 1:53:15 PM10/13/04

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leftie n...@spam.com wrote;

>Besides the painting, a guitar has two E strings. Clearly Garcia played
>"double E waterfalls" at times with his extremely liquid playing. No?

I don't know.What's a double E waterfall?

jminpa

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Oct 13, 2004, 2:30:09 PM10/13/04

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We could look here, too:
http://arts.ucsc.edu/GDead/AGDL/china.html#ee

Jperdue4

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Oct 14, 2004, 11:30:47 AM10/14/04

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yeah that was nice jp...
JonP

Kelly Humphries

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Oct 15, 2004, 3:09:52 AM10/15/04

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http://www.jambands.com/oct98/features/iarrobino.html

"Dick: <...> 9/28[/72] was one I got from Kid when I first met someone
in The Grateful Dead in '79 and I coaxed him out of that show, and I
gave it to five friends who I thought would never give it out and then
and of course, we know what happens when you give a tape out to a
Deadhead taper. I mean let's discuss the phenomenon of tape collecting
and trading. I mean, do you rob your neighbor of his tape collection
because he has it and he won't give it to you? Is he an idiot for
having it and not giving it to you?

[jambands.com]: What I think Dick is referring to here is an incident
known as *The Honeymoon Tape Theft* Apparently, David Gans, host of
The Grateful Dead Hour and author of Playing in the Band, returned
from his honeymoon to find that someone had broken into his home and
robbed him of some uncirculated reels of shows from 1972, specifically
Paris, 5/3 and 5/4. These reels were on loan to him from Dick Latvala
for use on The Grateful Dead Hour. Gans later found out who the thief
was -- a neighbor and friend of his that had access to his home while
he was away. The whole incident sparked much debate within the
Grateful Dead taping community over whether or not this thief was
doing wrong or, that he was freeing the music for all of us to hear."

Jperdue4

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Oct 15, 2004, 11:20:34 AM10/15/04

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>> I googled gans honeymoon tapes with no luck..Any ideas?
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>http://www.jambands.com/oct98/features/iarrobino.html

thanks Kpisces

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Seth Jackson

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Oct 20, 2004, 4:23:20 PM10/20/04

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http://www.edlis.org/twice/threads/double_ees.html

- Seth Jackson

Songwriting & Music Business Info: http://www.sethjackson.net

David Simmons

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Apr 16, 2022, 3:14:56 PM4/16/22

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Double E (A,B,C,D,EE) refers to a ticket you had to buy at Disneyland and pay big bucks to get on the "good" rides back in the day. How do I know this?, I asked Jerry at a diner one night when I met him.

Brian Bruxvoort

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Apr 19, 2023, 10:33:05 AM4/19/23

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I always pictured the double E image as a standup bass too, with the S shaped sound holes looking like two waterfalls on a woman's back and the strings along her spine.