5 Best Funk bands of the 70's
Zaragon
TS
grisgrisfunk
1. The Meters
2. The Meters
3. The Meters
4. The Meters
aaaaaaaaaand
5. The Meters
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> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
Since we're talkin' 70s, I gotta say...
the JBs!
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> TS
>
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L Perez
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> TS
well, beside the bands that did crazy progressive stuff and Rock and Jazz
and all that, my favorite straight up Funk bands are:
Bar-Kays
Isley Bros.
Cameo
Brick
Ohio Players
Max Dubois
> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
>
The Betty Davis, Maxayn Lewis, Buddy Miles Band connection featuring:
Andre Lewis, Larry Graham, Marlo Henderson
The Mandrill
The Meters
The Parliament/Funkadelic connection
The Mothers Finest
Zaragon
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> Tough question... I would have to say my top five are:
>
> 1. The Meters
> 2. The Meters
> 3. The Meters
> 4. The Meters
> aaaaaaaaaand
> 5. The Meters
>
Definitely my favorite at the moment. That laidback, funky/reggae/Cajun brew
(with a dose of Little Feat-style boogie) is just unbeatable. Of course, I'm
talking about the first three Reprise albums: Cabbage Alley, Rejuvenation
and Fire On the Bayou. Can't get enough of those.
TS
Zaragon
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> "Zaragon" <shar...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
>>
>> TS
>
> well, beside the bands that did crazy progressive stuff and Rock and Jazz
> and all that, my favorite straight up Funk bands are:
> Bar-Kays
I just started delving into these guys. Amazing how one of the oldest funk
bands (initially from the 60's Stax roster) would not only go on to make the
A-list of 70's funk greats, but would also survive the changes (unlike most
other 70's acts) to be at the forefront of early 80's electro wave funk.
> Isley Bros.
I've been really digging on their mid-70's stuff as of late, but would
consider them more R&B than funk.
> Cameo
> Brick
> Ohio Players
My all-time favorite. The Ohio Players were masters of atmospheric funk, and
their 1974-1977 repertoire features some of the most blissfull sonorities
I've ever indulged in. The grittier, more Stax-oriented 1971-1973 stuff was
superb as well.
Knowing you like the gritty stuff, LP, what do you recommend from Cameo and
Brick? I thought they were more disco funk or wave funk.
TS
Zaragon
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> Il Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:07:32 +0000, Zaragon ha scritto:
>
>> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
>>
> The Betty Davis, Maxayn Lewis, Buddy Miles Band connection featuring:
> Andre Lewis, Larry Graham, Marlo Henderson
I'm still undecided how I feel about those Betty Davis albums, though I
certainly give thumbs up to Graham Central Station.
> The Mandrill
Another stellar band. I only have the first two albums complete, plus some
assorted later stuff, but it's certainly the best Latin funk I've heard (and
one hears lots of it here in SoCal.)
> The Meters
> The Parliament/Funkadelic connection
Funkadelic, totally. Parliament are stretch for me, though. It seems that
with the latter, Clinton was just getting his party groove on, whereas the
musicality was more important with Funkadelic.
> The Mothers Finest
Don't know this one. Amazon indicates there's a connection to the late 70's
supergroup Detective (?)
TS
Super J
did not put out many albums, maybe only one album, and those bands whose
material was not uniformly great, but hit very high peaks. Some ideas, with
comments (all my opinions, of course :) ) :
James Brown / JB's - Pioneering work in the field.
Parliament/Funkadelic - Building on JB, and moving further afield, with
Parliament and Funkadelic moving in slightly different directions.
Meters - New Orleans funk, and apparently only the best-known of a group of
bands out of the city with some wicked grooves.
Ohio Players - Westbound period and Mercury period are almost like 2
different bands. Westbound-style delivers a more gritty dark style, Mercury
more polished but still tight.
Sly and the Family Stone - Stand, There's a Riot Goin' On, and Fresh are a
trio of albums that stand the test of time as funk monsters of the highest
calibre
Tower of Power - Super hot when they hit the spot
Graham Central Station - Takes the gospel connection in funk to its logical
conclusion
Herbie Hancock - A jazz musician who, in his funk phase, pushed the limits
in terms of sophisticated grooves while maintaining the funk connection.
The albums Headhunters,Thrust and Manchild are mind-blowing jazz-funk.
about 100-?00 relatively unknown bands - A whole group of bands whose
discography consisted of 1 or 2 45s, churning out dirty funk molded on the
James Brown style, and undoubtedly delivering the goods. For examples, see
the collection "The Sound of Funk, vols. 1-10". Some of the grittiest funk
ever recorded were by these rarely heard musicians.
Super J
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FF Gap
Zaragon wrote:
> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
in no particular order:
Funkadelic/Parliament/P-Funk
James Brown/JBs
Sly & The Family Stone/Graham Central Station
Ohio Players
The Meters
Funk on,
FF Gap
www.InFunkWeTrust.de
Max Dubois
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> "Max Dubois" <mye...@myemail.fr> wrote in message
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>> Il Fri, 18 Feb 2005 20:07:32 +0000, Zaragon ha scritto:
>>
>>> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
>>>
>> The Betty Davis, Maxayn Lewis, Buddy Miles Band connection featuring:
>> Andre Lewis, Larry Graham, Marlo Henderson
>
> I'm still undecided how I feel about those Betty Davis albums, though I
> certainly give thumbs up to Graham Central Station.
Well, GCS were ok, then I think Larry Graham did his best work with
others, especially with Sly and I especially like his work with "mother"
Betty.
Those Betty Davis albums do have everything I like in funk, the hardcore
side :-)
>> The Mandrill
>
> Another stellar band. I only have the first two albums complete, plus
> some assorted later stuff, but it's certainly the best Latin funk I've
> heard (and one hears lots of it here in SoCal.)
U should get Fancywalk, The Anthology to have a complete idea of them.
>
>> The Parliament/Funkadelic connection
>
> Funkadelic, totally. Parliament are stretch for me, though. It seems
> that with the latter, Clinton was just getting his party groove on,
> whereas the musicality was more important with Funkadelic.
In my opinion that is not true: Parliament had a lot of "exploration" into
various musical territories, especially psychedelic music and especially
with the legendary first album Osmium, still one of my favourite first
album of all generes and all time.
>> The Mothers Finest
>
> Don't know this one. Amazon indicates there's a connection to the late
> 70's supergroup Detective (?)
>
Mothers Finest were the connection between the niggaz funk and the white
trash hard rock :-) They did a lot of albums for years and in my opinion
they are ALL really interesting, also if I think "pure" funk people would
enjoy the underrated and unknow first album (it is NOT on the
allmusic.com MF listing, I should correct them :-((( ) way back in 1972
and maybe the three first official albums in the mid 70's (self titled and
Another Mother Further and Mother Factor).
The history and the meaning of the MF project is, IMHO, well explained in
the title of a recent and as usual really really good cd: Black Radio
Won't Play This Record.
Tony B.
> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
Any top 5 must include the Fatback Band. (Others already mentioned.)
Tony B.
Mack Jigger
L Perez
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>>> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
>>>
>>> TS
>>
>> well, beside the bands that did crazy progressive stuff and Rock and Jazz
>> and all that, my favorite straight up Funk bands are:
>> Bar-Kays
>
> I just started delving into these guys. Amazing how one of the oldest funk
> bands (initially from the 60's Stax roster) would not only go on to make
> the A-list of 70's funk greats, but would also survive the changes (unlike
> most other 70's acts) to be at the forefront of early 80's electro wave
> funk.
>
>> Isley Bros.
>
> I've been really digging on their mid-70's stuff as of late, but would
> consider them more R&B than funk.
by 1980 they had a higher percentage of Soul tunes on their albums, tru...
but back in the day they were STONE COLD FONK!
check out the baad Bass Geetar thumpin on albums like 3+3, Live It Up, The
Heat Is On and Harvest For The World, not to forget Ernie's incendiary
6-string work!
>
>> Cameo
>> Brick
>> Ohio Players
>
> My all-time favorite. The Ohio Players were masters of atmospheric funk,
> and their 1974-1977 repertoire features some of the most blissfull
> sonorities I've ever indulged in. The grittier, more Stax-oriented
> 1971-1973 stuff was superb as well.
>
> Knowing you like the gritty stuff, LP, what do you recommend from Cameo
> and Brick? I thought they were more disco funk or wave funk.
well, with Brick I like the Jazz-y touches they put in their Funk and some
folks consider that "slick" but I see it as 'skill'
Good High, Brick and Stoneheart are all good but then there are many bands
who were just as great as Brick and could be in a tie with them for that 5th
spot. As a matter of fact, The Dazz Band had some great Funk and perhaps
should get that 5th spot
Cameo went through phases... originally gritty, then freaky, then slick,
then wave-y... get
Cardiac Arrest, Cameosis and We All Know Who We Are for their grittiest
of course, my favorite Funk bands are the ones who transcended Funk and did
all kinds of progressive Rock, Jazz and Psychedelic stuff... the bands I
like to call Afro Prog... like all the early albums by
Funkadelic
Mandrill
Curtis Mayfield
Osibisa
Tower Of Power
Stevie Wonder
War
Pleasure
The Nite-Liters
the stuff that goes beyond straight Funk...
but dont get me wrong... I love 'get down and dance' Funk too
LP
L Perez
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> don't forget Kool and The Gang pre 78
heh, yeah... a lot of that early K&TG stuff was very Jazz-y too
>
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:42:32 -0000, "Tony B." <ju...@junk.junk> wrote:
>
>>Zaragon wrote:
>>> Who do you guys think are the 5 best funk bands of the 70's?
>>
>>Any top 5 must include the Fatback Band. (Others already mentioned.)
oh yeah... Fatback had some monster dance groove back in the day!
LP
Kamel TALBI
2 - Africa 70 (with Fela !!!)
3 - Kool and the Gang
4 - The Meters
5 - Roy Ayers Ubiquity / Blowfly / Kashmere Stage Band...
I am sure I fogot some...
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Mike C.
SanDiegoFunkDaddy wrote:
> P Funk was the funkiest ever
You obviously haven't listened to much funk. P-Funk certainly couldn't
touch The Meters back then, and certainly can't touch the current
incarnation of the band, The Funky Meters.
The funkiest ever all exist in New Orleans today. Papa Grows Funk,
Galactic, Ivan Neville's Dumpstaphunk, Porter/Batiste/Stoltz, Neville
Bros., etc., these are the perveyors of the funk today.
grisgrisfunk
so, you don't know what TRUE funk is about.
P-Funk and that whole style of funk was kind of cheesy to me. I'll take the
good o'le gritty funk any day of the week.
Mike R.
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Max Dubois
> I'm with Mike C. on this one. Nothing can top New Orleans funk, if you think
> so, you don't know what TRUE funk is about.
>
> P-Funk and that whole style of funk was kind of cheesy to me. I'll take the
> good o'le gritty funk any day of the week.
>
Please, do not touch the great George!!! It is just a different kind of
funk compared with NO funk, and this thread is about generally speaking
funk!
I'm a New Orleans funk fan too then Funkadelic/Parliament/P-Funk
connection is simply another story.
Max Dubois
> I'm with Mike C. on this one. Nothing can top New Orleans funk, if you think
> so, you don't know what TRUE funk is about.
>
> P-Funk and that whole style of funk was kind of cheesy to me. I'll take the
> good o'le gritty funk any day of the week.
>
Mike C.
Nah, it's electronic/psychedelic posing. The Funky Meters are the real
deal. Bootsy was far better when backing up James Brown or Maceo. There
is an excellent CD of the Legendary Meters featuring the JB Horns.
*That's* some real funk.
Grisgris, you going to Jazz Fest in a month? If you're going to be
there for the "in between" days, definitely check out Ivan Neville's
"Jamikaze", which is performing at Howlin' Wolf on 4/27. It's going to
be an awesome show, featuring Ivan with George Porter, Jr.(of The Funky
Meters), Eric Krasno(of Soulive), Ian Neville(Art Neville's son),
Russell Batiste, Jr.(of the Funky Meters). After that, late night, will
be Lettuce, which is Eric Krasno and Sam Kininger's group, which will
go all hours into the morning. I've been assured by the promoter that
there will be lots of sit-in suprises. I've got a recording of last
year's show, which I attended, and it was an awesome experience. June
Yamagichi(of Papa Grows Funk) sat in, along with Sam Kininger, Tony
Hall, etc. BTW, this show is going to be $20 for the whole night, both
shows, no clearing the room in between shows.
Now that I think of it, let's do this: anyone interested in a copy of
either of these shows, we can do a B&P for it, or if you have anything
interesting to trade. Shoot me an e-mail at jazzfe...@yahoo.com,
for more info.
grisgrisfunk
>
> Nah, it's electronic/psychedelic posing. The Funky Meters are the real
> deal. Bootsy was far better when backing up James Brown or Maceo. There
> is an excellent CD of the Legendary Meters featuring the JB Horns.
> *That's* some real funk.
I hear that!
> Grisgris, you going to Jazz Fest in a month? If you're going to be
> there for the "in between" days, definitely check out Ivan Neville's
> "Jamikaze", which is performing at Howlin' Wolf on 4/27. It's going to
> be an awesome show, featuring Ivan with George Porter, Jr.(of The Funky
> Meters), Eric Krasno(of Soulive), Ian Neville(Art Neville's son),
> Russell Batiste, Jr.(of the Funky Meters). After that, late night, will
> be Lettuce, which is Eric Krasno and Sam Kininger's group, which will
> go all hours into the morning. I've been assured by the promoter that
> there will be lots of sit-in suprises. I've got a recording of last
> year's show, which I attended, and it was an awesome experience. June
> Yamagichi(of Papa Grows Funk) sat in, along with Sam Kininger, Tony
> Hall, etc. BTW, this show is going to be $20 for the whole night, both
> shows, no clearing the room in between shows.
Damn, I wish I was going to JazzFest!!! This is the first year in a while I
can't make the trip. My damn school schedule is getting in the way of
JazzFest. I usually venture down there a couple times a year. I'm kind of
lucky because my sis-n-law lives Uptown on Lowerline. I usually stay at her
place.
It figures, the year I can't make it to Jazzfest the original Meters are
getting together. I'm still feeling down because of it. Well I'm looking on
the bright side, I will be seeing the Funky four at BB's and at the fest in
New Jersey. It's not even close to Jazzfest but at least it will cure my
funk fix and Nola food crave.
I hope you have an awesome time Mike. Let us know how it was.
Keep it Funky,
Mike R.
Max Dubois
>> connection is simply another story.
>
> Nah, it's electronic/psychedelic posing.
Coool posing and great music, not the same old funk again. :-)
Now believe
me: I like that "old funky again", but I'm open minded, I like progressive
funk, new sounds, mixtures between generes and old George C. is THE
REAL DEAL :-)
Don't touch the P-Funk connection or I can kill u next month when I'm in
NO for the festival :-)
Mike C.
Don't feel too bad. I'm going to Fest, but I'd already paid for 2nd
weekend, which I usually find to be the better of the two. So I'm
missing the Meters reunion. Damn. However, I did manage to get on the
guestlist for the Ivan Neville/Jamikaze show. I'll try to get you some
good pics and a clean copy of the show.
Did you want a recording of last year's Jamikaze show? I was at that
show, it was mind-blowing.
We'll have to hang together at a NYC Funky Four show sometime. I'm in
Boston, so I'd have to plan my weekend around it. I saw the infamous
PBS show there a couple of years ago, with Warren Haynes sitting in.
Wow.
Mike C.
Dood, didn't yousee the performance at the Grammies? All of 30 seconds
of Earth, Wind, & Fire (which was kick-ass), and then the rest of the
performance with P-Funk (which was old and tired). I'm open-minded, but
I'm also a funk musician, and I'm not impressed with P-Funk. Owned the
"Tear The Roof Off The Sucka" set, and wasn't impressed. Sold it on
Ebay.
Who you seeing at Jazz Fest?
grisgrisfunk
>
> Don't feel too bad. I'm going to Fest, but I'd already paid for 2nd
> weekend, which I usually find to be the better of the two. So I'm
> missing the Meters reunion. Damn. However, I did manage to get on the
> guestlist for the Ivan Neville/Jamikaze show. I'll try to get you some
> good pics and a clean copy of the show.
>
> We'll have to hang together at a NYC Funky Four show sometime. I'm in
> Boston, so I'd have to plan my weekend around it. I saw the infamous
> PBS show there a couple of years ago, with Warren Haynes sitting in.
> Wow.
Sounds like a good plan. I'm going to be going to the show in June at BB's
place, so maybe we can hook up. I missed out on the show with Warren Haynes,
I would have LOVED to see Warren and Brian playing together. I'm a huge
Gov't Mule fan. I just saw Gov't Mule actually last month at the Oakdale
Theater by me. It was only a mile down the road from me here in Connecticut.
Awesome show! Stay in touch Mike!
Mike R.
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