Who's Funkier?
dav...@ibm.net
Who's funkier, James Brown, George Clinton, Larry Graham, Bootsy
Collins, or Miles Davis (yes, that's right. Miles Davis in the '70's got real
funky!)? Votes will be tallied, the winner becomes god!
John W. Kidd
Brothers Johnsons& The OHIO players etc......
Ron Pethick
dav...@ibm.net writes:
My vote is George Clinton
I dopn't think James Brown is all that Funky
The reason his music is Funky is down to People like Maceo and Pee Wee and
Fred>
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> Who's funkier, James Brown, George Clinton, Larry Graham, Bootsy
> Collins, or Miles Davis (yes, that's right. Miles Davis in the
>'70's got real
> funky!)? Votes will be tallied, the winner becomes god!
> >
> My vote is George Clinton
>
> I dopn't think James Brown is all that Funky
> The reason his music is Funky is down to People like Maceo and Pee
Wee and
> Fred>
By that logic, then, isn't that why George seems so funky?
Both George and James are inimitably funky, but lets get real:
listen to Mother Popcorn, Cold Sweat, Sex Machine, Superbad and all
those other great JB cuts from the late 60's-early 70's and THEN try
and tell me he isn't the funkiest!!
(of course, if you're talking about who's making the better music
NOW, it would have to be George. Both JB and GC have been
re-treading their old material for years now--but at least GC is
writing and producing HIS OWN retreads. Wake up and make some music
again James!)
Curtis
Blaine Armsterd
:
:> Who's funkier, James Brown, George Clinton, Larry Graham, Bootsy
:> '70's got real
:> funky!)? Votes will be tallied, the winner becomes god!
:> My vote is George Clinton
:>I dopn't think James Brown is all that Funky
:>The reason his music is Funky is down to People like Maceo and Pee
:Wee and
:>Fred
I've argued this before: George is funkier, James is more consistant.
Result: it's a tie. But I can respect either position.
: Both George and James are inimitably funky, but lets get real:
: listen to Mother Popcorn, Cold Sweat, Sex Machine, Superbad and all
: those other great JB cuts from the late 60's-early 70's and THEN try
: and tell me he isn't the funkiest!!
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fsol...@forest.drew.edu
> You guys forgot about the band with their own unique sound-a band
> interviewed by Playboy, among other mags-the band with the absolutely
> NASTIEST, funkiest bass player ever, that's Mark Adams (Sir Hansolor]
> and SLAVE ("Slide, Stellar Fungk, Watching You, Snapshot, etc.]
> No doubt the baddest on the planet at that time.
> Later...trc3 sends.
>
And probably the most underrated, unrecognized funk band this side of
Zapp! Although, I believe Mark Adams was a GREAT bass player, I don't
think he was the best. He idolized Larry Graham and Verdine White and from
those two he got his style (the popping from Larry and the sting from
Verdine.) Also I like Bootsy more too! And don't forget one of my all-time
faves, "Just a Touch of Love" with that NASTY bass-line.
freddie
Mike Theiss
> :> Who's funkier, James Brown, George Clinton, Larry Graham, Bootsy
> :> Collins, or Miles Davis (yes, that's right. Miles Davis in the
> :> '70's got real
> :> funky!)? Votes will be tallied, the winner becomes god!
>
> :> My vote is George Clinton
>
> :>I dopn't think James Brown is all that Funky
> :>The reason his music is Funky is down to People like Maceo and Pee
> :Wee and
> :>Fred
>
> I've argued this before: George is funkier, James is more consistant.
> Result: it's a tie. But I can respect either position.
I think the true contest lies between Bootsy Collins and Sly Stone (who
you didn't even mention).
If you locked George Clinton and James Brown in studios alone (hell even
give them each other) neither of them could do a damn thing (except scream
and get real funky on the vocal tip). Both of those people rely on other
people's musical talent too much (though they are both very talented as
producers cause they manage to surround themselves with the the funkiest
people in the universe)
However, Bootsy Collins or Sly Stone can each play drums, bass, guitar,
and keys (and do each of them very well), as well as write and arrange all
of those and lyrics as well. Each of them can produce complete funk
tracks all by their damn selves. Between them, it's a real contest!
Sly has serious talent, and has proved it many times on record, though I
think I'll have to give the prize to Bootsy, just because he hasn't let
drugs totally ruin his career in music and effect his creative output.
William "Bootsy" Collins, the funkiest mutha in the universe.
--
Scott Nettles
Mike Theiss <vamp...@usa1.com> wrote:
>I think the true contest lies between Bootsy Collins and Sly Stone (who
Certainly Sly and Bootsy are truly funky. No doubt they have the funk.
But who did they get it from? The godfather, James Brown, that's who.
All of this stuff about how they can play all these instruments is completely
irrelevant. I've seen my father play at least 20 different instruments, he
probably can play more. He can direct, he can arrange, he can play Jazz. But
is he funky? No, he doesn't have the funk. Never did, never will. He is cool
though, but that's different. (It's tough being a teenager and having your
father be the coolest guy in your high school!)
Now back to James Brown. He invented funk. Called it a "brand new bag", and he
was right. A lot of talented people, like Maceo and Pee Wee, they helped him,
true enough. But look what happened next. They left him, so James got a couple
brother's from some Cincy bar band, and damned if he didn't give them the
funk. Bootsy got the funk DIRECT from the motherlode, James Brown.
Just read what Bootsy has to say about the whole thing, then you'll know, James
Brown is the funkiest. Always was, always will be. Gimme a hit!
Scott
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Jodin Trocheck
Hold up,,,,hold up......no disrespect to anyone mentioned before, but i've
been readin this newsgroup for too long without hearing anyone mention The
OHIO PLAYERS. Come on? What up --- Funky Worm...Fire...Skin
Tight...Fopp....there was A LOT of good funk back in the days (and someday I
hope to own it all;-)), but I always come back to OP for some reason.
Listen to the album "Pleasure" all the way through --- god damn!
just my 2 sense -
Franknseus
dav...@ibm.net writes:
> Who's funkier, James Brown, George Clinton, Larry Graham, Bootsy
>Collins, or Miles Davis (yes, that's right. Miles Davis in the '70's got
real
>
>funky!)? Votes will be tallied, the winner becomes god!
>
>
Various arguments could be made for who had the biggest influence on
funk, but my personal vote for the One who breathes, sweats, and lives the
funk is Bootzilla. Bootsy has progressed into the '90s, making some really
groundbreaking music with Praxis and Zillatron while still keeping the old
school funk alive with New Rubber Band and other projects. Bootsy with his
space bass is like Zorro with a sword. In fact, just the name Space Bass
is funky. He is a live action cartoon, a rock star doll, a super hero, a
giant monster -- you don't get funkier than Player of the Century Bootsy
Collins.
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Revenue Settlement <moi...@dfw.net> writes:
>(of course, if you're talking about who's making the better music
>NOW, it would have to be George. Both JB and GC have been
>re-treading their old material for years now--but at least GC is
>writing and producing HIS OWN retreads. Wake up and make some music
>again James!)
>
>
But look what Bootsy's been doin... he's into the hardcore
funk-metal-new-age-film-score-cyberfunk. I don't think GC is really doing
"retreads" but I think out of all the old masters, Bootsy and Bernie are
the ones who are making the biggest steps forward.
Franknseus
(Scott Nettles) writes:
>All of this stuff about how they can play all these instruments is
completely
>irrelevant. I've seen my father play at least 20 different instruments,
he
>probably can play more. He can direct, he can arrange, he can play Jazz.
But
>is he funky? No, he doesn't have the funk. Never did, never will.
If your dad can play any of those instruments HALF as funky as either
Bootsy or Sly, then yes, your dad is funky.
>Just read what Bootsy has to say about the whole thing, then you'll know,
>James
>Brown is the funkiest. Always was, always will be. Gimme a hit!
Yes, James Brown is the biggest brick in the foundation of funk. But you
listen to Universal James and then listen to any of Bootsy's projects from
the '90s, and you tell me which one is the funkiest now.
fsol...@forest.drew.edu
> Hold up,,,,hold up......no disrespect to anyone mentioned before, but i've
> been readin this newsgroup for too long without hearing anyone mention The
> OHIO PLAYERS. Come on? What up --- Funky Worm...Fire...Skin
> Tight...Fopp....there was A LOT of good funk back in the days (and someday I
> hope to own it all;-)), but I always come back to OP for some reason.
> Listen to the album "Pleasure" all the way through --- god damn!
>
> just my 2 sense -
>
>
their Mercury stuff, which would take on a slight disco sound. There was A
LOT of good funk back in the days, but I find myself going back to P-Funk
most often, though. If you're interested in the Players, I'd recommend
picking up the "Funk on Fire" Mercury Anthology for the 7 unreleased
tracks included. Now if someone would put together a Westbound anthology,
or better yet, re-release those albums, that would be the BOMB!
freddie
Scott Nettles
Franknseus <frank...@aol.com> wrote:
> If your dad can play any of those instruments HALF as funky as either
>Bootsy or Sly, then yes, your dad is funky.
He can't. He's more of a Clifford Brown. :-)
>listen to Universal James and then listen to any of Bootsy's projects from
>the '90s, and you tell me which one is the funkiest now.
I agree that as of late James has been kinda disappointing, but the question
wasn't "who's the funkiest in th '90s?", it was "who's the funkiest?" And the
answer is
Soul brother #1, JAMES BROWN.
Todd Hudson
On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, Ron Pethick wrote:
> In article <NEWTNews.2363.8...@daveftr.ibm.net>
> dav...@ibm.net writes:
>
> >
> > Who's funkier, James Brown, George Clinton, Larry Graham, Bootsy
> >
> > Collins, or Miles Davis (yes, that's right. Miles Davis in the '70's got real
> >
> > funky!)? Votes will be tallied, the winner becomes god!
> >
> My vote is George Clinton
>
> I dopn't think James Brown is all that Funky
> The reason his music is Funky is down to People like Maceo and Pee Wee and
> Fred>
>
> --
> Ron Pethick
>
>
What the fuck? Ron, have you interviewed all these people who played
with James Brown and asked who put all that shit together? Anyhow, these
"who's funkier" questions are bullshit because it assumes that these
single individuals, who happen to be funky, are totally responsible for
the funkiness of the music they contributed to. Ron was half-way right.
James Brown may be a funky fellow, but he never made the funk by
himself--he, like the rest of the people named above, all played with
other people who helped make the music funky. You can not say that one
person is funkier than another because your haven't defined what that
means to be funky, you don't know what it is, and you have forgotten that
all these people played with other musicians that helped them create
funky music.
Todd Hudson
Meridian Oil Revenue Settlement
Whenever I got in the mood for funk, I invariably
> found myself playing JB, Sly, P-Funk, rare funk
compilations....anything
> but the Mercury Ohio Players. Their stuff on Westbound is the
certified
> bomb though.
Forgive me if this is a stupid question ( I don't think I read the
post that originated this) but are there Westbound OP releases
available in the US? I need 'em!
Franknseus
(Scott Nettles) writes:
>>listen to Universal James and then listen to any of Bootsy's projects
from
>>the '90s, and you tell me which one is the funkiest now.
>
>I agree that as of late James has been kinda disappointing, but the
question
>wasn't "who's the funkiest in th '90s?", it was "who's the funkiest?" And
the
>answer is
>
>Soul brother #1, JAMES BROWN.
Okay, I think I understand what you're saying, but I still stand by my
interpretation of the question. If you're going for any given moment in
time, Sly Stone was probably the funkiest at one point but he ceased to be
funky and hasn't released an album in over a decade. James Brown was
definitely the funkiest at one point but throughout the years, he has
lapsed into a greatest hits nostalgia trip. But back when James was at his
peak, Bootsy was a big part of his music and since then he has grown. He
had a vacation for a while in the '80s but when he came back he came back
with a vengeance, I think. So I think that as funky as all the candidates
are, getting funkier and funkier for as long a period of time as Bootsy
has can only prove that he is in fact funkier.
So neener neener.
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though.
a) If James Brown had died in 1960, he would still be revered as a great
musical innovator for his vocal arrangements and fusion of gospel and R&B
to make a sound all his own. Listen to "Roots of a Revolution." If he'd
died in 1966, he would have been a god -- yet his funkiest material was
recorded after that time.
b) Maceo Parker points to "I've Got Money" (recorded long before Macoe
joined the Godfather's band) as an example of James' incredible instinct
for creating funk.
c) Bootsy was and is an immensely talented musician and sideman. His
playing on the "Love Power Peace" CD is frighteningly good.
d) This is a personal opinion (as is some of the above) but nothing
Bootsy has ever recorded without the input of James Brown or George
Clinton has struck me as being top-level funk. He makes some OK,
reasonably funky music on his own, but without the great concepts,
grooves and progressions people like JB and Clinton created, he's merely
good. And yes, I've listened to most of his recent output, including all
the Bill Laswell stuff. It's not bad, but it's not "Soul Power".
That's my view. And please don't take it the wrong way -- I love Bootsy
and I think he's incredibly talented. I just don't put him up there with
JB and George Clinton.
Charles
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than Bootsy I think how much better it would be if he was playing on it.
Funk is a rythm not a note. A groove, not a solo. Bootsy always had
the rythym. I play bass and perhaps I'm biased. But I think that the
funkiest bass player is the funkiest person. James knew it, he found
Bootsy and got funkier, George knew it too, Bootsy taught him about "the
ONE". Rappers know what to sample when they want the the booty shakin'.
James and George are incredible vocalists, they've got the soul,
they've got the funk, they've got the melody, but when someone plays the
funk its all in the BASS. The SPACE-BASS that is. Bootsy is the
MASTER!!!!
-Adam
Franknseus
Charles Kupperman) writes:
>That's my view. And please don't take it the wrong way -- I love Bootsy
>and I think he's incredibly talented. I just don't put him up there with
>JB and George Clinton.
>
>
Hey, I disagree with you but I understand where you're coming from.
There's no need to worry about people taking things the wrong way here, at
least as far as I'm concerned. I agree that the topic is getting pretty
silly, and I'm sure that it's my contribution that brought it there, but I
was just throwing in my opinion too.
Anyway, I like Bootsy because I see him as being more adventurous than
both James and George now days. By exploring death metal, ambient, jungle,
and "cyberfunk," I think he's taking funk to new levels. He also is the
baddest bass player I've ever heard. But I still love George Clinton -- I
like Hey Man Smell My Finger a lot more than most people seem to -- and I
saw James play a couple years ago and it was a real fun time. (Then again,
I've seen Maceo a couple times and I like his versions of JB songs a lot
better. But oh well.)
Now if we could only trick Sly into getting back in the picture...
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>
> Whenever I listen to a funk song that has a different bass player
> than Bootsy I think how much better it would be if he was playing on it.
> Funk is a rythm not a note. A groove, not a solo. Bootsy always had
> the rythym. I play bass and perhaps I'm biased. But I think that the
> funk its all in the BASS. The SPACE-BASS that is. Bootsy is the
> MASTER!!!!
>
> -Adamexcept that Bootsy is easily half-(acid, Hendrixian)rock, half-funk
Mr Charles Kupperman
: Hey, I disagree with you but I understand where you're coming from.
Same here. :) Glad we can disagree without disrespecting each other.
: Anyway, I like Bootsy because I see him as being more adventurous than
: both James and George now days. By exploring death metal, ambient, jungle,
: and "cyberfunk," I think he's taking funk to new levels.
I went out this past weekend and picked up a lot of Bootsy's recent
stuff, some of it used. That includes "Zillatron", "Blasters", "New
Rubber Band Live 1995" and some other stuff he plays on. I have to say
the tracks I liked the best on all those CDs, plus the first Praxis CD
and Axiom Funk, which I already owned, were the tracks which were closest
to plain funk -- I want my funk uncut.
The fact is, I don't usually listen to "death metal, ambient, jungle or
cyber-anything":). Since the age of about 15, when I threw out all
non-funk music I owned, there's only one kind of music I listen to. Call
me narrow-minded, I've got a one track mind, baby baba.
: He also is the
: baddest bass player I've ever heard.
I'd put in a case for Robert "Kool" Bell from Kool and the Gang, from
back when "Kool" still played bass. I'd also rather have a great guitar
player like Jimmy Nolen in my band. Some tracks with Nolen are the
funkiest things I've ever heard, so I'm not convinced bass is where it
begins and ends.
: But I still love George Clinton -- I
: like Hey Man Smell My Finger a lot more than most people seem to --
I have a love/hate relationship to that album. I wish George had taken
the four years he spent after "Cindarella Theory" and put together a funk
masterpiece instead of trying to pander to hip-hop fans and letting
Dallas Austin TLC-ize his sound. But there's lots of brilliant stuff on
that CD.
: and I
: saw James play a couple years ago and it was a real fun time. (Then again,
: I've seen Maceo a couple times and I like his versions of JB songs a lot
: better. But oh well.)
The only time I ever saw Maceo live, it was in 1989, and he had a
terrible backing band then -- I think it was the backing band he
inherited from James Brown after JB was put in prison. They now tour as
the Ambassadors of Funk. Maceo was great, but the band ruined it for
me. My point is that both Maceo and JB are only as good as their bands.
JB needs to recruit a new band.
As for JB's studio output, he refuses to be an "oldie" artist. He'll
keep trying to get a top 40 hit until he dies, even if it means teaming
up with passign fads like Full Force or C&C Music Factory to the
detriment of his music. I respect that, even though it's deprived us of
hearing JB letting go and relying on "old-fashioned" musicianship with
some real masters...
: Now if we could only trick Sly into getting back in the picture...
From what I hear, Sly doesn't need to be tricked. He needs to go cold
turkey.
Stephen
Mr Charles Kupperman <ck...@news.hk.super.net> wrote:
>
>I went out this past weekend and picked up a lot of Bootsy's recent
>stuff, some of it used. That includes "Zillatron", "Blasters", "New
>Rubber Band Live 1995" and some other stuff he plays on. I have to say
>the tracks I liked the best on all those CDs, plus the first Praxis CD
>and Axiom Funk, which I already owned, were the tracks which were closest
>to plain funk -- I want my funk uncut.
>
Congratulations to Bootsy for exploring all types of musical expression;
but I spend most of _my_ time listenning to the _real_ funky stuff.
(I still buy Bootsy stuff, but some of it is not going to be played as
much as the "uncut".)
(I wish Bootsy would have come out with a 1 CD "Blasters ..", because when
I saw 2 disks WITH THE SAME FUCKING SONGS ON THEM, costing much more than
1 disk (which _might_ have just had each song once, like ordinary people
do --), I had to wonder "Is Bootsy _trying_ to limit his audience?".
And I did not buy. Now, the album is not there, I don't know whether I will
ever bother to special order it (even though I think I _do_ want to get
it now),
YOU WIN, MISTER BOOTSY "HARD TO GET".
)
Everything the Funk Mob does now seems limited edition, special order, AND
expensive (like it just came in on a slow boat from Japan).
We see clear evidence that America is on a DANGEROUS downhill slide!
>: But I still love George Clinton -- I
>: like Hey Man Smell My Finger a lot more than most people seem to --
>
Why am I supposed to want to smell Geaorge's finger? He's always had some
odd album names, but this one takes the cake.
I don't like this album too much, because I CAN'T CONNECT; not like
so much of his other stuff.
>
>As for JB's studio output, he refuses to be an "oldie" artist. He'll
>keep trying to get a top 40 hit until he dies, even if it means teaming
>up with passign fads like Full Force or C&C Music Factory to the
>detriment of his music. I respect that, even though it's deprived us of
>hearing JB letting go and relying on "old-fashioned" musicianship with
>some real masters...
>
The DIFFERENCE is that, before, James was setting the new course HIMSELF!
If he's expecting someone else to set the course into the unknown FOR HIM,
it won't work, because, THEY ARE NOT JAMES BROWN, NOT EVEN IN HIS LEAGUE
(compared to his most creative time)
The only way that James could ever reach some heights again would be if
HE gets a new inspiration in himself, and goes with THAT.
_ Steve Pipkin
The Bruce
Why is Bootsy putting out so much keyboard crap if he is so funky?
Sure, when he played some sweet tunes with JB but George Clinton's music
forced him into the "electronic world", He did know how to groove, I
will give you that, it's not just about playing notes on a page but what
about Larry Graham Jr. (Sly and the Family Stone)? He invented the
"slap" method. I play bass, I know a groove when I hear one and I am not
shaking my butt to Bootsy's new crap. Someone should bring him down to
earth and turn off his sampler.
Plus!!!! I just heard a new funk band in Seattle last weekend-Fireball
Brady--- These guys grooved, I'm talking about they took over 100 butt
rockers and made these earing clad monsters shake their booty. Reason
Why----Their rythm section was excellent. Tight as brothers, they
grooved hard on bass lines which sounded like they were out of 1972. A
Curtis Mayfield-JB influence with some jumpy-sweet lyrics to back. These
guys put on a show. As the bass player ripped into heavy solos he fell
to his knees and the crowd followed. Bootsy would have cried, the funny
thing is their bass player is still young, maybe a future Bootsy? They
are putting out a 10 song tape next month. Write me for more info, these
boys play with their hearts! abr...@u.washington.edu
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damn keyboards and samplers. Larry Graham JR.(SLy and the Family Stone),
invented slap, he should have a cult following by us bass players. JB
made bootsy, JB is funk, Bootsy is funkless.
Mike Theiss
<abr...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
So, I suppose it was actually, James Brown who wrote and performed all the
Bootsy's Rubber Band's songs - only he was behind the scenes and Bootsy
took all the credit for it right? I think you got the situation
backwards. If you think Bootsy is funkless you need some serious funkin'
lessons.
And if you wanna knock Bootsy just cause he used some programming on his
last album - I suggest you check out some of JAMES BROWN'S recent
garbage. (At list Bootsy didn't hire C&C Music Factory!)
And SLAPPING ain't got a goddamn thang to do with funkin' by the way!
It's all in the pocket not the thumb.
(No disrespect to Larry Graham - he's great, but his best work was done
behind Sly Stone).
--
Richard Cartwright
players and I'd rather listen to just about anything from GCS than Bootsy's
latest stuff. But Bootsy is still way towards the funky end of the spectrum.
All arguments about JB, George and samplers aside, the man just fully has funk
flowing through his veins! I saw him live in Stockholm in August or September
sometime and managed to touch the man when he came down to shake his booty with
the crowd. It was an almost religious experience. I could practically feel the
funk flow through me.
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out crap now and so is bootsy, at least that's my opinion. I like old
school funk. I think the Ohio PLayers and Sly are funkier than old
boots. Jermiroquoi, a modern group is also funkier. Cut the electric
crap, bootsy. Go back to 1972 style. By the way JB bought Bootsy his
first real bass, and James taught him the importance of the "1". Bootsy
is a has been, the his Rubberband hasn't put out anything that's as good
as when bootsy was with JB. PLus, ever trying some of Bootsy's licks,
not too hard. I'm not saying that means anything but how funky can a 16
year old bass player jamming with JB be? JB taught him what was going
on, and he did some cool stuff, but the longer he has been away from JB
the closer to John Denver he gets.
Swamp Ratte
TB> fell to his knees and the crowd followed. Bootsy would have
TB> cried, the funny thing is their bass player is still young,
TB> maybe a future Bootsy? They
Get outta here man... doing a third-person "review" of your OWN DAMN
BAND?!
psssh..
Bass Wisdom
see it!
Franknseus
writes:
> (I wish Bootsy would have come out with a 1 CD "Blasters ..", because
when
> I saw 2 disks WITH THE SAME FUCKING SONGS ON THEM, costing much more
than
> 1 disk
That sucks. When I bought it, though, I'm pretty sure it was a normal
price. I don't particularly care for the double CD - if it actually was
remixes, and interesting ones, it would be great. But I never listen to
the instrumentals. What's the point?
Well, actually, I'll answer my own question. I read an interview where
Bootsy said he made the instrumental CD so rappers could sample it easier.
I think it's a pretty cool reason, but it's still kinda stupid.
I also don't like the Martial Law tagged onto Hey Man Smell My Finger.
My favorite albums - like Mothership Connection or Computer Games - work
together as a whole, with a fairly unified concept. I hate it when I get
to the end of the album and suddenly I have the same song again
(especially since it's not much different from the other version). It's
like stapling chapter one to the end of a good book.
Bryan Frankenseuss Theiss
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Franknseus
<abr...@u.washington.edu> writes:
> PLus, ever trying some of Bootsy's licks,
>not too hard. I'm not saying that means anything but how funky can a 16
>year old bass player jamming with JB be? JB taught him what was going
>on, and he did some cool stuff, but the longer he has been away from JB
>the closer to John Denver he gets.
Oh, come on. You may not like Bootsy's new direction(s), which obviously
is okay. But to say that he's not funky or talented is just plain
ludicrous. He can be subtle or berserk and cartoonish. He can lay down
perfect bottom grooves, as he did in Parliament, or he can show off like a
motherfucker as he does at times on the Zillatron album. Check out his
solos on "Fuzzface" -- the guy's a maniac! I believe him when he says he
has to turn into a werewolf to play like that.
I love old school funk too, but I get even more excited when somebody
like Bootsy decides to play mad scientist and stitch together some
over-the-top space bass funk, Buckethead-style horror-score-metal, and
Bill Laswell soundscapes. It doesn't have to be old school to be funky. In
fact, originality plays heavily into my definition of funky.
If Zillatron and Praxis really are along the lines of John Denver, maybe
I oughta take another look at old Mr. Rocky Mountain High.