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Lyrics to "Jerusalem" (Monty Python?)

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Hal Crawford

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May 1, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/1/95
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Okay, I got properly flamed a few months ago when I asked for the lyrics to
"Guantanamera," but as the billions of messages told me to do, I bought a copy
of "Rise Up Singing," and now I'm set for awhile.....until now.

I now would like the words to a song called "Jerusalem" -- I'm not even
positive that's the name -- but Monty Python fans will recognize it in "The
Mattress Sketch."

An English friend and I have been trying to muck out the words....

Elizabeth A. Hendricks

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May 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/2/95
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Hal Crawford (h...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: I now would like the words to a song called "Jerusalem" -- I'm not even
: positive that's the name -- but Monty Python fans will recognize it in "The
: Mattress Sketch."

Actually, they used it quite a lot, as I recall.
The words come from the Preface of William Blake's "Milton: A Poem in 2
Books to Justify the Ways of God to Men."

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my Bow of burning gold:
Bring me my Arrows of desire:
Bring me my Spear: O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my Chariot of fire.

I will not cease from Mental Fight,
Nor shall my Sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green & pleasant Land.


Walter Nelson

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May 2, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/2/95
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Hal Crawford (h...@mindspring.com) wrote:
: I now would like the words to a song called "Jerusalem" -- I'm not even
: positive that's the name -- but Monty Python fans will recognize it in "The
: Mattress Sketch."

Do you mean the one that begins "Oh did those feet, in ancient times, walk


upon England's mountains green?"

If no one else can provide it, my wife, and old Anglican chorister, probably
knows it. You might try an Anglican/Episcopal Hymnal though. That would
be more dependable than my remembering to ask my wife.

Cheers,

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Deborah Stevenson

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May 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/3/95
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In <3o6cr6$f...@rand.org> wal...@thoreau.rand.org (Walter Nelson) writes:

>Hal Crawford (h...@mindspring.com) wrote:
>: I now would like the words to a song called "Jerusalem" -- I'm not even
>: positive that's the name -- but Monty Python fans will recognize it in "The
>: Mattress Sketch."

>Do you mean the one that begins "Oh did those feet, in ancient times, walk
>upon England's mountains green?"

>If no one else can provide it, my wife, and old Anglican chorister, probably
>knows it. You might try an Anglican/Episcopal Hymnal though. That would
>be more dependable than my remembering to ask my wife.

You could also look at a collection of William Blake's poetry, since he
wrote the poem. I believe "Jerusalem" is in most big Blake
collections, although not all of the poem is traditionally sung with the
Parry tune--I think.

So yes, I'm yet another person saying "I don't know--here's another place
to look" :-).

Deborah Stevenson
(stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)

Kimberly Coleman Healy

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May 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/3/95
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In <3o6cr6$f...@rand.org> wal...@thoreau.rand.org writes:
[snip]

> Do you mean the one that begins "Oh did those feet, in ancient times, walk
> upon England's mountains green?"
>
> If no one else can provide it, my wife, and old Anglican chorister, probably
> knows it. You might try an Anglican/Episcopal Hymnal though. That would
> be more dependable than my remembering to ask my wife.

I think you might need the Anglican hymnal or the OLD American Episcopal
hymnal (Hymnal 1940, rather than 1982). In Hymnal 1982, the H. H. Parry
tune is paired with a different (and IMHO much less effective) set of
words...I guess the hymnal compilers decided the original words were
too UK-specific for use in USA worship. Too bad!

Kim

Rob Powell

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May 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/3/95
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: >: I now would like the words to a song called "Jerusalem" -- I'm not even
: >: positive that's the name -- but Monty Python fans will recognize it
[deletia]
: >Do you mean the one that begins "Oh did those feet, in ancient times,
: You could also look at a collection of William Blake's poetry, since he
: wrote the poem. I believe "Jerusalem" is in most big Blake
: collections, although not all of the poem is traditionally sung with the
: Parry tune--I think.

Or another place to look (so you can have the tune also) is Emerson,
Lake and Palmer's (can I say that on r.m.f.?) Brain Salad Surgery.

And most importantly, replace the word feet with teeth.

pRob
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Robert Mackreth

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May 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/3/95
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Slightly off-thread, but...

Oh, God... isn't Carol Cleveland cute in "The Mattress Sketch"?

I could watch my Monty Python tapes for hours just for a glimpse!

"And did those feet..."

Bob M.

Florence Rapp

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May 3, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/3/95
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In rec.music.folk wal...@thoreau.rand.org (Walter Nelson) said:


>Hal Crawford (h...@mindspring.com) wrote: : I now would like the words to a

song
>called "Jerusalem" -- I'm not even
>: positive that's the name -- but Monty Python fans will recognize it in
"The
>: Mattress Sketch."
>
>Do you mean the one that begins "Oh did those feet, in ancient times, walk
upon
>England's mountains green?"


This was also used to great effect in "Chariots of Fire."


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Jeroen Nijhof

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May 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/4/95
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"and did those theeth..."

Jeroen

Steve Carnes

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May 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/4/95
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HE...@biomed.med.yale.edu (Kimberly Coleman Healy) writes:
> I guess the hymnal compilers decided the original words were too
> UK-specific for use in USA worship. Too bad!

A hymnal compiler? Does it work under Solaris?


Timothy J Keenan

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May 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/4/95
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Thus spake Walter Nelson:

: If no one else can provide it, my wife, and old Anglican chorister, probably


: knows it. You might try an Anglican/Episcopal Hymnal though. That would
: be more dependable than my remembering to ask my wife.

: Cheers,

You had better snap to it, though. I just heard on CBC Radio's "As It
Happens" (widely available on APR and around the world on short wave)
that William Blake(words) and Hubert Parry (music) 's "Jerusalem" is being
expunged from the Canadian version of the Anglican Hymnal, on account
of its magical/mythical/apocryphal content. Also gone are "Amazing
Grace" (it was just too much for people to be referring to themselves
as "wretches", apparently) and "Onward Christian Soldiers", for obvious
P.C. reasons.

Tim Keenan

Cliff Ecology Research Group
Botany Department
University of Guelph
Guelph, Ontario


James Pavlovich

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May 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/4/95
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> >
> > If no one else can provide it, my wife, and old Anglican chorister, probably
> > knows it. You might try an Anglican/Episcopal Hymnal though. That would
> > be more dependable than my remembering to ask my wife.
>

> I think you might need the Anglican hymnal or the OLD American Episcopal
> hymnal (Hymnal 1940, rather than 1982). In Hymnal 1982, the H. H. Parry
> tune is paired with a different (and IMHO much less effective) set of

> words...I guess the hymnal compilers decided the original words were


> too UK-specific for use in USA worship. Too bad!
>

> Kim


Not even the tune is in the old (American) Episcopal hymnal (the Hymnal 1949). The
original words are from a poem by William Blake. You should find it in
a volume of his works. A third set of words to C.H.H. Parry's tune can be found
in a collection of hymns called "Cantate Domine". These are better than the
text used in the Hymnal 1982. We used to sing it a lot in my Episcopal
church in the early eighties. The hymn with Blake's text is on the
soundtrack for the film "Chariots of Fire." Also, Billy Bragg has recorded it on
a CD of socialist anthems called "The Internationale"

James Pavlovich

PatrickD35

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May 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/4/95
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> I now would like the words to a song called "Jerusalem" -- I'm not even
> positive that's the name -- but Monty Python fans will recognize it in
> "The Mattress Sketch."
>
> An English friend and I have been trying to muck out the words....


If you have Emerson, Lake & Palmer's "Brain Salad Surgery" album, they do
the song and the lyrics are pretty obvious.

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VICTORIA CROSS

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May 4, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/4/95
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Tim, heard similar news, Toronto Star did a front page story on it a few
weeks ago. From what I read, the songs aren't being expunged, but the
lyrics are being changed. Wretch will be changed to "soul", dark satanic
mills (Jerusalem) will be changed, etc. So I called my buddy who is an
Anglican Priest and gave him the what-for. "Whatsamatter? William Blake
not a good enough poet for you? You think a slave trader is not a
'wretch'? Isn't Amazing Grace about transformation? The Holy Ghost?
Jerusalem about heaven-on-earth?"
After I calmed down, and felt wretched for yelling at my pal and
blaming him for all the crimes of the hierarchy, he told me that some of
the changes weren'
t going to happen. But I sent a letter to the Uniteds and Anglicans
anyway. I understand there has been quite and outcry. Mind you, in
changingthe hymnal, they are also trying to be more inclusive of women
and "non-violent" language. I felt very odd after all my outrage. I am
not, basically, a purist on song issues, and affirm that "folk process"
is is important. But we can all certainly agree that making a song
"official" is a very tough thing on all of us, as well as on the song.

Roger Gawley

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May 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/5/95
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On 3 May 1995, Deborah Stevenson wrote:

>
> You could also look at a collection of William Blake's poetry, since he
> wrote the poem. I believe "Jerusalem" is in most big Blake
> collections, although not all of the poem is traditionally sung with the
> Parry tune--I think.
>

> So yes, I'm yet another person saying "I don't know--here's another place
> to look" :-).
>
> Deborah Stevenson
> (stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)

Not at all sure that this rates as folk, but the magic of gopher and
veronica brings you this:

[obi/William.Blake/The.New.Jerusalem]

Poem "The New Jerusalem" by William Blake

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic Mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold!
Bring me my arrows of desire!
Bring me my spear! O clouds, unfold!
Bring me my charriot of fire!

I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand


Till we have built Jerusalem

In England's green and pleasant land.

Walter Nelson

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May 5, 1995, 3:00:00 AM5/5/95
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Kimberly Coleman Healy (HE...@biomed.med.yale.edu) wrote:
: I think you might need the Anglican hymnal or the OLD American Episcopal

: hymnal (Hymnal 1940, rather than 1982). In Hymnal 1982, the H. H. Parry
: tune is paired with a different (and IMHO much less effective) set of
: words...I guess the hymnal compilers decided the original words were
: too UK-specific for use in USA worship. Too bad!

Quite right. My wife is an *OLD* Anglican chorister (she'd hit me if she
knew I said that), who used the 1940 version. She hasn't got much use for
the new liturgy either. When we got married she inisted we have the
service that includes "thereto I plight thee my trough"--and it was a bit
of a struggle to get that.

Cheers,
Walter Nelson

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