Jimmie Rodgers (kisses sweeter than wine)
Gerry Myerson
In article <199807050059...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
ste...@aol.com (Stewa1) wrote:
-> Jimmie Rodgers (Honey Comb, Kisses Sweeter Than Wine, Waltzing Matila,
-> etc) is represented by at least four CD's that I know of....
Er, I hope you're not suggesting that Jimmie Rodgers wrote Waltzing Matilda.
Gerry Myerson (ge...@mpce.mq.edu.au)
Rev1880
Or that you are not suggesting that Jimmy Rogers (the sausage guy you're
discussing, right?) wrote "Kisses Sweeter Than Wine?" I believe that is
Leadbelly's creation.
Bill
Arian Hokin
Gerry Myerson wrote:
Yes, I sort of wondered about that myself. I think I concluded that he wrote
something called "Waltzing Matila".
Arian Hokin
Stewa1
>Er, I hope you're not suggesting that Jimmie Rodgers wrote Waltzing Matilda.
In no way...BUT he did have the biggest hit on it, since he sang it behind the
film credits of "On the Beach"
JesiAna
"The Sausage Guy" was Jimmy Dean, not Jimmie Rodgers...and he sang, too, I
think, but...not the same guy.
Richard Glueck
JesiAna (jes...@aol.com) wrote:
: "The Sausage Guy" was Jimmy Dean, not Jimmie Rodgers...and he sang, too, I
: think, but...not the same guy.
You mean he sang about sausage? Or was that meant metaphorically,
as in singing about breakfast in general?
:-)
RDG
Richard Glueck
Phil Kiernan (phi...@gte.net) wrote:
: Does any one have any info on where or what happened to Jimmie F. Rodgers. I
: always felt that he never received credit for much of his work. He wrote
: many of his songs and I have some old LP's from the fifties but it seems he
: just fell off the edge of the world ???
Apparently I'm wrong, but I could swear I had heard on NPR several
years ago, that he was badly hurt in a fight at a nightclub and was near
death at the time.
He had a great voice, and his own t.v. variety show in
the early 60's. His version of "Kisses Sweeter Than Wine" was one of the
best covers imho.
RDG
John Lupton
In article <199807060614...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, jes...@aol.com
(JesiAna) wrote:
>"The Sausage Guy" was Jimmy Dean, not Jimmie Rodgers...and he sang, too, I
>think, but...not the same guy.
This confusion of identities pops up on the country music newsgroup now and
again. Just to keep your scorecards straight:
1) The *original* Jimmie Rodgers, aka "The Singing Brakeman", "The Father Of
Country Music" was a Mississippi native who recorded something like 110
classic, seminal country tracks between 1927 and his death from tuberculosis
in 1934.
2) The "other" Jimmie Rodgers was a pop/country star of the late 50s/early 60s
who had a string of hits that included "Uh Oh I'm Falling In Love Again",
"Honeycomb", "Bimbombay" and others. He had a network TV variety show for a
time in the 60s, I think it was on CBS, but I'm not sure of that. Last I
heard, he is still alive and performs in Branson, MO. Stylistically, he was
sort of a slightly more countrified version of Andy Williams (who is also in
Branson these days). I don't recall the details, but the story I recall is
that he was nearly killed by an L.A. cop during a traffic stop in a case of
mistaken identity, or something like that. Maybe someone else remembers the
details...
3) The "Sausage King" is Jimmy Dean, who was a country star of the late
50s/early 60s, and whose hits included "PT109", "Little Black Book", and his
biggest hit, "Big Bad John" (ca. 1963). He also had a network variety show,
and this is probably where a lot of people confuse him with the "other" Jimmie
Rodgers. If I recall correctly, Dean's show was on ABC. For those Muppet fans
amongst you, one of the recurring characters on Dean's show was the Muppet
dog, Rowlf, who 15 years or so later was playing piano on the "Muppet Show"
when it swept the country. Jimmy Dean also appeared in "Diamonds Are Forever",
one of Sean Connery's final appearances as James Bond. Dean played reclusive
Vegas billionaire Willard Whyte, a thinly disguised cinematic version of
Howard Hughes. If you were born after 1965 or so, Jimmy Dean is probably a lot
more familiar as the guy who appears in the TV commercials for his own brand
of sausage.
There, now aren't you glad you asked?? <g>...
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Joel Weber
> he was
> sort of a slightly more countrified version of Andy Williams (who is also in
> Branson these days). I don't recall the details, but the story I recall is
> that he was nearly killed by an L.A. cop during a traffic stop in a case of
> mistaken identity, or something like that. Maybe someone else remembers the
> details...
>
Some years back I had a guest booked on A.M Los Angeles. My guy got to
follow Jimmie Rogers and a cute, sweet, little old lady who just
happened to be a Titanic survivor. (I looked at him and said: "You're
dogmeat.) Anyway Jimmie did talk about a "bad accident" that made it
difficult to remember the words to his songs. Unfortunately I was so
fascinated by the Titanic lady I wasn't paying much attention. Are we
saying here he was beaten up by a cop? In America? Los Angeles? Who
ever heard of such a thing?
joel
Joel Weber
This is way off topic but for about a year in 1967 that Roulette label
was red hot with three hot selling artists: Jimmie Rogers (now we know
that he's still working); Jimmy Bowen (he became a very successful
record producer in Nashville and Buddy Knox (Party Doll). Wonder what
became of him?
joel
deepstblu
John Lupton wrote:
>
> 2) The "other" Jimmie Rodgers was a pop/country star of the late 50s/early 60s
> who had a string of hits that included "Uh Oh I'm Falling In Love Again",
> "Honeycomb", "Bimbombay" and others. He had a network TV variety show for a
> time in the 60s, I think it was on CBS, but I'm not sure of that. Last I
> sort of a slightly more countrified version of Andy Williams (who is also in
> Branson these days). I don't recall the details, but the story I recall is
> that he was nearly killed by an L.A. cop during a traffic stop in a case of
> mistaken identity, or something like that. Maybe someone else remembers the
> details...
off-duty policeman on the San Diego Freeway while driving home from a
party. The official story was that Rogers fell while being questioned.
Rogers: "My doctor told me that I'd have had to jump off the roof of my
car eight times, landing on my head, to cause that kind of damage."
Rogers endured three brain operations and had a plate inserted in his
skull. Lawsuits in the case were settled out of court.
Rick B.
Source: Liner notes to the Rhino best-of CD
Stewa1
Jimmie Rodgers was badly hurt going home late one night in LA. He was badly
beaten for evidently no reason by an LA cop. Joey Bishop took interest and
gave the public updates on Jimmie's condition on his nightly variety show on
ABC-TV....including interviews with Mr Rodgers.
take are,jim
Stewa1
It is interesting to note that Jimmie claims he was NEVER paid royalties by
Roulette on all those hit records!! When he asked about it...he was told
"you're making money off concerts and TV, aren't you." He later switched to
Dot then on to A&M and then a couple smaller labels.
take care,jim
Don Groves
RETRO...@worldnet.att.net says...
>
...snip...
> Are we saying here he was beaten up by a cop? In America? Los Angeles?
> Who ever heard of such a thing?
>
> joel
Well, it was unusual in one respect - Jimmie is white.
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Don Groves (groves_acm_org)
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Jim Hori
John Lupton <jlu...@sasx.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
>This confusion of identities pops up on the country music newsgroup now and
>again. Just to keep your scorecards straight:
>
>1) The *original* Jimmie Rodgers, aka "The Singing Brakeman", "The Father Of
>Country Music" was a Mississippi native who recorded something like 110
>classic, seminal country tracks between 1927 and his death from tuberculosis
>in 1934.
>
>who had a string of hits that included "Uh Oh I'm Falling In Love Again",
>"Honeycomb", "Bimbombay" and others.
To add to the confusion of those easily confused there is also a
Chicaago bluesman named Jimmy Rogers.
....
jimh