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rwa...@spamfree.cableinet.co.uk

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Jul 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM7/8/00
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Hi,

Does anyone know where I can get a recording of th song 'Over The
Hills and Faraway' (made famous by the TV series 'Sharpe').

thanks

Bob

Bruce Olson

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No recording, but a complete text of the song (dating from 1706) and an
ABC of the tune are near the beginning of the Scarce Songs 2 file on my
website.

Bruce Olson
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Bruce Olson

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PS: The title is "The Recruiting Officer". I've also seen the song in a
Scots manuscript of the 1740s with the heading "Over the Hills and Far
Away", but at that time (and a little earlier) it is common to find song
headings as the title of the tune to which it was sung, rather than the
title of the song.

Bruce Olson

Gordon Hamlett

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rwa...@spamfree.cableinet.co.uk wrote in message
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>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know where I can get a recording of th song 'Over The
>Hills and Faraway' (made famous by the TV series 'Sharpe').
>

There was a CD released of music from the series but I have no further
details. Try looking in the film/tv section at your local store.

HTH

Gordon Hamlett

paul draper

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<rwa...@spamfree.cableinet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a recording of th song 'Over The
> Hills and Faraway' (made famous by the TV series 'Sharpe').
>

There is an album of the soundtrack to Sharpe with performances by John
Tams, Kate Rusby and many others. I think the song was included in John Gays
'Beggars Opera' so you should find it on any recording of this.


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Paul Draper

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george_hawes

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It's on one of the Shirley and Dolly Colins albums (as part of a
Beggers' Opera suite). Though (IIRC) that recording may not have
any words . . .

G.

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Cyril & Sandy Alberga

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There are four versions of this tune included in the Harmonia Mundi CD,
HMC 901071, titled "The Beggar's Opera: Original songs & airs", recorded
by The Broadside Band, directed by Jeremy Barlow. The accompanying
booklet states that the air was very popular in both England and the
U.S., with various sets of words. The only non-instramental version,
however, is that from the Beggar's Opera, and thus not a "folk" song.

The disc is worth getting, IMHO, for "Would you have a young virgin" if
nothing else. An unusual case in which Gay actually wrote more decorous
words than the original.

Cyril N. Alberga

paul draper

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Cyril & Sandy Alberga <alb...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> There are four versions of this tune included in the Harmonia Mundi CD,
> HMC 901071, titled "The Beggar's Opera: Original songs & airs", recorded
> by The Broadside Band, directed by Jeremy Barlow. The accompanying
> booklet states that the air was very popular in both England and the
> U.S., with various sets of words. The only non-instramental version,
> however, is that from the Beggar's Opera, and thus not a "folk" song.

That's debateable. Didn't Gay use already existing songs and airs rather
than original music?

Bruce Olson

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> --
> Paul Draper
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> 020 7369 2754


John Gay's song in 'The Beggar's Opera' to the tune "Over the Hills and
Far Away" (# 16) commences "Were I laid on Greenland's Coast",
and is in no way related to "The Recruiting Officer".

[All the tunes in all of he ballad operas that were printed with
music are indexed in the file BALOP.HTM on my website. A tune was
sometimes given different names in different ballad operas.]

Cyril & Sandy Alberga

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I'm not sure what you are debating. Yes, all the melodies were from
traditional and/or popular songs (well almost all, one, "Let us Take the
Road", is lifted from Handel's opera Rinoldo), but all the lyrics were
Gay's. Gay wasn't a musician, but rather a playwright. The overture
and arrangements (such as they are) were written by one Dr. Johann
Christoph Pepusch. (Looking at the score it is clear that it was
assumed that the performers would realize a figured base, but the
published score doesn't include the chord numbers.)

What I was trying to say was that while the CD in question contains the
"folk" tune, it does not contain the "folk" song -- of which there were
apparently several.

Cyril

paul draper

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Cyril & Sandy Alberga <alb...@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I'm not sure what you are debating.

Whether it was a folksong or not (without getting into the equine thing). I
was unaware that Gay put *original* lyrics to the tune.

> Yes, all the melodies were from
> traditional and/or popular songs (well almost all, one, "Let us Take the
> Road", is lifted from Handel's opera Rinoldo), but all the lyrics were
> Gay's. Gay wasn't a musician, but rather a playwright. The overture
> and arrangements (such as they are) were written by one Dr. Johann
> Christoph Pepusch. (Looking at the score it is clear that it was
> assumed that the performers would realize a figured base, but the
> published score doesn't include the chord numbers.)
>

Ouch! That must have made for quite a few different interpretations.

> <SNIP>

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