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Mike Shames

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Apr 11, 1994, 7:30:08 PM4/11/94
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In article <xk9tqhF....@delphi.com> bast...@delphi.com writes:
>I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird in a golden
>cage" or maybe golden chain. Does anyone know what album this came off of
>and whether its available on CD. I don't even know if the groups qualifies as

could you be thinking of the gay 90's hit --
"shes only a bird in a gilded cage" ?????

right up there with " a picture from lifes other side"
and "a mothers smile"

hankies are mandatory

fuzzy


bast...@delphi.com

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Apr 11, 1994, 7:48:37 PM4/11/94
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I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird in a golden
cage" or maybe golden chain. Does anyone know what album this came off of
and whether its available on CD. I don't even know if the groups qualifies as
"folk" but since I'm no spring chicken its obviously made a lasting impression
on this folk music lover.

Graeme Hirst

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Apr 11, 1994, 8:24:23 PM4/11/94
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bast...@delphi.com writes:

That's "White Bird" (written by Linda and David Laflamme), from the
album "It's A Beautiful Day" by It's A Beautiful Day (Columbia CS 9768).
I've never seen it on CD. A fine vinyl copy will command a premium
price.

I wouldn't call it folk music, though some of the tracks on the album,
including "White Bird", do have a folkish feel; others are more
rockish. In my conceptual record store, I'd file them in the same bin
as Dead Can Dance, but I still haven't figured out just which bin that
should be. "Eclectic Groups Whose Names Are Whole Sentences", perhaps.

Doug Landauer

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Apr 11, 1994, 8:33:01 PM4/11/94
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In article <xk9tqhF....@delphi.com>, <bast...@delphi.com> wrote:
> I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird in a
> golden cage" or maybe golden chain. Does anyone know what album this

Cage.

> came off of and whether its available on CD.

The group was called "It's A Beautiful Day". Don't know whether it's
on CD. Just a few weeks ago, I was just listening to my vinyl copy of
their best album, I forget whether it was called "It's A Beautiful Day"
or "White Bird". Another great song, "Girl With No Eyes" is on the same
LP.

> I don't even know if the groups qualifies as "folk"

No, they probably don't, but they sure did sing well together. I think
they called it "Acid Rock" at the time, based on some of the less
successful cuts on that album. "It's A Beautiful Day" had one or two
(or more?) other albums, none anywhere near as good as the one containing
"White Bird".
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Mike Neverisky

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Apr 11, 1994, 9:02:04 PM4/11/94
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>I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird in a golden
>cage" or maybe golden chain. Does anyone know what album this came off of
>and whether its available on CD....

The group was called: It's a Beautiful Day and featured a brother
and sister... LaFlamme was it? The song was "White Bird".

I'd call it pop music myself.


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Gregory Bramhall

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Apr 11, 1994, 11:03:10 PM4/11/94
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>>I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird >>in a golden
cage" Does anyone know what album this came off >>of and whether its available
on CD.

The song is called "White Bird" from a group called "It's a Beautiful Day". It
seems that it has recieved more airplay on "Classic Rock" radio stations than
it did when it was current (1969?) I have heard that it is available on CD but
expensive, $20+ !!!!

Great Song.

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James Lynch

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Apr 11, 1994, 11:35:20 PM4/11/94
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The CD "It's A Beautiful Day" will be released in this country in the
next month or so, according to Rolling Stone, I believe. Patience will
get you all you desire.
James

JK13

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Apr 12, 1994, 10:45:02 AM4/12/94
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"It's A Beautiful Day" is definitely available on cd, but you'd be hard pressed
to find it in the stores. Try catalogs, or telnet to cdconnection.com and use
their database. Sorry I can't give the label or number of the cd right now, but
I'll send another message after I get home and check it out.

Richard Enzie

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Apr 12, 1994, 4:34:09 PM4/12/94
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bast...@delphi.com writes:

The name of the song is "White Bird" by Its a Beautiful Day. I think they only 1 or maybe 2 albums. Its David LaFlamme and his wife (at the time anyway). I still have the album, even!!

richard

John Lupton

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Apr 12, 1994, 5:17:18 AM4/12/94
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In article <2ocq7t$g...@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> land...@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer) writes:
>From: land...@morocco.Eng.Sun.COM (Doug Landauer)
>Subject: Re: Help me find "White Bird with a Golden Chain"
>Date: 12 Apr 1994 00:33:01 GMT

>In article <xk9tqhF....@delphi.com>, <bast...@delphi.com> wrote:
>> I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird in a
>> golden cage" or maybe golden chain. Does anyone know what album this

>Cage.

>> came off of and whether its available on CD.

>The group was called "It's A Beautiful Day". Don't know whether it's
>on CD. Just a few weeks ago, I was just listening to my vinyl copy of
>their best album, I forget whether it was called "It's A Beautiful Day"
>or "White Bird". Another great song, "Girl With No Eyes" is on the same
>LP.

>> I don't even know if the groups qualifies as "folk"

>No, they probably don't, but they sure did sing well together. I think
>they called it "Acid Rock" at the time, based on some of the less
>successful cuts on that album. "It's A Beautiful Day" had one or two
>(or more?) other albums, none anywhere near as good as the one containing
>"White Bird".

I had the good fortune to see It's A Beautiful Day perform on several
occasions back in the early 70s. "White Bird" is indeed from their self-titled
album, released in '69 or '70...other good cuts on the album include "Girl
With No Eyes" and "Bombay Calling". The leader of the band, as well as main
songwriter and lead male vocalist was violinist David LaFlamme. His sister
Linda was the keyboardist. Female vocalist was Patti Santos, who had a
gorgeous voice. My memory tells me the drummer was Val Fuentes, but I don't
remember the lead guitar or bass players' names. Linda LaF. left the group
sometime around '71, David a year or two later...I think he was replaced on
fiddle by Greg Block. Somewhere in there, Billy Gregory was the guitarist.

I don't think IABD ever was what I recall as "acid rock". On their records,
they had a very mellow, sometimes sweet pop sound, but if you ever got to see
them live, they were as good a full-tilt boogie band as you'd ever want to
see...but not acid rock. If you can find a copy of their "Live at Carnegie
Hall" album, you'll find out what I mean. From memory (I have all their
albums, but they're at home...not here at work), their other albums were
"Marrying Maiden", "Choice Quality Stuff" and "Anywhere...Anytime".

Thanks for reminding me of them...I truly loved that band. They were extremely
popular in the West and Southwest. I recall seeing them headline a festival in
Austin in Sept of '70 that included "lesser" acts like the Allman Brothers
( Duane was still alive) and Leon Russell.

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Peter Poirier

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Apr 13, 1994, 1:26:28 PM4/13/94
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In article <2ocmi0$s...@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> nas...@sse05.Corp.Sun.COM (Mike Shames) writes:
>From: nas...@sse05.Corp.Sun.COM (Mike Shames)

>Subject: Re: Help me find "White Bird with a Golden Chain"
>Date: 11 Apr 1994 23:30:08 GMT

>In article <xk9tqhF....@delphi.com> bast...@delphi.com writes:
>>I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird in a golden
>>cage" or maybe golden chain. Does anyone know what album this came off of
>>and whether its available on CD. I don't even know if the groups qualifies as

Does it contain the line "white bird must fly or she will die?" In that case
its by Velvet Underground or possibly the old Jefferson Airplane.


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bast...@delphi.com

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Apr 13, 1994, 8:03:29 PM4/13/94
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Mike Shames <nas...@sse05.Corp.Sun.COM> writes:

> could you be thinking of the gay 90's hit --
> "shes only a bird in a gilded cage" ?????
>
> right up there with " a picture from lifes other side"
> and "a mothers smile"
>
> hankies are mandatory
>
> fuzzy

fuzzy you still don't get it do you.
Keep trying, your efforts are probably appreciated by someone.
I haven't got a clue who the demented sould might be.
By the way, are you doing this on company time?

Benjamin Kline Lowengard

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Apr 14, 1994, 10:36:01 AM4/14/94
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Well, you're half-close!... It can be found on two albums..neither by VU or JA
though... "It's a Beautiful Day" and the writer's own album (the name
of which I can't remember) David LaFlamme. Out of '60's era San Francisco
It's has beautiful vocals and cool lyrics. LaFlamme, though, felt the
band never got it right and when he recorded his solo album he re-did "White
Bird" -though not as well as the first version IMHO. Where is he now? Who
knows....will a cd be released..I doubt it..though Rhino records digs up
the most incredible recordings..it would surprise me very little if "It's
a Beautiful Day" shows up sometime.

-benj

Steve Harris

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Apr 14, 1994, 4:11:21 PM4/14/94
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FWIW, "White Bird" was on It's A Beautiful Day's first album. I think the
title was "It's A Beautiful Day".

The cover is a painting of a young woman in a victorian dress standing on a
rocky promintory against a blue sky with puffy clouds.

The album jacket opened to a double-wide photo of a medieval-looking plaza
with a cartesian pattern of grooves in the (stonework?) floor. It is dusk.
The members of the band are standing on different squares (or perhaps line
intersections) of the pattern. It is too dark to see their faces clearly.

If you stood the album half-open in a corner of your college dorm room,
then, (under suitable altered-mind conditions) the inner photo took on a
surreal quality.

The second side of the album featured a moody, extended song, which my
roommate described as "evocative of some pagan ritual". :-)

On subsequent albums, Linda LaFlamme is not present, only David. And the
mysterious (some might say pretentious, although I liked them) overtones of
the first album are gone.

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Martin Beizer

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Apr 16, 1994, 11:33:36 AM4/16/94
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ppoi...@kofax.com (Peter Poirier) writes:

> >From: nas...@sse05.Corp.Sun.COM (Mike Shames)
> >Subject: Re: Help me find "White Bird with a Golden Chain"
> >Date: 11 Apr 1994 23:30:08 GMT
>
> >In article <xk9tqhF....@delphi.com> bast...@delphi.com writes:
> >>I remember a song during my college days about a "white bird in a golden
> >>cage" or maybe golden chain. Does anyone know what album this came off of
> >>and whether its available on CD. I don't even know if the groups qualifies
>

> Does it contain the line "white bird must fly or she will die?" In that case
> its by Velvet Underground or possibly the old Jefferson Airplane.

The album is "It's A Beautiful Day", Columbia Records CS 9768, from around
1967 or 1968. There was a rumor that the master tapes for this were
destroyed in some kind of dispute, so only a limited number were ever
pressed. I don't know if this is true; if it is, you won't find it on CD.

Martin Beizer mar...@cellar.org

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Wendy E. Betts

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Apr 20, 1994, 6:53:30 PM4/20/94
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In article <P3sVkc...@cellar.org>, Martin Beizer <mar...@cellar.org> wrote:

>The album is "It's A Beautiful Day", Columbia Records CS 9768, from around
>1967 or 1968. There was a rumor that the master tapes for this were
>destroyed in some kind of dispute, so only a limited number were ever
>pressed. I don't know if this is true; if it is, you won't find it on CD.

Presumably it's not, because this album was available on CD several
years ago. Unfortunately, it was very expensive (perhaps an import?)
so I couldn't buy it. I have no idea whether it's still available.
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Ken Josenhans

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Apr 21, 1994, 2:53:35 PM4/21/94
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In article <P3sVkc...@cellar.org>, Martin Beizer <mar...@cellar.org> wrote:

)The album is "It's A Beautiful Day", Columbia Records CS 9768, from around
)1967 or 1968. There was a rumor that the master tapes for this were
)destroyed in some kind of dispute, so only a limited number were ever
)pressed. I don't know if this is true; if it is, you won't find it on CD.

Wendy E. Betts <w...@armory.com> writes:

)Presumably it's not, because this album was available on CD several
)years ago. Unfortunately, it was very expensive (perhaps an import?)
)so I couldn't buy it. I have no idea whether it's still available.

The story I heard was that the tapes were controlled by the band's
former manager, who took the capitalist approach of releasing the
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY album, along with other material he controlled,
on his own San Francisco Sound label for a very, very high price.
When I first saw this CD it was priced at about $50; it later declined
steadily in price, and I bought it a few years ago for $19.
I have not seen copies recently so I don't know if it is still available.

Sony, the new owners of the Columbia label, announced some time ago
that they would issue an anthology of It's A Beautiful Day. However,
something snarled these plans, and the anthology did not appear as
scheduled.

-- Ken Josenhans, and it is indeed a beautiful day
k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu

SallyGr

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Apr 22, 1994, 1:46:06 AM4/22/94
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In article <P3sVkc...@cellar.org>, mar...@cellar.org (Martin Beizer) writes:

> The album is "It's A Beautiful Day", Columbia Records CS 9768, from around
> 1967 or 1968. There was a rumor that the master tapes for this were
> destroyed in some kind of dispute, so only a limited number were ever
> pressed. I don't know if this is true; if it is, you won't find it on CD.

I have the album on CD. It was released by the label "San Francisco Sound" at
P.O. Box 4011, Malibu, CA 90265. It's catalog number SFS 11790DA. They'll
send you the info if you write.

Sally Greenberg

Bob Ostwald

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Apr 25, 1994, 12:10:50 AM4/25/94
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>>The album is "It's A Beautiful Day"...There was a rumor that the master tapes
for this were destroyed...I don't know if this is true; if it is, you won't
find it on CD.<<

>Presumably it's not, because this album was available on CD several years
ago. Unfortunately, it was very expensive (perhaps an import?) so I couldn't


buy it. I have no idea whether it's still available.<

_________
I just bought this used on vinyl about two weeks ago. It is still available on
CD but only as an import. The list price I have seen is about $25.

David A. Pearlman

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Apr 26, 1994, 5:50:25 PM4/26/94
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In article <2p4bpo$q...@nic.scruz.net> w...@armory.com (Wendy E. Betts) writes:
>In article <P3sVkc...@cellar.org>, Martin Beizer <mar...@cellar.org> wrote:
)
)>The album is "It's A Beautiful Day", Columbia Records CS 9768, from around
)>1967 or 1968. There was a rumor that the master tapes for this were
)>destroyed in some kind of dispute, so only a limited number were ever
)>pressed. I don't know if this is true; if it is, you won't find it on CD.
)
)Presumably it's not, because this album was available on CD several
)years ago. Unfortunately, it was very expensive (perhaps an import?)
)so I couldn't buy it. I have no idea whether it's still available.

Definitely not. Columbia Records was set to release a 2CD compilation
of IABD last year. There was even a long article about IABD and the
set in Goldmine. But it never came out, almost certainly due to
legal problems with the former manager for IABD, who claims ownership
of the original master recordings...

The reason any copies you find are very expensive is because the former
manager releases them with an obscene list price.

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