Maybe not the most popular, "The Mary Ellen Carter" is among
the best by any artist, but not so easy to perform up to his
standard.
Tim Herbst
Well Aloha right back at ya!
As far as favorites it would be hard to say because he was my all time favorite
perfromer and I like everything he ever did. As far as popularity..... I think
that "Mary Ellen Carter" , "Northwest Passage" and "Barrett's Privateers" would
have to be included in that list, plus they are great sing along songs.
Jon-Jon
AinaFolk wrote:
> ALOHA !
> I just got turned on to Stan Rogers... way cool... and he is so prolific..
> Anyway I thought of singin' a few of his tunes... but I wonder which are most
> popular among any of you out there who know his work... I don't have a
A few weeks ago I was in London, Ontario and drove by the apartment where he
wrote this. (The address is in the liner notes.) Didn't have time to pound
on the door and ask the present occupant to let me look around.
"Mary Ellen Carter" and " Barret's Privateers" are both good song but every
pub band in Canada has done them to death along with "Northwest Passage."
They never seem to do "The House of Orange", "Lock Keeper", "Tiny Fish For
Japan" or "The Idiot".
I like "First Christmas", which I think would have been better titled
"Silver Star." Undoubtedly one of the most depressing Christmas songs ever
written.
I can't say I like the two East Coast tribute CD's. It would have been
great to attend the tribute concert, but if I am going to listen to
recordings of the songs I have to say none of the songs on the tribute CD's
beat the original versions.
________________
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Windsor, Ontario, Canada
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." (J. Danforth Quayle)
> They never seem to do "The House of Orange", "Lock Keeper", "Tiny Fish For
> Japan" or "The Idiot".
>
> I like "First Christmas", which I think would have been better titled
> "Silver Star." Undoubtedly one of the most depressing Christmas songs ever
> written.
What about Lies and Forty Five Years? Both lovely songs and excellent
tributes!
> I can't say I like the two East Coast tribute CD's. It would have been
> great to attend the tribute concert, but if I am going to listen to
> recordings of the songs I have to say none of the songs on the tribute CD's
> beat the original versions.
I was at the first of the two concerts! IT was a thrill to sit there
in the auditorium that was STAN's HOME! Listening to those songs sung
by this awesome crowd of people was amazing. Modabo's Northwest
Passage was SO terrific. The Acadian group did an especially lively
version of the song they performed.
Some of the acts did NOT impress me, but most of them did.
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Well, others have mentioned many of my favorites, but a sleeper favorite
might be "Harris and the Mare" -- haunting in both melody and words.
As a songwriter, another of my favorites is "The Candle Song," in which
Stan manages to turn the angst of writer's block into a song -- sort of a
meta-song.
But these two are probable sleepers. If you really want "popular" rather
than "favorite," I agree that "Mary Ellen Carter" or "Barret's Privateers"
are probably among the most well-known.
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I also love "Mary Ellen Carter," "The Idiot," "Field Behind the Plow," and I
can't resist "Northwest Passage," (the first Rogers song I ever heard) or
"Barrett's Privateers."
However, if you want a song that will make hair stand on end and haunt with its
mystery and sadness, try "The Jeannie C," which is about the saddest song I've
ever heard!
Rogers was a great voice, both from the instrument and the poetry standpoint. I
wish I'd discovered him while he was still alive, but he only came to my CD
collection a year or so ago.
Jesiana
"If you can walk, you can dance. If you can talk, you can sing."
Nigel Sellars
Lies
You Can't Stay Here
Make or Break Harbor
White Squall
House of Orange
Acadian Saturday Night
Tiny Fish for Japan
MacDonnell on the Heights
The Bluenose
If I keep thinking I'll only end up with more. The man never wrote a bad song
in his (too-short) life.
Bob G.
I been a fan of Stan's music for years and sung a few here and there. Most of
my favorites have been mentioned.
For a fun tune you might also try Athens Queen--great in pubs. The Maid on the
Shore is a great one to sing if there's ladies in the audience--nice for the
women to win one every now and again.
You might also want to listen to Stan's brother Garnet Rogers--also a great
voice and some great tunes!
Chris Mayberry
christophe...@na.amedd.army.mil
Just for the record, "Rolling Down to Old Maui" is a traditional folk
song (although Stan did do a great rendition).
I would have to say that "Mary Ellen Carter" probably remains my
favourite of Stan's song. Stan was a friend of mine and I remember Mary Ellen
Carter as one that he was particularly proud of.
Mike Regenstreif
Folk Roots/Folk Branches on CKUT
http://pages.montrealonline.com/ckutfolk
>Lies
Field behind the Plow
Yes, and re-yes! Thanks Joseph!
And Jesiana mentions The Jeannie C. - I don't know that one; if it's
more sad/sentimental than "Lies," I probably won't be able to sing it,
for choking up!
-Eric Root
Actually, it's called "The Song of the Candle". It seems that most people
seem to prefer "Home in Halifax", but my favorite recording is "Turnabout"
mostly because of that song as well as "The Jeannie C."
John Fereira
Ithaca, NY
ja...@cornell.edu
Um, not to nitpick, but that's 'Turnaround' - just in case anyone's out
there looking for it.
My favorite is probably a twelve-way tie among a bunch of tunes
including "Giant", "White Collar Holler", "Fisherman's Wharf", "Jeannie
C.", "Lies", "Barrett's Privateers", "Lock-Keeper" and others.
Non-commitally,
-Chris
(remove '.lava' from my e-mail address to reply)
Ray Millar
Tamworth
Staffs
England
AinaFolk wrote:
>I just got turned on to Stan Rogers... way cool... and he is so >prolific... I wonder which are most popular among any of you out there >who know his work...
"Northwest Passage" and "Barrett's Privateers" - or some of his other
maritime stuff - are probably Rogers' most popular, but I think "Lies"
is the best thing he ever did: it's the quintessential song on aging.
Tom Stovall CJF
Farrier & Blacksmith
sto...@wt.net
http://web.wt.net/~stovall
Farriery is work therapy for the morally handicapped.
White Squall :)
Kimba
On 18 Jul 1999 20:50:09 GMT, aina...@aol.com (AinaFolk) wrote:
>ALOHA !
>I just got turned on to Stan Rogers... way cool... and he is so prolific..
>Anyway I thought of singin' a few of his tunes... but I wonder which are most
>popular among any of you out there who know his work... I don't have a
>favorite yet, but I plan to do the acapella whalers tune... "Rolling Down To
>Maui" for sure..... I hope there's enough input from folks who know Stan
>Rogers music to make a worthwhile thread outta this... but ya'll will surely be
>a great help to selecting popular Stan Rogers songs to add to my song list...
>Mahalo (thanx)
I used to think that joy was the break between sorrows.
(I'd attribute this but I haven't found out who sang it yet)
But I can't believe that no one else has mentioned "Fogarty's Cove"!!! I
*love* that song. Also (in no particular order) "Lock Keeper", "Northwest
Passage", "Forty-Five Years", "Mary Ellen Carter"....and there was one I
heard on WERS (Boston) sometime last week that totally gripped me but whose
title I didn't catch. Guess it's time to go buy another Stan CD :)
-Amy
It's great to hear of people who haven't lost their enjoyment of
Barrett's Privateers. After playing in East Coast Canadian pubs and bars
for a couple of years, I can honestly say that I never want to hear that
shanty ever again. In between sets the bars would always have it on
stand-by so that every testosterone-fueled yobbo could shout "God Damn
(Hick!) Youz Arle!" with renewed vigour. It's funny that people still
sing it in pubs with such joy, because that's the last emotion that
comes to my mind when I listen to a song about being "a broken man on a
Halifax pier". It is not a jubilant drinking song, but a rather tough
lesson about being used. However, I fear that I will never be able to
listen to Stan's music with fresh ears. All I can do is take solace in
the songs that one never hears in Halifax pubs--like The House of Orange
(is that the right title? My memory is like the proverbial
sieve)--simply because they don't sell enough Coors Light.
Cheers
--
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Halifax, NS B3L 1K5
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For something really poignant I would suggest Last Watch. This song has a very
powerful statement about how we treat older people in the workforce. Having
listened to some of the sound bites at your website it is one I think you could
sing well albeit very different than Stan.
Jon-Jon
AinaFolk wrote:
> ALOHA !
> I just got turned on to Stan Rogers... way cool... and he is so prolific..
> Anyway I thought of singin' a few of his tunes... but I wonder which are most
> popular among any of you out there who know his work... I don't have a
> favorite yet, but I plan to do the acapella whalers tune... "Rolling Down To
> Maui" for sure..... I hope there's enough input from folks who know Stan
> Rogers music to make a worthwhile thread outta this... but ya'll will surely be
> a great help to selecting popular Stan Rogers songs to add to my song list...
> Mahalo (thanx)
Don Cornish
dcor...@interlog.com
I only know 2 and I think that they are both great songs: Make and Break
Harbour is my favourite and I really enjoy Barrett's Privateers. It looks
like I will have to search for more of his work,
Jon
The Field Behind the Plow
Giant
Lies
Mary Ellen Carter
Turnaround
> ALOHA !
> I just got turned on to Stan Rogers... way cool... and he is so prolific..
> Anyway I thought of singin' a few of his tunes... but I wonder which are most
> popular among any of you out there who know his work... I don't have a
> favorite yet, but I plan to do the acapella whalers tune... "Rolling Down To
> Maui" for sure..... I hope there's enough input from folks who know Stan
> Rogers music to make a worthwhile thread outta this... but ya'll will
surely be
> a great help to selecting popular Stan Rogers songs to add to my song list...
> Mahalo (thanx)
> Gordon
> Local Folk Troubadour
> http:www.niu.com/gordon
> Aina...@aol.com
> Learn about Hawai'i thru the music of:
> Gordon Freitas (fray'-tess)
> Songwriter, Storyteller, Local Folk Troubadour
> http://www.niu.com/gordon
I enjoy the song "lies," and if you like that I suggest you try to get
your hands on the lyrics to a parody called "Fries," by my friend and
really good singer friend Nancy Louise Freeman. (www.primenet.com/~nanbgl)
It's a great song about how no matter where you eat, regardless of the
restaurant, everything seems to come with fries.
TT
It's not my favourite Stan song (I suppose that would have to be, like a lot
of other people, "The Mary Ellen Carter" and "Northwest Passage"), but I
felt I should put in a good word for *one* of my favourites --"Flowers of
Bermuda". Odd that no one else has mentioned it. I had the pleasure,
several times, of seeing Stan in performance, and feeling the floor
literally shake while he was roaring out "Barrett's Privateers", keeping
time by stomping down with his mighty right foot (he was a BIG man, in more
ways than one!). Damn, but I miss the guy.
Chris Mayberry
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1. Sailor's Rest - I'd never heard it during Stan's lifetime, so when "Home
in Halifax" came out, it was a brand new thing for me. I spent days with
DADGAD learning it.
2. The Pharisee - never heard Stan sing it. Garnet played it on a CBC
Morningside interview years later. It feels like it could be Stan's
"autobiography" song.
>ALOHA !
>I just got turned on to Stan Rogers... way cool... and he is so prolific..
>Anyway I thought of singin' a few of his tunes... but I wonder which are most
>popular among any of you out there who know his work...
I don't really think it's possible to pick out one song as his best
work. They're all brilliant. He had the knack of putting perfect
simple melodies to perfect poetry, and the world is a much sadder
place for his loss.
I've been listening to his music for well over 15 years now, and I
feel cheated that I never got the chance to see him perform live.
I thought I had all his albums, and related ones, but somewhere in
this thread there is a mention of two East Coast Tribute albums. I
have one of these (pink cover - recorded at Dalhousie Arts Centre,
Halifax, on 23rd and 24th April 1995) - could someone please point me
at the other?
many thanks
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OK - thanks Jim. I'll go and do a bit of searching.
cheers
Angus's brother really was the chief of the MacIntoshes, MacIntosh of
MacIntosh, and on his brother's death
he returned to Scotland to take over the family seat after decades in
Canada. Upon Angus's death, Alexander became MacIntosh of MacIntosh and
took
his father's place . Alexander was half French Canadian, his mother being
descended from some worthy sent from France to Detroit in the days when it
was a French fort. She is buried at Assumption Cemetary in Windsor;
presumably Angus and Alexander rest in Scotland.
Moy Hall, however, was not on Lake St. Clair as the song has it but nearby
on the Detroit River, between what are now Moy and Gladstone Avenues [other
accounts say between Moy and Hall Avenues] in what is now Windsor, Ontario.
Just up the street from here, and it originally had a shipyard in front of
it on the river, where The Nancy was constructed. It was torn down in 1912
to some public outcry. (Plus ca change, if you know Windsor and recent
events here . . . .)
________________
Timothy Jaques tja...@netcom.ca
Windsor, Ontario, Canada
"I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." (J. Danforth Quayle)
He had a great sense of humor.
Gordon MacDonald
Gordon A. MacDonald, Jr.
"Jeannie C" isn't sad/sentimental like "Lies." It's sad all right, but in a
spooky, haunting way...it literally gave me a chill the first time I heard it!
It is kind of mysterious, and not sweet or sentimental. I recommend it, it is a
very good piece of storytelling in song!
Jesiana
"If you can walk, you can dance. If you can talk, you can sing."
Chris
In article <w7Lm3.3585$5r2....@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>,
"Timothy Jaques" <tja...@netcom.ca> wrote:
> Speaking of Stan Rogers, I recently bought a book of local history
("The
> Western District") which contains an account of Alexander MacIntosh
and his
> father, Angus MacIntosh. Angus owned The
> Nancy, mentioned in Stan's song, and Alexander was its master. It saw
> action in the war of 1812
> before being sunk by the Americans
> Timothy Jaques tja...@netcom.ca
> Windsor, Ontario, Canada
> "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." (J. Danforth
Quayle)
>
>
--
>Here's another true story, about Mary Ellen Carter, rather than Nancy.
>A number of years ago (10+ ?)the collier Marine Electric floundered and
>sank in a storm off the coast of Virginia. There was an inquiry that
>cast some blame on her owners (the smiling bastards!)and whether the
>maintenance had been kept up--never found out the results of that
>part. At least one of her crew survived (after this many years the
>details have grown fuzzy--in a half-sunk life boat? Clinging to
>wreckage?). In the interviews after his rescue, he said that the only
>thing that kept him going and kept him sane was singing Mary Ellen
>Carter over and over again. A life saving song--I'm sure it's that
>sailor's favorite!
>
>Chris
The survivor is interviewed on "One Warm Line" the Stan Rogers tribute
video. It's copyright date is 1989.
I bought this video for its (very-limited) Marie-Lynn Hammond content,
but it's very engaging and my wife and I have watched it through
several times since buying it. Right up there with "An Evening In
Austin" of Kate Wolf if you can get over the fact they're both gone.
I found a copy at www.bpm.on.ca at a good price. I'd seen it
advertised elsewhere for MUCH more.
Cheers,
Richard
Richard L. Hess rlh...@mindspring.com
Glendale, CA USA http://rlhess.home.mindspring.com/
Web page: folk and church music, photography, broadcast engineering, and more
>Here's another true story, about Mary Ellen Carter, rather than Nancy.
>A number of years ago (10+ ?)the collier Marine Electric floundered and
>sank in a storm off the coast of Virginia. There was an inquiry that
>cast some blame on her owners (the smiling bastards!)and whether the
>maintenance had been kept up--never found out the results of that
>part. At least one of her crew survived (after this many years the
>details have grown fuzzy--in a half-sunk life boat? Clinging to
>wreckage?). In the interviews after his rescue, he said that the only
>thing that kept him going and kept him sane was singing Mary Ellen
>Carter over and over again. A life saving song--I'm sure it's that
>sailor's favorite!
What makes the story even more poignant, or whatever, is that at the
one Stan Rogers concert I was at in my life, here in Cambridge a few
months before the Air Canada plane caught fire, they introduced that
guy or someone who had been in an identical situation to Stan & co
during the concert.
I remember that a campaign going at that time, in which either the guy
&/or some people with him were involved, was aimed at making the wearing
of insulating survival-suits mandatory on ships in stormy seas. People
don't *like* to wear them because they're bulky & very hot when the boat
is *not* sinking, & ship-owners don't like to stock them because they're
very expensive, but the idea was that they should at least be easily
available.