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Dan Dicker

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This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??
I'd love to hear the responses.
Thanks,
Dan

Jansill

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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well I can only speak for myself, but here are some that I never get tired of:
And excuse my liberal definition of Folk!

American Stonhenge- Robin Williamson and his Merry Band
Maid in Bedlam - John Renbourn Group
Man with a Rhyme - Archie Fisher
Water Lily - Priscilla Herdman
Out of the Cut - Martin Carthy
First Album _ Bob Doigan

But these are just what I'm thinking of at this moment..I have tons more
favorites..glad to add more if anyone cares!
Jay Ansill
Jan...@aol.com
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"I remember everything as if it happened years ago" - Robyn Hitchcock

Tom Blumenthal

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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First things first for me include these, a kind of primer:

The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan (even though somewhat dated); Columbia Records, 1962
"Bud And Travis" - by Bud (Dashiell) & Travis (Edmonson), Liberty Records, 1959;
definitely one of the great reasons to own a record player
Blind Joe Death, Volume One - John Fahey, Takoma Records (has been re-issued
on CD as part of "The Complete Blind Joe Death"
Ladies Of The Canyon - Joni Mitchell, 1970
Unhalfbricking - Fairport Convention, 1969 (British folk-rock)
...............................................................................
Honorable mentions on an extremely short list, (geez) include:

"John Prine" - by John Prine, 1970
"Kate And Anna McGarrigle" - by Kate And Anna McGarrigle, 1976
Circle Game - by Tom Rush, 1969
Blonde On Blonde - Bob Dylan (electric folk rock by the legend)
Let Go! - John Fahey
The Latin Album - Bud And Travis, 1965 (acoustic versions of apparently
well-loved (down there) Latin American
folk songs, this is quietly stunning)

One Evening In Chicago - Bob Franke (well, it's out of print and rare, but it
really was on vinyl at one time)
Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits, Volume Two (buy volume two first)

for a taste of British Isles traditional folk, try "Chieftains 2", or
Ossian's "Seal Song" (worth the price, and worth searching out) as
starters, maybe.

There's a lot of people neglected from above, like Kate Wolf, Stan Rogers, etc.

and for a compilation of various artists, suggest Time-Life Records
"Anthology of Folk Music" new CD box set, out of their web-site

Tom Blumenthal
Elkins Park, Pennsylvania


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Phil Geyer

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Mar 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/25/98
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Dan:

Of course, there are many different kinds of folk recordings. Are you interested
mostly in traditional or contemporary or what? Here are a few that I couldn't
part with:

The Weavers - Wasn't That A Time (4 CD set)
Pete Seeger - A Link In The Chain (2 CD set)
Cheryl Wheeler - Driving Home
Dar Williams - The Honesty Room
Bill Staines - The First Million Miles
Nanci Griffith - Other Voices, Other Rooms
Tom Paxton - The Very Best Of
Mary McCaslin - Things We Said Today (The Best Of)
Iris Dement - Infamous Angel
Kate Wolf - Gold In California (2 CD Set)

There are also a lot of good samplers and compilations out there. The Christine
Lavin Martha's Vineyard Retreat compilations are great. "Philo So Far" is
another good one. Red House Records has I think two "House On Fire" compilations
that are good (I have one of them).

You'll probably want to have some Woody Guthrie, but I'm embarrassed to say I
don't have any myself, so I can't make a recommendation. In general, I try to
stick with good labels. Philo/Rounder and related labels are great. For older
stuff, Vanguard, Smithsonian Folkways, etc. are also good. If you're not
familiar with an artist, try to find out what songs would constitute the
"definitive" collection. Believe me, there are a lot of sub-par labels out there
putting out sub-par collections of music. (Actually, this is very true of
classical music as well - I never buy any classical music without consulting the
Penguin Guide). I'll quit babbling, but I hope this helps.

Phil

Hodagg

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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> who wants to name their
>picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??

This is in no particular order, but the definitive top five are:

The Times They Are a Changin........Bob Dylan
John Prine......(his first album)
Willis Alan Ramsey (his only, so far, album)
Blue ......Joni Mitchell
Don Quixote.......Gordon Lightfoot

anyone care to disagree? :>) Rick

John Duchene

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Good As I Been To You....Bob Dylan
World Gone Wrong... Bob Dylan
Bob Dylan....Bob Dylan
South Coast...Ramblin' Jack Elliot
Hot Tuna....Hot Tuna

These are the disks that got me picking guitar again after 20+ years away.

John Duchene
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Charlotte Ashley

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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Oh christ... I'll feel terrible until I've heard every album ever, but
alrioght; here's a quick go...

1) Stack of Steeleye Span (is it fair to choose best of albums? ;)
2) Hitm How Are You Today- Ashley MacIsaac (I don't are HOW many people
bought it... It's lovely...)
3) Leig and Leif- Fairport Convention (classic?)
4) A Maid in Bedlam - John Renbourne Group (classic.)
5) shoot... only one more... erm,
5) Best of the Chieftains or Silly Wizard. can't pick which. :)

honorable mention to New Electric Muse.... best sampler/collection/
introduction to folk rock you can get...

charlotte


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So Fair as Fancy draws.

Charlotte Ashley

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Oh dammit, and Richard Thompson's Rumour and Sigh... damn but I love that
thing...

charlotte (and stan rogers' Northwest Passage...)

Dave or Karen Sleger

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Charlotte Ashley wrote:
>
> Oh dammit, and Richard Thompson's Rumour and Sigh... damn but I love that
> thing...
>


Yes. I agree. Dang, it's a fine rock 'n roll album.

dave

t...@txk.com

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Five? Can't do. Impossible.
Let's say 2x5, okay?

In no particular order:

* After Hours - Battlefield Band
* Don't Panic - Anne Hills
* Other Voices, Other Rooms - Nanci Griffith
* Blue - Joni Mitchell
* Give Yourself to Love - Kate Wolf
* The Ghost of Tom Joad - Bruce Springsteen (this one IS folk!)
* Northwest Passage - Stan Rogers
* True and Bold - Dick Gaughan
* Water From Another Time - John McCutcheon
* True Stories and Other Dreams - Judy Collins

Best of all? These ten are all available to my knowledge.

Richard L. Hess

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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Well, since I haven't heard all the folk albums, I can't tell, but
here are some thoughts of ones I'm listening to a lot lately. This
includes a very broad definition of "Folk" but given the discussions
about Judy Collins I've avoided her more Broadway and art song albums
that I also like a lot...but there is enough of that on "Forever" to
get a good flavor of the many styles of Judy Collins. You want me to
limit this to five???? No way

Available in print:

"Where Have All The Flowers Gone" a 2-CD tribute to Pete Seeger
"Forever" Judy Collins's 2CD anthology
"Fifth Album" Judy Collins
"Who Knows Where The Time Goes" Judy Collins
"Joan Baez/5"
"Diamonds and Rust" Joan Baez
"Ring Them Bells" Joan Baez
"Darkness Into Light" by Priscilla Herdman
(Jay Ansill chose an equally good Priscilla Herdman album)
"Voices" Herdman-Hills-Mangsen
"Never Grow Old" Anne Hills and Cindy Mangsen
"The Best of the Sandia" Tish Hinojosa (a wonderful broad collectio
from several of Tish's albums. Some of the best
material on this was previously unpublished.
"Journeys" Eileen McGann - includes "Too Stupid for Democracy"
"Mortal City" by Dar Williams (someone also chose the equally good
"Honesty Room")
"An Evening in Austin" Kate Wolf


Out Of Print
"Save The Children" produced by Judy Collins with Joan Baez
Mimi Farina, Odetta, Buffie Saint Marie, others
"Maid of Constant Sorrow" Judy Collins

Well, that's more than enough...and these are the artists I listen too
most. I'm not yet sure how Eileen McGann will stand the test of time,
as I only recently got her discography, but so far I'm really
impressed. All the others I've lived with for quite a while. The title
track from "Maid of Constant Sorrow" appears on "Forever" and one cut
from "Save The Children" appears on Joan Baez's boxed set "Rare Live
and Classic."

On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:54:57 -0500, "Dan Dicker"
<dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
>almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .

>This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their


>picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??

Ken Davis

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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Since you are interested in a collection, I will restrict my response to
albums currently in print. This excludes such candidates as Phil
Ochs/Pleasures of the Harbor (actually is/was available on Japanese CD)
and The Compleat Tom Paxton.
I have chosen to exclude anthologies because the whole albums (to me) were
works of art in themselves.

Here they several from which my top 5 would be drawn (in no particular order):

John Prine (first album)
Tom Rush/The Circle Game
James Taylor (first album, not Sweet Baby James)
Joni Mitchell/Clouds
Kate Wolf/Back Roads and/or Poet's Heart and/or Lines on the Paper and/or
Safe at Anchor
Simon and Garfunkel/(any of their joint albums)
Bob Dylan/(and of his pre-electric albums)

In article <6fc0h8$a...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Dan Dicker"
<dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
> This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
> picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??
> I'd love to hear the responses.
> Thanks,
> Dan

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prob...@mint.net

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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Jeez, top five ever recorded?? can't do that. Definitely Weavers and
Pete Seeger. No question. I wouldn't want to choose one album for
either, though.

After that? most have been covered by others, but I'd add Bok, Muir
and Trickett's First 15 Years, Vol I


>
>In article <6fc0h8$a...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, "Dan Dicker"
><dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
>> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
>> This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
>> picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??
>> I'd love to hear the responses.
>> Thanks,
>> Dan

Din...@midcoast.com

Jim Dalin

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I'd go with:

Steel Drivin' Man - Harvey Reid
The New Land - Touchstone
New Leaves on an Old Tree - Caswell Carnihan
Dark Ships in the Forest - John Roberts and Tony Barrand
Between the Breaks - Stan Rogers

Regards,

Jim Dalin

Stewa1

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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Five favorite folk albums. Ooops that doesn't give me an opportunity to get
beyond one artist:

Rare, Live and Classic: Joan Baez
Gone from Danger: Joan Baez


Ring Them Bells: Joan Baez

Speaking of Dreams: Joan Baez


Diamonds and Rust: Joan Baez

Next time make it the top 50 favorites and I can get some other artists in
here. :-)
take care, jim

John Albert

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Lots of folks may mention John Prines first album, but I think one of
the all-time great folk recordings was his SECOND one, called "Diamonds
in the Rough"...

- John


Dave or Karen Sleger

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I don't know about "best folk albums ever" since I've only listened to a
fraction of a fraction of them but these are all quite good...

Peter Case - "The Man With the Blue Postmodern Fragmented
Neo-traditionalist Guitar"
Outback - "Baka"
Urban Folk - "Self Destructive Fools"
Bob Dylan - "Blood on the Tracks"
Vesco d'Orio und Zigeurnernorchester - "Von Budapest Bis Budapest"
(Awesome Gypsy violinist but I'm working on a foggy memory and a poor
understanding of the German language. This was released in late '60s or
'70s on EMI/Odeon. Can anyone help me out on this one? Was it ever
issued on CD?)

dave


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In article <3519F0...@ameritech.net>,
>Top 5 "folk?" albums

nebraska or the ghost of tom joad by bruce springsteen
interiors by rosanne cash
blue or court and spark by joni mitchell
blood on the tracks by bob dylan
living in clip by ani difranco

i know these are pretty mainstream choices, and possibly
on the fringe of the pure definition of folk..but those are my choices
and i'm sticking to them...have a good day... jim

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Thomta

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Here are my choices of late


Shot Through the Heart jennifer Warnes
This Town Dave mallet
Way Up on the Mountain Tim and Mollie O'Brien
Marcus Hummon marcus Hummon
Mrs Pinochis Guitar Cheryl Wheeler

tom taylor


Thomta

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And these would be 6-12
Never Undersstimate the Power of the WOMENFOLK
Judy Collins Concert Judy Collins
Gather Me Melanie
Leonard Cohen Leonard Cohen
Ramblin Boy Tom Paxton
Pioneer Nancy Honeytree
Matters of the Heart Bob Bennett

thomas taylor

Michel Di Torre

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"Dan Dicker" <dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> ŽcrituresĘ:

> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
> This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
> picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??
> I'd love to hear the responses.
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>
Yeah! It's always a funny question keeps your brain working though !
I've been listening to folk music since the sixties; kind of weird from a french
guy from Montreal. But what! you get you're pleasure where you find it.

I couple of names comes to mind:

Dave Van Ronk : most of his stuff available on cd
Paul Siebel : Great songwriter : cd compil. on Philo
Judy Henskhe :Hope the spelling is wright : fantastic voice and I think some of
her early albums on cd
Fred Neil : anything you find, a must
Richard Farina & Mimi Farina : Vanguard cds
Si Kahn. Most underrated songwriter.

Dry City Scat band : Naw...That's a joke. Post a message seeking information
about this folk group from the sixties. Did'nt get any reply. So I presume
they'll remain the great mystery of folk music history

Michel
Montreal

Jansill

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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I can't believe nobody mentioned this:

Odelay by Beck

We all pretty much agree that he's the Best Folk Artist ever...it only
follows!!

Larry Dornhoff

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Mar 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/26/98
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"Dan Dicker" <dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
> This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
> picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??
> I'd love to hear the responses.
>
1. Something by Woody Guthrie, there are several compilations
available.
2. Something by Leadbelly.
3. Something by the Weavers, mabye the recent Wasn't That a Time 4-CD
set.
4. Something by Pete Seeger, either We Shall Overcome or Strangers and
Cousins.
5. Something by Stan Rogers; Home in Halifax if you can only get one.
Then consider Tom Paxton, Eric Bogle, Kate Wolf, John McCutcheon and the
Kingston Trio for a next five.
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1409 W. Green St., Urbana, IL 61801-2975 USA
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john maxwell

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I'll take a stab at this:
1) Lightfoot (Gord's first album)
2) Between the Breaks(Stan Rogers)
3) Planxty (self-titled debut)
4) Scraps of Paper (Eric Bogle)
5) Strings and Things (The Corries)

A pretty personal selection, but I reckon a few of you will agree with
some of them,
John Maxwell

Dave or Karen Sleger

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john doe wrote:
>
> >> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
> >> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
>
> The jump from classical to folk may have a few bridges which you might
> want to consider, in order to ease the transition.
>
> While there are more than a few posters in this group that do not
> consider bluegrass a form of folk, there are quite a few classically
> trained musicians that perform a type of music marketed as bluegrass.
> This is unfortunate, because the talents exhibited by these artists
> can not easily be "pigeonholed" to any single section of the music
> store. Some albums by these artists are undeniably bluegrass, some
> definitely folk, some strongly jazz, and a few are definitely
> classical. Alone, or with one another, most of the albums by these
> artists are largely instrumentals which blend all forms of music.
>
> To name a few:
>
> Bela Fleck: Banjo (some bluegrass; with the Flecktones, largely jazz;
> his recent "Uncommon Ritual" album is classical; he has also recently
> recorded a couple of albums which are more "Eastern/Indian")
>
> David Grisman: Mandolin (about half and half bluegrass and jazz,
> although his "Home is Where the Heart is" album is typically old-tyme
> folk/bluegrass)
>
> Tony Rice: Guitar, probably one of the most talented guitar players
> you will ever experience. (1/3 folk, 1/3 jazz, 1/3 bluegrass)
>
> Fiddle: Mark O'Connor (his recent "Appalachian Waltz", with Yo-Yo Ma,
> and Edgar Meyer is classical)
>
> Dobro: Jerry Douglas
>
> Daryl Anger: Fiddle (some of his earlier work was marketed in New Age
> music)
>

...and

John Bullard: banjo (highly regarded-bluegrass banjo player who released
"The Classical Banjo" in '95 featuring works by Bach, Handel, Scarlatti,
et.al)

ken_...@hotmail.com

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My favorites of what's in print (the list could change tomorrow):

The Weavers: Greatest Hits (Vanguard twofer) Bob Dylan: Freewheelin' (single
album) or Biograph (triple) Judy Collins: Recollections (highlights from her
first 4 albums) Bob Gibson: Joy, Joy! -- The Young and Wonderful Bob Gibson
(Riverside) The Ian Campbell Folk Group: This Is... / Across the Hills
(Transatlantic / Essential twofer)

honorable mention (out of print):
Pete Seeger -- Rainbow Race (Columbia)
The Journeymen -- Collectors Series (Capitol)

dbett...@aol.com

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In article <6fc0h8$a...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
"Dan Dicker" <dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??
> I'd love to hear the responses.

> Thanks,
> Dan
>
>> My all time favorite Tom Rush : New Year Live At Symphony Hall

Tom Blumenthal

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You know, on this country note, maybe one of us might also have recommended
a good Bill Monroe collection (the father of bluegrass for the uninitiated),
40 Greatest Hits by Hank Williams, bridging the move of Euro-southern music
from folk into modern Country & Western, and reaching back further, maybe
something from the Original Carter Family, who recorded for one of the
Victor
labels (RCA). And looking over, towards balance, to African-American
contributions to folk heritage, someone might have named Leadbelly's Last
Sessions, for example; but maybe any of these are not for whatever reason
among the first 5 albums people circulate most on their stereos.

Tom

Bodlean

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>The jump from classical to folk may have a few bridges which you might
>want to consider, in order to ease the transition.

Yeah..because most classical music enthusiasts might not be prepared for the
shocking nature of so much of the music listed here: The jarring and dissonant
harmonies, the extremes in dynamics, the harsh vocal styling etc...

guve us a break...anybody who has been collecting Classical CDs for 20 years is
a grownup and can face the "transition" without needing to have their hand
held.

That being said...here are some of my essential Folk CDs:

Kevin Burke and Micheal O'Dhomniall - Promenade
Sandy Denny - Who Knows where the Time goes (Boxed set)
Incredible String Band - Hangman's Beautiful Daughter
Maddy Prior - Year
The first Fiddle Fever album


Charlotte Ashley

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Dave or Karen Sleger (daven...@ameritech.net) writes:
> Charlotte Ashley wrote:
>>
>> Oh dammit, and Richard Thompson's Rumour and Sigh... damn but I love that
>> thing...
>
>
> Yes. I agree. Dang, it's a fine rock 'n roll album.
>

Rock and roll with folk influences, dammit. ;)

charlotte (afeared that her non f*lk roots might be showing...)

rl...@tcnet.net

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I'd have to reach back a ways and add to my list:

Jean Ritchie and Doc Watson at Folk City

and for the past year of so I find I can't quit playing:

Shady Grove, by Jerry Garcia and Dave Grisman.

Rick

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On 26 Mar 1998 02:49:08 GMT, hod...@aol.com (Hodagg) wrote:

Just about any five Kingston Trio albums. Well, maybe with the
exception of Sunnyside and Somethin' Else.
After that, take your pick:
Brothers Four
Limeliters
Ian and Sylvia
Highwaymen
Journeymen
Weavers
et al.

Peace!
Rick in CT

Oo---::: O--^--:: Oo--::

There is not present or future - only the past,
happening over and over again - now.

Richard L. Hess

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> After that? most have been covered by others, but I'd add Bok, Muir
>and Trickett's First 15 Years, Vol I

I've been trying to buy both volumes of these (I decided I really
liked Gordon Bok on "You'll Never Grow Old" by Anne Hills and Cindy
Mangsen) and they're not available, sadly.

Richard

TruPrice

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Seems to me most of the albums mentioned recently were not folk music.
Anyway, switching to a non-judgemental mode, here are my all-time personal
favorites.

Martin, Bogan & Armstrong - That Old Gang of Mine
The Woody Guthrie album that had Cisco Houston on it.
Highwoods String Band - Dance All Night
Holy Modal Rounders 1st two albums (which sound terribly dated today)

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Children's Literature & Picture Books


MCartsonis

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There are lots of contenders, but only one big enough to take up all five
slots:

Arlo Guthrie--Hobo's Lullaby

Ry Cooder's "Into The Purple Valley" is up there, too...

Jonathan Dresner

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In article <351AAE...@math.uiuc.edu>,
Larry Dornhoff <dorn...@math.uiuc.edu> wrote:

>"Dan Dicker" <dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
>> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
>> This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
>> picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??

>> I'd love to hear the responses.
>>
>1. Something by Woody Guthrie, there are several compilations
>available.
>2. Something by Leadbelly.
>3. Something by the Weavers, mabye the recent Wasn't That a Time 4-CD
>set.
>4. Something by Pete Seeger, either We Shall Overcome or Strangers and
>Cousins.
>5. Something by Stan Rogers; Home in Halifax if you can only get one.
>Then consider Tom Paxton, Eric Bogle, Kate Wolf, John McCutcheon and the
>Kingston Trio for a next five.

I agree almost entirely with these selections, but I'd replace
Leadbelly (whose songs are pretty well represented by Seeger and the
Weavers) with Odetta or Sweet Honey in the Rock, and add Joan Baez Vol 1
and 2 to the "next five" list.

Jonathan

Jonathan Dresner

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In article <351b2dbb...@news.mindspring.com>,

Funny, there were plenty of copies on the table at their concert
last weekend. There are still copies out there.

Jonathan


prob...@mint.net

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Folk Legacy has a website: www.folklegacy.com

I'm sure they'll sell you these recordings still, if your local store
won't (and why won't it?)

dt


On Fri, 27 Mar 1998 04:41:43 GMT, rlh...@mindspring.com (Richard L.
Hess) wrote:

>
>> After that? most have been covered by others, but I'd add Bok, Muir
>>and Trickett's First 15 Years, Vol I
>
>I've been trying to buy both volumes of these (I decided I really
>liked Gordon Bok on "You'll Never Grow Old" by Anne Hills and Cindy
>Mangsen) and they're not available, sadly.
>

>Richard

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John Fereira

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In article <351c9541...@news.gatech.edu>, nob...@nowhere.com (john doe) wrote:
>>> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
>>> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
>
>The jump from classical to folk may have a few bridges which you might
>want to consider, in order to ease the transition.
>
>While there are more than a few posters in this group that do not
>consider bluegrass a form of folk, there are quite a few classically
>trained musicians that perform a type of music marketed as bluegrass.
>This is unfortunate, because the talents exhibited by these artists
>can not easily be "pigeonholed" to any single section of the music
>store. Some albums by these artists are undeniably bluegrass, some
>definitely folk, some strongly jazz, and a few are definitely
>classical. Alone, or with one another, most of the albums by these
>artists are largely instrumentals which blend all forms of music.
>
>To name a few:
>
>Bela Fleck: Banjo (some bluegrass; with the Flecktones, largely jazz;
>his recent "Uncommon Ritual" album is classical; he has also recently
>recorded a couple of albums which are more "Eastern/Indian")

Another bango player that I've rarely seen mentioned here but should
is Alison Brown. Her "Look Left" album as well as the group effort
titled "Alison Brown Quartet" are both brilliant. The first spans multiple
genres while the latter is primarily a fusion of bluegrass and jazz.

>David Grisman: Mandolin (about half and half bluegrass and jazz,
>although his "Home is Where the Heart is" album is typically old-tyme
>folk/bluegrass)

Grisman plays as a guest artist on several of my old roommates
albums. His name is Joe Weed and he also merges genres well.
His first couple of albums blended elements of old time country/folk,
bluegrass and newage. He also has an album called "The Vultures"
when is a compilation of old "surf music" played on traditional
bluegrass instruments.


>Daryl Anger: Fiddle (some of his earlier work was marketed in New Age
>music)

Daryl was also one of the members of a band that Joe Weed put together
for a couple of live performances (I ran the sound system for one of them).
One of the other members was David Balkrishnan, who along with Daryl
form much of the Turtle Island String Quartet. The band that Joe put
together was called "SuperStrings". It consisted of three violins, a viola
and a jazz rhythm section. The played a bunch of jazz standards arranged
for strings. They were amazing.

John Fereira
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Richard L. Hess wrote:
>
> > After that? most have been covered by others, but I'd add Bok, Muir
> >and Trickett's First 15 Years, Vol I
>
> I've been trying to buy both volumes of these (I decided I really
> liked Gordon Bok on "You'll Never Grow Old" by Anne Hills and Cindy
> Mangsen) and they're not available, sadly.
>
> Richard
Folk Legacy has a toll free number:800 836-5661. I ordered these two
cd's from them a couple of nights ago,
John

Ken Josenhans

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Charlotte Ashley (bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

) > Charlotte Ashley wrote:
) >>
) >> Oh dammit, and Richard Thompson's Rumour and Sigh... damn but I love that
) >> thing...
) >

> Rock and roll with folk influences, dammit. ;)

Other than "1952 Vincent Black Lightning." where?
RUMOR AND SIGH has long struck me as RT's best flat-out rock album.

-- Ken Josenhans
k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu

Ken Josenhans

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Richard L. Hess (rlh...@mindspring.com) wrote:

> I've been trying to buy both volumes of these (I decided I really
> liked Gordon Bok on "You'll Never Grow Old" by Anne Hills and Cindy
> Mangsen) and they're not available, sadly.

Heh. A record store should rarely be considered authoritative on what
is available, unless you have a solid personal relationship with the
person giving you the information. :) I suspect that for most
record stores, "It's not available" means (1) we can't order it from
our miserable sources, or (2) we'd rather you spent your $15 on
something we have in stock.

I would suggest that the best web source for USA folk music is now
Elderly Instruments at www.elderly.com. They are putting a lot of
energy into keeping their web catalog up to date. One of the
links I love is "new arrival discs in the last 15 days."

Elderly shows both of the Bok/Muir/Trickett "15 Years" CDs in their
catalog for $13.25 each.

I have no connection with Elderly other than being a happy customer
for over 20 years.

-- Ken Josenhans, who clings to his Bok Muir Trickett vinyl
k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu

Dave or Karen Sleger

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and as influential as he continues to be Thompsom really hasn't recorded
folk albums since his early records with Linda. And most of those '70's
albums were an intelligent combination of pop, rock and folk. "Hokey
Pokey," "Pour Down Like Silver" and "I Want to See the Bright Lights
Tonight" as well as his solo debut "Henry the Human Fly" were brilliant
albums that undeniably borrowed from the English folk tradition but
Thompson's innovative rock guitar techniques were anything but folk.
Wasn't part of the reason he left FC due to their increasing preference
toward traditional music? "Small Town Romance" was acoustic but is it
folk music? Here we go again.

dave

Charlotte Ashley

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Ken Josenhans (k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu) writes:
> Charlotte Ashley (bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
>
> ) > Charlotte Ashley wrote:
> ) >>
> ) >> Oh dammit, and Richard Thompson's Rumour and Sigh... damn but I love that
> ) >> thing...
>

>> Rock and roll with folk influences, dammit. ;)
>
> Other than "1952 Vincent Black Lightning." where?
> RUMOR AND SIGH has long struck me as RT's best flat-out rock album.

Well, vincent black was flat out brilliance...

"Don't Sit On My Jimmy Shines" and "Mystery Wind" have their roots in
folk-ish things..."God Loves A Drunk" is something... I'm not sure if it's
folkish, rockish or just balladish...

Alright, most of it is fairly rock and roll... though only a folk singer
could come up with such great lyrics. :)

charlotte

Richard L. Hess

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Thanks ALL for the suggestions.

Last night after posting that, I emailed Elderly Instruments as I had
heard good things about them and I also wanted the Rounder Divine
Divas recording for it's Susana Baca cut--it's not on any of her other
albums and it was one of the best songs from the Global Divas Tour.

Anyway I found it there, but neither Music Blvd NOR CDNow were able to
get the two Bok/Muir/Trickett compilation volumes nor any Diane Taraz.
Ooops, I forgot to ask Elderly about Taraz.

Not only was Elderly Instruments very nice in email, they responded
very positively to my comments about some missing albums on their web
site (like the Judy Collins "Forever" anthology).

If the CD's show up (and I don't have any fears) they will go to the
top of my list! They even had Eileen McGann albums that I bought from
Canada at much higher prices! I should have checked them out sooner.

Thanks again.

Cheers!

Richard

dbett...@aol.com

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In article <6fc0h8$a...@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
"Dan Dicker" <dbdi...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>5 folk albums ever recorded??
> I'd love to hear the responses.
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
What a great subject. I have not seen Mississippi John Hurt mentioned, on
the memorial anthology 2 disc set there is a 31 min. interview with Pete
Seeger that makes great greater.

Stephen Suffet

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Greetings:

There's no accounting for taste.

But having said that, and having avoided that debate so long, let
me add my own personal nominees:

Pete Seeger: "Darling Corey"

Cisco Houston: "900 Miles and Other Railroad Songs"

Cisco Houston: "Cisco Sings"

All were recorded for Moses Asch's Folkways label in the 1950s.

Regards,
Steve

ESHRAGER

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This is subject to change in the next 15 minutes, but off the top of my head -
Between the Breaks - Stan Rogers
Sweet Child - Pentangle
The First David Bromberg record
Blue - Joni Micthell
12 Songs - Randy Newman
Faro Annie - John Renbourn
Any Best of Steve Goodman
Best Of Mississippi John Hurt
I'M a Stranger Too! Chris Smither
The second John Prine record

ols...@erols.com

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Folkways FA 2401, 'The Wandering Folk Song', is another one by a great
folksinger, Sam Hinton. Sadly it's the only recording of his I ever got,
and I only got to hear him live once. His songs were all real folksongs,
too.

Bruce Olson

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Ok it's starting to look like ya might need more than five albums to cover
the genre.

John V. Kutys

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Rumor & Sigh is one of my all time favorites, be it folk or rock.

He was running out of road, he was running out of breath ......
John

k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu (Ken Josenhans) wrote:

>Charlotte Ashley (bi...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:

>) > Charlotte Ashley wrote:
>) >>
>) >> Oh dammit, and Richard Thompson's Rumour and Sigh... damn but I love that
>) >> thing...

>) >

>> Rock and roll with folk influences, dammit. ;)

>Other than "1952 Vincent Black Lightning." where?
>RUMOR AND SIGH has long struck me as RT's best flat-out rock album.

> -- Ken Josenhans
> k...@netsun.cl.msu.edu

John V. Kutys

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I didn't see John Stewart's name here .... I would have mentioned
California Bloodlines.

JesiAna

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I don't claim to be an expert, but I may as well put in my fifty cents'
worth...

First, I think it is important to realize (and no, I do NOT want to start an
argument on definitions!) that we all define folk music a little differently,
and that taste and preference play a big part in this. However, I would agree
that anyone listening to folk music ought to have at least ONE album by Pete
Seeger. I'm partial to his complete Carnegie Hall recording, because it has so
many good selections on it, but I also like his most recent, "Pete."

My personal favorites for traditional folk type music would also include:

Cisco Houston
Utah Phillips (I like his "I've Got to Know)
The Weavers
Sam Hinton (not that easy to find unless you write to Sam himself, but worth
the effort)
Ian and Sylvia, esp. their older recordings, which include a great deal of
traditional British and Canadian folksongs.
Ian Tyson (of Ian and Sylvia) if you like western (that is, cowboy not
"country" music)
Doc Watson, just an awesome guitarist

For more contemporary "broadside" type (topical) stuff, or modern folkstyle
music, I like:

Tom Paxton (the best of the "short shelf life song" writers)
Eric Bogle
Holly Near
Ronnie Gilbert (formerly of the Weavers)
Tony Rice (another awesome guitarist)

I love Gordon Lightfoot, but hesitate to call him a folksinger; he is sort of
in a class by himself, really. The same goes for Judy Collins, a great singer
who began as a folksinger but really doesn't fit the definition any longer.

I know, this is many more than five artists, let alone "best albums." They are
just a few suggestions that you may wish to explore.

Jesiana


bux

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Dan Dicker wrote:
>
> This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
> almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
> This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
> picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??

> I'd love to hear the responses.
> Thanks,
> Dan

A totally impossible task. It really depends on the day of the week, the
weather, the political climate, the love life, the tasks at hand, etc.

I know the great ones, the Dylans, the Seegers, the Woody Guthries, the
Leadbellys, the Joan Baezs etc., will be nominated. Great! But here are
a few more we'll have to consider:

Arlo Guthrie: Amigo (or anything, really)
Townes Van Zandt: (anything, though I prefer the live)
Rambling Jack Elliot: South Coast, Kerouacs Last Dream
Dave Von Ronk: anything
Harry Chapin: Live Stories

Oh, I give up. In some ways, I've got to envy you. You've got so much
great exploring to do!

Kirsten Chevalier

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Dan Dicker (dbdi...@worldnet.att.net) wrote:
: This is my first post here, but I have been collecting classical music
: almost exclusively for 20 years, and would like to begin a folk collection .
: This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
: picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??

Shawn Colvin, Steady On (possibly the best album ever recorded, in any genre)
Ani DiFranco, Imperfectly
Patty Larkin, Angels Running
Mary Chapin Carpenter, Stones in the Road
Indigo Girls, Rites of Passage

Others that come close:
Peter, Paul and Mary, anything recorded before their reunion
Barenaked Ladies, Gordon (not exactly folk)
Ferron, Phantom Center or Driver
Bill Morrissey, Standing Eight or Inside
The Story, Grace in Gravity
Dar Williams, Mortal City


--
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Peter Johansson

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Folk or sometimes Folkrock:

1. Dylan/The Band: Basement tapes
2. Bob Dylan: Freewheelin' Dylan
3. Steve Earle: Train a' comin'
4. Springsteen: Nebraska
5. Gillian Welch: Revival
6. Neil Young: After the goldrush
7. Fairport convention: Unhalfbricking
8. James Taylor: Sweet baby James
9. Big Bill Broonzy: Good time tonight
10.The Gourds: Dem's good beeble
11.Carter family: Country music hall...
12.Ry Cooder: Paris, Texas
13.Nick Cave: Boatmans call
14.Nashville bluegrass band: Waitin' for the hard times...
15.Buffalo springfield again
16.Leonard Cohen: Songs from a room
17.Paul Simon: Still crazy after all these years
18.Randy Newman: Good old boys
19.Nick Drake: Bryter Lyter
20.Doc Watson: The Essential

/Peter

Robert Minchin

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A selection from CD's I've got (all bought in the last 4 years about)

Original Dubliners / The Dubliners / EMI - 4 albums on 2 discs from the
late 60's.
Something worth singing about / The Ian Campbell Folk Group / Wooded Hill
Recordings (I think this is the title - I've not got the box with me
and it's not on the CD)
Folk on 2 - Ewan MacColl / Ewan MacColl and others / Cooking Vinyl - from
BBC archives of MacColl's gold medal from the folk music society and
his 70'th birthday.
Bede Weeps / Jez Lowe and the Bad Pennies / Fellside Recordings - very good
modern folk from near Newcastle in NE England.
Further Along / The Dubliners / Baycourt Records - Album from 1996.

I've also got collections from some American artists, notably 'A Link in
the Chain' (Pete Seeger), 'Best of Arlo Guthrie' and 'Woody Guthrie - Hero
of American Folk Blues'.

Robert


Gil Gunderson

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I vote Book of the Month Club Vanguard Folk Songs and Minstrelsy, Boxed Set
circa 1964

rl...@tcnet.net wrote:

> I'd have to reach back a ways and add to my list:
>
> Jean Ritchie and Doc Watson at Folk City
>
> and for the past year of so I find I can't quit playing:
>
> Shady Grove, by Jerry Garcia and Dave Grisman.

William Lingo

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My 5 favorites are:
Mississippi John Hurt -1928 sessions
Doc Watson (the 1964 Vanguard album)
Rev. Gary Davis - Harlem street singer
Will the circle be unbroken _NGDB
Leo Kottke _ 6&12 string guitar

Leo may be stretching the traditional definition of folk music,but it's
still one of my favorites

Twiddle

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> Leo Kottke _ 6&12 string guitar
>
> Leo may be stretching the traditional definition of folk music,but it's
> still one of my favorites

Sort of a newbie to the group, so ignore if this has been beaten to
death...

I've followed a few of the recent threads about "definitions" of folk
music, and was wondering... does everyone consider instrumental music as
eligable for "folk" status?

No flames, please. Just curious to see the lines of discussion!

Regards,
Craig

Jack Cullen

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===================================================
I never try to get involved in defining "folk music" -- when one tries
to compose a definition, the mental effort tends to impede one's ability
to enjoy the music. I figure if I can make the music at home, using
stuff I find around the house (combs & tissue paper, spoons, pots, pans,
harmonicas, guitars, pipe organs, etc., ;-)), then it's close enough for
folk.
As far as considering instrumentals folk music...; why not? I've never
even thought of there being a distinction between vocal and instrumental
for purposes of classification
--
Jack Cullen
West Chatham, Cape Cod, Massachusetts, USA

Please Reply-To: JJoeJack "at" aol "dot" com

Steve Howard

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Jack Cullen wrote:

> ===================================================
> I never try to get involved in defining "folk music" -- when one tries
> to compose a definition, the mental effort tends to impede one's ability
> to enjoy the music. I figure if I can make the music at home, using
> stuff I find around the house (combs & tissue paper, spoons, pots, pans,
> harmonicas, guitars, pipe organs, etc., ;-)), then it's close enough for
> folk.
> As far as considering instrumentals folk music...; why not? I've never
> even thought of there being a distinction between vocal and instrumental
> for purposes of classification
> --
> Jack Cullen
> West Chatham, Cape Cod, Massachusetts, USA
>
> Please Reply-To: JJoeJack "at" aol "dot" com

Pete Seeger [If there is a folk section, that's where you find his music]
said it best, "If it's made by folks, it must be folk music." I thought I had
made it up when I stopped believing in any categories of music. I was reading
an article about conjorntos, and it said it was Mexician-new wave-polka-sort
of. It was the sort of that lost me, I don't know anyone who breaks down their
music by category anyway so I said it's all folk music if it's made by folks.
Pete just may have said it before I was born that's all. Not my fault I heard
his story after mine.


Steve Yetter

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Hi All,
Mind if I crash the party with an old one?
Anybody remember, "A Folksinger's Choice," Theodore Bikel?
It was an early sixties album with some great stuff on it:
Springhill Mining Disaster 1941
Dance to Your Daddy
Come Away Melinda
and lots of others I can't begin to remember.
Oh yes:
It Was a Very Good Year (Way before Ol' Blue eyes did it. BTW, this was written
by a traveling minstrel, "Seraphin" Mork, who lived in his car on the steets of NYC
in the 50's & '60's, I guess times have changed. I think Bikel did another of
Seraphin's compositions on that album too, circa 1963?)
Welp, I guess I'm carbon dated now! Wish I could remember more.
Regards,
Steve Yetter

AlpineInc

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>: This is an interesting question regardless, but, who wants to name their
>: picks for the top 5 folk albums ever recorded??

My folkie gems, IN particular order!

Nick Drake: Five Leaves Left, Bryter Layter - Simply exquisite music; instant
transport to a beautiful place.
Tim Buckley: Blue Afternoon - Captures the mood of its title like no other
music I've heard.
Joni Mitchell: Clouds, Ladies Of The Canyon - A roller coaster of both great
joy and deep dark areas of the soul.
Van Morrison: Veedon Fleece - The Irish gentry at his most tender.
Tom Rush: Circle Game - Wintry melancholy.
Tim Hardin's Greatest Hits - A man's soul laid bare.
Bob Dylan: Bringing It All Back Home - The poetic genius gives straight folk
one last ride before really plugging in.

Tom C


PAULSBANJO

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What no mention of "The Folkways Anthology" now on CD (I believe) by
the library of Congress
Paul

MIKE REGENSTREIF

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"The Anthology of American Folk Music," compiled by Harry Smith was
originally released by Folkways in 1952. The CD reissue is on Smithsonian
Folkways and was released in 1997.

MR


yl...@sullivan.suny.edu

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In article <199804112334...@ladder01.news.aol.com>,

pauls...@aol.com (PAULSBANJO) wrote:
>
> What no mention of "The Folkways Anthology" now on CD (I believe)
by
> the library of Congress
> Paul
>
I think that mention needs to be made of some of the greatest hit albums of
the fifties and sixties when the folk movement was in high gear. Albums that
come to mind here are: The Weavers at Carnegie Hall Vol I.
The Kingston Trio at the Hungry i
The Limelighters
The Chad Mitchell Trio
Peter Paul and Mary
Pete Seeger: We Shall Overcome

-just to mention a few!

Warren Littlefield

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