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Herve Moisan - stagiaire CICB

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Aug 14, 1992, 4:23:51 AM8/14/92
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can somebody say to me what groups are the best irish groups (or
scottish)?

i want to buy some tapes and i have no idea which one are the best ...
(CLANNAD , THE CHIEFTAINS ?)

rlwil...@gallua.gallaudet.edu

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I'll cast my vote for the Chieftains, especially their first album with
James Galway.

rlwiliams@gallua

Josh Smith

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Early Clannad is more traditional, and is very good imho. Later Clannad
(Magical Ring and beyond) is more modern, and is also very good. Some
label their later work with the hated moniker "pop sellout", but I seem to
like albums that other people describe as pop sellouts, so what do I know.
Definitely worth looking into, but I'd suggest that you try to borrow an
album or two from someone before taking the plunge and buying anything.

Enya is also good; she's much more new agey and much less traditional Irish.
Very good stuff, though.

Silly Wizard is an excellent Scottish band. Live Wizardry (a CD collection
of their Golden, Golden and Live in America albums) has most of their really
good songs, but other albums are worth checking out as well.

I have very limited exposure to the Chieftains, only heard a few tracks once
or twice. I remember them as sounding ok, but they didn't make me want to
run out and buy lots of albums. I didn't listen very carefully, though.

Main advice: borrow and listen before you buy. Tastes vary a lot in this realm.
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Craig Cockburn

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In article <1992Aug14.1...@muddcs.claremont.edu>, iri...@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith) writes...

>In a prior article, Herve Moisan (moi...@cicb.fr) writes:
>> can somebody say to me what groups are the best irish groups (or
>> scottish)?
>>
>> i want to buy some tapes and i have no idea which one are the best ...
>> (CLANNAD , THE CHIEFTAINS ?)
>
Try getting "sidewaulk", "crosswinds" or "delerium" by the Scottish band
Capercaillie - I expect you will like them

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Amy Elizabeth Ksir

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Aug 14, 1992, 12:00:34 PM8/14/92
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I'll put in my vote for Capercaillie. I just got a 'phonorecord' :) of
_Sidewaulk_ and it's really terrific.

Amy (aek...@owlnet.rice.edu)

John Fiskio-Lasseter

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Aug 17, 1992, 11:45:26 AM8/17/92
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Kind of a subjective answer, though, eh? Still it's a natural question to
ask. Since we just finished a rather fun thread on the essential
Irish/Scots tunes, how about a new thread on the essential Irish/Scots
*RECORDINGS*? Actually, why limit it to Ireland and Scotland? How about
Wales, Brittany, Isle of Man, Shetland, Cape Breton, etc. -- any of the
places that have a distinctly Celtic tradition? I know it's been done
before, but it hasn't been done for awhile.

Anyway, my votes for the albums everyone should own (In no particular
order):

The Chieftans -- The Chieftans 7, Celtic Wedding
The Tannahill Weavers -- anything they've ever recorded
Ar Log -- same as above
Ossian -- Ossian, St. Kilda Wedding, Dove Across the Water
Planxty -- Cold Blow and the Rainy Night
The Bothy Band -- anything they've recorded, but especially
After Hours: Live in Paris
The Boys of the Lough -- Second Album
Dick Gaughan -- Handful of Earth, Live in Edinburgh
Finbar Furey -- The Irish Pipes of Finbar Furey
Ma/ire Ni/ Chathasaigh -- The New-Strung Harp

Okay, there're SOME of the recordings that are my personal favorites.
Anyone else care to add?

--John

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David Brightbill

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Aug 17, 1992, 11:58:51 PM8/17/92
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Check out almost anything by the Boys of the Lough.


David E. Scheim

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Several people at Augusta (WV) Irish week told me that all the ALTAN albums
were great. I bought one and found every cut superb. They have a
traditional sound and repertoire. The first Patrick Street album is also
good, as are several of the DeDanann albums (especially with Mary Black).
Also the Scottish group Silly Wizard has some great stuff. For a more
modern sound based in traditional Irish music, some of Dougie MacLean's
songs are great, especially Caledonia. There's a radio program "Thistle and
Shamrock" on many public radio stations that features the music of the best
celtic groups and sends out a play list for a minimal charge. -- David
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Peter David Roberts

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Aug 18, 1992, 12:35:28 PM8/18/92
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In article <1992Aug17.1...@yang.earlham.edu> jo...@yang.earlham.edu (John Fiskio-Lasseter) writes:
Lots deleted including album list

>
>Okay, there're SOME of the recordings that are my personal favorites.
>Anyone else care to add?
>
>--John

Ok I'll bite but on the Celtic basis as much as the folk

The Alarm: Newid (especialy A New South Wales) essentialy a rock band their
last two albums are also available in Welsh and draw on Welsh traditions.

Capercalie: any album realy but Sidewauk gets the edge over the more recent
Delirium. Both have a good mix of pure traditional styled songs and the modern
sung in both Gaelic and English.

Runrig: All the albums have their strong points but for me Recovery and The
Cutter and The Clan stand out. The former for its storytelling and its blend of
old and new cultures, the latter for its powerful lyrical messages

Runrig:- Flower of the West (12" single) combining the title track with
Ravenscraig( one of the best political songs of the 1980's) and an incredible
version of Chi m'in Geamaigh with Karen Mattherson of Cappercalie made this
the best release of 1991 for me

Well thats some more input
Comments?
Pete

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Terry Bermes

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Aug 18, 1992, 2:01:53 PM8/18/92
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From article <1992Aug14....@cicb.fr>, by moi...@cicb.fr (Herve Moisan - stagiaire CICB):


My recommendations are the Bothy Band and Planxty (both defunct),
DeDannan, anything with Kevin Burke, Jackie Daly, Micheal O'Dohmnail,
Triona Ni'Dohmnail, or Donal Lunny, Silly Wizard, Touchstone (now defunct
but a great band nonetheless), Arcady....

terry

Conrad Leviston

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Aug 19, 1992, 8:09:12 AM8/19/92
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Other than Clannad, The Cheiftans etc., I would highly recommend
Allen Stivell. He is a Breton artist who mixes traditional and modern
instruments. Well worth a listen, even if he does sing in French (horrid
language that).

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Magnus Ring

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Aug 19, 1992, 10:45:20 AM8/19/92
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In article <1992Aug19.1...@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
mong...@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston) writes:
> Other than Clannad, The Cheiftans etc., I would highly recommend
> Allen Stivell. He is a Breton artist who mixes traditional and modern
> instruments. Well worth a listen, even if he does sing in French (horrid
> language that).
>
> --

Speaking of French 'Celtic' music. I would strongly recommend another
Breton band called Tri Yann. Anyone else out there who listen to them?

/Magnus Ring

j...@alice.att.com

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Aug 19, 1992, 2:22:48 PM8/19/92
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> Other than Clannad, The Cheiftans etc., I would highly recommend
>Allen Stivell. He is a Breton artist who mixes traditional and modern
>instruments. Well worth a listen, even if he does sing in French (horrid
>language that).

And, in a different vein, are the Corries, Silly Wizard, Boiled in Lead,
and the Scot Celts.

We're not all Irish, you know, just part Irish. :-)
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John Fiskio-Lasseter

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Aug 20, 1992, 12:13:55 AM8/20/92
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In article <1992Aug19.1...@solix.udac.uu.se>, mag...@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring) writes:

> Speaking of French 'Celtic' music. I would strongly recommend another
> Breton band called Tri Yann. Anyone else out there who listen to them?

Yeah, good stuff. Sort of like Capercaillie for Breton music -- about 80%
traditional with a 20% contemporary twist. Is it possible to get any of
their records in the US? The only copies of their stuff I've ever seen
were brought back to me by a friend who was in France.

Speaking of Breton groups, their's another really good band called Kornog
who has some releases in the US on GreenLinnet.

-- John

Jamie Gairns

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Aug 20, 1992, 9:02:29 AM8/20/92
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> Other than Clannad, The Cheiftans etc., I would highly recommend
>Allen Stivell. He is a Breton artist who mixes traditional and modern
>instruments. Well worth a listen, even if he does sing in French (horrid
>language that).
>

Well, I was in Ireland briefly last October and I came across a
group called 'Oisin' ... traditional, very simple and heart
rending. My travelling partner became enamoured with a band called
The Saw Doctors ... not my cup of Irish Breakfast Tea, but ...

Jamie Gairns gai...@ccrs.emr.ca

James Moore

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jo...@yang.earlham.edu (John Fiskio-Lasseter) writes:

>Speaking of Breton groups, their's another really good band called Kornog
>who has some releases in the US on GreenLinnet.

My absolute favourite Breton group is called Gwalarn. They remind me
a little bit of a Welsh group called Plethyn, with a lot of tight
vocal harmony work. I've only been able to find two of their
recordings:

A-hed An Amzer (Distributed by Keltia Musique, 1 Place au
Beurre, 29000 Kemper phone 98 95 45 82)

Selaouit, koz ha yaouank (Distributed by Arion, but there's no
address or phone number of the record. Date is 1983.)

I saw a copy of A-hed An Amzer in Down Home Music in El Cerito (SF bay
area) a few weeks ago, so it should be available relatively easily.

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Tara McFarlane

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Aug 21, 1992, 4:59:58 AM8/21/92
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ok, i'm not an expert on celtic music, so i was wondering why no one has mentioned the pogues. i think 'rum, sodomy and the lash' is wonderful album
regardless of the genre. i find i don't like later pogues albums because they
don't sound as traditional (to my inexperienced ears), but perhaps to someone
with a greater exposure to celtic music the pogues just don't sound traditional/celtic enough for their liking period.

Damian M. Lyons

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In article <1992Aug20....@emr1.emr.ca> jga...@emr1.emr.ca (Jamie Gairns) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.1...@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> mong...@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Conrad Leviston) writes:
>>
>> Other than Clannad, The Cheiftans etc., I would highly recommend
>>Allen Stivell. He is a Breton artist who mixes traditional and modern
>>instruments. Well worth a listen, even if he does sing in French (horrid
>>language that).
>>

Has anyone added Pierre BenSusan? Excellent sounding guitar work,
mixture of celtic pieces and celtic influenced pieces. I especially
like the Pres de Paris album. Solilai is good also, but less
traditional.

How about the group Pentangle or am I dating myself?

BenSusan was the model for the cover of R. McAvoy's `Damiano' trilogy,
you can probably guess why I know this,

Damian.


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Scott Coleman

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Aug 21, 1992, 11:17:13 PM8/21/92
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How come nobody has mentioned the Clancy Brothers?

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Laurie Fleming

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On all the albums I have by Alain Stivell, he sings in Breton and
other Celtic languages. He tends to eschew French, championing rather
his kin in the other Celtic regions.

Terry Bermes

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From article <tmcfarla....@sfu.ca>, by tmcf...@fraser.sfu.ca (Tara McFarlane):


While I love the "more pure" celtic music, the Pogues is one of
my favorite bands with "RuM Sodomy and the Lash" being my favorite
Pogues album. Shane McGowan sure knew how to write some great songs.

terry

David Dalton

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Aug 25, 1992, 5:42:26 PM8/25/92
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After several requests for addresses, I've augmented my original posting
and included it below. In general it should be cheaper to order from
the artists or record companies directly, but here are the addresses of
two stores that offer general mail order service:

1. O'Brien's Music Store
278 Water Street
St. John's Nfld.
A1C 1B7
(709) 753-8135
They also have more out-of-print records plus many
Irish and Scottish selections and songbooks.

2. Fred's Records
Duckworth Street
St. John's Nfld.
I've misplaced the number, postal code and phone number
but this address should get them. Otherwise, get long
distance directory assistance to give you the number.
Fred's has more modern/up-to-date stuff than O'Brien's.

Here is the original posting, with addresses added:

In article <DALTON.92A...@epoch.Geop.UBC.CA> dal...@epoch.Geop.UBC.CA (David Dalton) writes:

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I would also recommend recordings by several Newfoundland & Labrador
groups and musicians, including:

Figgy Duff (Figgy Duff, After the Tempest, Weather Out the Storm)
Hypnotic Records A&M Records Boot Records
96 Spadina Ave 939 Warden Ave 1342 Matheson Blvd. E
9th Floor Scarborough Ont Missasauga Ont.
Toronto M5V 2J6 M1L 4C5 L4W 1R1
CANADA CANADA CANADA
Hypnotic is probably the best place to write for all their releases
(I used to have a Nfld address for Hagdown Music [Noel Dinn] but I lost it.)
A&M is distributing their latest album, Weather Out the Storm and Boot
Records put out their second release, After the Tempest.


Rawlins Cross (A Turn of the Wheel, Crossing the Border)
Mckinnon Productions Rawlins Cross Productions Inc.
P.O. Box 245 85 Barnes Rd
Central Station St. John's NF
Halifax Nova Scotia A1C 3X5
CANADA B3J 2N1 (709) 738-0498
15.50/CD 10.50/CS
+1.50 post CANADIAN funds
The first address is probably the best.

Tickle Harbour (The Brule Boys in Paris, +an older one[Hare's Ears?])
Tickle Harbour is a large band with 3 Irishmen, 3 Nflders and one Chicagoan.
They are very Altan-like, but could use a better vocalist.
(flute, tin whistle, hammer dulcimer, two fiddles, guitar, mandolin, vocals)
Emile Benoit (Emile's Dream, at least one other)
Emile is a master fiddler/composer in his late 70's and has composed
100's of tunes, some of which have been played by Figgy Duff, Kelly Russel
and other.
All the Best (compilation of St. John's artists)
The compilation includes Ron Hynes (formerly of the Wonderful Grand Band),
Art Stoyles, Frank Maher (of Figgy Duff), Anita Best and Pam Morgan (of Figgy
Duff), Kelly Russell (of Figgy Duff) and Emile Benoit, and others.
The above three are on:
Pigeon Inlet Productions
P.O. Box 1202
St. John's NF
CANADA A1C 5M9

The Irish Descendants (Misty Morning Shore)
First City Productions Inc.
P.O. Box 29004
Torbay Road Post Office
St. John's Nfld
A1A 5B5 CANADA
(709) 738-0381

Rufus Guinchard, Kelly Russell, Jim Payne (a couple of records)
Rufus died last year at the age of 91. He didn't compose many tunes
but was a living storehouse of Nfld music tradition, which he passed on
to Kelly Russell and others. Jim Payne is a good singer songwriter who
often performs with Kelly Russell, Christinal Smith and others.
SingSong Productions
Station "C"
St. John's NF
A1C 6J9
CANADA
They may have some releases on Pigeon Inlet as well.


Wonderful Grand Band -- Living in a Fog
Out of print but O'Brien's may have LP's. Satirical pop
with a celtic influence.


Other upcoming Nfld. artists who may release recordings soon
soon include:
Red Clift (young band, killer fiddle and mandolin)
The mandolin player also plays in a heavy metal band on the side.
Twillagher (young band, good fiddle, good fem. vocals)
Rankin Street (sounds like early Spirit of the West)
lots of sea chanties, good vocals.
Christina Smith and friends
Christina is a hot fiddler who is also teaching many new young fiddlers.

Celtic bands in the Vancouver area include:
Spirit of the West (early stuff best)
early stuff: Stony Plain Records
P.O. Box 861
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
T5J 2L8
(403) 468-6423

later stuff: WEA Music of Canada
1810 Birchmount Rd.
Scarborough, Ontario, Canada

The Stoaters (Poguish celtic rock, soon to be released)
O'Day Productions (604) 873-9686
Martingale
Blackthorn

Other notable Canadian acts are:
The Rankin Family (several recordings)
the address has been posted before
The Barra McNeils
Loreeena McKennit (Elemental, Parallel Dreams, The Visit)
the address has been posted before
Rare Air
Celtic Blue
La Bottine Souriante (Quebecois/celtic)
Green Linnet for some, Rounder for some
43 Beaver Brook Rd. 1 Camp St
Danbury CT 06810 Cambridge Massachusetts 02140
Orealis
Green Linnet has some
and many others I'm sure.

Post or E-mail me if you want any more detail on any bands or recordings.
I can dig up mail order addresses for the Nfld. artists if anyone
wants them.
David <Dal...@Geop.UBC.CA>

David Dalton

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A little more detail on the bands:

Figgy Duff is a celtic rock band, with material ranging from
lovely melancholy ballads through upbeat arrangements of
traditional and Benoit-written Nfld. jigs and reels
and more recent celtic influenced original pop tunes written
from a Nfld perspective. They are: Pamela Morgan on vocals,
keyboard and guitar, Noel Dinn on drums, bodhran and backup vocals,
Frank Maher (or sometimes Geoff Butler) on accordions and harmonica,
Kelly Russell on fiddle, mandolin, bouzouki, concertina, lap harp, etc,
someone on electric guitar and mandolin, someone on bass.

Rawlins Cross is a celtic rock band, mostly upbeat. They do lots
of traditional jigs and reels but also do a number of original tunes
and even some blues and reggae tunes on the bagpipes. They are:
Dave Panting (formerly of Figgy Duff) on mandolin, electric guitar,
vocals, Ian McKinnon on bagpipes, trumpet, tin whistle, bodhran, harmonica,
Brian Bourne on bass and Chapman stick, and a drummer.

Tickle Harbour have been around for a while, but the lineup keeps
changing. Currently they are composed of three Nflders, three Irishmen
living in Nfld and a Chicago native working in Nfld. They sound rather
like Altan, but with a Nfld. twist and are mostly intrumently. (They
need a good vocalist). Flute (Rob Murphy), tin whistle, bodhran, two
fiddlers (Seamus Craig, sometimes Bob O'Donovan, and maybe Kelly Russell
now), guitar, mandolin, vocals. They have now been touring.

The Irish Descendants are four barrel-chested Irish-Newfoundlanders
from around the bay. They have amazing vocal harmonies live, two of
them could probably sing in a hall without amplification. They are
also good instrumentalists on fiddle/mandolin, guitar/banjo, guitar, bass.
They do a mix of original seafaring ballads, Andy Stewart tunes, Irish
pub tunes and traditional jigs and reels.
So far they haven't come out west on tour.

The Stoaters (Vancouver) are a hot new band that sound a lot like the
Pogues but have their own distinctive style. They are extremely high energy
live, but sometimes too loud. They should have a record out very soon;
I have a demo from two summers ago. They are more Scottish influenced than
Irish influenced. They are: Dennis Crews (electric mandolin, bodhran,
electric guitar, vocals), Robert Ford (spanish guitar, electric guitar,
vocals), Doug Schmidt (piano accordion, keyboard), Robert Baptie (drums)
and a new bass player.

Post or E-mail me at <Dal...@Geop.UBC.CA> if you want more detail.

David Dalton

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I forgot a couple of people in my previous post, corrected below.
Thanks to Lorne Taylor (ex-Rawlins Cross) <lo...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
for pointing out the errors.

In article <DALTON.92A...@cord.Geop.UBC.CA> dal...@cord.Geop.UBC.CA (David Dalton) writes:
A little more detail on the bands:

Figgy Duff is a celtic rock band, with material ranging from
lovely melancholy ballads through upbeat arrangements of
traditional and Benoit-written Nfld. jigs and reels
and more recent celtic influenced original pop tunes written
from a Nfld perspective. They are: Pamela Morgan on vocals,
keyboard and guitar, Noel Dinn on drums, bodhran and backup vocals,
Frank Maher (or sometimes Geoff Butler) on accordions and harmonica,
Kelly Russell on fiddle, mandolin, bouzouki, concertina, lap harp, etc,
someone on electric guitar and mandolin, someone on bass.

ADD: Rob Laidlaw on bass and Bruce Crummel on electric guitar.

Rawlins Cross is a celtic rock band, mostly upbeat. They do lots
of traditional jigs and reels but also do a number of original tunes
and even some blues and reggae tunes on the bagpipes. They are:
Dave Panting (formerly of Figgy Duff) on mandolin, electric guitar,
vocals, Ian McKinnon on bagpipes, trumpet, tin whistle, bodhran, harmonica,
Brian Bourne on bass and Chapman stick, and a drummer.

ADD: Geoff Panting (co-founder) who plays keys, button and piano accordian.
Geoff arranges almost all the songs and has written some others (Title track
on 1st album etc).
ADD: Howie Southwood - Drums and percussion


Tickle Harbour have been around for a while, but the lineup keeps
changing. Currently they are composed of three Nflders, three Irishmen
living in Nfld and a Chicago native working in Nfld. They sound rather
like Altan, but with a Nfld. twist and are mostly intrumently. (They
need a good vocalist). Flute (Rob Murphy), tin whistle, bodhran, two
fiddlers (Seamus Craig, sometimes Bob O'Donovan, and maybe Kelly Russell

CREAGH


now), guitar, mandolin, vocals. They have now been touring.

NOT

ADD Paddy Mackey - Bodhran
ADD Don Walsh - guitar and bazouki (GROUP FOUNDER) Don
owns and operates the studio the boys record in. (Don also allows
other less fortunate groups to record in his studio for VERY cut
rates if not for free!!!)
CHANGE Seamus Craig to SEAMUS CREAGH

David Dalton

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Here are some corrections to my list, notably Fred's address,
additions to the Jim Payne entry, and addition of some lesser
known artists. I have not included the original post in its
entirety. New lines are marked with a "+".

Thanks to Lorne Taylor (ex-Rawlins Cross) <lo...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>

for the Jim Payne info, and thanks to Bruce Shawyer
<bsha...@riemann.math.mun.ca> for Fred's address and numbers.

In article <DALTON.92A...@cord.Geop.UBC.CA> dal...@cord.Geop.UBC.CA (David Dalton) writes:

After several requests for addresses, I've augmented my original posting
and included it below. In general it should be cheaper to order from
the artists or record companies directly, but here are the addresses of
two stores that offer general mail order service:

1. O'Brien's Music Store
278 Water Street
St. John's Nfld.
A1C 1B7
(709) 753-8135
They also have more out-of-print records plus many

Irish and Scottish selections, songbooks and instruments.
+(However it might be cheaper to order *non-Nfld* stuff from other sources,
+e.g. Green Linnet)

2. Fred's Records
+ 198 Duckworth Street
St. John's Nfld.
+ Telephone (709) 753-9191
+ Fax (709) 739-4849


Fred's has more modern/up-to-date stuff than O'Brien's.

Here is the original posting, with addresses added:

In article <DALTON.92A...@epoch.Geop.UBC.CA> dal...@epoch.Geop.UBC.CA (David Dalton) writes:

I would also recommend recordings by several Newfoundland & Labrador
groups and musicians, including:

Figgy Duff (Figgy Duff, After the Tempest, Weather Out the Storm)

Rawlins Cross (A Turn of the Wheel, Crossing the Border)

Tickle Harbour (The Brule Boys in Paris, +an older one[Hare's Ears?])

Emile Benoit (Emile's Dream, at least one other)

All the Best (compilation of St. John's artists)

The Irish Descendants (Misty Morning Shore)

+ (addresses deleted, see previous post or E-mail me if you want them)

Rufus Guinchard, Kelly Russell, Jim Payne (a couple of records)
Rufus died last year at the age of 91. He didn't compose many tunes
but was a living storehouse of Nfld music tradition, which he passed on
to Kelly Russell and others. Jim Payne is a good singer songwriter who

often performs with Kelly Russell, Christina Smith and others.
+ Jim has a couple of recordings out, including "The Southern Cross", with
+ sealing and sealing disaster songs and a recent release, "Empty Nets",
+ with songs about the fishery, etc., featuring a variety of musicians.


SingSong Productions
Station "C"
St. John's NF
A1C 6J9
CANADA
They may have some releases on Pigeon Inlet as well.

+ Baxter Wareham, an accordion player/singer/songwriter has a release
+ "Buffet Double", Pat and Joe Byrne have a release "Towards the Sunset"
+ and Denis Ryan has a release. I think they are on the label
+ Pigeon Inlet Productions
+ P.O. Box 1202
+ St. John's NF
+ CANADA A1C 5M9

+ There are also a couple of pub bands, Stogger Tight, who do some
+ traditional Nfld. tunes, and the Sons of Erin, who are pretty
+ much a standard Irish cover pub band, who have releases out.

+ A local singer songwriter, Ron Hynes, should have a new recording
+ out soon. Some of his stuff is celtic-tinged, but his newer
+ stuff is more country.

+ There is a comedy/music group, Buddy Wassisname and the Other Fellas,
+ who have several releases out, with a mix of comedy skits and
+ Newfoundland music. The music is a mix of songs and traditional
+ tunes, with instruments ranging from the accordion to the hubcap.
+ Their releases should be available from Fred's or O'Brien's.

Post or E-mail me if you want any more detail on any bands or recordings.

David <Dal...@Geop.UBC.CA>

Eric Canton

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> Other than Clannad, The Cheiftans etc., I would highly recommend
> Allen Stivell. He is a Breton artist who mixes traditional and modern
> instruments. Well worth a listen, even if he does sing in French (horrid
>language that).

Quoi! "horrid language" yourself !!! ;-}

What would you like him (or other Breton artists ) to sing in ?
Breton ? (they sometime do)
English ? (why should they ?)

There is just as much justification for a Breton folk singer to sing in
french than for a Scottish one to sing in english. I enjoy hearing Breton
songs, and (as I don't speak Breton, which hasn't the reputation of an
easy language, either) hearing and singing French songs (or translated-in-
french songs).

Besides, French is by no means an "horrid language" for (most) french people.
It's all subject to personnal taste and background. Maybe you mean
"horridly difficult" ? It sure is not that easy a language to master ...
The fact that some non-french people try so hard to master it just proves
how much other people may differ from your opinion.

Eric Canton, who's French, speaks English, tries to learn Irish and enjoys
celtic music.

Ceri Hopkins

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>>>>> On 27 Aug 92 08:28:52 GMT, can...@robinson.ilog.fr (Eric Canton) said:

Eric> Eric Canton, who's French, speaks English, tries to learn Irish and enjoys
Eric> celtic music.

Don't you also play for Leeds United? ;-)

C.
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Iskandar Taib

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In article <1992Aug21....@philabs.philips.com> d...@philabs.philips.com (Damian M. Lyons) writes:

>Has anyone added Pierre BenSusan? Excellent sounding guitar work,
>mixture of celtic pieces and celtic influenced pieces. I especially
>like the Pres de Paris album. Solilai is good also, but less
>traditional.

He plays a piece on the one Trapezoid album I own (I forget its
name!) Sorta new-agish.

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Sean Kelley

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Or
Clannad -- Dulaman
Altan -- The Red Crow
Altan -- Harvest Storm

Slainte!

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