Rego Recordings puts out an extensive catalogue. Several old Mary Black
LPs (now cassettes) under the Dara label have been offered. One of her best
albums is "COLLECTED".
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suz...@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com
>I've recently *discovered* Mary Black and have heard that she made some
>recordings (possibly of traditional Irish music, possibly with other family
>members) before her solo recordings "No Frontiers" and "Babes in the Woods".
>Does anyone have information on such early Mary Black recordings or other
>background information on this wonderful singer?
I sure do; below is what I've culled from rec.music.folk (edited).
I'll add that I've read some neat stuff about the way she handles
the music business. The label she records for in Ireland, Dara,
is owned by her and family, and they won't just sign a distribution
deal and take the money; they would rather wait for the right label
to come along. That's why only Gifthorse has releases U.S. domestic
releases, and why only the last two are available so far. The band
rehearses live well away from the studio to be able to record with
a freshness that studio rehearsals and retakes would steal away.
I'm amazed; I put "No Frontiers" in my CD player at the start of the
Memorial Day weekend and almost had to use a crowbar to get it out,
and "Babes In The Wood" sounds to be as magical in the week I've
owned it. The music has all seemed to be exactly what my heart was
in need of, and that's earned it a treasured place in my collection.
BTW, any interest in a Mary Black mailing list?
Rob T
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>From: sle...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sarah L Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Mary Black CD's
Date: 13 Feb 92 02:41:55 GMT
"No Frontiers" and "Babes in the Woods" are the only two of her CDs which
you don't have to buy as imports. As for the rest of her backlist, as
far as I know Gifthorse Records hasn't yet acquired the rights to distribute
her older stuff on this side of the Atlantic. They were having legal
problems in that department, last I heard. Hopefully that'll change soon.
Till then you can still pick up domestic recordings of her on De Dannan's
"Song for Ireland" as well as her work with General Humbert (the latter
of which I've only seen on tape).
Has anyone heard her sister Frances' work with Arcady? Any good?
Sarah
sle...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
>From: Gerain...@comlab.oxford.ac.uk (Geraint Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Mary Black
Date: 13 Mar 92 16:18:36 GMT
In rec.music.folk jo...@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) wrote:
>-> I've seen a few references recently about Mary Black's earlier albums and
>-> that they might be out of print. Does anyone have a discography that
>-> contains here earlier releases.
They're not out of print, just switchied distributors. In fact there are
humungous quantities of them everywhere you look in the UK these days.
Something to do with Harvey Goldsmith Ents, I guess. ...
Mary Black + others, Dominion Theatre Saturday 9th May
Tickets L10, L8, Box office 071 580 9562 / 8845 `and usual agents'
There are half a dozen albums in her name:
DARA 002 Mary Black
DARA 010 Collected
DARA 016 Without the fanfare
DARA 027 By the Time it Gets Dark
DARA 032 No Frontiers
GRAPECD 008 Babes in the wood
and a `Best of' almost exclusively drawn from the DARA albums, also on DARA.
She also appears on (inter alia) a couple of Black Family recordings
DARA 023 The Black Family
DARA 035 Time for touching home
and backing on (inter alia) Arcady's eponymous DARA 037, Dolores Keane's
eponymous CD TUeT 72.136, the Hummingbird/BBC/RTE compilation `Bringing it all
back home' (singing Grey Funnel Line amongs others -- ``voice like an angel'').
g
~From: bo...@prl.philips.nl
~Date: Mon, 27 Jan 92 19:22:35 +0100
BARNEY RUBBLES "FOLK CHART"
...
3 - THE SONG OF THE SINGING HORSEMAN (Jimmy McCarthy)
Jimmy is a songwriter who's songs are mainly made famous
by either Mary Black or Christy Moore, and are usually
either about love or God or both. Gems on this album include
the title track, the grip of parallel (for the fiddle solo),
Bright Blue Rose and the best ballad ever wrote in No Frontiers.
...
6 - THE BEST OF MARY BLACK (Mary Black)
There are some songs on "Babes in the Woods" that would disclude
that album from this list but it is more than made up for when
she released this compilation, with truly old songs right up until
her most recent ones. My Sister-in-law got me this from Xmas.
From: suz...@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Suzanne Barrett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Mary Black CDs, Tapes, others
Best place to find LOTS of Irish tapes, etc. is through Rego Irish Records,
Tapes & Videos. Us and Canada 1-800-854-ERIN. Add: 64 Hyde Park Road,
Garen City, NY 11530.
From: l...@ulysses.att.com (L. G. McKnight)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: A MARY BLACK SONG/CD
Date: 19 May 92 13:10:08 GMT
In article <v0mit...@agate.berkeley.edu> s...@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>What you want is the LP (not the CD) of "Collected" by
>Mary Black -- it has the better version of Anachie Gordon.
>It is very difficult to find in the U.S. Interestingly
>enough, the Berkeley Public Library has a copy I was
>able to check out.
The LP of Mary Black "Collected" is DARA 110 and, as somebody has noted,
it does not contain Anachie Gordon. What it does contain is:
As I Leave Behind Neidin (Jimmie McCarthy)
Mo Ghile Mear (Trad)
Men of Worth (Archie Fisher)
Fare Thee Well My Own True Love (Trad)
She Moves Through the Fair (Trad)
Both Sides the Tweed (Dick Gaughan)
Song For Ireland (Phil Colclough)
Will Ye Gang (Trad)
Isle of St. Helena (Trad)
My Youngest Son Came Home Today (Eric Boggle)
Truly a wonderful record.
Collected seems to refer to miscellaneous previous releases (three
of the cuts are attributed to "General Humbert II" LP Recorded in 1982,
Gael-Linn CEF 095); "As I Leave Behind Neidin" is credited as being from
the LP "Without the Fanfare" (DARA 002) and "Will Ye Gang Love" is from
the "The Black Family" LP (DARA 023)) but four of the cuts are marked as
"Recorded in October 1984 at Windmill Lane Studios" which presumably
means that they were not previously released.
>BTW, it seems to me that whatever record company infighting
>is keeping the older Mary Black recordings from being
>sold in the U.S. has gone on altogether too long....
These Mary Black LP's are distributed in the U.S. by Shanachie
Records (P.O Box 208, Newton, N.J. 07860, 201-579-7763) but
"Collected" (DARA 110) seems to have gone out of print -- I
think that I got the last copy. "Where were you last year?",
says she "We threw away hundreds of these old LP's". Sigh ...
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Heaven knows / No frontiers
And I've seen heaven in your eyes - Jimmy McCarthy
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"Rock gives reality to the otherwise abstract notion of transhuman
time." - Edward Abbey
Maura was interviewed for an hour on KALW in San Francisco
a week or so ago. She makes a very large point that she isn't
and never was a traditional singer (contrary to the cover
notes on the CD of "Star Spangled Molly," her De Dannan LP.
Indeed, the three songs she sings on that album aren't even
Irish. She said they were all written by tin pan alley
American composers to sound Irish, hence the title.
I love the two albums produced by Bela Fleck. The more
recent one had a card soliciting comments; I sent it
back saying that everything is overproduced.
Steve Goldfield
P.S. Hello, Don. We met at spring Strawberry; I think
Don Wolski introduced us.
Does Babes in the Woods sound more like folk music or does it
have a country western flavor to it?
I recently got my hands on "Mary Black" and "Without the Fan-
fare". I find myself liking two or three tracks and not really
liking the rest. "Anachie Gordon" and (especially) "Crow on the
Cradle" were stunning, but a lot of the tracks sound too much
like Country music to me.
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Neither. MB & her "band" have a unique but pop sound, which whatever
its merits or minuses are, is pretty far from Nashville or
folk roots, tho there's the occaisional nod in those directions.
There's a Las Vegas torch singer hiding somewhere inside Mary, too.
|> Steve Goldfield
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>Does Babes in the Woods sound more like folk music or does it
>have a country western flavor to it?
>I recently got my hands on "Mary Black" and "Without the Fan-
>fare". I find myself liking two or three tracks and not really
>liking the rest. "Anachie Gordon" and (especially) "Crow on the
>Cradle" were stunning, but a lot of the tracks sound too much
>like Country music to me.
More like folk music to my ears, especially if your definition of folk
includes a lot of modern acoustic music that Just Isn't Top Forty. I
will add the caveat that "Past The Point Of Rescue" from "No Frontiers"
is such an obvious country arrangement that it has been remade by some
Nashville guy into something country programmers would just love :-(
Rob T
I've heard that, tho I can't remember who it was that did it.
Have you heard Mick Hanley do it himself? Very country, but
it sounded very hi-quality to me. Has anyone heard the rest of
his CD, or his other recordings? Any comments? PTPOR is the
one & only for me so far.
Perhaps, popular folk with a bit o' Irish in it would best describe it.
Forget about the label. Both "No Frontiers" and "Babes in the Wood" have
some beautiful music on them. I prefer "Babes in the Wood"
| I
|will add the caveat that "Past The Point Of Rescue" from "No Frontiers"
|is such an obvious country arrangement that it has been remade by some
|Nashville guy into something country programmers would just love :-(
I've heard it on the local pop-country station, usually squeezed in between
"Achey Breaky Heart" and any Garth Brooks tune.
|Heaven knows / No frontiers
|And I've seen heaven in your eyes - Jimmy McCarthy
Quite a few of the songs that Mary Black does are written by Jimmy McCarthy.
He's is an excellent lyricist. I just picked up "Da Nanann"'s _Song for
Ireland_ and noticed that Jimmy McCarthy contributed to another "Da Nanann"
album.
A bit more about _Song for Ireland_. Mary Black does lead vocals on three
tunes. "Live Not Where I Love" and "Song For Ireland" are quite nice. There
were several other "Da Nanann" CD's there and I just picked this because
I could see that both Mary Black and Maura O'Connell did vocals. I hadn't
heard Maura O'Connell and the one song that she did mostly consisted of
various giggles and noises behind other vocal by the rest of the band. While
Shanachie records produces some good music they leave a lot to be desired in
their liner notes. I like to see instrumentation and or at least the names of
the artists contributing to an album. Unfortunately Shanachie only lists the
tracks on the back of the CD's. Could someone recommend another "Da Nanann"
CD which features Maura O'Conell or perhaps another that features Mary Black.
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Lori Cole
>Quite a few of the songs that Mary Black does are written by Jimmy McCarthy.
>He's is an excellent lyricist. I just picked up "Da Nanann"'s _Song for
>Ireland_ and noticed that Jimmy McCarthy contributed to another "Da Nanann"
>album.
"De Dannan" 9-)
By the way I got to hear Mary's sister Frances Black sing on the
last Thistle&Shamrock. Don't recall exactly what it was but I'll
give it a re-listen.
If you like stunning female vocals (vocalists?) check out little-
known Vancouver singer Ann Mortifee. I have four of her tapes now
and my absolute favorite is "Baptism". The kind of music that you
want a quiet evening alone to listen to without any distractions.
"Journey to Kairos" is also pretty good, though the songs are longer,
more cabaret-like and don't follow you around all day like the ones
in "Baptism" do. "Bright Encounter" is more like pop, not a great
favorite, and "The Ecstacy of Rita Jo" is actually a ballet/play
with ONE really good piece in it.
I'll post an address (don't have it here now) for Jabula Records
in Vancouver. For $12 apiece her tapes are a steal.
Yea, I know. I had the CD sitting in front of me at the time I was posting
the article as well. I just screwed up.
|By the way I got to hear Mary's sister Frances Black sing on the
|last Thistle&Shamrock. Don't recall exactly what it was but I'll
|give it a re-listen.
I've been trying to find the Black Family albums for awhile. The local
Tower Records has a card for it but I've never seen any CD's in it.
|If you like stunning female vocals (vocalists?) check out little-
|known Vancouver singer Ann Mortifee.
And I thought you were going to say Loreena McKennitt. Oh great, now I've
got *another* stunning female vocalist to add to my list. My CD habit is
bad enough as it is. When I picked up the Da Danann CD the other day they
were playing something by a group called Arkady (sp?) that was very similar
to Da Danaan. It was also quite good.
|I have four of her tapes now
|and my absolute favorite is "Baptism". The kind of music that you
|want a quiet evening alone to listen to without any distractions.
|"Journey to Kairos" is also pretty good, though the songs are longer,
|more cabaret-like and don't follow you around all day like the ones
|in "Baptism" do. "Bright Encounter" is more like pop, not a great
|favorite, and "The Ecstacy of Rita Jo" is actually a ballet/play
|with ONE really good piece in it.
I don't suppose any are available on CD?
>Oh great, now I've got *another* stunning female vocalist to add to my list.
I hate it when that happens. The only thing worse is _not_ hearing
about another stunning female vocalist :-)
Rob T
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I have one of these. I think it's called ` A kiss in the morning early".
I think it was released on Mulligan and if so it's probably still
available from them on album or cassette.
Can't remember the name of the other one.
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>|Heaven knows / No frontiers
>|And I've seen heaven in your eyes - Jimmy McCarthy
>Quite a few of the songs that Mary Black does are written by Jimmy McCarthy.
>He's is an excellent lyricist. I just picked up "Da Nanann"'s _Song for
>Ireland_ and noticed that Jimmy McCarthy contributed to another "Da Nanann"
>album.
And his solo compilation of last year is recomended listening(very).
>A bit more about _Song for Ireland_. Mary Black does lead vocals on three
>tunes. "Live Not Where I Love" and "Song For Ireland" are quite nice. There
>were several other "Da Nanann" CD's there and I just picked this because
>I could see that both Mary Black and Maura O'Connell did vocals. I hadn't
>heard Maura O'Connell and the one song that she did mostly consisted of
>various giggles and noises behind other vocal by the rest of the band. While
>Shanachie records produces some good music they leave a lot to be desired in
>their liner notes. I like to see instrumentation and or at least the names of
>the artists contributing to an album. Unfortunately Shanachie only lists the
>tracks on the back of the CD's. Could someone recommend another "Da Nanann"
>CD which features Maura O'Conell or perhaps another that features Mary Black.
What about Delores Keane, she used to be in De Danann as well, and she is
an excellent singer as well, She also recorded "My Love is in America"
with the previously mentioned Mick Hanly in '88 which as very different
to what he did before but puts a lot into it.
As with all previous singers in De Denann, the have all gone on to
successful solo careers (even if they came out of them to sing with
De Danann) and they should all be worth a listen (even Christy)
Slan en Howdo,
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>In <13...@auspex-gw.auspex.com> jo...@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>>Oh great, now I've got *another* stunning female vocalist to add to my list.
>I hate it when that happens. The only thing worse is _not_ hearing
>about another stunning female vocalist :-)
Let me hit you with another one. She's been mentioned here a few times, usually
by people wanting to know more about her.
Her name is Connie Kaldor, and she hails from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
(pronounced Sketchwan :-)). She has a magnificent voice, with great range
and emotion, and is also an excellent songwriter. She's been active on the
folk circuit for most of the last twenty years, and has a number of albums
out (somebody out there maybe can do a discography?).
She has a new disc out, titled "Wood River - Home Is Where The Heart Is."
It's a collection of her songs about Saskatchewan, country and people,
and it's stunning. All the songs are written by Connie, except one which
is co-authored by Roy Forbes, who also produced the album and sings and
plays on some of the cuts. (Roy Forbes, aka Bim, aka Rockin' Roy Forbes
is another story.)
I'd do a mini-review, but I'm still listening un-critically.
She's touring in the fall. I don't know the extent of her tour, but she'll
be in Athabasca on Nov. 6.
An unqualified second! "Wood River" is Connie's fourth solo album. The
others are:
One Of These Days
Moonlight Grocery
Gentle Of Heart
She also has a Christmas album with Bim/AKA Roy Forbes, "New Songs for an
Old Celebration", and an album of lullabyes in French and English with
(...c'mon, brain, remember the name...), ah, Madeleine Campagne (?) called
"Lullabyes, Berceuses".
All are wonderful. The older ones aren't available on CD, but the last
two ("Gentle Of Heart" and "Wood River") are. Connie's solo stuff is
all on Coyote Productions, and the Christmas album is on Aural Tradition
Records. They are all available from Festival Records, the record-selling
arm of the Vancouver Folk Music Festival:
Festival Records
3271 Main Street
Vancouver, BC
CANADA V5V 3M6
I can't remember any of the details of the lullabye album offhand; sorry.
And, yes, Bim is a whole 'nother story. For somebody with such a strange
voice, he's one of the better singers I know of. Also a dynamite guitarist
and a great songwriter, he's appeared on albums with Connie, with Ferron,
and numerous other Canadian artists. He even has a CD on Flying Fish
(Roy Forbes - "When Love Turns To Ice") that's pretty widely distributed
in the States. Buy it!
Don Coolidge
cool...@speaker.wpd.sgi.com
|I've been trying to find the Black Family albums for awhile. The local
|Tower Records has a card for it but I've never seen any CD's in it.
I got my Black Family CD from Devine (yes, not Divine!) Celtic
Sounds. Agh! Another address to look up... in fact this is the
only place I've found ANY Mary Black CDs. They do a great "Broom
O' the Cowdenknowes" and a couple of neat sea chanteys.
||If you like stunning female vocals (vocalists?) check out little-
||known Vancouver singer Ann Mortifee.
|And I thought you were going to say Loreena McKennitt. Oh great, now I've
|got *another* stunning female vocalist to add to my list. My CD habit is
|bad enough as it is. When I picked up the Da Danann CD the other day they
|were playing something by a group called Arkady (sp?) that was very similar
|to Da Danaan. It was also quite good.
Thats right.. I remember now. Frances sings with Arkady.
||I have four of her tapes now
||and my absolute favorite is "Baptism". The kind of music that you
||want a quiet evening alone to listen to without any distractions.
||"Journey to Kairos" is also pretty good, though the songs are longer,
||more cabaret-like and don't follow you around all day like the ones
||in "Baptism" do. "Bright Encounter" is more like pop, not a great
||favorite, and "The Ecstacy of Rita Jo" is actually a ballet/play
||with ONE really good piece in it.
|I don't suppose any are available on CD?
No... I checked. Its unfortunate. I'd love to see at least "Baptism"
released on CD. These were apparently recorded a while back. You might
be able to find them on LP, though. She does have a new recording on CD,
but forget what its called. Its supposed to be music for healing...I
suppose one might use Enya for that 9-)
The next one on my list is Ann's compilation of songs by Jacque Brel.
Now theres one interesting singer/songwriter.
Arcady. The voice is Frances Black, she is (and they are) touring Britain /
just at the moment. I find her rather wobbly voice a bit disappointing, /
but that might just be the contrast with Mary Black. / g
Mick Hanley A kiss in the monring early Green Linnet SIF3017
(P)1976 Mulligan Music MCPS
(P)(C)1982 Green Linnet Records Inc
Mick Hanley As I went over Blackwater Green Linnet SIF3007
(P)1980 Mulligan Music MCPS
(P)(C)1982 Green Linnet Records Inc
Good traditional music on both these records. Both were available on vinyl
(at $4 plus postage!) from Green Linnet in October of last year.
Green Linnet, Inc
43 Beaver Brook Road
Danbury, Ct. 06810
(203) 730-0333
Lee McKnight
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Murray Hill, New Jersey
Jabula/Mabela records
PO Box 91699
West Vancouver, BC V7V 3P3
Tapes/Albums available by Ann Mortifee
Bright Encounter
*Jacque Brel Lives
Born To Live
*Reflections on Crooked Walking
Journey to Kairos
Baptism
*The Ecstasy of Rita Jo
Cost is $15.00 per album/cassete (not all are available as
albums) including shipping.
*Not mentioned in latest catalog
One CD is available:
Serenade at the Doorway $22.00 including shipping.
I assume these are Canadian $.
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Mary Black Cds available from:
Devine Celtic Sounds
PO Box 5983
Glendale AZ 85312.
HUGE selection of hard-to-find LPs and CDs, including used
and collectors items.