The Clumsy Lovers
CDOW...@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu
are not doing anything....or don't have plans yet for St. Patricks day....I've
got something for you to do!
Go and see the great band "The Clumsy Lovers" at First Avenue on March 17th.
They will be with another good band "Boiled in Lead"! I know all of the
members of Clumsy Lovers personally and I can guarentee you a great time!!!!
So go...go...go...and have fun...... and then let me know what you think!!!
Christina Dowling(cdow...@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu)
Gary Martin
Go and see the great band "The Clumsy Lovers" at First Avenue on March 17th.
Do they take their name from the tune "The Clumsy Lover"? I'm curious
about how widespread that tune is, and what people know of its origin.
I first heard it played by Kat Eggleston at a campfire at Kerrville,
and then on "Port of Dreams" by William Pint and Felicia Dale. They
all credit the Canadian piper, Neil Dickie, with authorship (but since
the three of them are close friends, I'm inclined to count this as only
one source of information). Then, two weeks ago, I heard Seamus Egan
play it on tenor banjo. At intermission, I asked him where he got it.
He said he learned it from some fiddlers in Cape Breton, and that it
was a popular tune there, of Scottish origin. (Definitely the same
tune - and a great one!) Anybody know more about it?
--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Mar...@cis.umassd.edu
CDOW...@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu
says that it is a Scottish tune (highland piping tune) he also says it is a
rather difficult piece to play on string instraments...but lots of fun to
play. Like you....we both think it is a lovely tune and yes...that is where
they got their name.......When they played at Irish Fest (Milwaukee) last year
you wouldn't believe how many people wanted to check out there music just from
the name of the band.....
Have a great day.....
it's snowing here in Chicago....
James Moore
>Do they take their name from the tune "The Clumsy Lover"? I'm curious
>about how widespread that tune is, and what people know of its origin.
It's definitely by Neil Dickie. You can find the music in his "First Book:
A Collection of Bagpipe Music for All Stages." The music appears on the
same page as another tune called "F-F-F-F-Frustration," with a footnote
saying "The juxtaposition of the last two tunes was not intentional even
though the titles do tend to suggest a certain morose train of thought!"
Other good tunes in the same book include "Musicwriter's Block" a lament
consisting of 16 empty bars :-), The Kitchenpiper, which gets played a lot
by pipers but doesn't seem to made it into wide circulation, and one of
my personal favorites, a pseudojig called "Not the Bunny Hop."
I have no idea when the tune was written; they copyright date on the book
is 1983.
--
James Moore /|\ ja...@wrs.com
Wind River Systems \|/ Alameda, California
"Half of what he said meant something else, and the other half
didn't mean anything at all"
Mark D Hessman
Boiled in Lead show at First Avenue will be the farewell concert for
the current lineup of the group. Todd Menton (vocalist, guitarist, etc)
will be leaving the band to do more traditional projects; BiL will
continue, but they'll no doubt be sounding a lot different.
-- Mark
Anna Peekstok
>Do they take their name from the tune "The Clumsy Lover"? I'm curious
>about how widespread that tune is, and what people know of its origin.
>I first heard it played by Kat Eggleston at a campfire at Kerrville,
>and then on "Port of Dreams" by William Pint and Felicia Dale. They
>all credit the Canadian piper, Neil Dickie, with authorship (but since
>the three of them are close friends, I'm inclined to count this as only
>one source of information). Then, two weeks ago, I heard Seamus Egan
>play it on tenor banjo. At intermission, I asked him where he got it.
>He said he learned it from some fiddlers in Cape Breton, and that it
>was a popular tune there, of Scottish origin. (Definitely the same
>tune - and a great one!) Anybody know more about it?
I also get my information from William Pint and Felicia Dale, but I would
guess they're right about Neil Dickie because they also play at least two
other tunes by him and there is a definite stylistic consistency to the
three pieces. His stuff tends to go like a bat out of hades and have at
least one section that defies fingering (on woodwinds or fiddle) and
requires serious practice to get right.
I can also testify to the speed at which composed pieces in the folk genre can
become detached from their authors. William and Felicia talk about Tom
Lewis hearing one of his pieces performed somewhere and being frankly
disbelieved when he told the performer that he had written the song. And
just the other day my husband happened to hear an album-in-progress by a
local harpist and was astonished to hear one of his own compositions on
it, which the harper had listed as "traditional"!
Anna Peekstok (peek...@u.washington.edu)
Colin Matheson
>Do [the Clumsy Lovers] take their name from the tune "The Clumsy Lover"?
>I'm curious about how widespread that tune is, and what people know
>of its origin.
It's definitely a Neil Dickie tune. It's a very popular session tune
in Scotland, and it's been recorded by lots of people - I'm pretty
sure it's on the last Vale of Atholl pipe band album, for example.
One hopes the band take the name from the tune. :-)
Colin
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CDOW...@nuacvm.acns.nwu.edu
excellent tune. They even play it....and not a bagpipe in sight. It sounds
really neat with a bouzoki (sp) and fiddle arrangement.
Christina....
Colin Matheson
>just the other day my husband happened to hear an album-in-progress by a
>local harpist and was astonished to hear one of his own compositions on
>it, which the harper had listed as "traditional"!
I'm afraid this is quite common - it's a real pain tracking down
composers for PR, and the lazy way out is "trad".