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DeForest Thornburgh

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Dec 12, 1994, 12:55:28 AM12/12/94
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Can anyone tell me what album Judy Collins sang 'Armathea' on.
The tune is one of those tragic old folk songs where the evil
'Sherrif' would trade Armathea's brother's freedom for
Armatheas's favors. Of course at the same time Armathea is
aquiesing to the Sherrif's demands, the Sherrifs men are hanging
the brother from a tree in the woods. Ms. Collins rendition of
the song is absolutly bone-chilling with only a solitary guitar
for accompiment. Who can tell me the name of the album or supply
me with a source for the song.

Thank you,

DeForest

JohnR46132

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Dec 12, 1994, 2:17:09 PM12/12/94
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>Can anyone tell me what album Judy Collins sang 'Armathea' on.

The correct title is "Anathea" and it's on Judy Collins #3, EKL-243

Robert G McCausland

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Dec 12, 1994, 2:25:27 PM12/12/94
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DeForest Thornburgh <7337...@CompuServe.COM> writes:

>Can anyone tell me what album Judy Collins sang 'Armathea' on.

<...>

I believe the correct spelling is "Anathea."

This is on the one Judy Collins album I have (or had, it's long since
gone, tho' I have it on tape.)

It's called *Recollections*, I believe, and it must have been released
mid 70s. Other songs of note on it are "Pack Up Your Sorrows", "Tomorrow
is Such a Long Time," and "Fare Thee Well, My Own True Love."

I continue to search her CD bins, but I guess it's not yet available.

On the sunny side,

~~Rob McCausland
rg...@world.std.com

Gerry Myerson

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Dec 12, 1994, 6:18:51 PM12/12/94
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In article <D0ppy...@world.std.com>, rg...@world.std.com (Robert G
McCausland) wrote:
->
-> DeForest Thornburgh <7337...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
->
-> >Can anyone tell me what album Judy Collins sang 'Armathea' on.
->
-> It's called *Recollections*, I believe, and it must have been
-> released mid 70s.

This must be a collection of tracks from earlier albums. I think her
original recording was on her third album, the imaginatively-titled
Judy Collins 3, released in 1964 or so.

Gerry Myerson

Gene Wilburn

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Dec 12, 1994, 7:23:54 PM12/12/94
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>It's called *Recollections*, I believe, and it must have been released
>mid 70s. Other songs of note on it are "Pack Up Your Sorrows", "Tomorrow
>is Such a Long Time," and "Fare Thee Well, My Own True Love."

>I continue to search her CD bins, but I guess it's not yet available.

Good news! I picked up the CD about a year ago. A *great* collection of
early Collins material.

Cheers, Gene

Jim Hanmore

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Dec 13, 1994, 4:51:00 PM12/13/94
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-> From: DeForest Thornburgh <7337...@CompuServe.COM>

-> Can anyone tell me what album Judy Collins sang 'Armathea' on.
-> The tune is one of those tragic old folk songs where the evil
-> 'Sherrif' would trade Armathea's brother's freedom for
-> Armatheas's favors. Of course at the same time Armathea is
-> aquiesing to the Sherrif's demands, the Sherrifs men are hanging the brother
-> from a tree in the woods. Ms. Collins rendition of
-> the song is absolutly bone-chilling with only a solitary guitar for
-> accompiment. Who can tell me the name of the album or supply me with a
-> source for the song.
->
-> Thank you,
->
-> DeForest

The song is "Anathea" from her #3 album on Elektra EKL-243. Now out of print.
Judy wrote in the liner notes "I am told that Lydia Wood was given the poem
when she was in Paris a few years ago, and set the lovely melody to this story
of cruel justice".

Jim

Alan Peterman

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Dec 15, 1994, 2:37:33 AM12/15/94
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The song Anthea is indeed on Recollections, where it was collected
from the original release on the album "Judy" (her first I think).
Great tune.

BTW - I have a spare copy of Recollections, in fine shape if someone
needs it. It's got most her best stuff from the first 5 albums.

--
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A J Mestel

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Dec 15, 1994, 5:28:56 AM12/15/94
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I'm not sure which album it's on - I vaguely recall Joan Baez singing it
a long time ago. It's a Hungarian song originally, I think, called Anathea.

Jonathan

DaveF20

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Dec 17, 1994, 12:05:34 AM12/17/94
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A live version of Anathea appears on the newly released CD 'Judy Collins
Live at Newport' on Vanguard. This CD is a collection of songs from
Newport Folk Festivals of the late 50's and early 60's.

A.J. Davis

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Dec 19, 1994, 7:32:58 AM12/19/94
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In article <60.32137.42...@canrem.com> jim.h...@canrem.com (Jim Hanmore) writes:

>-> Can anyone tell me what album Judy Collins sang 'Armathea' on.
>-> The tune is one of those tragic old folk songs where the evil
>-> 'Sherrif' would trade Armathea's brother's freedom for
>-> Armatheas's favors

>Judy wrote in the liner notes "I am told that Lydia Wood was given the poem


>when she was in Paris a few years ago, and set the lovely melody to this story
>of cruel justice".


Sounds a similar tale to that in 'Lazlo Feyra' that Toni Arthur (UK
artist) used to sing in the early 70's. This was supposedly 'translated from
the Hungarian'. It starts:

'Lazlo Feyra stole a stallion, stole it on the
misty mountain, but they chased him and they caught him and in iron chains
they bound him'

It continues with the sister (Anna Feyra) trading 'her flower' with the judge
despite her brothers warning - which proves all too true since 'in the judges
bed at midnight Anna heard the gallows groaning'. Anna then comprehensively
curses the judge and the man dies a hidious death from which 'thirteen shelves
of drugs won't cure [him]' (useful stuff magic).

Are these songs by any chance related ?

Andrew

a.j....@leeds.ac.uk

Mark Rosenthal

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Dec 19, 1994, 2:15:06 PM12/19/94
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In article <pab6awd.9...@leeds.ac.uk>,

A.J. Davis <pab...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
>Sounds a similar tale to that in 'Lazlo Feyra' that Toni Arthur (UK
>artist) used to sing in the early 70's. This was supposedly 'translated from
>the Hungarian'. It starts:
>
>'Lazlo Feyra stole a stallion, stole it on the
>misty mountain, but they chased him and they caught him and in iron chains
>they bound him'
>
>It continues with the sister (Anna Feyra) trading 'her flower' with the judge
>despite her brothers warning - which proves all too true since 'in the judges
>bed at midnight Anna heard the gallows groaning'. Anna then comprehensively
>curses the judge and the man dies a hidious death from which 'thirteen shelves
>of drugs won't cure [him]' (useful stuff magic).

I haven't listened to the Judy Collins album in years, but the words you quoted
are virtually identical to what I remember of "Anathea". It's got to be the
same song. Anybody know who "Lazlo Feyra" was? Are Judy Collins or Toni Arthur
on the Internet?

--
Mark of the Valley of Roses
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jo...@netcom.com

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Dec 20, 1994, 1:57:02 PM12/20/94
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A.J. Davis (pab...@leeds.ac.uk) wrote:
> In article <60.32137.42...@canrem.com> jim.h...@canrem.com (Jim Hanmore) writes:

> >-> Can anyone tell me what album Judy Collins sang 'Armathea' on.
> >-> The tune is one of those tragic old folk songs where the evil
> >-> 'Sherrif' would trade Armathea's brother's freedom for
> >-> Armatheas's favors

> Sounds a similar tale to that in 'Lazlo Feyra' that Toni Arthur (UK

> artist) used to sing in the early 70's. This was supposedly 'translated from
> the Hungarian'. It starts:

> 'Lazlo Feyra stole a stallion, stole it on the
> misty mountain, but they chased him and they caught him and in iron chains
> they bound him'

> It continues with the sister (Anna Feyra) trading 'her flower' with the judge
> despite her brothers warning - which proves all too true since 'in the judges
> bed at midnight Anna heard the gallows groaning'. Anna then comprehensively
> curses the judge and the man dies a hidious death from which 'thirteen shelves
> of drugs won't cure [him]' (useful stuff magic).

> Are these songs by any chance related ?

I'd say so, since all they lyrics you quoted are word-for-word identical
to what Judy Collins sang, except she may have said "heal him" instead of
"cure him." I also always thought the guy's name was "Lazlo Thayer," but
that could have been just my faulty understanding. Definitely the same
song.
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A.J. Davis

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Dec 21, 1994, 10:24:49 AM12/21/94
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Dear RMFolk

Mark Rosenthal and several others have told me that Armathea and Lazlo Feyra
are the same.

.... Just thought - are 'Armathea' and 'Anna Feyra' just versions of the
heroine's name ? Could be ! I've never seen the thing in print and never
heard it sung since the 70s (except by me that is) so i guess that Lazlo
Feyra = Laslo Theyer = Laslothea = Lady Thea (!?) or Anna Feyra = Anna Theyer
= Armathea are all possible.

I said in my original posting that Toni Arthur sang it - well, Toni was there
but it's possible somebody else sang it. Toni can be contacted c/o EFDSS
Cecil Sharp house, 2 Regents Park Rd, London NW1 7AY UK. Doubt that
there's a email connection.


Andrew

a.j....@leeds.ac.uk

Ian Anderson

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Dec 21, 1994, 3:48:55 PM12/21/94
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mb...@roger.gte.com (Mark Rosenthal) wrote:
>
> In article <pab6awd.9...@leeds.ac.uk>,
> A.J. Davis <pab...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
> >Sounds a similar tale to that in 'Lazlo Feyra' that Toni Arthur (UK
> >artist) used to sing in the early 70's. This was supposedly 'translated from
> >the Hungarian'. It starts:
> >
> >'Lazlo Feyra stole a stallion, stole it on the
> >misty mountain, but they chased him and they caught him and in iron chains
> >they bound him'

> I haven't listened to the Judy Collins album in years, but the words you quoted


> are virtually identical to what I remember of "Anathea". It's got to be the
> same song.

That was quite a common song in the '60s and '70s (he said, showing
his age). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that like a huge
amount of UK revival favourites it was put into circulation by A.L.
Lloyd (but I can't find a record with it on). There was a nice version
called Anna Feher recorded by American banjo legend Derroll Adams (he
who wrote Portland Town) on his Belgian EMI album *Along The Way* in
the mid '70s. I have a vague memory of Wizz Jones doing it too.

Ian Anderson (Folk Roots)

DaveF20

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Dec 24, 1994, 12:57:15 AM12/24/94
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According to the Judy Collins Songbook, Grosset & Dunlap, 1969:

Anathea, words by Neil Roth, Music by Lydia Wood, starts:

'Lazlo Feher stole a stallion, ...'

Susan Bulla

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Dec 31, 1994, 6:28:00 PM12/31/94
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R > mid 70s. Other songs of note on it are "Pack Up Your Sorrows", "Tomorrow
R > is Such a Long Time," and "Fare Thee Well, My Own True Love."
R >
R > I continue to search her CD bins, but I guess it's not yet available.

Yes, it is.

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