John Stewart (songwriter) dead at 68
Will Dockery
>
> Hey Will,
>
> My favorite musician died yesterday.
Really sad... he was one of ther greats, and sadly overlooked by the
mainstream.
His death is getting almost no
> press coverage. Could you please forward this on to everyone you know,
> like you have before with stuff about like Bob Dylan and others. I was
> supposed to email him for Playgrounds, but - now it's obviously not
> going to happen.
I remember that... too bad it never happened.
> John Stewart wrote, "Daydream Believer," "Runaway Train" and had his
> own Top 40 hit, "Gold" which featured Stevie Nicks and Lindsay
> Buckingham.
>
> This was not written by me, but here is what I would like you to pass
along:
>
> My friend John Stewart died this morning in San Diego, California ..
> in the hospital he was born in on September 5th, 1939 ... 68 years
> ago.
>
> John suffered a massive stroke or brain aneurysm early Friday morning
> in San Diego. Doctors had determined that any difficult surgical
> remedies that might have been employed to save his life-- even if
> successful -- would had left John immobile and unable to speak. It
> wasn't generally known, but doctors had told John in recent years that
> he had apparently experienced various minor strokes, likely in his
> sleep
>
> In the early 1970s, Stewart wrote "Cooler Water, Higher Ground," one
> of his many highly personalized songs, in which he sang "I was born in
> the heat of September, and I died in the cool of the fall ... borning
> and dying we do all the time, it don't mean much of nothing at all."
> But his passing will mean so much, to so many, around the world.
>
> John's all-time companion and wife Buffy, and his children -- Mikael,
> Jeremy, Amy, and Luke -- were at his side when he passed peacefully
> around 7:30 a.m. Pacific time. John never regained consciousness after
> collapsing in his hotel room late Thursday/early Friday, and was not
> in pain during his time at Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego.
>
> John Stewart leaves a compilation of musical excellence unparalleled
> in his time. He recorded over 45 solo albums following his seven years
> in the Kingston Trio, 1961-67. He worked all the way up to the time of
> his death, having recently completed his latest as-yet untitled album.
> It is estimated that he wrote more than 600 unique and highly personal
> songs, many of them constituting a modern musical history of his
> beloved America.
>
> He leaves behind a wide-ranging group of fans who have felt a passion
> for him and his music that bordered on fanaticism. Chief among them
> are the Bloodliners, a hard-core legion of supporters who communicated
> via computer everyday in discussing John and his career.
>
> It can now be said that John was told last summer, shortly before Trio
> Fantasy Camp 8, that he was suffering from the initial stages of
> Alzheimer's disease. That news was kept from the public in the hope
> that his condition would stabilize and allow him to work in the
> following years until the disease took its eventual toll. Indeed he
> had stabilized in the time since Camp, and was able to bravely perform
> several concert shows and do the studio work on his new album.
>
> If there is a blessing in his passing, it is that he will now be
> spared the true ravages of that awful disease. He will not suffer the
> gradual personal mental reductions caused by Alzheimer's, though he
> had already lost his ability to drive, owing to California law. In
> fact, one of the new songs on the upcoming album is "I Can't Drive
> Anymore," a typically honest and emotional personal reaction to his
> situation.
>
> Speaking personally, losing John creates a hole in my soul. I had
> agonized for months over the Alzheimer's prognosis. But after talking
> with many of his friends and family yesterday, I can see that --
> facing a debilitating future -- it was -- and this is so hard to say
> --the right time for him to go. This is what he would have wanted, in
> light of what he ultimately faced.
>
> Johnny always drew a crowd, and there was a gathering of friends at
> the hospital in San Diego over the past two days. Starting with Nick
> Reynolds from John's Trio days and his wife Leslie, John's entire
> family had been joined at his bedside by longtime sidekick Dave "Dave"
> Batti, John Hoke, Chuck McDermott, Greg Jorgenson, John's boyhood best
> friend George Yanok, who flew in from Nashville upon hearing the news,
> and other family, friends, and acquaintances. A kind of "Irish wake"
> was held throughout Friday and into early Saturday, with the friends
> and old bandmates sharing many of the limitless John Stewart stories.
>
> No plans have been announced yet for any memorial observations. I'll
> let you know as soon as Buffy decides.
>
> I'm so sorry to have to write this, to have to tell you this. Outside
> my closest family members, John was the brightest light of my life.
> This creates an emptiness that can never be filled. If you are tempted
> to mourn to great lengths today, as so many of us surely are, we have
> to remind ourselves of what a gift he was for all of us. And how lucky
> we all were to have had the opportunity to have shared in his amazing
> music and stage artistry. We might, each of us, have missed him, you
> know. But--lucky for us--we didn't.
>
> He hated moping around, and looked for the bright side, and laughter,
> in everything. He wouldn't even allow me to be 'down' about having
> cancer. He even berated me at one point about it. He had amazing
> drive, and a creative force within him that was stunning in its
> intensity and breadth. And some day his amazing personal songs will be
> discovered by a mass audience, and the world at large, and he will
> receive the wide-ranging accolades he was denied in his time.
>
> Trust me. Think about him today, listen to that incredible body of his
> work, think about the electric personality we experienced in EVERY
> show he did ... in the literally thousands and thousands of
> performances in which he gave us everything he had, stretching from
> venues big and small, from coast to coast, from 1957 to 2007. You will
> smile when you do; and eventually laugh when recalling the magic of
> his art and personality. We will not see his like again, but we have
> been so lucky to have shared him across the decades -- and found each
> other through him, because of him. It does not feel like it, but we
> are the lucky ones today. That will become evident in the time to
> come.
>
> Because, like you ... I loved him too.
>
> Tom DeLisle
>
> --
> Robbie Wright
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Colin Ward
<will.d...@knology.net> wrote:
>On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>> My favorite musician died yesterday.
Mine, too. :(
Are they shooting down the angels?
You can bet your life they are.
They're irresistible targets
For any shooting star.
-----------------------------------------
And are there choices for the sparrow
Or does he only fly
High above the rivers
Pulling you and I?
-----------------------------------------
For dying children cannot sing
The anthems of the burning wings
-----------------------------------------
I never had a job
Where the boss didn't steal
The bass drum from his own brass band.
Don't you think I know
That we're both growing old?
I can tell by the veins in your hand.
-----------------------------------------
Inner thighs and magic angels
Looking out on Harvard Square
Penny wise the pale white strangers
Were the only faces there.
Lay me down in blond warm shadows
Speak to me of golden pond
Torture me with slow blue tangos
Even when the thrill is gone.
-----------------------------------------
And he will take you dancing
in the liquid desert heat.
-----------------------------------------
It can’t be worlds away
It’s only where the wind comes from
It’s the wheel within the clay
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Those aren't clouds on the horizon
They're the shadows of the angel's wings.
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Clear the tracks, the song's been taken
This may be the last hurrah
In Tennessee they were forsaken
L.A. was the coup de grace.
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What are the choices
For those who remain?
The sign of the cross
Or the runaway train?
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- John Stewart, dead at 68
Paul Hansford
"Colin Ward" <kal...@mts.net> wrote in message
news:ju6bp3tq57ajepvhq...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:50:10 -0500, "Will Dockery"
> <will.d...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>>On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>> -----------------------------------------
>
> And are there choices for the sparrow
> Or does he only fly
> High above the rivers
> Pulling you and I?
>
That should be "pulling you and ME" - rather spoils the rhyme though.
> Clear the tracks, the song's been taken
> This may be the last hurrah
> In Tennessee they were forsaken
> L.A. was the coup de grace.
>
Does this mean it's pronounced "coo de grah"? It's "coo de grahss"
actually.
I haven't heard of the dead guy, but don't doubt it's sad. The only problem
I have is that you want to remember him with bad poetry.
P
Will Dockery
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:07:51 -0500, Valerie L Magee wrote:
> >Rick B. wrote:
>
>> The Kingston Trio's website is reporting that he suffered a massive stroke on
> >> Thursday and died today (1/19).
> >>http://www.kingstontrio.com/html/kt_news.htm
>
> >> No further details, and apparently no mass media obits yet.
>
> >Quite a few details at his web site:
>
> >http://chillywinds.com
>
> >I got an email yesterday from an acquaintance who reported John
> >Stewart's death, and I spent a long time looking for information. As of
> >last night, there were no media obits. That's a shame.
>
> >Valerie Magee
>
> Val, the San Francisco Chronicle, NY Times, AOL News (surprised me), Associated
> Press. and CBS Sunday Morning have all picked up the story so far. I imagine
> there will be more to come.
>
> Rick Daly
> Folk U.S.A.www.folkusa.org
Thanks for the info, y'all.
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Robbie Wright
wrote:
> "Colin Ward" <kalt...@mts.net> wrote in message
I'm sorry, but where is your Top 10 hit? Your devoted group of
thousands of fans that absolutely love you? You have no right to
insult the masters.
John Stewart wrote Daydream Believer. He also had a Top 10 hit in
1979, Gold. He was an amazing writer, there is no other John Stewart.
I love his lyrics, and Colin, those are some of my favorite! "Eyes of
Sweet Virgina" is also a gem. I hope that John's final album will be
released.
>
> P
Robbie Wright
> On Jan 21, 12:41 am, rfd...@optonline.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:07:51 -0500, Valerie L Magee wrote:
> > >Rick B. wrote:
>
> >> The Kingston Trio's website is reporting that he suffered a massive stroke on
> > >> Thursday and died today (1/19).
> > >>http://www.kingstontrio.com/html/kt_news.htm
>
> > >> No further details, and apparently no mass media obits yet.
>
> > >Quite a few details at his web site:
>
> > >http://chillywinds.com
>
> > >I got an email yesterday from an acquaintance who reported John
> > >Stewart's death, and I spent a long time looking for information. As of
> > >last night, there were no media obits. That's a shame.
>
> > >Valerie Magee
>
> > Val, the San Francisco Chronicle, NY Times, AOL News (surprised me), Associated
> > Press. and CBS Sunday Morning have all picked up the story so far. I imagine
> > there will be more to come.
>
> > Rick Daly
> > Folk U.S.A.www.folkusa.org
>
> Thanks for the info, y'all.
I'm happy to say that I have seen more media on John's death. I have
written an article for Playgrounds and have sent in four photographs
taken by a fellow who followed John Stewart for a long time. The
photographs are from the last Kingston Trio Fantasy Camp, and look
great. I would really like for all of them to be used in my article,
but I don't know if that will happen or not.
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Will Dockery
Perhaps getting it to Vickie right away might help, before the issue
becomes too crowded.. do you have those photos online anywhere yet?
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
Will Dockery
wrote:
I came across this good obituary on John Stewart:
John Stewart
Maverick singer-songwriter
The Independent
21 January 2008
Spencer Leigh
A former member of the Kingston Trio, John Stewart wrote the
Monkees hit "Daydream Believer" and secured his own hit with
a sceptical song about the music industry, "Gold". These
brushes with success were accidents and Stewart, a defiant
maverick, said he had no desire to sustain them. Instead, he
released album after album on which he chronicled life in
contemporary America.
John Stewart was born in San Diego, California in 1939. His
father trained racehorses but John's main interest was in
music. He fronted a rock'*'roll band called the Furies and
in 1957 recorded "Rockin' Anna" for a small label. Then he
heard the Kingston Trio, a campus act who made three or four
albums a year for Capitol. "I heard these great songs that
you could play with a guitar and no amp," he told me in
2000.
The songs were about history and, as I love history, this
was tailor-made for me. I played the Kingston Trio some
stuff in their dressing room and they did "Molly Dee". They
put it on their album Here We Go Again! and my first royalty
was for more than my dad made in year. That set my course.
Stewart, playing both guitar and banjo, formed the
Cumberland Three, with Gil Robbins (father of the actor Tim
Robbins) and John Montgomery. They recorded three albums and
had moderate success, but Stewart left in 1961 to join Bob
Shane and Nick Reynolds in the Kingston Trio. Mostly, the
Trio sang smooth adaptations of old folk tunes but they
introduced the world to Pete Seeger's anti-war song "Where
Have All the Flowers Gone", Billy Edd Wheeler's "Rev Mr
Black", "Seasons in the Sun", an English translation by Rod
McKuen of a Jacques Brel song, and Stewart's own "Chilly
Winds".
In 1965, the Trio moved to US Decca and achieved a more
contemporary sound, with Stewart providing much of the
material. He wrote eight of the songs on their fine Children
of the Morning (1966) and he is well to the fore on their
double-album Once Upon a Time, a live set from Lake Tahoe.
Their final concert, recorded at the Hungry i in San
Francisco in July 1967, was recently released and you can
sense from it that Stewart was desperate to break free from
this musical straitjacket.
His liberation was helped by the Monkees turning "Daydream
Believer" into an international hit in 1967, but he never
gave them another song: "Nothing else I wrote was like
'Daydream Believer': it was a blip on the screen. If I'd
tried to write another 'Daydream Believer', it would have
sounded like 'Daydream Believer'."
Stewart's first solo album was the critically acclaimed
California Bloodlines (1969), produced by Nik Venet for
Capitol. It was made in Nashville in the same week that Bob
Dylan made Nashville Skyline and is far superior in both
material and performance, although it did not meet with the
same success.
Many compared Stewart to Johnny Cash. They were tall,
imposing figures and they had an element of spirituality in
their voices which distracted from any imperfections.
Stewart himself disliked the vibrato on his early records
but this enhanced his work, especially on the one song
central to any discussion of his work, "Mother Country". He
displays his love of America by thinking of the past: there
are vignettes about old pioneers and the sequence about a
blind man riding his horse for the last time is profoundly
moving.
Peter Asher produced Stewart's next album, Willard (1970),
on which the guest musicians included James Taylor, Doug
Kershaw and Carole King. Stewart then moved to Warner
Brothers and cut two albums, The Lonesome Picker Rides Again
(1971) and Sunstorm (1972), produced by his brother Michael,
a former member of We Five.
Over at RCA, Stewart returned to Nashville and recorded his
best album, Cannons in the Rain (1973). One song, "All Time
Woman", describing the monotony of touring, is one of many
he wrote for his wife Buffy Ford. Perhaps the most poignant
of these is "Some Kind of Love" from his 1975 album,
Wingless Angels:
Some kind of love is like gold
That is the hardest to hold
It catches the eye of each thief passing by
Some kind of love is like gold.
The RSO album Bombs Away Dream Babies (1979) contained
Stewart's million-selling "Gold", with harmony vocals from
Stevie Nicks. Ironically, this song about not having a hit
was his most successful record. "I was so depressed when I
had a hit," he recalled.
All my old problems were still there and I had new problems.
I had a big-time manager and agent; I had a band and a bus;
and I was opening for Chicago and people were throwing
frisbees while I sang. I went on the road for three weeks
and made $80,000 but for what? I said to the President of
RSO, "Now what?" And he said, "Well, you have to do it
again."
The next album, Dream Babies Go Hollywood (1980), despite
the presence of Linda Ronstadt and Phil Everly and some
excellent songs, failed to sell and Stewart's moment of
glory was over.
From then on, in those pre-internet days, it became
increasingly difficult to keep up with his work. His albums
included Blondes (1982), Revenge of the Budgie (1983), Punch
the Big Guy (1987) and Bullets in the Hour Glass (1992). For
a time he released albums on his own Homecoming label. He
loved coming to the UK, even if it was only to perform in
the back room of a pub, and among his more esoteric releases
is The Essential John and Buffy, recorded at the Turf Inn,
Dalry, Scotland, in 1994.
When Buffy contracted a brain tumour, for two years Stewart
found he had writers' block. Then, after her recovery, he
wrote some of his best songs, including "Waiting for Castro
to Die", "The Day the River Sang" and "Who Stole the Soul of
Johnny Dreams", although his voice was failing. In 2007, his
response to hearing that he had Alzheimer's disease was to
write "I Don't Drive Anymore".
John Coburn Stewart, singer and songwriter: born San Diego,
California 5 September 1939; twice married (three sons, one
daughter); died San Diego 19 January 2008.
Visit www.aodeadpool.com
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Robbie Wright
It's already all sent to Vickie. I hope she actually received the
photos. There was a slight mix-up with the photos and they didn't send
the first time.
I don't actually have them online anywhere, they were emailed to me.
However, here is a link to Howard (I forget his last name)'s site. He
sent me the photographs. He has photos of John from the last ten years
there... http://www.sonic.net/roadman/bloodnotes
Robbie Wright
He released over 40 albums and wrote an (estimated) somewhere over 600
songs. I also had the blessing of receiving, a few years back, a lot
of old bootlegs of his. With some great songs on them.
Rolling Stone named California Bloodlines one of the 200 Greatest
Albums of all time, some years ago.
> Many compared Stewart to Johnny Cash. They were tall,
> imposing figures and they had an element of spirituality in
> their voices which distracted from any imperfections.
> Stewart himself disliked the vibrato on his early records
> but this enhanced his work, especially on the one song
> central to any discussion of his work, "Mother Country". He
> displays his love of America by thinking of the past: there
> are vignettes about old pioneers and the sequence about a
> blind man riding his horse for the last time is profoundly
> moving.
>
> Peter Asher produced Stewart's next album, Willard (1970),
> on which the guest musicians included James Taylor, Doug
> Kershaw and Carole King. Stewart then moved to Warner
> Brothers and cut two albums, The Lonesome Picker Rides Again
> (1971) and Sunstorm (1972), produced by his brother Michael,
> a former member of We Five.
>
John's least favorite album of his was Sunstorm. At least at one time
it was. It's one of my favorites!
Blondes is a great album. There were two releases... A Swedish release
and an American release. I was extremely fortunate and thankful to
find a Swedish Blondes record on eBay for $9!
> When Buffy contracted a brain tumour, for two years Stewart
> found he had writers' block. Then, after her recovery, he
> wrote some of his best songs, including "Waiting for Castro
> to Die", "The Day the River Sang" and "Who Stole the Soul of
> Johnny Dreams", although his voice was failing. In 2007, his
> response to hearing that he had Alzheimer's disease was to
> write "I Don't Drive Anymore".
It's actually "I Can't Drive Anymore."
>
> John Coburn Stewart, singer and songwriter: born San Diego,
> California 5 September 1939; twice married (three sons, one
> daughter); died San Diego 19 January 2008.
>
> Visitwww.aodeadpool.com
>
That was really good. Mine article on him is actually already
published in my blog on MySpace. I decided to give it an early
release, due to the circumstances. It's actually not as long or as
detailed as that one, but is heartfelt, I think. I would actually like
to write a lot more about him, but I really find myself at a loss of
words.
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Will Dockery
Thanks, I'll have a look at those when I return later tonight, I need
to check out Parnello's shortly and chase the allmighty dollar a
while.
You going downtown to the Dailey's Bar open mic tonight? If Parnello's
is having another slow Tuesday - hopefully they will - I'll drop in
and join the band for a couple of numbers. Those guys shut it down way
too early for my taste, 11pm most others are just getting started!
Such as my usual Tuesday open mic haunt at SoHo... I'm thinking of
switching a day with Chad so I can take in both shows...
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Robbie Wright
Yeah. There are some excellent photographs on there! I'd use 'em all
if I could.
> You going downtown to the Dailey's Bar open mic tonight?
No, I won't be making it down there tonight. I probably won't be
downtown for a while, at least not until it warms up. My "doorman"
status was too much to take last week! Plus there aren't many babes
out to let me exercise my photography skills.
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Robbie Wright
> On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey Will,
>
> > My favorite musician died yesterday.
>
> Really sad... he was one of ther greats, and sadly overlooked by the
> mainstream.
>
> His death is getting almost no
>
> > press coverage. Could you please forward this on to everyone you know,
> > like you have before with stuff about like Bob Dylan and others. I was
> > supposed to email him for Playgrounds, but - now it's obviously not
> > going to happen.
>
> I remember that... too bad it never happened.
Yeah. We were actually in the process of getting ready to do the
interview when he died. Back in November I contacted him for an
interview (again) and he told me he would call, but never did. I
decided I would wait until all the holidays had passed by so there
wouldn't be distractions for the interview. We were setting a time up
again when I got an email... I wish that I had not waited so long to
seriously pursue an interview with him. I had tried before, but I
didn't go about it exactly right and I also didn't go straight to
John, so the word never got to him. It then just occurred to me that I
should simply have a shot at emailing him directly. The reason I
didn't before was because he gets so many emails and I really wanted
to get word to him. He and I had actually talked several times over
email - about various subjects. Just never professionally.
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Will Dockery
Yeah... what's the staus on hanging in the Green Room? I noticed that
performing musicians can still wait it out in there before hitting the
stage... I know Bead seems to put the kibosh on that at his whim,
though.
It seems the Thursday open mic at Fountain City Coffeehouse would be a
good place for you, being all ages? What's up with that? I never
manage to make it to that one, although I intend to.
Robbie Wright
There are details with that I cannot disclose publicly. I can tell you
though that it has to do with someone (not me) bein' an idiot and jerk
and some other more colorful things.
>
> It seems the Thursday open mic at Fountain City Coffeehouse would be a
> good place for you, being all ages? What's up with that? I never
> manage to make it to that one, although I intend to.
That open mic allegedly both yips and spins. That's just what I've
heard though. I'm not making a judgement. No, it's really my own
choice to do what I do, y'know. I would prefer to hang out at Dailey's
and generally wander throughout Downtown, than go to FCC or any of the
other places.
Will Dockery
> On Jan 21, 12:50 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> > On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
> > > Hey Will,
>
> > > My favorite musician died yesterday.
>
> > Really sad... he was one of ther greats, and sadly overlooked by the
> > mainstream.
>
> > His death is getting almost no press coverage.
>
> > > supposed to email him for Playgrounds, but - now it's obviously not
> > > going to happen.
>
> > I remember that... too bad it never happened.
>
> Yeah. We were actually in the process of getting ready to do the
> interview when he died. Back in November I contacted him for an
> interview (again) and he told me he would call, but never did. I
> decided I would wait until all the holidays had passed by so there
> wouldn't be distractions for the interview. We were setting a time up
> again when I got an email... I wish that I had not waited so long to
> seriously pursue an interview with him. I had tried before, but I
> didn't go about it exactly right and I also didn't go straight to
> John, so the word never got to him. It then just occurred to me that I
> should simply have a shot at emailing him directly. The reason I
> didn't before was because he gets so many emails and I really wanted
> to get word to him. He and I had actually talked several times over
> email - about various subjects. Just never professionally.
Yeah, too bad about how timing works... wonder if you could get
permission to use parts of the email conversations with Stewart?
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Robbie Wright
Yeah, I could use them without permission, actually. Since it's
someone who is no longer living and I'm not tarnishing his legacy.
(I'm pretty sure that's how it is. I need to reread the media law on
that) However, I've already gone through them and there's nothing I
think would really add to my article. I have also considered - after
the pain of this has passed - to try to see if I could interview his
long-time friend and bass player. I've talked with him a lot before in
the past. Four days before John Stewart's death I had actually asked
him if he could remind John about calling me, because John did not
have a good short time memory later on in his life. Likely due to the
early stages of Alzheimer's. And he had a back fall and blow to the
head, that personally, I don't ever believe he fully recovered from.
Check out my blog on MySpace... I've put up some especially meaningful
John Stewart lyrics, my early release of the article, and the initial
email I got letting me know about John. blog.myspace.com/
civilianrobbie
> > > > Published on June 16, 2006, Page A1, Columbus Ledger-Enquirer (GA)- Hide quoted text -
Colin Ward
To be fair to Paul, the grammar and pronunciation are
bad, although both are common errors on this side of the pond,
at least, and could come under the heading of "poetic license".
You'll hear worse from Bob Dylan, for sure, and occasionally
even from Leonard Cohen. As for the notion that one needs to
have a Top 10 hit to express an opinion, well, I don't know
where you're going with that. Speaking for myself, I would
encourage Paul or anyone else unfamiliar with the Master to
check out his work. FWIW, I've never met anyone who didn't
like Stewart's music. We're talking about the guy that
Lindsay Buckingham learned to play guitar from, remember.
I've always thought of Stewart's lyrics as being in a
class with Dylan's, though perhaps not Cohen's. Musically,
of course, Stewart eclipsed both. This, in my opinion, makes
him the greatest popular songwriter of our time.
>John Stewart wrote Daydream Believer. He also had a Top 10 hit in
>1979, Gold. He was an amazing writer, there is no other John Stewart.
>I love his lyrics, and Colin, those are some of my favorite! "Eyes of
>Sweet Virgina" is also a gem. I hope that John's final album will be
>released.
"Waltz of the Crazy Moon" is my favourite of his later
songs. I was hoping to meet John last fall--I got to see all
my other songwriter heroes--but, sadly, my trip to California
was cancelled.
Best regards,
Colin
"We've come to where eternity
begins, its gateway arched.
Another drop flows out to sea
and leaves the land more parched."
Robbie Wright
I simply meant that I do not believe that he has a place expressing an
almost insulting opinion about someone like John. I don't know exactly
what Paul's intentions were, but I've dealt with some real idiots on
here that love to say stuff just to be mean, and I am personally so
hurt by the loss of John and lost opportunity's that insults to such a
great man are not what I want to hear.
I am certainly for introducing the "Big Guy" to ... pretty much
anyone!
>
> I've always thought of Stewart's lyrics as being in a
> class with Dylan's, though perhaps not Cohen's. Musically,
> of course, Stewart eclipsed both. This, in my opinion, makes
> him the greatest popular songwriter of our time.
>
> >John Stewart wrote Daydream Believer. He also had a Top 10 hit in
> >1979, Gold. He was an amazing writer, there is no other John Stewart.
> >I love his lyrics, and Colin, those are some of my favorite! "Eyes of
> >Sweet Virgina" is also a gem. I hope that John's final album will be
> >released.
>
> "Waltz of the Crazy Moon" is my favourite of his later
> songs. I was hoping to meet John last fall--I got to see all
> my other songwriter heroes--but, sadly, my trip to California
> was cancelled.
>
"Waltz of the Crazy Moon" is one of my favorite songs, as well. I've
covered it a few times when I played out.
Just curious, but are you a Bloodliner, Colin? I am, but I rarely ever
do anything on there. I just like to read.
> Best regards,
>
> Colin
>
> "We've come to where eternity
> begins, its gateway arched.
> Another drop flows out to sea
> and leaves the land more parched."- Hide quoted text -
Colin Ward
<robbiegeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Just curious, but are you a Bloodliner, Colin?
For years, yes.
> I am, but I rarely ever do anything on there.
Same here.
Dennis M. Hammes
> "Colin Ward" <kal...@mts.net> wrote in message
> news:ju6bp3tq57ajepvhq...@4ax.com...
>
>>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:50:10 -0500, "Will Dockery"
>><will.d...@knology.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>>>-----------------------------------------
>>
>>And are there choices for the sparrow
>>Or does he only fly
>>High above the rivers
>>Pulling you and I?
>>
>
>
> That should be "pulling you and ME" - rather spoils the rhyme though.
>
>
>>Clear the tracks, the song's been taken
>>This may be the last hurrah
>>In Tennessee they were forsaken
>>L.A. was the coup de grace.
>>
>
>
> Does this mean it's pronounced "coo de grah"? It's "coo de grahss"
> actually.
It the pronunciation is in error, it's persistent. In 60 years, I've
heard it /only/ his way.
(Yeh, I had French, where the third word alone is "grahss.")
>
> I haven't heard of the dead guy, but don't doubt it's sad. The only problem
> I have is that you want to remember him with bad poetry.
>
> P
>
>
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Dennis M. Hammes
>
> Best regards,
>
> Colin
>
> "We've come to where eternity
> begins, its gateway arched.
St. Louis isn't eternity.
(It only seems that way.)
Paul Hansford
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>>
>>>Clear the tracks, the song's been taken
>>>This may be the last hurrah
>>>In Tennessee they were forsaken
>>>L.A. was the coup de grace.
>>>
>>
>> Does this mean it's pronounced "coo de grah"? It's "coo de grahss"
>> actually.
>
>
> It the pronunciation is in error, it's persistent. In 60 years, I've
> heard it /only/ his way.
> (Yeh, I had French, where the third word alone is "grahss.")
>
I can only assume that in the US (right?) an incorrect pronunciation is
accepted as normal. "Coup de grace" is French, and that's how it's
pronounced. Still, for a nation that loses a syllable from "al-u-min-i-um"
and pronounces "mir-ror" as one syllable, what can we expect?
P
Robbie Wright
wrote:
> "Dennis M. Hammes" <scrawlm...@arvig.net> wrote in messagenews:aLqdncQWgsqYlQra...@onvoy.com...
American is a different language - that has been long established.
Might want to read up on it, friend.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences
> P
Will Dockery
>"Colin Ward" wrote in message
Ah... the sappy Terry Jacks version is the one that got the big
airplay...
Since I've pretty much solved my problems with MySpace (a couple still
exist, but hopefully those will be resolved soon) I'll go over and
have a look...
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Will Dockery
> On Jan 23, 9:16 am, "Paul Hansford" wrote:
> > "Dennis M. Hammes" wrote
>
> > >>>Clear the tracks, the song's been taken
> > >>>This may be the last hurrah
> > >>>In Tennessee they were forsaken
> > >>>L.A. was the coup de grace.
>
> > >> Does this mean it's pronounced "coo de grah"? It's "coo de grahss"
> > >> actually.
>
> > > It the pronunciation is in error, it's persistent. In 60 years, I've
> > > heard it /only/ his way.
> > > (Yeh, I had French, where the third word alone is "grahss.")
>
> > I can only assume that in the US (right?) an incorrect pronunciation is
> > accepted as normal. "Coup de grace" is French, and that's how it's
> > pronounced. Still, for a nation that loses a syllable from "al-u-min-i-um"
> > and pronounces "mir-ror" as one syllable, what can we expect?
>
> American is a different language - that has been long established.
> Might want to read up on it, friend.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences> P
Of course if we want to go real American, "grace" rhymes with "ace"
and "space"...
Robbie Wright
> On Jan 23, 1:13 pm, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 23, 9:16 am, "Paul Hansford" wrote:
> > > "Dennis M. Hammes" wrote
>
> > > >>>Clear the tracks, the song's been taken
> > > >>>This may be the last hurrah
> > > >>>In Tennessee they were forsaken
> > > >>>L.A. was the coup de grace.
>
> > > >> Does this mean it's pronounced "coo de grah"? It's "coo de grahss"
> > > >> actually.
>
> > > > It the pronunciation is in error, it's persistent. In 60 years, I've
> > > > heard it /only/ his way.
> > > > (Yeh, I had French, where the third word alone is "grahss.")
>
> > > I can only assume that in the US (right?) an incorrect pronunciation is
> > > accepted as normal. "Coup de grace" is French, and that's how it's
> > > pronounced. Still, for a nation that loses a syllable from "al-u-min-i-um"
> > > and pronounces "mir-ror" as one syllable, what can we expect?
>
> > American is a different language - that has been long established.
> > Might want to read up on it, friend.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_differences> P
>
> Of course if we want to go real American, "grace" rhymes with "ace"
> and "space"...
Yeah. Of course, you have heard that in America someone can spell
their name Alfred Jordan The Fifth and pronounce it as "John Smith." I
don't think American's follow the rules very closely. And that's what
I love about our language. Have you ever read any of John Lennon's
books? I've been reading "A SPAINIAD IN THE WORKS" and "IN HIS OWN
WRITE." Those delve into some not exactly correct spellings and
grammar! But who's going to argue with Lennon? ;-)
>
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Robbie Wright
> On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > My favorite musician died yesterday.
>
> Really sad... he was one of ther greats, and sadly overlooked by the
> mainstream.
>
> His death is getting almost no
>
> > supposed to email him for Playgrounds, but - now it's obviously not
> > going to happen.
>
> I remember that... too bad it never happened.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > own Top 40 hit, "Gold" which featured Stevie Nicks and Lindsay
> > Buckingham.
Allegedly, and I do stress allegedly, Lindsey Buckingham is on the
album John Stewart recorded just before his death, that hasn't been
released. One obit reported that. However, I had not heard anything
about it before reading that obit, and it seems like that would have
been something that would have been known on Bloodlines already. I
hope to, sometime down the road, contact Dave and ask him about
Stewart's last album's details and whatnot. I would love to do that
now and add it to my article, but I feel as if I should wait out of
respect.
Lindsey Buckingham was on several of John's albums in the '80's. I
know he performed on at least one song on "Wires From The Bunker." He
arranged "Queen of Hollywood High" and "Jenny Was A Dream Girl" off of
Blondes, and added backing vocals to "Jenny Was A Dream Girl." Linda
Ronstadt added vocals to "Queen of Hollywood High." Buckingham also
sang on "Hearts and Dreams On The Line" off of "The Last Campaign." I
believe he was also on John's "Chilly Winds" album - although I'm not
sure of exactly what songs he was on.
I think that Lindsey Buckingham was on some other albums of John's,
too, but I'm not sure of which ones.
Another interesting thing to note, is that after John Stewart left the
Trio, he was planning on working with John Denver. They recorded
several songs, but Denver's voice over powered John's and they
couldn't sing together like was planned. John Denver later song on
Stewart's "Survivor's" off of "Canon's In The Rain." Stewart still had
the tapes that he and Denver recorded together, but they had not been
released to my knowledge. John released to a fan and friend of his, a
box full of his old demos. Most of them are available as various
bootleg CDs that have been passed around on Bloodlines. The quality is
really good on most of the recordings, too. In fact Stewart's
officially released "Wires From The Bunker" was a compilation CD made
up of demos from the "Gold" era of John's recording. I have actually
an early demo of "Gold," which is pretty interesting.
John Stewart also recorded a song with Johnny Cash, "Get Rhythm," but
the two recording their vocal parts separately and were never in the
same studio together.
> "Mirror Twins" by Dockery-Fowler:http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> > Google's new "News Archive"
>
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Will Dockery
"Robbie Wright" wrote:
>Will Dockery wrote:
>>rfd...@optonline.net wrote:
> >>Valerie L Magee wrote:
> > >>>Rick B. wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> The Kingston Trio's website is reporting that he suffered a
massive stroke on
> > > > > > > > >> Thursday and died today (1/19).
> > > > > > > > >>http://www.kingstontrio.com/html/kt_news.htm
>
> > >No further details, and apparently no mass media obits yet.
>
> > >Quite a few details at his web site:
>
> > >http://chillywinds.com
>
> > >I got an email yesterday from an acquaintance who reported John
> > >Stewart's death, and I spent a long time looking for information. As of
> > >last night, there were no media obits. That's a shame.
> > > Press. and CBS Sunday Morning have all picked up the story so far. I
imagine
> > > there will be more to come.
>
> > > > I'm happy to say that I have seen more media on John's death. I have
> > > > written an article for Playgrounds and have sent in four photographs
> > > > taken by a fellow who followed John Stewart for a long time. The
> > > > photographs are from the last Kingston Trio Fantasy Camp, and look
> > > > great. I would really like for all of them to be used in my article,
> > > > but I don't know if that will happen or not.
Not sure what those terms mean, exactly (don't sound so favorable though, am
I right?)... translation, please?
I know that there's a really young somewhat boisterous crowd from the
college dorms that surround it, and that there's a no smoking environment
inside.
>That's just what I've
>heard though. I'm not making a judgement. No, it's really my own
choice to do what I do, y'know. I would prefer to hang out at Dailey's
and generally wander throughout Downtown, than go to FCC or any of the
>other places.
Sounds like Glen, John and Jordan have transplanted their unique open mic
concept well to Daileys.
Did you notice that Rhino's has shut down for good, now? Went by there last
week and the place is completely deserted, with a huge "for lease" sign in
the window.
Who knows? Maybe someone decent will move into the place.
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
"Ozone Stigmata" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
Robbie Wright
Ha! The first time I've had to translate something I said for you,
Will. Yeah, I meant that the Open Mic down there wasn't that great -
so I've heard. Again, I've never been, but that's the word goin'
around. It's also not everything Thursday - it is very random as to
when they actually have it. I guess some nights enough people don't
show up.
>
> I know that there's a really young somewhat boisterous crowd from the
> college dorms that surround it, and that there's a no smoking environment
> inside.
>
Yeah, I remember one night when I went down there back in the Dave Van
days... there was a LOUD Christian rock band that came down there and
filled the place up with college-age lookin' kids. The place was
seriously packed. And the band was too loud, so Dave shut it down for
the night. The band wasn't too friendly either - I don't think they
had read their Bible's much.
> >That's just what I've
> >heard though. I'm not making a judgement. No, it's really my own
>
> choice to do what I do, y'know. I would prefer to hang out at Dailey's
> and generally wander throughout Downtown, than go to FCC or any of the
>
> >other places.
>
> Sounds like Glen, John and Jordan have transplanted their unique open mic
> concept well to Daileys.
>
Yeah - the one at Dailey's is really nice so far! Nice and loud, too.
They apparently have a GREAT PA system now. I interviewed Glen for PGs
Feb issue.
> Did you notice that Rhino's has shut down for good, now? Went by there last
> week and the place is completely deserted, with a huge "for lease" sign in
> the window.
Oh! I'm sorry to hear that. I liked Rhino's.
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Will Dockery
Too bad... I just talked with Henry Conley, and we're set to hit the
stage around 11pm tonight, before he takes off to do some Florida
shows with Joey Allcorn tomorrow and through the weekend.
Will Mallard be covering some John Stewart tonight as a tribute?
Great, maybe it'll help... although it sure won't be doing the
faltering SoHo open mic, on the same night, a whole lotta good!
Shows Dave and Vickie, who own both Playgrounds /and/ SoHo believe in
giving everyone a fair shake on the customer base on the fairly
limited weeknights, though!
> > Did you notice that Rhino's has shut down for good, now? Went by there last
> > week and the place is completely deserted, with a huge "for lease" sign in
> > the window.
>
> Oh! I'm sorry to hear that. I liked Rhino's.
Well, about a month ago Brent sold the place /and/ the Rhino's name to
the hip-hop club across the street, and is planning to open a new
place on the north end of town in a few months for his alternative
type crowd, he was sick of the violence downtown on his end of the
street, and wanted to get out before one of his audience got injured
(again, actually). The new owner immediately changed "format" to a
dance club/hiphop place, scattering Ryan Rulon, my poetry night and
the other regulars (Ryan's now playing his Wednesday gig at Sweet 23,
which is near the airport) until he regroups at the new place...
...now, surprisingly, Rhino' is simply closed down after a very short
time. Perhaps the guys across the street bought Brent out just to be
the only nightclub on that block, I dunno, and nobody I know seems to,
either.
Will Dockery
"Robbie Wright" wrote
(Don't know why Google isn't /quoting/ properly, these days/... I notice
that with everyone posting through Google Groups today)
Yeah, unfortunatly (for John Stewart, who won't see it) the next, last
record will probably get a big promotion, "the late great" and all that...
but good for the fans and maybe new ones.
Gotta run pretty soon for the Loft, to catch Mallard's set... hoping he'll
do some Stewart cover or two, and I know he tries to go on as soon as
possible, and to have a meeting with Henry to see what he wants for a set
tonight... a good chance he has some JS material in mind, perhaps something
really early, maybe even "Daydream Believer"... that wou;d be pretty cool,
I've had the words engrained in my brain for 40 years now... heh.
> > Google's new "News Archive"
rfd...@optonline.net
Maybe if you people had won the war back in the 18th century, we'd talk and
spell like you do. But I speak AMERICAN english and I'm proud of it.
Robbie Wright
Yeah, I noticed that earlier, too.
>
> Yeah, unfortunatly (for John Stewart, who won't see it) the next, last
> record will probably get a big promotion, "the late great" and all that...
> but good for the fans and maybe new ones.
>
Yeah. I've thought about that. You know, one of my secret agendas for
Playgrounds was to help promote John Stewart - through CD reviews, an
interview, general news, etc. etc. Now, though, I feel as, "what's the
point?" I mean, I'm not saying it's /pointless/ now, but it just hurts
to write about him now. I certainly want to print news on his last CD
and it's hopeful release.
I just wish I had not waited so long to start...
> Gotta run pretty soon for the Loft, to catch Mallard's set... hoping he'll
> do some Stewart cover or two, and I know he tries to go on as soon as
> possible, and to have a meeting with Henry to see what he wants for a set
> tonight... a good chance he has some JS material in mind, perhaps something
> really early, maybe even "Daydream Believer"... that wou;d be pretty cool,
> I've had the words engrained in my brain for 40 years now... heh.
>
>
Yeah, but you know, the correct lyrics for Daydream Believer were "Now
you know how FUNKY I can be..." They wouldn't let Davey Jones sing
funky, though - so it became "happy."
So, did you do "Daydream Believer?" Or any other Stewart? I would love
to see Brian do a Stewart cover, but it probably won't even cross his
mind...
Dennis M. Hammes
U.S., "right."
But the Periodic Table seZ "aluminum" in all languages, and
Midwest Standard seZ "mir-or."
And the most "coup-de-grah" I heard was in Brit and Brit-actor movies
(plebes don't even know the term).
Personally, I've never had to say it, only write it, but I'm
inclined to the French, which is, of cuss, what it is.
(It's the "cut" that prevents the loser in duel or field from
taking four days to die of a belly-wound, and would be charged as
"murder" by any cocksucking priest or Princess today, so don't fuken
start with me.)
Paul Hansford
telling any third party readers. And for my part, I've only ever heard "coo
de grah" from Americans. (How strange.) Brits tend to pronounce French
words in a more-or-less French way.
As for alumin(i)um, I refer to
www.worldwidewords.org/articles/aluminium.htm, which states --
"The metal was named by the English chemist Sir Humphry Davy [who] made a
bit of a mess of naming this new element, at first spelling it alumium (this
was in 1807) then changing it to aluminum, and finally settling on aluminium
in 1812. His classically educated scientific colleagues preferred aluminium
right from the start, because it had more of a classical ring, and chimed
harmoniously with many other elements whose names ended in -ium, like
potassium, sodium, and magnesium, all of which had been named by Davy.
The spelling in -um continued in occasional use in Britain for a while,
though that in -ium soon predominated. In the USA, the position was more
complicated. Noah Webster's Dictionary of 1828 has only aluminum, though the
standard spelling among US chemists throughout most of the nineteenth
century was aluminium; it was the preferred version in The Century
Dictionary of 1889 and is the only spelling given in the Webster Unabridged
Dictionary of 1913. Searches in an archive of American newspapers show a
most interesting shift. Up to the 1890s, both spellings appear in rough
parity, though with the -ium version slightly the more common, but after
about 1895 that reverses quite substantially, with the decade starting in
1900 having the -um spelling about twice as common as the alternative; in
the following decade the -ium spelling crashes to a few hundred compared to
half a million examples of -um.
It's clear that the shift in the USA from -ium to -um took place
progressively over a period starting in about 1895, when the metal began to
be widely available and the word started to be needed in popular writing. It
is easy to imagine journalists turning for confirmation to Webster's
Dictionary, still the most influential work at that time, and adopting its
spelling. The official change in the US to the -um spelling happened quite
late: the American Chemical Society only adopted it in 1925, though this was
clearly in response to the popular shift that had already taken place. The
International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) officially
standardised on aluminium in 1990, though this has done nothing, of course,
to change the way people in the US spell it for day to day purposes."
If you've read this far, note the last sentence.
Not that I care all that much, you understand; mI was just filling in time.
P
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Will Dockery
> >On Jan 21, 12:50 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>>> On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
> > > His death is getting almost no
> > > > press coverage.
As I wrote below, Henry Conley didn't even know until we told him in
the Green Room while assembling last night's band. In dact, I don't
think /anyone/ knew about his death except for Mallard.
> > Yeah, unfortunatly (for John Stewart, who won't see it) the next, last
> > record will probably get a big promotion, "the late great" and all that...
> > but good for the fans and maybe new ones.
>
> Yeah. I've thought about that. You know, one of my secret agendas for
> Playgrounds was to help promote John Stewart - through CD reviews, an
> interview, general news, etc. etc. Now, though, I feel as, "what's the
> point?" I mean, I'm not saying it's /pointless/ now, but it just hurts
> to write about him now. I certainly want to print news on his last CD
> and it's hopeful release.
>
> I just wish I had not waited so long to start...
Deadlines come up so fast, it seems. Get a column in and think I have
a whole month to think up a good topic for the next one, next thing I
know I'm doen tyo the wire, writing a column ten minutes before Vickie
has to turn it in. Today's her birthday, btw.
> > Gotta run pretty soon for the Loft, to catch Mallard's set... hoping he'll
> > do some Stewart cover or two, and I know he tries to go on as soon as
> > possible, and to have a meeting with Henry to see what he wants for a set
> > tonight... a good chance he has some JS material in mind, perhaps something
> > really early, maybe even "Daydream Believer"... that wou;d be pretty cool,
> > I've had the words engrained in my brain for 40 years now... heh.
>
> Yeah, but you know, the correct lyrics for Daydream Believer were "Now
> you know how FUNKY I can be..." They wouldn't let Davey Jones sing
> funky, though - so it became "happy."
That seemed to happen a lot in those days... either change an
"offensive" word or get bumped from the playlist. Ed Sullivan was
infamous for these tactics on his show, making Jagger change his
lyrics to "Let's Spend /Some Time/ Together" and Jim Morrison to "Girl
we couldn't get much /better/" or something like that. Dylan refused
to make changes and was off the Sullivan show for the duration of the
series, I think.
That song always takes me back to a few months in time to 1982 when I
was in Atlanta in love (secretly, but that story must remain told in
the poetry... I need to bring some of that back out, all that was
before the internet, when I printed chapbooks of comix & poetry and
was involved in the snail mail small press network. There are actually
a few of these for sale online, I recently noticed) with a girl named
Jean who loved the Monkees, which at the time was quite "old hat".
Interesting times, the stuff for "daydreams" themselves.
Now, with Gene-O in the group, the song would take on a different
humorous meaning.
> So, did you do "Daydream Believer?" Or any other Stewart? I would love
> to see Brian do a Stewart cover, but it probably won't even cross his
> mind...
No, Conley didn't even know about Stewart's death until that moment,
and Mallard said he didn't because he felt he wouldn't be able to do
the songs justice with a cover.
--
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
"The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Will Dockery-Dennis Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
Robbie Wright
> "Robbie Wright" wrote
>
> > >On Jan 21, 12:50 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
> >>> On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
> > > > His death is getting almost no
> > > > > press coverage.
>
> As I wrote below, Henry Conley didn't even know until we told him in
> the Green Room while assembling last night's band. In dact, I don't
> think /anyone/ knew about his death except for Mallard.
Yeah. Mallard told Jordan the other night. Jordan actually knew who
John Stewart was. I think his Mom is a Stewart fan, which is pretty
cool.
Yeah - I've had that before. For a while I had been writing two months
ahead - but a fun little computer crash stopped that!! Lost all my
unreleased articles. So, now, I just write every month. There's always
some new band coming to town or something of the sort that is worthy
of an interview, though. I've almost totally stopped writing articles.
Now it's just interviews. Although I have done a few CD reviews
lately. By the way... did you ever hear that Killers' song that
featured Lou Reed?
>
> > > Gotta run pretty soon for the Loft, to catch Mallard's set... hoping he'll
> > > do some Stewart cover or two, and I know he tries to go on as soon as
> > > possible, and to have a meeting with Henry to see what he wants for a set
> > > tonight... a good chance he has some JS material in mind, perhaps something
> > > really early, maybe even "Daydream Believer"... that wou;d be pretty cool,
> > > I've had the words engrained in my brain for 40 years now... heh.
>
> > Yeah, but you know, the correct lyrics for Daydream Believer were "Now
> > you know how FUNKY I can be..." They wouldn't let Davey Jones sing
> > funky, though - so it became "happy."
>
> That seemed to happen a lot in those days... either change an
> "offensive" word or get bumped from the playlist. Ed Sullivan was
> infamous for these tactics on his show, making Jagger change his
> lyrics to "Let's Spend /Some Time/ Together" and Jim Morrison to "Girl
> we couldn't get much /better/" or something like that. Dylan refused
> to make changes and was off the Sullivan show for the duration of the
> series, I think.
Yeah. It's like the BBC and The Beatles music and alleged drug
references. They also banned Lennon's "Cold Turkey," even though it
was "anti-drug," as Lennon put it, simply because it made references
it was banned. I can list of from memory a lot of The Beatles' songs
that were banned from the radio due to alleged drug references.
Speaking of The Beatles - have you heard of the new Beatles' LOVE
album? It's pretty cool.
>
> That song always takes me back to a few months in time to 1982 when I
> was in Atlanta in love (secretly, but that story must remain told in
> the poetry... I need to bring some of that back out, all that was
> before the internet, when I printed chapbooks of comix & poetry and
> was involved in the snail mail small press network. There are actually
> a few of these for sale online, I recently noticed) with a girl named
> Jean who loved the Monkees, which at the time was quite "old hat".
> Interesting times, the stuff for "daydreams" themselves.
That is interesting! A while back you had talked of showing me one of
your old chapbooks... I'd still like to see them. Maybe I could do
some photographs of you with one of them - that might be kinda neat.
>
> Now, with Gene-O in the group, the song would take on a different
> humorous meaning.
>
> > So, did you do "Daydream Believer?" Or any other Stewart? I would love
> > to see Brian do a Stewart cover, but it probably won't even cross his
> > mind...
>
> No, Conley didn't even know about Stewart's death until that moment,
> and Mallard said he didn't because he felt he wouldn't be able to do
> the songs justice with a cover.
Yeah - I figured that might be the case, with Mallard. I bet Brent
could do some killer John Stewart covers, if he was so inclined to.
John Stewart was a finger-picker, too, and Brent's guitar sometimes
sounds alot like Stewart's playing. But he doesn't know any Stewart -
except for maybe Daydream Believer...
--
Robbie Wright
Playgrounds Magazine - Reporter/Writer
www.myspace.com/civilianrobbie
>
> --
> "Ozone Stigmata" by Will Dockery-Henry Conley (video):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>
> "The Ride (Combat Zone)" by Will Dockery-Dennis Beck:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfl_7KvFcc
>
>
>
Will Dockery
>>On Jan 21, 12:50 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>>> On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
> > > > > His death is getting almost no
> > > > > > press coverage.
>
> > As I wrote below, Henry Conley didn't even know until we told him in
> > the Green Room while assembling last night's band. In dact, I don't
> > think /anyone/ knew about his death except for Mallard.
>
> Yeah. Mallard told Jordan the other night. Jordan actually knew who
> John Stewart was. I think his Mom is a Stewart fan, which is pretty
> cool.
Jordan's mom, Beth, is great, gently sarcastic and sharp... a perfect
match for Dennis. She warmed my cockles when we first met and she said
I looked like George Clooney, and I said that watching the (then
current) film "Perfect Storm" made me want to get on a sailboat and
ride off into imortality... heh.
Like Dennis, she seems to have that encyclopediac familiarity with all
manner of pop-culture obscurity... speaking of which, have you checked
out Dennis Beck's new barrel-house blues on MySpace, "Satan's Mule-
Train" or something like that? He's gonna have Gene Woolfolk doing
some crazyhouse western saloon rinky-tink piano on it.
No, I keep forgetting to go to the "K" section when I'm in the record
store... soon, maybe today, if I make it by Best Buy.
I did see they're putting out remastered versions of Reed's older
1970s work, with bonus tracks... Coney Island Baby, Transformer, all
the good stuff.
> > > > Gotta run pretty soon for the Loft, to catch Mallard's set... hoping he'll
> > > > do some Stewart cover or two, and I know he tries to go on as soon as
> > > > possible, and to have a meeting with Henry to see what he wants for a set
> > > > tonight... a good chance he has some JS material in mind, perhaps something
> > > > really early, maybe even "Daydream Believer"... that wou;d be pretty cool,
> > > > I've had the words engrained in my brain for 40 years now... heh.
>
> > > Yeah, but you know, the correct lyrics for Daydream Believer were "Now
> > > you know how FUNKY I can be..." They wouldn't let Davey Jones sing
> > > funky, though - so it became "happy."
>
> > That seemed to happen a lot in those days... either change an
> > "offensive" word or get bumped from the playlist. Ed Sullivan was
> > infamous for these tactics on his show, making Jagger change his
> > lyrics to "Let's Spend /Some Time/ Together" and Jim Morrison to "Girl
> > we couldn't get much /better/" or something like that. Dylan refused
> > to make changes and was off the Sullivan show for the duration of the
> > series, I think.
>
> Yeah. It's like the BBC and The Beatles music and alleged drug
> references. They also banned Lennon's "Cold Turkey," even though it
> was "anti-drug," as Lennon put it, simply because it made references
> it was banned. I can list of from memory a lot of The Beatles' songs
> that were banned from the radio due to alleged drug references.
Way back to when people thought they were singing "I get HIGH!" on "I
Wanna Hold Your Hand"... legend has it Dylan smoked their first joint
with them, which had Ringo falling around laughing, and Lennon &
McCartney pigging out on doughnuts or something like that.
> Speaking of The Beatles - have you heard of the new Beatles' LOVE
> album? It's pretty cool.
No, I've thought about it, but keep setting it down... I've still yet
to hear the /stripped down/ release of Let It Be... one of these days
when I'm flush with cash, or find a good used copy...
> > That song always takes me back to a few months in time to 1982 when I
> > was in Atlanta in love (secretly, but that story must remain told in
> > the poetry... I need to bring some of that back out, all that was
> > before the internet, when I printed chapbooks of comix & poetry and
> > was involved in the snail mail small press network. There are actually
> > a few of these for sale online, I recently noticed) with a girl named
> > Jean who loved the Monkees, which at the time was quite "old hat".
> > Interesting times, the stuff for "daydreams" themselves.
>
> That is interesting! A while back you had talked of showing me one of
> your old chapbooks... I'd still like to see them. Maybe I could do
> some photographs of you with one of them - that might be kinda neat.
I have a link for the old friend from those small press zine days
selling a few copies of that stuff, in an effort to keep this on topic
to John Stewart, I'm going now to post that on another thread... check
"Stopwatch by Will Dockery" in a few minutes and I'll repost it there.
> > Now, with Gene-O in the group, the song would take on a different
> > humorous meaning.
>
> > > So, did you do "Daydream Believer?" Or any other Stewart? I would love
> > > to see Brian do a Stewart cover, but it probably won't even cross his
> > > mind...
>
> > No, Conley didn't even know about Stewart's death until that moment,
> > and Mallard said he didn't because he felt he wouldn't be able to do
> > the songs justice with a cover.
>
> Yeah - I figured that might be the case, with Mallard. I bet Brent
> could do some killer John Stewart covers, if he was so inclined to.
> John Stewart was a finger-picker, too, and Brent's guitar sometimes
> sounds alot like Stewart's playing. But he doesn't know any Stewart -
> except for maybe Daydream Believer...
Good reason to keep his name alive, pretty much everyone needs to
study him, and really hopefully a record company or two will be ready
to put out some "legacy" volumes, since they tend to want to cash in
on the death of an artist.
OB
wrote:
> Thanks, but I already knew what a coup de grace is, so assume you were
> telling any third party readers. And for my part, I've only ever heard "coo
> de grah" from Americans. (How strange.) Brits tend to pronounce French
> words in a more-or-less French way.
By "more-or-less French" I assume you mean O Level French (the dialect
popularised by Miles K.), as in, e.g. "Oh pair!" (not a true vocative,
despite appearances) and "purty pwah" (for petits pois, as frozen by
Tescos) and "cremm de lark cremm" (Miss Jean Brodie). I haven't really
noticed whether the Americans balls up French pronunciation worse than
the Brits, but they do seem to be more respectful with the standard
French stress pattern, saying "gar-AGE" rather than "garridge", and (I
think) "DebussY" rather than the Brit version of the composer's name
which comes out as "de BYOO sea". I'm not sure whether the Americans
go for cafË or CAFé (as in the UK) but I'm pretty sure they haven't
shortened it to "caff" (as in "transport caff"). Their perFUME and
their disconcertingly aitchless herbs are also truer to their
origins.
It could be the Americans you heard were actually saying "cul de
gras", possibly after having just received a pizza delivery somewhere
in Georgia.
OB
Robbie Wright
That's true about Dylan. Lennon said that everyone found The Beatles
extremely annoying that night, because no-one could talk to them. They
kept giggling.
>
> > Speaking of The Beatles - have you heard of the new Beatles' LOVE
> > album? It's pretty cool.
>
> No, I've thought about it, but keep setting it down... I've still yet
> to hear the /stripped down/ release of Let It Be... one of these days
> when I'm flush with cash, or find a good used copy...
Yeah, I really want to get the stripped down Let It Be. The way it was
meant to be. LOVE is really good. It's anything but stripped down.
George and Giles Martin remixed those songs... it's really great!
Yeah, that would be really nice if they would do something like that.
Appleseed Recordings has been releasing his albums nowadays. Of
course, he's also been releasing some himself through his own label,
"Neon Dreams." There have actually been several John Stewart "Greatest
Hits" CDs. One of them was called "The Earth Rider - The Essential
John Stewart 1964 - 1979." That one was probably the best. The other
one that I know of was a so called "Introduction To" CD, but it was
really just California Bloodlines and Willard on one CD, which had
been done before. Although - with this one it was complete. On the
earlier release of those two albums on one CD they had cut two songs.
I reviewed that CD for Playgrounds. Oh! The BEST Stewart Compilation
CD was "American Originals." It had songs from the Trio days, some
from his first post-Trio album with Buffy Ford, and more from his solo
albums.
Actually, if you look on Amazon.com there is a lot of early John
Stewart material readily available. It's his later work that is harder
to find.
Robbie Wright
>
>
> No, Conley didn't even know about Stewart's death until that moment,
> and Mallard said he didn't because he felt he wouldn't be able to do
> the songs justice with a cover.
>
Roseanne Cash put up a letter about John Stewart. She was a good
friend of his.
http://www.rosannecash.com/monthly.html
--
Robbie Wright
Playgrounds Magazine - Reporter/Writer
www.myspace.com/civilianrobbie- Hide quoted text -
Will Dockery
>On Jan 21, 12:50 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>> On 1/20/08, Robbie Wright wrote:
>
> > > > > > > His death is getting almost no
> > > > > > > > press coverage.
>
> > > > > > > > own Top 40 hit, "Gold" which featured Stevie Nicks and Lindsay
> > > > > > > > Buckingham.
>
> > > > > > Allegedly, and I do stress allegedly, Lindsey Buckingham is on the
> > > > > > album John Stewart recorded just before his death, that hasn't been
> > > > > > released. One obit reported that. However, I had not heard anything
> > > > > > about it before reading that obit, and it seems like that would have
> > > > > > been something that would have been known on Bloodlines already. I
> > > > > > hope to, sometime down the road, contact Dave and ask him about
> > > > > > Stewart's last album's details and whatnot. I would love to do that
> > > > > > now and add it to my article, but I feel as if I should wait out of
> > > > > > respect.
>
> > > > > > Trio, he was planning on working with John Denver. They recorded
> > > > > > several songs, but Denver's voice over powered John's and they
> > > > > > couldn't sing together like was planned. John Denver later song on
> > > > > > Stewart's "Survivor's" off of "Canon's In The Rain." Stewart still had
> > > > > > the tapes that he and Denver recorded together, but they had not been
> > > > > > released to my knowledge. John released to a fan and friend of his, a
> > > > > > box full of his old demos. Most of them are available as various
> > > > > > bootleg CDs that have been passed around on Bloodlines. The quality is
> > > > > > really good on most of the recordings, too. In fact Stewart's
> > > > > > officially released "Wires From The Bunker" was a compilation CD made
> > > > > > up of demos from the "Gold" era of John's recording. I have actually
> > > > > > an early demo of "Gold," which is pretty interesting.
>
> > > > > > John Stewart also recorded a song with Johnny Cash, "Get Rhythm," but
> > > > > > the two recording their vocal parts separately and were never in the same
> > > > > > studio together.
>
> > > > > you know how FUNKY I can be..." They wouldn't let Davey Jones sing
> > > > > funky, though - so it became "happy."
>
> > > references. They also banned Lennon's "Cold Turkey," even though it
> > > was "anti-drug," as Lennon put it, simply because it made references
> > > it was banned. I can list of from memory a lot of The Beatles' songs
> > > that were banned from the radio due to alleged drug references.
>
> > Way back to when people thought they were singing "I get HIGH!" on "I
> > Wanna Hold Your Hand"... legend has it Dylan smoked their first joint
> > with them, which had Ringo falling around laughing, and Lennon &
> > McCartney pigging out on doughnuts or something like that.
>
> That's true about Dylan. Lennon said that everyone found The Beatles
> extremely annoying that night, because no-one could talk to them. They
> kept giggling.
>
> meant to be.
I imagine it'll sound like the performances from the Let It Be film,
unavailable for decades, now. I saw it when it first came out, in
1970, I think.
Sat through several showings one day in the balcony of the old theatre
near where Rhino's once was... the Bradley.
> LOVE is really good. It's anything but stripped down.
> George and Giles Martin remixed those songs... it's really great!
Actually I /did/ hear some bits of that over the Barnes & Noble store
speakers a while back... seemed worth a try, but I hesitate since John
and George were not around to sign off on it...
> > > That is interesting! A while back you had talked of showing me one of
> > > your old chapbooks... I'd still like to see them. Maybe I could do
> > > some photographs of you with one of them - that might be kinda neat.
>
> > I have a link for the old friend from those small press zine days
> > selling a few copies of that stuff, in an effort to keep this on topic
> > to John Stewart, I'm going now to post that on another thread... check
> > "Stopwatch by Will Dockery" in a few minutes and I'll repost it there.
Just reposted it on that thread, check it out if you get the chance.
> > Good reason to keep his name alive, pretty much everyone needs to
> > study him, and really hopefully a record company or two will be ready
> > to put out some "legacy" volumes, since they tend to want to cash in
> > on the death of an artist.
>
> Yeah, that would be really nice if they would do something like that.
> Appleseed Recordings has been releasing his albums nowadays. Of
> course, he's also been releasing some himself through his own label,
> "Neon Dreams." There have actually been several John Stewart "Greatest
> Hits" CDs. One of them was called "The Earth Rider - The Essential
> John Stewart 1964 - 1979." That one was probably the best. The other
> one that I know of was a so called "Introduction To" CD, but it was
> really just California Bloodlines and Willard on one CD, which had
> been done before. Although - with this one it was complete. On the
> earlier release of those two albums on one CD they had cut two songs.
> I reviewed that CD for Playgrounds. Oh! The BEST Stewart Compilation
> CD was "American Originals." It had songs from the Trio days, some
> from his first post-Trio album with Buffy Ford, and more from his solo
> albums.
>
> Actually, if you look on Amazon.com there is a lot of early John
> Stewart material readily available. It's his later work that is harder
> to find.
Good that the stuff is out there online...but there's nothing like
seeing someone worthwhile on the shelves of the local store, where new
listeners can discover it.
--
"Mirror Twins" by Dockery-Fowler:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
"Ozone Stigmata" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
> --
Robbie Wright
That's cool! I've never seen it. I have "A HARD DAY'S NIGHT" on DVD. I
really want to see "MAGICAL MYSTERY TOUR." I have the record with the
storybook in it, which is pretty rare.
>
> Sat through several showings one day in the balcony of the old theatre
> near where Rhino's once was... the Bradley.
>
> > LOVE is really good. It's anything but stripped down.
> > George and Giles Martin remixed those songs... it's really great!
>
> Actually I /did/ hear some bits of that over the Barnes & Noble store
> speakers a while back... seemed worth a try, but I hesitate since John
> and George were not around to sign off on it...
George actually did sign off on it before his death. It was actually
him that got the process for the LOVE CD started. That's all talked
about (briefly) in the CD booklet. He just never heard the finished
product. However, Paul, Ringo, Olivia, and Yoko did sign off on the
finished product. Paul and Ringo apparently really liked it.
>
> > > > That is interesting! A while back you had talked of showing me one of
> > > > your old chapbooks... I'd still like to see them. Maybe I could do
> > > > some photographs of you with one of them - that might be kinda neat.
>
> > > I have a link for the old friend from those small press zine days
> > > selling a few copies of that stuff, in an effort to keep this on topic
> > > to John Stewart, I'm going now to post that on another thread... check
> > > "Stopwatch by Will Dockery" in a few minutes and I'll repost it there.
>
> Just reposted it on that thread, check it out if you get the chance.
Cool... I'll be over there in a little while.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Good reason to keep his name alive, pretty much everyone needs to
> > > study him, and really hopefully a record company or two will be ready
> > > to put out some "legacy" volumes, since they tend to want to cash in
> > > on the death of an artist.
>
> > Yeah, that would be really nice if they would do something like that.
> > Appleseed Recordings has been releasing his albums nowadays. Of
> > course, he's also been releasing some himself through his own label,
> > "Neon Dreams." There have actually been several John Stewart "Greatest
> > Hits" CDs. One of them was called "The Earth Rider - The Essential
> > John Stewart 1964 - 1979." That one was probably the best. The other
> > one that I know of was a so called "Introduction To" CD, but it was
> > really just California Bloodlines and Willard on one CD, which had
> > been done before. Although - with this one it was complete. On the
> > earlier release of those two albums on one CD they had cut two songs.
> > I reviewed that CD for Playgrounds. Oh! The BEST Stewart Compilation
> > CD was "American Originals." It had songs from the Trio days, some
> > from his first post-Trio album with Buffy Ford, and more from his solo
> > albums.
>
> > Actually, if you look on Amazon.com there is a lot of early John
> > Stewart material readily available. It's his later work that is harder
> > to find.
>
> Good that the stuff is out there online...but there's nothing like
> seeing someone worthwhile on the shelves of the local store, where new
> listeners can discover it.
>
Yeah. I think Judybugs might have some JS records... but it's probably
just the standard copy of "Bombs Away Dream Babies," which is good to
introduce to new fans.
Will Dockery
"Robbie Wright" wrote:
>On Jan 24, 2:26 pm, Will Dockery wrote:
>
> No, Conley didn't even know about Stewart's death until that moment,
> and Mallard said he didn't because he felt he wouldn't be able to do
> the songs justice with a cover.
Roseanne Cash put up a letter about John Stewart. She was a good
friend of his.
http://www.rosannecash.com/monthly.html
I'll go have a look...
I notice that some Bible thumping hacker is forging everybody's names and
posting dense gobbledegook today... boring stuff...
--
"Mirror Twins" by Dockery-Fowler:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
"Ozone Stigmata" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
--
Robbie Wright
Speaking of Vickie (Carson)'s Birthday - I just got the word from Will
Dockery that there will be a live webcast of Vickie's B-Day bash at
SOHO with the killer band Basic Rock Outfit (aka) B.R.O.
I'm told the webcast is held at http://www.stickam.com/member/startchart.do
I just got the message a couple of minutes ago, so if it's not too
late check it out! Basic Rock Outfit is a great band. They've just
release their CD which is currently being sold at Best Buy, Target,
etc...
I'm actually supposed to interview B.R.O. at some point... that is if
Vickie doesn't beat me to it! ;-) In fact my friend over at ROCK 103,
CHOAS, was supposed to interview B.R.O. on the radio today...
Will Dockery
>"Will Dockery" wrote:
I finally found a DVD copy of Magical Mystery Tour a couple of years
ago at Movie Stop for some rediculously low price, some sort of Euro
import, really, the best part of the film was the performance of the
Bonzo Dog Band doing "Death Cab For Cutie"... beside all the great
Beatles stuff, of course... they really did invent the MTV promo
video, it seems. I wound up giving the copy to my daughter, thinking
that there'd be more available... not once have I seen it for sale
again.
> > Sat through several showings one day in the balcony of the old theatre
> > near where Rhino's once was... the Bradley.
>
> > > LOVE is really good. It's anything but stripped down.
> > > George and Giles Martin remixed those songs... it's really great!
>
> > Actually I /did/ hear some bits of that over the Barnes & Noble store
> > speakers a while back... seemed worth a try, but I hesitate since John
> > and George were not around to sign off on it...
>
> George actually did sign off on it before his death. It was actually
> him that got the process for the LOVE CD started. That's all talked
> about (briefly) in the CD booklet. He just never heard the finished
> product. However, Paul, Ringo, Olivia, and Yoko did sign off on the
> finished product. Paul and Ringo apparently really liked it.
>
> > > > > That is interesting! A while back you had talked of showing me one of
> > > > > your old chapbooks... I'd still like to see them. Maybe I could do
> > > > > some photographs of you with one of them - that might be kinda neat.
>
> > > > I have a link for the old friend from those small press zine days
> > > > selling a few copies of that stuff, in an effort to keep this on topic
> > > > to John Stewart, I'm going now to post that on another thread... check
> > > > "Stopwatch by Will Dockery" in a few minutes and I'll repost it there.
>
> > Just reposted it on that thread, check it out if you get the chance.
>
> Cool... I'll be over there in a little while.
Here it is, in case the post gets buried under all the Usenet crap
posts:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/b28841f76001b0ce
I heard that JBs had stopped selling CDs... or did they buy out Asam
brown's Flipside stock, which I actually heard folded. The FYE outlet
in the Mall actually seems to have the best selection of fairly
obscure (for here) stuff... about the only place to get many Lou Reed
CDs around here. BTW, I looked at the Killers CD with the LR cameo
tonight at Wal-Mart, but didn't buy it yet.
--
"Mirror Twins" by Dockery-Fowler:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
"Ozone Stigmata" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
> --
Dennis M. Hammes
Well, blow me down. I'm spoZe to be trained in IUPAC nomenclature.
Which, BTW, has suffered a severe decline academically ("in the
U.S.") since my generation.
My Webster's Unabridged was published well post-shift (1956), and the
preface proudly stated that its authority was "common useage."
In the U.S., that was defined by ALCOA (Aluminum Corporation of
America) and their myriad ads in papers and radio, as you note.
So the Weast and all U.S. texts have "aluminum."
The Tom Lehrer song (~1958) further fixed "aluminum" in the ears of
the nation ("aluminium" has too many syllables), and MPR still plays
it about six times a year.
One wonders what would have happened if Flanders and Swann had
done such a thing first.
Tnx.
(Really. I hate being wrong, even when I'm merely being provincial.)
Dennis M. Hammes
If you think the Brit bilge French, you should listen to Quebec radio.
I had the clever misfortune to do that during my schooling, and
caused my French prof to crack three fillings.
OB
Educated Quebecers actually speak two dialects of French: Joual (the
preferred vernacular) and Standard French (the one you use to get on
the radio). Sounds like your French prof might have needed some bridge
work if he'd stayed for the Joual. I have a recording on cassette
(courtesy of a Usenet friend) of the greatest hits of RBO ("Rock et
Belles Oreilles"), a satirical TV-show-spinoff band who write songs
poking fun at, inter alia, the police, religious gurus, disco music,
government subsidies for large families ("Repeuplons"), country
bumpkins, ageing Parisian pop stars, and social-climbing Quebecers who
try to sound like Anglos ("I want to pogne"). Finding that French
(well, sort of) could be a vehicle for humour was a revelation in
itself.
> --
> -------(m+
> ~/:o)_|
> Gresham's Law is not worth a Continental.http://scrawlmark.org
"L'enfer, c'est Jean-Paul Sartre"
-- Les Autres
Will Dockery
>"Will Dockery" wrote:
I'm not sure if it was Glen and Tony (from downtown/Gorilla Guitars), SoHo,
or the band itself attempting the "live broadcast", but it didn't turn out
to be available from the link I was given... it may be on the site now, but
it may take searching the site for "B.R.O." to find the right location and
link.
Perhaps Glen Giles has the info on his MySpace page by now, also.
--
"Will Dockery...The authority which derives from having recorded the
/definitive/ version of "Zaaoorrooo", with that matchless delivery for which
it is rightly famous."
-Gerard Ian Lewis
"Mirror Twins" by Dockery-Fowler:
http://www.myspace.com/shadowvilleallstars
"Ozone Stigmata" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
> --
Will Dockery
Really Real wrote:
"Alas, the death call of 2008 begins. Where will it end?
John Stewart was a very unique singer-songwriter, who treaded the line
between art and schlock very interestingly. On the liner notes to his pretty
dismal 80's album, Punch the Big Guy, they call John the "Godfather of the
American singer-songwriter movement.
John Stewart first appeared as the savior of the Kingston Trio, after Dave
Guard left. Who'd have guessed the Kingston Trio would continue to
have a meaningful career with a new lead singer who sounded nothing like
the old guys? I know the name "Kingston Trio" conjures up all kinds of
ridicule for most Bob Dylan fans, but Dylan never felt that way about them.
Having John Stewart rescue the Lovin' Spoonful after John Sebastian left,
writing and singing on the big hit Never Going Back, was another good moment
in folk-pop music. Or am I mistaken about John singing on the track?
After that, John became a bit of an underground phenomenon, with songs
like July, You're a Woman, and California Bloodlines. Yet, I see, he also
wrote Daydream Believer for the Monkees.
I remember getting a kick out his song, Mucky Truckee River on his album,
Signals Through the Glass, with his future wife, Buffy Ford. The song seemed
like a parody of an arty folk song, the kind of song that Dylan should
never have inspired.
But for his finest moments, John Stewart was someone to fondly remember.
And for me, that line between art and schlock is where so many interesting
songs exist."
Bobby M wrote:
"I have a rather extensive collection of John Stewart recordings and I
wouldn't categorize any of it as schlock. Sure, he wrote some great stuff &
he wrote some weak stuff, but who hasn't? I guess his version of "Daydream
Believer" could be considered schlock but it was basically a parody of the
song since he recorded it after the Monkees had a hit with it.
>On the liner notes to his pretty dismal 80's album, Punch the Big Guy, they
>call John the "Godfather of the American singer-songwriter movement.
Someone took some literary liberties, but that's typical fluff although I
guess technically they might not be that far off. The catch here is they
used the word "movement" so they're talking about the singer-songwriters of
the 60's-70's. So people like Hank Williams, Jimmie Rodgers, A.P. Carter,
Woody Guthrie aren't up for consideration of "Godfather" in this case.
> Having John Stewart rescue the Lovin' Spoonful after John Sebastian left,
> writing and singing on the big hit Never Going Back, was another good
> moment in folk-pop music. Or am I mistaken about John singing on the
> track?
Stewart had nothing to do with the record other than having written the
song.
For a little Bob content: Stewart's song, "Durango" from 1973's album,
"Cannons in the Rain" is about the movie "Billy the Kid". According to the
song, Stewart was up for the part of Billy and in the song he tries to
convince Peckinpaugh that he'd "make the best Billy the Kid of them all".
> You think John recorded Daydream Believer as a parody? And I thought I had
> an overly ironic view of things.
> I suspect John had a greater appreciation of the Monkees than you have.
Can I assume from your above comment that you have not heard Stewart's
version from "Lonesome Picker Rides Again"? Maybe parody is not the right
word; but he's definitely poking fun at the song. I didn't say he wrote it
as a parody, but he surely wasn't serious when he recorded it.
Bo Dark wrote:
"Onstage in Menlo Park or somewhere in those years, I heard him do it
something like,
Wake up, Sleepy Jean;
How much have you seen?
You're not a daydream believer,
just an old closet queen.
Bobby M wrote:
"That's very similar to how he sang it on the album, "Lonesome Picker...".
He sang the main song in a more serious tone, but he tagged on several lines
such as the above at the end."
John Stewart as Pat Garrett? It almost happened!
Bo Dark wrote:
"John Stewart should be mentioned as at least a tangent in a film group. He
was almost a star. I heard him talk about his time in Durango while they
were filming "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid" and he
was down there to play Billy, but lost out to Kristofferson, as you
know.This was during one of his performances in Northern California,
and probably he figured had he scored the part, he wouldn't have to be doing
no gigs in obscure digs in no Northern California."
Bobby M wrote:
" Stewart's song, "Durango," is about being turned down for the part of
Billy the Kid. Here are a few quotes from Stewart on the subject:
''I was gonna do a movie with Sam Peckinpah called 'Pat Garrett and Billy
the Kid.' Went in and met the casting director, who said "You'll be really
good in the part.'' Went in and met the producer, Gordan Carroll, and we
got along very well. And I really wanted to play Billy the Kid but he said,
'we need someone younger, more experienced.' And Kris Kristofferson got the
part.
"There was another part. Billy's friend, a guy named Alias, and the part
was mine. It was mine, but they said, 'you gotta go,' so Bob Dylan got the
part and that was that, that's the story." (John Stewart Zoo World 24.5.73)
(above quotes taken from:
http://domain1620281.sites.fasthosts.com/omaha/or1/or1_02.html)
Robbie Wright
> Updates from other parts of usenet:
>
> http://www.chillywinds.com
Another great Stewart site is run by my friend, Bob Eliot. www.bitemyfoot.co.uk
I believe some of the quotes below were taken from his site...?
>
> Really Real wrote:
>
> "Alas, the death call of 2008 begins. Where will it end?
>
> John Stewart was a very unique singer-songwriter, who treaded the line
> between art and schlock very interestingly. On the liner notes to his pretty
> dismal 80's album, Punch the Big Guy, they call John the "Godfather of the
> American singer-songwriter movement.
>
John Stewart is credited with starting the Americana genre.
> John Stewart first appeared as the savior of the Kingston Trio, after Dave
> Guard left. Who'd have guessed the Kingston Trio would continue to
> have a meaningful career with a new lead singer who sounded nothing like
> the old guys? I know the name "Kingston Trio" conjures up all kinds of
> ridicule for most Bob Dylan fans, but Dylan never felt that way about them.
>
> Having John Stewart rescue the Lovin' Spoonful after John Sebastian left,
> writing and singing on the big hit Never Going Back, was another good moment
> in folk-pop music. Or am I mistaken about John singing on the track?
>
Never Goin' Back was on Stewart's California Bloodlines first. (I
believe)
> After that, John became a bit of an underground phenomenon, with songs
> like July, You're a Woman, and California Bloodlines. Yet, I see, he also
> wrote Daydream Believer for the Monkees.
July, You're A Woman is a great track! July and Mother Country were
two tracks that John Stewart played all throughout his career.
>
> I remember getting a kick out his song, Mucky Truckee River on his album,
> Signals Through the Glass, with his future wife, Buffy Ford. The song seemed
> like a parody of an arty folk song, the kind of song that Dylan should
> never have inspired.
>
> But for his finest moments, John Stewart was someone to fondly remember.
> And for me, that line between art and schlock is where so many interesting
> songs exist."
>
> Bobby M wrote:
>
> "I have a rather extensive collection of John Stewart recordings and I
> wouldn't categorize any of it as schlock. Sure, he wrote some great stuff &
> he wrote some weak stuff, but who hasn't? I guess his version of "Daydream
> Believer" could be considered schlock but it was basically a parody of the
> song since he recorded it after the Monkees had a hit with it.
>
Yeah, none of it's "schlock." He may have had some weaker stuff, but
none of it was schlock. If he had some schlock I would say that he
did, but he didn't. There are some of his songs that I don't really
care for - but they're all very good, over all.
> >On the liner notes to his pretty dismal 80's album, Punch the Big Guy, they
> >call John the "Godfather of the American singer-songwriter movement.
>
> Someone took some literary liberties, but that's typical fluff although I
> guess technically they might not be that far off. The catch here is they
> used the word "movement" so they're talking about the singer-songwriters of
> the 60's-70's. So people like Hank Williams, Jimmie Rodgers, A.P. Carter,
> Woody Guthrie aren't up for consideration of "Godfather" in this case.
>
> > Having John Stewart rescue the Lovin' Spoonful after John Sebastian left,
> > writing and singing on the big hit Never Going Back, was another good
> > moment in folk-pop music. Or am I mistaken about John singing on the
> > track?
>
> Stewart had nothing to do with the record other than having written the
> song.
>
> For a little Bob content: Stewart's song, "Durango" from 1973's album,
> "Cannons in the Rain" is about the movie "Billy the Kid". According to the
> song, Stewart was up for the part of Billy and in the song he tries to
> convince Peckinpaugh that he'd "make the best Billy the Kid of them all".
>
> > You think John recorded Daydream Believer as a parody? And I thought I had
> > an overly ironic view of things.
> > I suspect John had a greater appreciation of the Monkees than you have.
>
> Can I assume from your above comment that you have not heard Stewart's
> version from "Lonesome Picker Rides Again"? Maybe parody is not the right
> word; but he's definitely poking fun at the song. I didn't say he wrote it
> as a parody, but he surely wasn't serious when he recorded it.
I have a really neat old advertisement for the "Lonesome Picker Rides
Again" album... I need to upload the photo to MySpace or
Photobucket...
>
> Bo Dark wrote:
>
> "Onstage in Menlo Park or somewhere in those years, I heard him do it
> something like,
>
> Wake up, Sleepy Jean;
> How much have you seen?
> You're not a daydream believer,
> just an old closet queen.
>
> Bobby M wrote:
>
> "That's very similar to how he sang it on the album, "Lonesome Picker...".
> He sang the main song in a more serious tone, but he tagged on several lines
> such as the above at the end."
John's version of Daydream Believer is really lovely. A nice acoustic
- almost Western - tone to it. It does have the fun parts at the end.
A credit to the band and the "closet queen" joke. I believe the
version on "Lonesome Picker Rides Again" was recorded live.
I found a video online some years ago that was from a Japanese
television station about John Stewart. It was when he toured Japan.
They apparently LOVE Daydream Believer over there...
>
> John Stewart as Pat Garrett? It almost happened!
Yeah! I remember reading about this along time ago, but it slipped my
mind until just now! Great song...
DURANGO
John Stewart
© John Stewart
Cannons in the Rain (RCA, LSP 4827, 1973)
Gold (Wrasse Records, WRASS016, 2000)
I was talkin' to a man about a movie show
Oh, won't you take me to Durango
I could play that part just fine, you know
So won't you take me down to Mexico
Take me down, down, down
Won't you take me to Durango
Take me down, down, down
Oh, take me down to Mexico
I never saw old Peckinpah
I guess he forgot to call
I can understand using Rita's man
He'll be the best Billy Kid of them all
So they took him down, down, down
Ah, they took him to Durango
They took him down, down, down
Oh, took him down to Mexico
Now Billy the Kid, I know what you did
Got a postcard on my wall
They were sellin' around
The New Mexico Town
Where they lowered him down
And they took him down, down, down
Oh, they took him down in New Mexico
Down, down, down
Oh, shot him down in New Mexico
Now I was talking to a man about a movie show
Oh, won't you take me to Durango
I could play that part just fine, you know
Won't you take me down to Mexico
Ah take me down, down, down
Won't you take me to Durango
Take me down, down, down
Oh, take me down to Mexico
BobbyM
"Robbie Wright" <robbiegeo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11da6628-9943-4978...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 25, 11:56 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@knology.net> wrote:
> Updates from other parts of usenet:
>
> http://www.chillywinds.com
Another great Stewart site is run by my friend, Bob Eliot.
www.bitemyfoot.co.uk
I believe some of the quotes below were taken from his site...?
I reach that site through
http://domain1620281.sites.fasthosts.com/default.htm and I duly gave credit
where the quotes came from (see below). And yes, it is a great site for
info on John Stewart.
> " Stewart's song, "Durango," is about being turned down for the part of
> Billy the Kid. Here are a few quotes from Stewart on the subject:
>
> ''I was gonna do a movie with Sam Peckinpah called 'Pat Garrett and Billy
> the Kid.' Went in and met the casting director, who said "You'll be really
> good in the part.'' Went in and met the producer, Gordan Carroll, and we
> got along very well. And I really wanted to play Billy the Kid but he
> said,
> 'we need someone younger, more experienced.' And Kris Kristofferson got
> the
> part.
>
> "There was another part. Billy's friend, a guy named Alias, and the part
> was mine. It was mine, but they said, 'you gotta go,' so Bob Dylan got the
> part and that was that, that's the story." (John Stewart Zoo World
> 24.5.73)
>
> (above quotes taken
> from:http://domain1620281.sites.fasthosts.com/omaha/or1/or1_02.html)
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
Will Dockery
>
> In late 1969, after the moonlanding, he released a single called
> Armstrong - I heard it a couple of times on my local station, but
> never charted very high.
Amazing, that was John Stewart? I remember the lines and melody to that one
"...on that July afternoon,
when a man named Armstrong walked across the moon."
And like you wrote, same here, the song was played just a few times on the
local radio... and I haven't heard it since. Seems like it was right around
the same time oddities like "In The Year 2525" were popping up, getting
airplay then vanishing.
Armstrong
Black boy in Chicago
Playing in the street
Not near enough to wear
Not near enough to eat
Don't you know he saw it
On a July afternoon
He saw a man named Armstrong
Walk upon the moon
Young girl in Calcutta
Barely eight years old
The flies that swarm the market place
Will see she don't get old
Don't you know she heard it
On that July afternoon
She heard a man named Armstrong
Had walked upon the moon
She heard a man named Armstrong
Had walked upon the moon
The rivers are getting dirty
The wind is getting bad
War and hate are killing off
The only earth we have
But the world all stopped to watch it
On that July afternoon
To watch a man named Armstrong
Walk upon the moon
To watch a man named Armstrong
Walk upon the moon
To watch a man named Armstrong
Walk upon the moon
And I wonder if a long time ago
Somewhere in the universe
They watched a man named Adam
Walk upon the earth
-John Stewart
Aparently Nanci Griffith covered "Armstrong" at some point, since I found
these lyrics on her site:
http://www.nanci-griffith.com/lyrics/index.html
From: www.jerryosborne.com/3-27-00.htm
DEAR JERRY: I am in a quandary regarding a song from 1969. I have tried
many, many sources and keep coming up empty. This tune is driving me crazy,
and in turn now even my associates. You may be our last option.
This song refers to the Apollo 11 Moon Mission, and Neil Armstrong's first
step on the moon. The title may be "A Man Named Armstrong," but I may be
wrong about that.
-Darren in Australia
DEAR DARREN: I'm glad you came to me before you ran out of options
altogether.
The full title is just "Armstrong," and it is by John Stewart. Though not a
big hit, "Armstrong" did chart for a few weeks in August and September of
1969.
Exactly 10 years later, the summer of '79, John Stewart really struck gold
with "Gold," a Top 5 smash that earned John - you guessed it - a gold
record.
> Around 1979, he releaed the album 'Bombs Away Dream Babies' - that
> album was a big seller and the well known hit - "Gold". the song I
> really liked was "Midnight Wind (Come On Down Miranda)" with Stevie
> Nicks. The single "Lost Her In the sun" was also fairly popular.
> It's interesting to note that both 'Bombs Away Dream Babies' and the
> followup record, "Dream Babies Go To Hollywood" are both out of print
> on cd, even though the first one did pretty well in sales, not sure of
> the 2nd one. Also he had a short lived GH disc alsoout of print now.
> These discs are listed for ridculously high prices on Amazon - people
> have a right to name their own prices, but a cd like 'Bombs Away Dream
> Babies', that sold pretty well and had three solid hits on it should
> definitely be available on a reasonably priced cd. That's typical of
> the record companies and people will continue to fire up their
> file-sharing engines until things change.
>
> Mr. M
Will Dockery
"Robbie Wright" wrote
>On Jan 25, 11:56 pm, "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
> Updates from other parts of usenet:
>
> http://www.chillywinds.com
Another great Stewart site is run by my friend, Bob Eliot.
www.bitemyfoot.co.uk
Wikipedia's entry on John Stewart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stewart_%28musician%29
Since Wikipedia is an interactive format, edited by the traders, so any
details that need to be added, or mistakes changed, jump on in:
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John Stewart (September 5, 1939 - January 19, 2008) was an American
songwriter and singer, best-known for his contributions to the American folk
music movement of the early and mid 1960s while a member of The Kingston
Trio (1961-1967).
Contents [hide]
1 Early life
2 Musical evolution and career
3 The Kingston Trio years
4 Solo career, the post-Trio years
5 Later years
6 Death
7 References
8 External links
[edit] Early life
Stewart was the son of horse trainer, John S. Stewart, and his wife. He
spent his childhood and adolescence growing up in southern California,
living mostly in the cities of Pasadena and Claremont with his parents. He
graduated from Pomona Catholic High School, which at the time was a
coeducational school[1], in 1957. He demonstrated an early talent for music,
learning the guitar and banjo, and composing his first song, "Shrunken Head
Boogie," when he was just ten years old.
[edit] Musical evolution and career
Stewart's first venture into popular music was with a high school garage
band known as "Johnny Stewart and the Furies." Influenced by the reigning
icons of the day, Elvis Presley and Buddy Holly, the Furies toured southern
California colleges and coffee houses, releasing one single, "Rockin' Anna,"
which was a minor, regional hit.
Following the breakup of the Furies and a short period of time as a member
of The Woodsmen, Stewart teamed up with Gil Robbins (father of actor Tim
Robbins) and John Montgomery to form The Cumberland Three, a group patterned
after and heavily-influenced by the increasingly popular Kingston Trio. The
major accomplishment of The Cumberland Three was a two LP album set of Songs
from the Civil War, with each album containing a compilation of songs from
the Confederacy and the Union, respectively. In all, the Cumberland Three
released three albums, after which Stewart left the group to join the
Kingston Trio, replacing Trio founder Dave Guard, in 1961.
[edit] The Kingston Trio years
The Kingston Trio, one of the best-known and best-selling acts on the folk
music scene, was enjoying a lucrative recording and touring contract with
Capitol Records, with ten albums under their collective belts, when Stewart
joined them in 1961. They had emerged from the relatively crowded San
Francisco folk music culture in 1957, using a mixture of calypso, pop, and
folk styles, along with several forms of comedy, in their act. Relying on
new arrangements of folk music classics as well as some original
compositions, the Trio simultaneously earned their first gold record with
"Tom Dooley", while launching a major revival in folk music that would lead
to and influence the careers of Bob Dylan, Peter, Paul, & Mary, and John
Denver, among others.
When Dave Guard left the group to explore other musical directions, Stewart
was selected by remaining members Nick Reynolds and Bob Shane as his
successor, bringing with him his respected skills as a musician, composer,
and performer. The trio of Reynolds, Shane, and Stewart would record a dozen
albums together, taking the music of the Trio into new directions, including
more original material, and performing covers of songs by relative newcomers
Tom Paxton, Mason Williams, and Gordon Lightfoot.
The folk era began to wane and the music of groups such as the Beatles and
the Rolling Stones dominated the charts, and the members of the Kingston
Trio decided to disband the group in 1967.
[edit] Solo career, the post-Trio years
Stewart continued to write songs and record for Capitol, while touring as a
solo act. It was during this time that he composed the hit, "Daydream
Believer" for The Monkees (later a hit for Anne Murray as well), and later
toured with Robert F. Kennedy's ill-fated 1968 presidential campaign. He
also met and married fellow folk singer Buffy Ford, with whom he remained
until his death, and began recording a remarkable string of albums. These
include his signature album, California Bloodlines, as well as Willard,
Cannons in the Rain, and Wingless Angels.
Though usually successful with critics and a core group of fans, Stewart's
albums were not considered commercial successes. He left Capitol after only
two solo releases and was signed by Warner Bros. Records, with whom he also
recorded just two albums before moving on to RCA Records, where he recorded
three LPs (including a live performance album). Stewart followed his release
from RCA with a contract at the Robert Stigwood organization, the same
organization that serviced the recording contracts for the Bee Gees, as well
as several other disco performers. It was at RSO Records that Stewart
enjoyed his most commercially successful years as a solo artist. Teaming
with Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham (of Buckingham Nicks and, later,
Fleetwood Mac), Stewart recorded and released Bombs Away Dream Babies, which
included the #5 hit, "Gold," in 1979. Two other tracks from the album,
"Midnight Wind" and "Lost Her in the Sun," would also hit the top 40. The
follow-up album, Dream Babies Go Hollywood, proved to be a commercial
disappointment, and shortly thereafter Stewart dropped from the pop charts,
never to return as a performer.
[edit] Later years
Stewart's later and most significant success was as a songwriter. Several of
his songs were recorded by a number of popular acts, including Nanci
Griffith, Rosanne Cash, Mary Chapin Carpenter, Joan Baez, and others. He
also continued to record new material, producing CDs on his own "Neon
Dreams" label in between commercial releases. Many fans believe that these
recordings are John's best and usually coincide with one of his tours. The
most recent listing is The Day the River Sang in 2006.
Stewart had a passion for painting, doing art shows and covers for his
recordings and books. He continued to be a prolific songwriter and toured
the United States and Europe regularly. He resided in California with his
wife, Buffy Ford Stewart. Stewart's brother Mike, who died in 2002, founded
the folk-rock group We Five in the mid 1960s.
Over his last years, Stewart teamed up with former TKT member, Nick
Reynolds, to offer The Kingston Trio fans the ultimate Trio Fantasy:
performing for and with Stewart and Reynolds.
In 2005 and 2006 Bob Shane attended and performed a few songs with Stewart
and Reynolds at the Trio Fantasy Camp, which is held annually in Scottsdale,
Arizona.
[edit] Death
According to a close friend, Stewart suffered a massive stroke or brain
aneurysm late in the previous day and died January 19, 2008 at a San Diego
hospital, the band announced on its official Web site.[1]. Doctors had
determined that any difficult surgical remedies that might have been
employed to save his life - even if successful - would had left him immobile
and unable to speak. It wasn't generally known, but doctors had told Stewart
in recent years that he had apparently experienced various minor strokes,
likely in his sleep.
Stewart's wife, Buffy, and children and Nick Reynolds and John's long-time
friend and bassist, Dave Batti, were at his side when he died.
John and Buffy had spent his final few days visiting Nick Reynolds and his
wife at Nick's place in Coronado, California, listening to and singing old
Kingston Trio songs. He was struck down when he returned to his hotel room
Thursday evening, January 17.
In recent months, Stewart had been informed that he was suffering from
early-onset Alzheimer's disease and was anxious to play and record as much
as possible before the debilitating effects of the disease took hold in
earnest. He had just completed work on his to-be final album when he died.
Family members have stated that funeral services are to be private.
[edit] References
^ Rosales, Luis. History of Damien High School, accessed 20 September 2007
[edit] External links
John Stewart Home Page
The Kingston Trio Home Page
List of The Cumberland Three recordings with John Stewart 1960-1961
List of The Kingston Trio recordings with John Stewart 1961-1969
List of John Stewart solo work recordings 1957 through 1980
List of John Stewart solo work recordings 1982-1989
List of John Stewart solo work recordings 1990-2003
List of John Stewart Songs Recorded by Other Artists
Info and photos about John Stewart and Nick Reynolds and their Trio Fantasy
Camps
Obituary in The Times, 22 January 2008
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stewart_%28musician%29"
Categories: Recent deaths | Current events as of January 2008 | 1939 births
| 2008 deaths | American folk singers | American male singers | American
singer-songwriters | American banjoists
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I believe some of the quotes below were taken from his site...?
Robbie Wright
> "Robbie Wright" <robbiegeorge.wri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:11da6628-9943-4978...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 25, 11:56 pm, "Will Dockery" <will.dock...@knology.net> wrote:
>
> > Updates from other parts of usenet:
>
> >http://www.chillywinds.com
>
> Another great Stewart site is run by my friend, Bob Eliot.www.bitemyfoot.co.uk
> I believe some of the quotes below were taken from his site...?
>
> where the quotes came from (see below). And yes, it is a great site for
> info on John Stewart.
Yes, I thought that to be the case - and I just want you to know that
I was /not/ accusing you of not giving credit... I was just pointing
out Bob's site directly.
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>
>
>
>
>
> > " Stewart's song, "Durango," is about being turned down for the part of
> > Billy the Kid. Here are a few quotes from Stewart on the subject:
>
> > ''I was gonna do a movie with Sam Peckinpah called 'Pat Garrett and Billy
> > the Kid.' Went in and met the casting director, who said "You'll be really
> > good in the part.'' Went in and met the producer, Gordan Carroll, and we
> > got along very well. And I really wanted to play Billy the Kid but he
> > said,
> > 'we need someone younger, more experienced.' And Kris Kristofferson got
> > the
> > part.
>
> > "There was another part. Billy's friend, a guy named Alias, and the part
> > was mine. It was mine, but they said, 'you gotta go,' so Bob Dylan got the
> > part and that was that, that's the story." (John Stewart Zoo World
> > 24.5.73)
>
> > (above quotes taken
> > from:http://domain1620281.sites.fasthosts.com/omaha/or1/or1_02.html)
>
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Robbie Wright
That's right! This is another one I had actually temporarily forgotten
about... in fact, I read in one of his CD liner notes or heard John
saying once that "Armstrong" was received very badly in the Southern
states where DJs saw it as "unpatriotic" and wouldn't play it... Which
was completely wrong and missing the point.
Stewart later wrote something like a poem that was read by some radio
stations about John Glenn called To Ride The Lightning (One More
Time):
TO RIDE THE LIGHTNING (ONE MORE TIME)
John Stewart
John Glenn is going to ride the lightning one more time,
and we're all going to ride it with him, once again.
Not just as one of the old guard out to redefine aging...
but as a reluctant keeper of the flame from long ago and shining
times....
He's going to climb that rocket one more time.
A lost hero of the Heartland past, who came out of the fog of
transparent heroes, and tacky headlines...
To ride the lightning one more time.
On the marshes of Cape Canaveral and Cocoa Beach
Amidst the ghosts of Grissom, White, Chaffey, Shepherd, McAulliffe
and all of the Challenger crew who rode the lightning one last time.
He's going to climb aboard and buckle in..
Carrying the relics of the New Frontier and Camelot.
Carrying the tiny withering flame of a time thirty six years ago when
America felt young,
as though there was nowhere we could not go
nothing we couldn't do.
On that day in February when we all stopped and watched Cronkite,
Brinkley and Chancellor on black and white screens....
count down the last seconds as Johnny Glenn was to about to become the
first American to orbit the Earth.
High atop the volatile Atlas Rocket
That had exploded in a wall of white hot flame so many times during
disastrous launches .
When he and Shepherd, Grissom and Carpenter were writing the text
book
Of how to fly that tiny tin can atop world's biggest fire cracker.
We all watched and prayed when Glenn told Mission Control that a light
inside his capsule said that his heat shield was loose causing he and
Friendship 7 to burn up on reentry.
As if it was predestination, the boy scout from Ohio safely parachuted
Friendship 7 into the Pacific as if it were all from a paperback
novel.
It was a bright shining moment in a clear crystal time,
when the shadows behind the legends were washed away by the light of a
nations dreams.
Johnny Glenn is going to ride the lightning one more time
As the children and children's children of the New Frontier
Watch Cronkite, Brokaw and Rather count it down.
Count down the lift off that will hold the man, who probably has no
interest of knowing that he may well hold the lost dreams of a
fractured nation.
A Nation who's heart had been broken by Vietnam, assassinations,
scandals and leaders who have sold our future down the river for the
fast buck and tainted power.
People are coming from all over America, from all over the World and
they really can't tell you why.
As the people in Close Encounters of the Third Kind who kept drawing
Devils Tower.
They just want to be there and be a part of it all.
To stand as a witness to the lift off that has become a pre millenium
Resurrection for the tiny light that burned so deeply inside of us
that we didn't know it was still there
Johnny Glenn is going to ride the lightning one more time..
And in that moment of lift off..
We all might dare, perhaps for just a moment,
To dream again of bright futures and newer worlds.
Johnny Glenn is going to ride the lightning
One more time..
And we're going to ride it with him
One more time,
Once again...
>
> Exactly 10 years later, the summer of '79, John Stewart really struck gold
> with "Gold," a Top 5 smash that earned John - you guessed it - a gold
> record.
>
>
>
>
>
> > Around 1979, he releaed the album 'Bombs Away Dream Babies' - that
> > album was a big seller and the well known hit - "Gold". the song I
> > really liked was "Midnight Wind (Come On Down Miranda)" with Stevie
> > Nicks. The single "Lost Her In the sun" was also fairly popular.
> > It's interesting to note that both 'Bombs Away Dream Babies' and the
> > followup record, "Dream Babies Go To Hollywood" are both out of print
> > on cd, even though the first one did pretty well in sales, not sure of
> > the 2nd one. Also he had a short lived GH disc alsoout of print now.
> > These discs are listed for ridculously high prices on Amazon - people
> > have a right to name their own prices, but a cd like 'Bombs Away Dream
> > Babies', that sold pretty well and had three solid hits on it should
> > definitely be available on a reasonably priced cd. That's typical of
> > the record companies and people will continue to fire up their
> > file-sharing engines until things change.
>
> > Mr. M
>
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"Robbie Wright" wrote...
On Jan 26, 2:07 am, "BobbyM" wrote:
>
> > Updates from other parts of usenet:
>
> >http://www.chillywinds.com
>
> Another great Stewart site is run by my friend, Bob
Eliot.www.bitemyfoot.co.uk
> I believe some of the quotes below were taken from his site...?
>
> I reach that site
throughhttp://domain1620281.sites.fasthosts.com/default.htmand I duly gave
credit
> where the quotes came from (see below). And yes, it is a great site for
> info on John Stewart.
Yes, I thought that to be the case - and I just want you to know that
I was /not/ accusing you of not giving credit... I was just pointing
out Bob's site directly.
I read an excellent obituary/reptrospective on JS last night, covering his
earliest days leading to his joining the Kingston Trio... I'll link to it
here later when I see it again...
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> "Robbie Wright" wrote...
>
> On Jan 26, 2:07 am, "BobbyM" wrote:
>
> > > Updates from other parts of usenet:
>
> > >http://www.chillywinds.com
>
> > Another great Stewart site is run by my friend, Bob
>
> Eliot.www.bitemyfoot.co.uk> I believe some of the quotes below were taken from his site...?
>
> > I reach that site
>
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RIP..;(
JUDY BARRETT
performer at the Gamble Rogers Folk festival in St Augustine and I looked
forward to hearing him. I know most of the good Florida musicians who
played before him and I enjoyed them a lot.
When John came to the stage, the ampatheater was packed. John gave a
totally incomprehensible performance. His diction was terrible. and he
repeated songs and verses all over the place. After a time, folks began to
slip away, at first a few at a time, then in larger and larger numbers. I
hate to leave a performance, but finally did because I wasn't haven't a good
time, and the thought of my bed in the camp ground was getting very strong.
I wonder if he was sick even then. This was probably about 2002 but I am
not sure. Someone said he was drunk, but I don't know that and will not
accuse him falsely.
My friends and I speak of the heavenly jam circle, where instruments never
need tuning, and nobody calls for the last song. May john find a welcome
there.
--
all blessings
Judy
Joe
wrote:
One of the Obits on the net said he was in the early stages of
alzheimer's but that was only a year ago. Maybe he was drunk at the
performance he gave in Florida. HUmm he wrote the Monkees hit Day
Dream Believer. Interesting .Doesnt sound much like a folk song.
by the way this guy died in Jan. why the late post?
Will Dockery
"Joe" wrote
Interesting coincidence that right after his death there were stacks of
cheap-o Monkees CDs on the ''Value'' racks with ''Daydream Believer'' in
huge letters on the covers.
Since in what little press coverage of his death there was, the fact that
John Stewart wrote the song was pretty much the only detail other than the
KT connection and the 1979 hit ''Gold'' in the obits made me wonder if the
makers of the CDs did this to try and sell a few copies from a possible
revived interest in him.
> by the way this guy died in Jan. why the late post?
Better late than never...
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