Official Lovin'Spoonful site
Kerry McNulty
The original members are proud to announce their new site. Rare live
performance downloads are available as well as band bios, concert
calender, parade of hits, band history, and a fan club with free
goodies!!
http://www.lovinspoonful.com
check it out
Larry Blumenfeld
Kerry McNulty wrote:
>
> The original members are proud to announce their new site. Rare live ^^^^^^^^
In what alternate universe? Two out of four, lacking only the two guys
who started the band! Zally and John B., where are you when we need
you???
(This is like Ringo re-forming the Beatles with 3 new guys playing guitar
and bass...or the Flying Burritos without Gram & Chris...oops, that
happened, didn't it? Well, you get the idea.)
Happy trails,
Larry B.
GSBubs
Ditto to the last post... I excitedly (is that a valid adverb) loaded up
that site only to find no John S... I do believe in magic but that's just
plain ol' voodoo...
Kerry McNulty
The Spoonful today consists of 3 of the members from the '67 band. The
band started in '65 with Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and
Zal Yansvsky. Boone and Butler and Jerry Yester('67) are still together.
Whether John Sebastian was the main "talent" is a matter of opinion.
Judging Butler's singing ability from a 20 second wav. file is'nt really
fair. I saw them perform in West Palm in an Irish fest a couple of weeks
ago, myself and the entire crowd had a great time singing along and I
thoroughly enjoyed the show.
Besides, how many bands today can claim the same members as they had in
the '60's? I can't think of 1...
Larry Blumenfeld
Kerry McNulty wrote:
> ...how many bands today can claim the same members as they had in
> the '60's? I can't think of 1...
I wouldn't touch this one with a ten-foot pole. Anyone else?
(Apologies to any ten-foot Poles reading this...)
Happy trails,
Larry B.
Kerry McNulty
Okay, I thought of 1, I think- Peter, Paul, and Mary. Correct me if I'm
wrong...
Your Name
Zal is alive & well & living in Kingston, Ont. where he owns a cafe
called Chez Piggy.
Daryl Nagamine
Kerry McNulty wrote:
> The Spoonful today consists of 3 of the members from the '67 band. The
> band started in '65 with Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and
> Zal Yansvsky. Boone and Butler and Jerry Yester('67) are still together.
> Whether John Sebastian was the main "talent" is a matter of opinion.
> Judging Butler's singing ability from a 20 second wav. file is'nt really
> fair. I saw them perform in West Palm in an Irish fest a couple of weeks
> ago, myself and the entire crowd had a great time singing along and I
> thoroughly enjoyed the show.
My problem with the new web page is that it is not a tribute to the
great music of the original band, but merely a way to promote the new
version of the band. "Official" web pages should have more complete
discographies, album cover photos, links to other resources, etc.
Granted, this page is new, but I get the impression that John Sebastian
wouldn't even be mentioned except for the even bigger backlash that
would have caused. With several new releases in the past few years
("Tar Beach", "J Band Music", and "King Biscuit Flower Hour"), John's
solo career should not be ignored. I guess the reason this page is
"official" is that the current members have legal rights to the name.
> Besides, how many bands today can claim the same members as they had in
> the '60's? I can't think of 1...
I know the Kingston Trio still perform regularly with two of the three
original members and they started in the Fifties.
If you include non-folk groups, The Four Tops, are still going strong
with all four original members. The Beach Boys released an album last
year that features all the members from their Sixties hey-day except for
Dennis Wilson who died in the early Eighties. You've also got the
Rolling Stones, the Who, and Fleetwood Mac.
If you want to count other bands (like the current Spoonful) that
continue under the same name without the presence of the most important
singer/musician/songwriter, then you could include the touring versions
of The Band and the Creedence Clearwater Revisited.
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Daryl Nagamine
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
naga...@cyberg8t.com
eljefe
Daryl Nagamine <naga...@cyberg8t.com> wrote:
>Kerry McNulty wrote:
>> The Spoonful today consists of 3 of the members from the '67 band. The
>> band started in '65 with Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and
>> Zal Yansvsky. Boone and Butler and Jerry Yester('67) are still together.
>> Whether John Sebastian was the main "talent" is a matter of opinion.
Yeah...pretty much everyone's.
>Granted, this page is new, but I get the impression that John Sebastian
>wouldn't even be mentioned except for the even bigger backlash that
>would have caused. With several new releases in the past few years
>("Tar Beach", "J Band Music", and "King Biscuit Flower Hour"), John's
>solo career should not be ignored.
John continues to be creative. The others, it seems, are content to
rest on their laurels.
>I guess the reason this page is
>"official" is that the current members have legal rights to the name.
Awww jeeez...(sorry :) )
Anybody remember a similar scenario 25+ years ago when Matthew Katz
owned the legal rights to "Jefferson Airplane" and "It's A Beautiful
Day?" He put bogus groups on tour using those names. That's why there
was a Jefferson Starship, with the original Airplane members.
>> Besides, how many bands today can claim the same members as they had in
>> the '60's? I can't think of 1...
>I know the Kingston Trio still perform regularly with two of the three
>original members and they started in the Fifties.
Maybe. But Bob Shane has put Trio's together in the past with only
himself as original member.
>If you include non-folk groups, The Four Tops, are still going strong
>with all four original members. The Beach Boys released an album last
>year that features all the members from their Sixties hey-day except for
>Dennis Wilson who died in the early Eighties. You've also got the
>Rolling Stones, the Who, and Fleetwood Mac.
No way, dewd! Or haven't you heard...Brian Jones and Keith Moon have
been dead for a coupla decades. Fleetwood Mac is still performing?
Okay, if those are your rules, I submit Big Brother and the Holding
Company without Joplin. All the original members, with guest
appearances by Duffy Bishop and other female vocalists.
>If you want to count other bands (like the current Spoonful) that
>continue under the same name without the presence of the most important
>singer/musician/songwriter, then you could include the touring versions
>of The Band and the Creedence Clearwater Revisited.
The new "CCR" includes TWO guys to replace John Fogarty: one who
studied for years to sound like him, and one who studied for years to
play guitar like him. (I, of course, contend all of this could have
been accomplished in a matter of minutes. ;) )
Btw, does the Spoonful website contain anything regarding the fact two
original members turned "state's evidence" in a 1967 pot bust? (Ibib.
Berkeley Barb, March, 1967 and Northwest Passage, 1983)
JJ
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Larry Blumenfeld
eljefe wrote:
> >Kerry McNulty wrote:
>
> >> The Spoonful today consists of 3 of the members from the '67 band.
...but only two members from the *original* band...
> >> Whether John Sebastian was the main "talent" is a matter of opinion.
>
> Yeah...pretty much everyone's.
Amen.
> Btw, does the Spoonful website contain anything regarding the fact two
> original members turned "state's evidence" in a 1967 pot bust? (Ibib.
> Berkeley Barb, March, 1967 and Northwest Passage, 1983)
Oh-oh! *Now* you're gonna stir up trouble. Just two thoughts:
1. Let sleeping dogs....
2. Judge not, that ye be....
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Happy trails,
Larry B.
Daryl Nagamine
eljefe wrote:
>
> Daryl Nagamine <naga...@cyberg8t.com> wrote:
> >I guess the reason this page is
> >"official" is that the current members have legal rights to the name.
>
> Awww jeeez...(sorry :) )
> Anybody remember a similar scenario 25+ years ago when Matthew Katz
> owned the legal rights to "Jefferson Airplane" and "It's A Beautiful
> Day?" He put bogus groups on tour using those names. That's why there
> was a Jefferson Starship, with the original Airplane members.
I didn't mean that it was a valid reason! I remember all the different
versions of the Coasters, Drifters, Deep Purple, etc. that toured with
almost no original members. When I was in high school in the early
Eighties, one of these pseudo-Deep Purple bands played the Los Angeles
area and had to include a disclaimer in their concert ads stating who
*would not* be performing. The list included everyone that was ever an
important member of the group. It was hilarious.
> >> Besides, how many bands today can claim the same members as they had in
> >> the '60's? I can't think of 1...
>
> >I know the Kingston Trio still perform regularly with two of the three
> >original members and they started in the Fifties.
>
> Maybe. But Bob Shane has put Trio's together in the past with only
> himself as original member.
That's true, but at least he originally used the name "The New Kingston
Trio" in an effort to distinguish the efforts of his current group from
the past Guard Trio and Stewart Trio versions. Since the studio
recordings by the various incarnations of the Shane-led Trios didn't
have any real chart impact, it obviously didn't help even after he
dropped the "New" designation.
> >If you include non-folk groups, The Four Tops, are still going strong
> >with all four original members. The Beach Boys released an album last
> >year that features all the members from their Sixties hey-day except for
> >Dennis Wilson who died in the early Eighties. You've also got the
> >Rolling Stones, the Who, and Fleetwood Mac.
>
> No way, dewd! Or haven't you heard...Brian Jones and Keith Moon have
> been dead for a coupla decades.
Never thought I'd see 'dewd' pop up in a rec.music.folk post. This
might start a trend of posts with subjects like 'The Indigo Girls are
kewl' or 'The Even Dozen Jug Band rules'. ;-)
> Fleetwood Mac is still performing?
The latest I heard is that Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham will even
be aboard for a summer reunion tour. I tried to mention bands where the
primary founding members/lead singers/songwriters were still an integral
part of the band. Obviously there aren't many (any?) Sixties rock bands
who can boast a lineup consisting of all original members. I also
realize that most of the bands with even a partial original lineup are
just a shell of their former selves.
As for Sixties groups that still record, perform, and have an influence
on modern musicians/songwriters, I'd put Neil Young and Crazy Horse at
the top of the list (I know it's a bit of a cheat since Crazy Horse is
mainly a backing band, but what the heck?).
> Okay, if those are your rules, I submit Big Brother and the Holding
> Company without Joplin. All the original members, with guest
> appearances by Duffy Bishop and other female vocalists.
>
> >If you want to count other bands (like the current Spoonful) that
> >continue under the same name without the presence of the most important
> >singer/musician/songwriter, then you could include the touring versions
> >of The Band and the Creedence Clearwater Revisited.
>
> The new "CCR" includes TWO guys to replace John Fogarty: one who
> studied for years to sound like him, and one who studied for years to
> play guitar like him. (I, of course, contend all of this could have
> been accomplished in a matter of minutes. ;) )
Actually, I meant for those comments to be tongue-in-cheek, but I guess
I should have thrown in a few smileys to make that clear. By the way, I
haven't heard the CCR nostalgia act, but since the new guitarist is
Eliot Easton who used to play in The Cars, I would expect the lead work
to be pretty good. The solos on material like "My Best Friend's Girl"
lead me to believe that he could do the Fogerty-mania simulation pretty
well.
> Btw, does the Spoonful website contain anything regarding the fact two
> original members turned "state's evidence" in a 1967 pot bust? (Ibib.
> Berkeley Barb, March, 1967 and Northwest Passage, 1983)
Don't look for that any time soon as this page seems to be an attempt to
help secure new gigs, not dredge up old controversies! By the way, I've
read that Zal was one of the two, but who was the other? Since Joe
Butler seems to be the driving force behind the Spoonful revival, I'm
surprised that the "official" page doesn't talk much about "Revelation:
Revolution '69", since that album also bore the name "Lovin' Spoonful".
I shouldn't laugh, I actually own it. :-)
Now back to some authentic Spoonful discussion:
Has anyone purchased the re-issued version of "Everything Playing" yet?
It's supposed to contain five bonus tracks and I've been trying to find
out what they are. Also, if anyone has any comments about sound
quality, I'd love to hear them. I live in Southern California and I
haven't seen this pop up in any stores around here yet.
Paul Grosso
elj...@halcyon.com wrote:
: Awww jeeez...(sorry :) )
: Anybody remember a similar scenario 25+ years ago when Matthew Katz
: owned the legal rights to "Jefferson Airplane" and "It's A Beautiful
: Day?" He put bogus groups on tour using those names. That's why there
: was a Jefferson Starship, with the original Airplane members.
Nope, that's not the reason. The Jefferson Starship did not have Jorma
Kaunkonen (on lead guitar) and did not have Jack Cassidy (on bass) since
both had split to be Hot Tuna. That's why they were named Jefferson
Starship - it was a splinter group that didn't include the original
members.
Actually, the Lovin' Spoonful without John Sebastian reminds me of what
the Doors did after Jim Morrison died. They put out an album called
"Other Voices" and it was plain to see who the trademark of the band was.
I know, The Doors seems just a bit off-topic for this newsgroup but John
Sebastian actually played on stage with The Doors a few times and he's
featured playing harmonica on their live album.
- Paul
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Paul Grosso
pa...@wco.com
http://www.wco.com/~paulg/
Wayne Greene
Daryl Nagamine <naga...@cyberg8t.com> wrote:
Fleetwood Mac??? The original Fleetwood Mac was a Chicago-styled
bluesband with John McVie, Mick Fleetwood, Peter Green, and Jeremy
Spencer. They haven
't played together since the 60s.
Wayne Greene wgr...@bigfoot.com
PO Box 7427 http://members.aol.com/WayneGre
Dallas, TX 75209-0427
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Michael Black
And it's been around for a really long time. I heard about Zal and the
restaurant maybe twenty years ago. I saw a short article about him
just recently and the restaurant is still in business. I wish I could
remember where I saw the article; maybe one of those magazines that
are available free at record stores here in Canada (well, I suppose
they have them in the US, but it was a Canadian-based magazine).
Michael
Keith Dunnigan
In rec.music.folk Daryl Nagamine <naga...@cyberg8t.com> wrote:
: Dennis Wilson who died in the early Eighties. You've also got the
: Rolling Stones, the Who, and Fleetwood Mac.
Actually Lindsey Buckingham quit Fleetwood Mac.
Keith
loki
>GSBubs wrote:
>>
>> Ditto to the last post... I excitedly (is that a valid adverb) loaded up
>> that site only to find no John S... I do believe in magic but that's just
>> plain ol' voodoo...
>
>The Spoonful today consists of 3 of the members from the '67 band. The
>band started in '65 with Steve Boone, Joe Butler, John Sebastian, and
>Zal Yansvsky. Boone and Butler and Jerry Yester('67) are still together.
>Whether John Sebastian was the main "talent" is a matter of opinion.
>Judging Butler's singing ability from a 20 second wav. file is'nt really
>fair. I saw them perform in West Palm in an Irish fest a couple of weeks
>ago, myself and the entire crowd had a great time singing along and I
>thoroughly enjoyed the show.
>Besides, how many bands today can claim the same members as they had in
>the '60's? I can't think of 1...
But still...Isn't a Lovin' Spoonful site without John and Zal the
equivelant to a Rolling Stones site without Mick and Kieth, or a
Beatles soght without Lennon and McCartney?
Loki