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Tom Huot

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Jan 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/3/96
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Unfortunately, I discovered both of these bands way too late. Son Volt
and Wilco have put out an album each which is excellent. The last
Jayhawks album was also excellent. I had heard that there were former
members of the Jayhawks joining former Uncle Tupelo members for yet
another combination. What exactly is the scoop on this?

Also if anyone has any info on any of these groups, or combinations
thereof I would love to hear it. Discographies and history are
welcome.

Apologies to those of you who don't feel this fits in the newsgroup
category you are reading. I sort of feel they fit all of the newsgroups
posted in.

Damn! And I just missed my chance to see both the Jayhawks and Wilco
last summer!

--
Tom Huot
hu...@cray.com

Dirk Horst

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Jan 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/3/96
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hu...@cray.com (Tom Huot) wrote:

>I had heard that there were former
>members of the Jayhawks joining former Uncle Tupelo members for yet
>another combination. What exactly is the scoop on this?

The name of the "supergroup" is Golden Smog. Their album is
supposedly due out on Jan. 16.

>Also if anyone has any info on any of these groups, or combinations
>thereof I would love to hear it. Discographies and history are
>welcome.

Sun Volt has just one album out from this past fall. I dunno about
any singles form them.

Wilco has one album (released last spring) and I've seen a CD single
for their song "Box Full of Letters". The single has a few nifty
non-album tracks. It's an import, but I found it at Best Buy, so it's
not exactly "rare". Also, an Austin radio station (KGSR) has released
a radio sessions CD that has an acoustic version of "Box Full of
Letters".

>Damn! And I just missed my chance to see both the Jayhawks and Wilco
>last summer!

I caught Wilco last spring when they passed thru Dallas and they put
on a pretty darn good show that included a great cover of Tom Petty's
"She's Gonna Listen To Her Heart". It really fit their style!

---Dirk H.


Don Yates

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Jan 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/4/96
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hu...@cray.com (Tom Huot) wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, I discovered both of these bands way too late. Son Volt
> and Wilco have put out an album each which is excellent. The last
> Jayhawks album was also excellent. I had heard that there were former

> members of the Jayhawks joining former Uncle Tupelo members for yet
> another combination. What exactly is the scoop on this?
>
> Also if anyone has any info on any of these groups, or combinations
> thereof I would love to hear it. Discographies and history are
> welcome.
>
> Apologies to those of you who don't feel this fits in the newsgroup
> category you are reading. I sort of feel they fit all of the newsgroups
> posted in.
>
No need to apologize, Tom -- they all fit right in RMCW.
Unfortunately, the Jayhawks are no more, but members Mark Pearlman
and Gary Louris are part of the Golden Smog side-project, which
also features Wilco's Jeff Tweedy, Dan Murphy of Soul Asylum and
Kraig Johnson and Noah Levy of the Honeydogs. Due to contractual
reasons, they record under pseudonyms. The Smog put out an EP of
covers in 1993, and in a couple of weeks, a full-length (titled
"Down By The Old Mainstream") will be released. If you're a
Jayhawks/Tupelo family fan, I would recommend getting it.

I don't really have time to do group histories right now, but I will
tell you how to subscribe to a smart alternative country mailing list
that regularly features news on those bands and others like them.
Email list...@u.washington.edu

then leave the subject line blank, and type in the message field:

SUBSCRIBE POSTCARD2 (your email name) (your name)

Hope that helps, don

Yet Another Steve

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Jan 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/4/96
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Something I've wondered about, maybe someone reading this thread will know
the answer.

On Michelle Shocked's ARKANSAS TRAVELER album, there's one cut ("Shaking
Hands" or "Soldier's Joy") recorded with Uncle Tupelo. Unfortunately,
it doesn't say who the guy is that sings lead. I bought a couple of
Uncle Tupelo albums but they didn't really tell me who was who either.
And now that the group has broken up, I don't know that I want to be
pursuing individual members' careers just to get more vocals by the one
guy.

So, does anyone know who was singing lead on "Soldier's Joy"? And what HE'S
doing now?

Steve


Don Yates

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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progr...@harbourfront.on.ca (Public Programming) wrote:
>I'd like to suggest that individuals interested in Wilco/Son Volt/Uncle
>Tupelo ('No Depression' music) consider subscribing to a similar listserv
>called (confusingly) 'postcard'. In this case:
>
>Email mail...@d31rz0.stanford.edu
>
>leave subject line blank, and type in the message field:
>
>'subscribe postcard <YOUR NAME>'
>
>I currently subscribe to both and have found that 'postcard' is far more
>active and is a better resource for useful information (just an opinion).
>
>Hell! subscribe to both.
>
Glad you mentioned the original Postcard, Richard. I would've in my
previous post, but I had forgotten how to subscribe. Just so people know
the difference between the two though, Postcard is supposed to be focused
on Uncle Tupelo and its offshoots (Wilco, Son Volt), whereas Postcard2
covers the alternative country scene in general.---don


Public Programming

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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In article <4cf9mv$8...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, Don Yates <cto...@u.washington.edu> says:

>I don't really have time to do group histories right now, but I will
>tell you how to subscribe to a smart alternative country mailing list
>that regularly features news on those bands and others like them.
>Email list...@u.washington.edu
>
>then leave the subject line blank, and type in the message field:
>
>SUBSCRIBE POSTCARD2 (your email name) (your name)
>
>Hope that helps, don

I'd like to suggest that individuals interested in Wilco/Son Volt/Uncle
Tupelo ('No Depression' music) consider subscribing to a similar listserv
called (confusingly) 'postcard'. In this case:

Email mail...@d31rz0.stanford.edu

leave subject line blank, and type in the message field:

'subscribe postcard <YOUR NAME>'

I currently subscribe to both and have found that 'postcard' is far more
active and is a better resource for useful information (just an opinion).

Hell! subscribe to both.


Richard Davis
Music Administrator
Harbourfront Centre
Toronto, ON Canada

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Marla Ford

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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anyone else here ever heard of kevn kinney or david franklin?

Anthony

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Jan 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/5/96
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Don,

This is very upsetting news. I have been a Jayhawks listener for about two
years now. I actually got to see them open up for Matthew Sweet locally here
in southern cal. The Jayhawks shredded. Although I like Matthew Sweets studio
performances he was awful live. Anyway, this is not a forum for Matthew Sweet
(sorry all) so I'll drop his name at this point. I thought I saw the Jayhawks
listed not to long ago at the same club I saw them at previously - I still have
a hard time coming to grips with them disbanding. Can anyone elaborate more on
this topic? Lastly, regarding Uncle Tupelo - which is their best record to
start off with and how many are out there?

10Q

Anthony

In article <4cf9mv$8...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, cto...@u.washington.edu says...


>
>hu...@cray.com (Tom Huot) wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, I discovered both of these bands way too late. Son Volt
>> and Wilco have put out an album each which is excellent. The last
>> Jayhawks album was also excellent. I had heard that there were former
>> members of the Jayhawks joining former Uncle Tupelo members for yet
>> another combination. What exactly is the scoop on this?
>>
>> Also if anyone has any info on any of these groups, or combinations
>> thereof I would love to hear it. Discographies and history are
>> welcome.
>>
>> Apologies to those of you who don't feel this fits in the newsgroup
>> category you are reading. I sort of feel they fit all of the newsgroups
>> posted in.
>>
>No need to apologize, Tom -- they all fit right in RMCW.
>Unfortunately, the Jayhawks are no more, but members Mark Pearlman
>and Gary Louris are part of the Golden Smog side-project, which
>also features Wilco's Jeff Tweedy, Dan Murphy of Soul Asylum and
>Kraig Johnson and Noah Levy of the Honeydogs. Due to contractual
>reasons, they record under pseudonyms. The Smog put out an EP of
>covers in 1993, and in a couple of weeks, a full-length (titled
>"Down By The Old Mainstream") will be released. If you're a
>Jayhawks/Tupelo family fan, I would recommend getting it.
>

Don Yates

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Jan 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/6/96
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agli...@deltanet.com (Anthony) wrote:
>
>I thought I saw the Jayhawks
>listed not to long ago at the same club I saw them at previously - I still have
>a hard time coming to grips with them disbanding. Can anyone elaborate more on
>this topic? Lastly, regarding Uncle Tupelo - which is their best record to
>start off with and how many are out there?
>
Re: The Jayhawks -- Mark Olson left the group, and the rest decided to
disband. Kinda what happened to Tupelo, and before getting too upset
about the Jayhawks calling it quits, think about what's happened since
Uncle Tupelo disbanded: We now have two swell alt-country groups (Wilco
and Son Volt) that formed as a result. Perhaps something similar will
happen with the Jayhawks split.

As for Tupelo, they have four albums: "No Depression" (1990), "Long Time
Gone" (1991), "March 16-20, 1992" (1992) and "Anodyne" (1993). My
writer friend David Cantwell sez "Long Time Gone" is the best
alt-country album ever, but for me anyway, it's tough to decide which is
best. The first two are the most raucous, album number three is an
acoustic-oriented gem, and the final album shows an increasing maturation
of the band's sound and songwriting. Even though "No Depression" is an
impressive debut, it's probably my least favorite, and the next three I
like about equally, but for different reasons.

And as I and others mentioned earlier, if you like bands like this,
you should subscribe to the email lists, Postcard and Postcard 2.
Postcard focuses on Uncle Tupelo/Son Volt/Wilco, while Postcard2 covers
alternative country in general (today's threads discussed Whiskeytown,
Twisted Willie (the soon-to-be-released Willie Nelson tribute), 70s
soft-country rock (New Riders of the Purple Sage, Pure Prairie League),
Golden Smog, and I can't remember what else, but it's been humming.
Quite often, the discussion extends to classic country, bluegrass, radio
and retail practices, and just about anything of interest to the
typically eclectic alt-country fan. If you need the directions for
subscribing, just email me.---don


Jim Clark

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Jan 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/7/96
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> anyone else here ever heard of kevn kinney or david franklin?
Sure . . . I lived in Athens, GA from '87-'94. Kevn & friends would
regularly play some excellent country/folk/rock "hoot" type evenings at
the 40-Watt. Great fun! David Franklin? Atlanta? "Bones and All"?
If so, I like him, too. Miss that scene, out here on the coastal plains
of eastern NC (although Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill is a pretty nice
little music scene, too).


Lianne McNeil

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Jan 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/7/96
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progr...@harbourfront.on.ca (Public Programming) writes:

>>Steve_H...@qmail4.nba.TRW.COM (Yet Another Steve) says:
>>
>>Something I've wondered about, maybe someone reading this thread will know
>>the answer.
>>
>>On Michelle Shocked's ARKANSAS TRAVELER album, there's one cut ("Shaking
>>Hands" or "Soldier's Joy") recorded with Uncle Tupelo.

>I'm replaying the song in my head (I'm at work) and I'm pretty confident
>that the male voice in 'Soldier's Joy' is that of Jay Farrar.

Just in case it helps on clarifying that, I'm looking at the cd cover
right now, and I believe you're correct. Under "Shaking Hands (Soldier's
Joy)" the members of Uncle Tupelo are listed, and it says..."Jay Farrar
Guitar and Vocal." It also lists Arkansas Traveler as doing Vocal. (The
other people listed are only as instrumentalists, no other vocalists
mentioned.)

Lianne
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Matthew DeFoor

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Jan 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/9/96
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In article <4ckr2m$h...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>, Don Yates
<cto...@u.washington.edu> wrote:


> As for Tupelo, they have four albums: "No Depression" (1990), "Long Time
> Gone" (1991), "March 16-20, 1992" (1992) and "Anodyne" (1993). My
> writer friend David Cantwell sez "Long Time Gone" is the best
> alt-country album ever, but for me anyway, it's tough to decide which is
> best.

Actually, their second album on Rockville Records is titled, "Still Feel
Gone" not "Long Time Gone."

Don Yates

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Jan 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/10/96
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ma...@mik.uky.edu (Matthew DeFoor) wrote:
>
>Actually, their second album on Rockville Records is titled, "Still Feel
>Gone" not "Long Time Gone."

That's for correcting me. I don't know what I was thinking when typing
that (I typed the incorrect title TWICE).

"Gather round you all,
come around and see,
those who stand tall,
why don't you please,
watch me fall."


Steve Pachosa

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Jan 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/10/96
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The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on Tuesday, that the
Jayhawks are getting back together without Mark Olson. They
will be changing their name, which is still unknown and will
continue to record on the American Recordings label.

Golden Smog will start a short tour very soon.

Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty

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Jan 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/11/96
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In article <Steve_Hoffmann-...@shoffman.sdd.trw.com>, Steve_H...@qmail4.nba.TRW.COM (Yet Another Steve) writes:
> Something I've wondered about, maybe someone reading this thread will know
> the answer.
>
> On Michelle Shocked's ARKANSAS TRAVELER album, there's one cut ("Shaking
> Hands" or "Soldier's Joy") recorded with Uncle Tupelo. Unfortunately,
> it doesn't say who the guy is that sings lead. I bought a couple of
> Uncle Tupelo albums but they didn't really tell me who was who either.
> And now that the group has broken up, I don't know that I want to be
> pursuing individual members' careers just to get more vocals by the one
> guy.

The two main personalities in Uncle Tupelo were Jeff Tweedy and Jay Farrar.
They both sang but Jay Farrar's vocals have the more "distinctive" sound.

Since Uncle Tupelo broke up Jeff Tweedy has formed a band called Wilco who have
a very good album - "AM" - out and Jay Farrar has formed a band called Son Volt
whose first CD - "Trace" - is probably closest to the sound acheived on the
last Uncle Tupelo album - "Anodyne".

Cheers
Alan

Robert O'Quinn

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Jan 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/12/96
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Look for Mark Olson of the Jayhawks in the New Movie Georgia, He is
toward the end of the movie.

-robo


Jeff Weiss

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Jan 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/13/96
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hu...@cray.com (Tom Huot) wrote:

>Unfortunately, I discovered both of these bands way too late. Son Volt
>and Wilco have put out an album each which is excellent. The last
>Jayhawks album was also excellent. I had heard that there were former
>members of the Jayhawks joining former Uncle Tupelo members for yet
>another combination. What exactly is the scoop on this?

>Also if anyone has any info on any of these groups, or combinations
>thereof I would love to hear it. Discographies and history are
>welcome.

Tom,

I don't know if this got through the first time so I'm trying again.

I came across a magazine called No Depression that covers the Alt
Country scene. It s very well done and informative. I doubt you'll
find it on a news stand so you might want to contact them publishers
directly via e-mail at NoDe...@aol.com.

BTW, I have no interest in the magazine other than I really like it
and want them to be successful.

Regards

Jeff

Mark Elledge

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Jan 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/15/96
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In article <1996Jan11.145935@cantva>, cct...@csc.canterbury.ac.nz says...

>
>The two main personalities in Uncle Tupelo were Jeff Tweedy and Jay Farrar.
>They both sang but Jay Farrar's vocals have the more "distinctive" sound.
>
>Since Uncle Tupelo broke up Jeff Tweedy has formed a band called Wilco who
have
>a very good album - "AM" - out and Jay Farrar has formed a band called Son
Volt
>whose first CD - "Trace" - is probably closest to the sound acheived on the
>last Uncle Tupelo album - "Anodyne".
>
>Cheers
>Alan

Son Volt is touring now and Wilco is taking a rest and will start a second
album before long. Jeff Tweedy will be playing a solo set at the Lounge Axe
in Chicago on 1/26. I'm planning on catching Son Volt here in Champaign, IL
(1/31) and back in St. Louis (2/23). I haven't seen Son Volt yet, but I hear
the shows are great (I'll always be partial to Farrar's style more than
Tweedy's). I've seen Wilco 3 times; they always have something different in
each set and are great about taking requests.


Mark Elledge

"Switching it over to A.M.
Searching for a truer sound
Can't recall the call letters
Steel guitar and settle down"


George Fiala

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Jan 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/15/96
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I just heard on WFUV here in NYC that the Golden Smog album is due for
release tomorrow (Tuesday the 16th). That is the group you are referring
to, I believe, members of Jayhawks, Soul Asylum, Uncle Tupelo, etc.
--

George Fiala

Blkfrg232

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Jan 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/20/96
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Golden Smog is the one. Also from the Minneapolis connection is the fact
that The Boquist Bros. are 1/2 of Son Volt. Dave Boquist also plays on
John Black's new CD "Streets and Rivers" including some great fiddle
"Stage Diver's Lament" about a mosher who is wondering if he is getting
too old for the pit.

Jeff Weiss

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Apr 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM4/18/96
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hu...@cray.com (Tom Huot) wrote:

>Unfortunately, I discovered both of these bands way too late. Son Volt
>and Wilco have put out an album each which is excellent. The last
>Jayhawks album was also excellent. I had heard that there were former
>members of the Jayhawks joining former Uncle Tupelo members for yet
>another combination. What exactly is the scoop on this?

>Also if anyone has any info on any of these groups, or combinations
>thereof I would love to hear it. Discographies and history are
>welcome.

Tom,

If you, or others are fans of Son Volt, UT and other "Alt
Country" bands I can heartily suggest "No Depression"
magazine. Best way to get info is to send e-mail to
NoDe...@aol.com.

BTW, I have no connection to the magazine other than I think
it is great. The publishers are both nationally known music
journalists.

regards

jeff

Jeff Weiss
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