shenandoah
Amy Crocker
Shenandoah. When was it "written" who wrote it, whose daughter are we
talking about in the lyrics, Was Shenadoah an Indian? I have known this
song all my life, but know very little about it's creation and
inspiration. Thanks for any info!
Amy Crocker
acro...@flash.net
Ada M. Prill
Alan Lomax in "The Folk Songs of North America" says the following:
"_Shenandoah_, the most beautiful of all sea songs in English,probably
began as a voyageur song on the rivers west of the Mississippi, taking its
title from the Indians for whom the great valley of Virginia was named. It
became, somehow, a capstan chantey and then a favourite song of the
regular calvary who sometimes fought the Indians out west, but also fell
in love with and married Indian women."
This doesn't really answer your questions but maybe gives you an idea of
how answerable they may be.
Ada
aerie
daughter.
Ann
Nick Worth wrote in message ...
>I think the Shenandoah in the song is a river. I've never known who the
>daughter was. Beautiful song, though.
>
>Regards,
>Nick
>
>Amy Crocker wrote in message <3847D9...@flash.net>...
Bruce Olson
>
> I think the Shenandoah in the song is a river. I've never known who the
> daughter was. Beautiful song, though.
>
> Regards,
> Nick
>
> Amy Crocker wrote in message <3847D9...@flash.net>...
> >Hi I 'm looking for information regarding the origins of the song
> >Shenandoah. When was it "written" who wrote it, whose daughter are we
> >talking about in the lyrics, Was Shenadoah an Indian? I have known this
> >song all my life, but know very little about it's creation and
> >inspiration. Thanks for any info!
> >
> >Amy Crocker
> >acro...@flash.net
> >
There's a long thread on this subject on the Mudcat Forum. Just search
old threads for 'Shenadoah'. Traced back quite a ways, but no origianl
discovered. However, see Art Thieme's longer song version.
www.mudcat.org/threads.cfm
Bruce Olson
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Stephen Suffet
>
> Shenandoah is an Indian chief so the daughter that's mentioned is his
> daughter.
>
Greetings:
Which explains verses like:
I filled the chief with fire water,
Away, you rolling river!
Then off I went and stole his daughter,
Away, I'm bound away,
Cross the wide Missouri!
By the way, has anyone heard a version of "Shenandoah" that begins
"Oh, Shenandoah, the white mulatto" and which ends with the line "Far
from this world of misery"? It sounds Bahamian.
Regards.
Steve
beverlie
Eric Schluessel
> By the way, has anyone heard a version of "Shenandoah" that begins
> "Oh, Shenandoah, the white mulatto" and which ends with the line "Far
> from this world of misery"? It sounds Bahamian.
Post the lyrics if you've got them. :-) In "American Ballads and Folk
Songs," Lomax says he found "Shenandoah" in the West Indies.
-Eric Schluessel
Abby Sale
> By the way, has anyone heard a version of "Shenandoah" that begins
>"Oh, Shenandoah, the white mulatto" and which ends with the line "Far
>from this world of misery"? It sounds Bahamian.
>
the islands. Although the word 'Shenandoah' isn't mentioned, "world of
misery" occurs in the St. Vincent variant well recorded by the Boarding
Party at DT filename[ SOLIDFAS. There's also the one closer to yours as OH,
MY ROLLING RIVER, also from Abrahams's Deep the Water, Shallow the Shore &
at filename[ SOLIDFA2
Of the 12,000 versions I have in books & records, the only copy I have with
your exact words are on a tape I made at Mystic Festival & sung by "The
Mystic Seaport Chanteymen." I think the lead is Geoff Kaufman. The intro
just suggests that it's a Caribbean whalers' rowing song.
Stephen Suffet
Abby:
Thanks. I'll search the DT.
Maybe you can post the lyrics from the recording you made at Mystic.
I believe I heard that same version of "Shenandoah" sung by chantyman
Frank Woerner, formerly of the X-Seamen's Institute and currently of the
Compass Rogues. I believe Frank appeared at the Mystic Music of the Sea
Festival the year you attended. Frank might even have been among the
group you heard.
Regards,
Steve
David Harris
Digital Tradition if thats any help
David
Abby Sale
<Suf...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Maybe you can post the lyrics from the recording you made at Mystic.
>I believe I heard that same version of "Shenandoah" sung by chantyman
>Frank Woerner, formerly of the X-Seamen's Institute and currently of the
>Compass Rogues. I believe Frank appeared at the Mystic Music of the Sea
>Festival the year you attended.
OK. The tune is pretty standard. The audience got well into it and sang
on the two burdens. I can tell you it went over well. No Frank Woerner
appeared that year but there was a very nice feller & fine singer named
Jeff Warner. I believe I was told he is Frank's son. They sang a lot of
songs straight from Abrahams' book so I figured I'd better go get it even
through I really didn't like him. It's a good book though. Couple of
songs later the "Chantymen" did "Frankie's Trade." What a song!
"Used for rowing boats to go after whales - maybe hauling those whales up
on shore at the end of the day." He notes that "...'cross the wide
Missouri" has become "...from this world of misery"
SHENANDOAH
Oh, Shenandoah, I love your daughter
Hoorah, my rolling river.
Shenandoah, the white mulatta
We are bound away from this world of mis'ry
For seven years I toiled the ocean
Hoorah, my rolling river.
For seven years I never wrote her
We are bound away from this world of mis'ry
I courted Sally, no pen no paper
Hoorah, my rolling river
I courted Sally with foolscap paper
We are bound away from this world of mis'ry
Oh, misery, my captain cry out
Hoorah, my rolling river
Solid fast, my bowman answer
We are bound away from this world of mis'ry
Nobody knows about my toiling
Hoorah, my rolling river
Nobody knows about my danger
We are bound away from this world of mis'ry
Oh, Shenandoah, I love your daughter
Hoorah, my rolling river
Shenandoah, the white mulatta
We are bound away from this world of mis'ry
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---
I am Abby Sale - abby...@orlinter.com (That's in Orlando)
Skate free or die!
Becky Nankivell
...
> appeared that year but there was a very nice feller & fine singer named
> Jeff Warner. I believe I was told he is Frank's son.
Jeff Warner is the son of the late Frank Warner (not Frank Woerner),
who, together with his wife, Anne, collected a wonderful assortment of
songs from mountain and coastal North Carolina, New Hampshire, and New
York state in the 40's, 50's and 60's. Frank also performed. They were
the ones who got "Tom Dooley" from Frank Proffitt of North Carolina, and
"Gilgarrah Mountain" ("Whiskey in the Jar") from Lena Bourne Fish of New
Hampshire.
Their collection, and the story of their collecting and the people who
sang for them, is published as "Traditional American Folk Songs from the
Anne & Frank Warner Collection," by Anne Warner, published by Syracuse
University Press, 1984.
~ Becky Nankivell
Tucson, Arizona
perry lee
> Hi I 'm looking for information regarding the origins of the song
> Shenandoah. When was it "written" who wrote it, whose daughter are we
> talking about in the lyrics, Was Shenadoah an Indian? I have known this
> song all my life, but know very little about it's creation and
> inspiration. Thanks for any info!
>
> Amy Crocker
> acro...@flash.net
>
>
"American sailors pronounced it 'Shanandore,' and it is perhaps the
loveliest -if one may use that word to the men of these ships- of all the
capstan shanties. Its origin is in doubt, but it probably was a shore
song first (out of the Canadian-American voyageur tradition or from Ohio
river boatmen), drifted to the sea as a forecastle song, and then
gradually came above decks to become the hauntingly greatest of all
capstan shanties. It was sung on English as well as American ships, and
the stanzas -as in all other shanties- differ from variant to variant.
barry finn
Happy Hunting, (by the way would you be also know as VicTim? Barry
(http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4257&messages=43 ) and try this
(http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=10763#76580 )
Tom & Vicky Smith <t...@voyager.net> wrote in article
<386f92b6$0$13...@news.voyager.net>...
> I have a different bio for this song. Lumberjacks sang this song and it
was
> picked up as a shanty. Shenandoah was an indian and the singer was
lamenting
> leaving Shenandoah's daughter. Vicky Smith
> perry lee wrote in message ...