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Christopher Peter Gronlund

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Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't
remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've heard.

Thanks . . . . . .Mary

Folk Dude

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Many people have recorded this song, written by Michael Smith,
from Chicago. One of the best-known versions of it was recorded
by Steve Goodman on his 1972 album, "Somebody Else's Troubles".

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JoeSCline

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This thread has been around at least once before in the last several
months, but here goes again:

The Dutchman was written by Michael Smith from Chicago (also wrote Hobo's
Mandolin for Tom Rush). It's been recorded by Steve Goodman (most noted
recording), one of the Clancy Bros. (Liam?), Kingston Trio, among others.

Smith also did the music for Steppenwolfe Theater's production of Grapes
of Wrath a couple of years ago, which went to B'way with Glenne Hedley and
Gary Sinise in lead rolls.

There's a web sight that has bunches of lyrics posted, including, I'm
sure, these, but I'm too much of a dweeb on the net to know address, etc.

Good Luck!

Joe Cline

W.P. Fleischmann

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Christopher Peter Gronlund, cpg...@jove.acs.unt.edu asks:

> Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"?
> I can't remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best
> love songs I've heard.

From the Digital Tradition Folk Song Database

http://web2.xerox.com/digitrad/song/DUTCHMN

THE DUTCHMAN
(Michael Smith)

The Dutchman's not the kind of man
Who keeps his thumb jammed in the dam
That holds his dreams in
But that's a secret that only Margaret knows

When Amsterdam is golden in the summer
Margaret brings him breakfast
She believes him
He thinks the tulips bloom beneath the snow
He`s mad as he can be but Margaret only sees that sometimes
Sometimes she sees her unborn children in his eyes

CHO: Let us go to the banks of the ocean
Where the walls rise above the Zuiderzie
Long ago, I used to be a young man
And dear Margaret remembers that for me

The Dutchman still wears wooden shoes
His cap and coat are patched with the love
That Margaret sewed there
Sometimes he thinks he's still in Rotterdam
He watches the tug boats down canals
And calls out to them when he thinks he knows the Captain
Then Margaret comes to take him home again
Thru unforgiving streets that trick him tho she holds his arm
Sometimes he thinks he's alone and he calls her name

The winters whirl the windmills 'round
She winds his muffler tighter, they sit in the kitchen
Some tea with whiskey keeps away the dew
He sees her for a moment, calls her name
She makes the bed up singing some old love song
A song Margaret learned when it was very new
He hums a line or two, they sing together in the dark
The Dutchman falls asleep and Margaret blows the candle out.


Copyright Michael Smith
Recorded by Steve Goodman

========================

>>Bill
W.P. Fleischmann Internet: fle...@umich.edu
Programmer Analyst CIS: 76256,252
University of Michigan, Anesthesiology

Beverlie Robertson

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Me too, please - I love the song. Beverlie

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Christopher Peter Gronlund <cpg...@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:

> Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't
> remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've heard.
>

Michael Mcguire

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The Dutchman was written by Chicago singer-songwriter Michael Smith. I
believe that it may be in his songbook. It's performed by a wide variety
of performers and is especially popular for some reason with Irish groups.
Witness the Makem & Clancy rendition. It's also a part of the repertoire
of the Irish groups Barleycorn, Barley Bree and others. Great song.
Michael will be performing live at the Grand River Folk Arts Society in
Grand Rapids, MI on December 9, 1995.

M. McGuire


Bev Herzog

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In message Wed, 4 Oct 1995 23:46:57 -0500,

Christopher Peter Gronlund <cpg...@jove.acs.unt.edu> writes:

> Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't
> remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've
> heard.
> Thanks . . . . . .Mary
>

It is on the Makem and Clancy Collection CD, but that doesn't include
words. It's also on a Cashman and West album from the 1970's. I can check
if they included words, but given the age of the album, words are unlikely.

Bev

Bert D. Dodds

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In article <450jle$k...@henry.netaxis.com> rd...@netaxis.com writes:
>From: rd...@netaxis.com
>Subject: Re: Song: The Dutchman
>Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 12:42:05 GMT

>Christopher Peter Gronlund <cpg...@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:

>>Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't
>>remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've heard.

>>Thanks . . . . . .Mary

>I have song called The Dutchman on a Kingston Trio CD called The Lost
>Masters, 1969-1972. It was written by a Mike Smith. I'd never heard
>the song before I bought the CD, which is a new release, and is
>available from Rediscover Music (800-232-7328). I haven't transcribed
>the words, but can try to do so for you if this is the song. E-mail
>me, since I don't always wade through the posts here. Rick in CT
> :::---oO ::---O ::--oO

Michael Smith o' Chicago wrote (also wrote many more great songs)...Steve
Goodman was kinda known for this song. It's on a few of his albums, but
the most beautiful recording is on "Unfinished Business" released a few
years after he died. I too know the words in me head, but I'll check and
see if someone else sent them, as I'm quite the slow type-guy.

Bert D.

Doug Passey

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Florence Rapp

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>Christopher Peter Gronlund <cpg...@jove.acs.unt.edu> writes:
>
>> Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"?
>> I can't remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love
>> songs I've heard.
>>
>>Thanks . . . . . .Mary
>

This is how I remember the words:


The Dutchman's not the kind of man
To keep his thumb jammed in the dam
That holds his dreams in.
But that's a secret only Margaret knows.

When Amsterdam is golden, in the morning,
Margaret brings him breakfast,
She believes him.
Sometimes he thinks the tulips bloom beneath the snows.

He's mad as he can be,
But Margaret only sees that sometimes,
Sometimes she sees her unborn children in his eyes.

Chorus:
Let us go to the banks of the ocean,
Where the walls rise above the Zuider Zee,
Long ago, I used to be a young man,
And dear Margaret remembers that for me.

The Dutchman still wears wooden shoes,
His cap and coat are patched with love
That Margaret sewed him.
Sometimes he thinks he's still in Rotterdam.

He watches tugboats down canals
And calls out to them when he thinks
He knows the captain
Till Margaret comes to take him home again

Through unforgiving streets
That trip him though she holds his arm,
Sometimes he thinks that he's alone
And calls her name.

(Chorus)

Windmills swirl the winter rain,
She winds his muffler tighter, they sit
In the kitchen.
And the tea with whisky keeps away the dew.

He sees her for a moment, calls her name,
She makes his bed up humming
Some old love song.
She learned it when the tune was very new.

He hums a line or two,
They hum together in the night,
The Dutchman falls asleep and Margaret
Blows the candle out.

(Chorus)


Certainly the most moving song about aging I have ever heard, and not a
slouch as a love song, either.


Florence

Joseph C Fineman

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>Who keeps his thumb jammed in the dam

>He thinks the tulips bloom beneath the snow

> Where the walls rise above the Zuiderzie

>The Dutchman still wears wooden shoes

>The winters whirl the windmills 'round

What, no Gouda cheese?
--
Joe Fineman j...@world.std.com
239 Clinton Road (617) 731-9190
Brookline, MA 02146

MIKE REGENSTREIF

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In article <450jle$k...@henry.netaxis.com>, rd...@netaxis.com writes:
>Christopher Peter Gronlund <cpg...@jove.acs.unt.edu> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't
>>remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've heard.
>
>>Thanks . . . . . .Mary
>
>I have song called The Dutchman on a Kingston Trio CD called The Lost
>Masters, 1969-1972. It was written by a Mike Smith. I'd never heard
>the song before I bought the CD, which is a new release, and is
>available from Rediscover Music (800-232-7328). I haven't transcribed
>the words, but can try to do so for you if this is the song. E-mail
>me, since I don't always wade through the posts here. Rick in CT
> :::---oO ::---O ::--oO
>

"The Dutchman" has been recorded by a lot of people over the
past 20+ years. Probably the classic version is by Steve Goodman on
his SOMEBODY ELSE'S TROUBLES (Buddah) album. The composer, Michael Smith, does
it beautifully on MICHAEL SMITH (Flying Fish).

Other good versions include those by Anne Hills on OCTOBER CHILD
(Flying Fish) which is a whole album of Michael Smith songs, Josh White, Jr.
on SING A RAINBOW (Mountain Railroad), Tommy Makem & Liam Clancy on
THE MAKEM & CLANCY CONCERT (Columbia).

It's also been done by Robert James Waller on BALLADS FROM MADISON
COUNTY (Atlantic) and I know that Jerry Jeff Walker did it on one of his
more recent albums.

I'm sure there are lots of other versions that are not springing
instantly to mind.

IMOHO, "The Dutchman" is one of the greatest songs I've ever heard.

Mike Regenstreif
"Folk Roots/Folk Branches" on CKUT in Montreal
mre...@vax2.concordia.ca

b5...@usa1.com

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>> Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't
>> remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've
heard.
>>
>> Thanks . . . . . .Mary

"The Dutchman" is a beautiful song written by the late Steve Goodman. The
best version I've heard of it was done by Liam Clancy and Tommy Makem on one
of their later LPs. If anyone is interested, I believe the lyrics and
chords are in OLGA (the online guitar archive).

~ Bob


Joseph C Fineman

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char...@cs.athabascau.ca (Charles van Duren) writes:

>To this Dutchman, the song has always sounded weird because of the
>random and awkward references to things supposedly Dutch.

>Poetic license, I suppose.

Yeah, it seems to me to have been a conceit of the author's to get in
one mention of everything an American would think of in connection
with Holland. That sort of thing isn't very conspicuous on first
hearing, but after singing the song many times (it is popular at sings
I go to) it becomes a bit of an irritant.

"All My Trials" & "Mandalay" are two other songs that I like but whose
authors, IMHO, have made distracting blunders in them.

Charles van Duren

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j...@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman) writes:

#>Who keeps his thumb jammed in the dam

#>He thinks the tulips bloom beneath the snow

#> Where the walls rise above the Zuiderzie

#>The Dutchman still wears wooden shoes

#>The winters whirl the windmills 'round

#What, no Gouda cheese?

Exactly my reaction to this song. Nice love song, but it could have
been called "The Chinaman" by replacing the above Dutch names and
cultural icons with Chinese ones.

To this Dutchman, the song has always sounded weird because of the
random and awkward references to things supposedly Dutch.

Poetic license, I suppose.

CvD

MIKE REGENSTREIF

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As I -- and several others -- have written in the past few days,
"The Dutchman" was written by MICHAEL SMITH. Steve Goodman did a great
version of it but I always heard him credit Michael Smith when he performed
it in concert. Both of Steve's recordings of "The Dutchman" also credit
Michael Smith.

Mike Regenstreif
"Folk Roots/Folk Branches" on CKUT in Montreal
mre...@vax2.concordia.ca

or on record

Al Price

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bdd...@students.wisc.edu (Bert D. Dodds) wrote:


>Michael Smith o' Chicago wrote (also wrote many more great songs)...Steve
>Goodman was kinda known for this song. It's on a few of his albums, but
>the most beautiful recording is on "Unfinished Business" released a few
>years after he died. I too know the words in me head, but I'll check and
>see if someone else sent them, as I'm quite the slow type-guy.
>
>Bert D.

Smith also did a very touching live recroding of this great song on the "Tribute to Steve Goodman" album. God, I miss Steve Goodm=
an's wit, charm and musicianship.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * :/:
* Just * ./
* PICK it. * /
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * (_)

Robin Hopper

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I agree - the Dutchman is one of the most beautiful love songs I've ever
heard. It's been a while since I've included it in one of my set lists,
but I'll see if I can remember the words for you. Robin Hopper
-------------

The Dutchman's not the kind of man
Who keeps his fingers in the dam that
Holds his dreams in.

But that's a secret only Margaret knows.
When Amsterdam is golden in the summer,
Margaret brings him breakfast.
She believes him.
He thinks the tulips bloom beneath the snow.

He's mad as he can be,
But Margaret only sees that sometimes.
Sometimes she sees the unborn children in his eyes.

REFRAIN
Let us go to the banks by the ocean.
Where the walls rise above the Zyder Zee.


Long ago, I used to be a young man,
And dear Margaret remembers that for me.

The Dutchman still wears wooden shoes.
His coat and cap are patched with love
That Margaret sewed with.


Sometimes he thinks he's still in Rotterdam.

He watches tugboats down canals,


And calls out to them

When he thinks he knows the captain.
Til Margaret comes to take him home again.
Through unforgiving streets that trip him,
Though she holds his hand.
Sometimes he thinks that he's alone,
And he calls out to her.

REFRAIN

The winter whirls the windmills down,
She wraps his muffler tighter
As they sit in the kitchen.
Some tea with whiskey keeps away the dew.


He sees her for a moment, calls her name,

She makes the bed up singing some old love song.
A song that Margaret learned when it was new.
He hums a line or two, they sing together in the dark.
The Dutchman falls asleep,
And Margaret blows the candle out.

REFRAIN

I may have missed a word or two, but that's the way I remember it. I've
written one recently along the same lines called "A Long Goodbye". It
was inspired by a sentence I heard in a speech that Nancy Regan was
giving last June about Alzheimers. I recorded it and sent her a copy.
Just got a reply from her last week, and then a few days ago, saw the
same phrase used on the cover of Newsweek as the headline of an
interview she did with them. E-mail me if you're interested in a copy
of the lyrics. Robin Hopper


Robin Hopper

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Barrie McCombs

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A wonderful song and good discussion! But the thread gets boring when
people respond by copying the previous message. Like one poster said, it
loses impact with repetition.
- Barrie

Jack H. Cole

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b5...@usa1.com (b5...@usa1.com) wrote:


: >> Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't

: >> remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've
: heard.
: >>
: >> Thanks . . . . . .Mary

: "The Dutchman" is a beautiful song written by the late Steve Goodman. The
: best version I've heard of it was done by Liam Clancy and Tommy Makem on one
: of their later LPs. If anyone is interested, I believe the lyrics and
: chords are in OLGA (the online guitar archive).
:
: ~ Bob


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Florence Rapp

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BTW, everyone keeps saying how "The Dutchman" was recorded by Makem and
Clancy, and yes, it was, but it was Liam Clancy who performed the song, and
his version is still the best I've heard.


I just wanted to put in a plug for him after I heard how Joan Baez skewered
"The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" on her new album, another song done
infinitely better by Liam Clancy. That's actually the first song I heard
him sing - had no idea who he was, had never heard the song, but caught his
performance on TV by some chance, and was blown away. He is about as fine
a singer of ballads as there is, as far as I am concerned.


Florence

Jeanne

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I sent a tape of music to a friend in Rotterdam, including Steve Goodman
singing 'The Dutchman.' Bad move. Although I *love* the song, he found the
'Dutch' references absurd, especally the pronouncation of 'Zuiderzie'. Oh
well... at least he did say the guitar playing was great.

--
..........Jeanne Mangum...............2jlm@cwo.com............
The Internet:
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
We must be cautious.........................THX@OB1.Kenobi.com


Jim Cavin

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I had the pleasure of seeing Michael Smith perform last night. The
pictures in his music wrapped me up and carried me away.


==========================================
= Jim Cavin Seattle WA =
= ji...@nwlink.com ji...@well.sf.ca.us =
= Compuserve: 73530,364 =
==========================================

Zander D

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I just read all the prior posts about The Dutchman. My name is Dolly
Zander and I administer Michael Smith's catalog out of my Denver office.
Please note that the lyrics as posted on the web are slightly inaccurate
-- they were no doubt taken from Goodman's recording wherein he
inadvertently changed a few words here and there. The correct lyrics as
well as a lead sheet are available in Mike's songbook. Let me know if
you'd like to get a copy. His catalog presently has over 200 titles --
anyone interested in The Dutchman or other songs, or seeking permission to
use the material can contact me via e-mail, via snail mail (200 Logan
Street, Denver, CO 80203) or via phone (303 733 2106). I'd be happy to
provide any additional information sought. Also, if anyone has any
knowledge of a recording of The Dutchman (or of another Smith song called
"Spoon River"), I'd greatly appreciate your contacting me. Likewise for a
cover of The Dutchman by David Soul (formerly of Starsky and Hutch TV
fame), who word has it claimed authorship of the song while performing in
Australia, or by The Four Freshman years back, I'd love to hear from you.
With thanks and best wishes,
Dolly Zander

Fred Bulger

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b5...@usa1.com (b5...@usa1.com) wrote:


: >> Does anyone have the words to a song called "The Dutchman"? I can't
: >> remember who sang it, just that it's one of the best love songs I've
: heard.
: >>
: >> Thanks . . . . . .Mary

: "The Dutchman" is a beautiful song written by the late Steve Goodman. The

As I recall, it was not written by Steve Goodman, but by Michael
Smith. It is a beautiful song indeed!

Later...

-Fred.


Whitey

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>I just wanted to put in a plug for him after I heard how Joan Baez skewered
>"The Band Played Waltzing Matilda" on her new album, another song done
>infinitely better by Liam Clancy.

I think (as with some other things) your first "The Band Played Waltzing
Matilda" is bound to be your best - or at least most unforgettable version.
My first version was by Prisilla Herdman on "The Water Lily".

I haven't herd J. Baez's version, but I have heard at least 20 different
artists perform it, all very diffrent and I truly doubt that this song could
be "skewered"!


Florence Rapp

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On Oct 09, 1995 20:20:04 in article <Re: Song: The Dutchman>,

'mack...@wildlife.dnr.state.mi.us (Whitey)' wrote:



>
>I think (as with some other things) your first "The Band Played Waltzing
>Matilda" is bound to be your best - or at least most unforgettable
version.
>My first version was by Prisilla Herdman on "The Water Lily".

You have a point there.
>
>I haven't herd J. Baez's version, but I have heard at least 20 different
>artists perform it, all very diffrent and I truly doubt that this song
could
>be "skewered"!

No, I exaggerated. But I don't think it's a good song for a woman, perhaps
especially one with a beautiful voice, and it bothered me that she left out
a lot of the words.

Zander D

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And speaking of Shane McGowan, have you heard Mojo Nixon's song "Shane's
Dentist"?
D Zander

George Black

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>>My first version was by Prisilla Herdman on "The Water Lily".

What has become of Priscilla. Last time seen at a Folk Festival in Palmerston
North, New Zealand.
Has she put out any more records?
I have The Water Lily and Forgotten Dreams.
Regards


MIKE REGENSTREIF

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Priscilla lives in Pine Plains, NY and continues to perform and
record. Her albums are all in print and available on CD and cassette.
They are:

The Water Lily (Philo)
Forgotten Dreams (Flying Fish)
Seasons of Change (Flying Fish)
Darkness Into Light (Flying Fish)
Star Dreamer (Alacazam)
Daydreamer (Music for Little People)
Forever and Always (Flying Fish).

Also, there is a superb trio album with Anne Hills and Cindy
Mangsen: Voices (Flying Fish).

Cheryl Shipman

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George Black (gbl...@midland.co.nz) wrote:

: >>My first version was by Prisilla Herdman on "The Water Lily".

: What has become of Priscilla. Last time seen at a Folk Festival in
Palmerston : North, New Zealand. : Has she put out any more records? : I
have The Water Lily and Forgotten Dreams. : Regards

Priscilla Played the Cherry Tree Music Coop in Philadelphia last night.
Water Lily is now out on CD. She has an extensive discography - perhaps
someone with a more comprehensive memory than I will post it for you.
I'm too tired from stacking the chairs.

Cheryl
hon...@sas.upenn.edu
unofficial but electronic voice of the Cherry Tree

Whitey

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In article <45v2ul$m...@calvino.alaska.net>, njn...@alaska.net says...

>
>gbl...@midland.co.nz (George Black) wrote:
>>
>>>>My first version was by Prisilla Herdman on "The Water Lily".
>>
>>What has become of Priscilla. Last time seen at a Folk Festival in
Palmerston
>>North, New Zealand.
>Has she put out any more records?
>>
>I just bought her CD "FOREVER AND ALWAYS", c. 1994, by Flying Fish Records.
Libby Roderick from Anchorage had sent a message to me that Priscilla might be
interested in hearing a song I wrote called Mama's Kisses for a possible
future recording, and I wanted to hear how she sounds and what kind of stuff
she does before I responded. It's an album of beautiful love songs - my
favorite being the vocal version of Ashokan Farewell. I've quickly added that
one to my set list, and people love to hear it! Here's the list of cut>s:

__
If you like her albums, a live performace is vital. Seeing Priscilla the
first time Her voice astounded me. The only other time I've heard so vast a
difference between recorded and live music was the first time I went to a
symphony. She gets my vote for the sweetest female vocalist around (even
though I perfer many other womens material). I imagine she can only do good
for your song. Good Luck!

Whitey


Thomas M. Payerle

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Oct 18, 1995, 3:00:00 AM10/18/95
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Anne Hills has an album _October's Child_ wherein she does a number of
Micheal Smith songs, including _The_Dutchman_. Have heard selections from it
on the radio, as well as seeing her and Micheal in concert, and will certainly
be buying a copy when I can budget it.
Tom Payerle

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