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Tim Hilliard

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Jan 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/20/96
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<4dr9g0$q...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lold...@aol.com said...
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>Johnny Be Fair is a rather humorous song about a daughter who ...
>... and have always had the impression that Buffy
>St. Marie wrote it, but have never been able to get confirmation
>nor find it recorded anywhere. Any ideas?

Just went and looked at the albums and they credit it to her, so you are
right.

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LOlds4357

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Jan 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/20/96
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Johnny Be Fair is a rather humorous song about a daughter who can't marry
any of the boys in town because her father has, uh, gotten around. But
the punch line is that actually she can, because Mom got around too. I
learned this song at Girl Scout Camp (for those of you who also got your
folk music start at G.S., appreciate that this is one we weren't allowed
to sing in "Main Camp"...) and have always had the impression that Buffy

St. Marie wrote it, but have never been able to get confirmation nor find
it recorded anywhere. Any ideas?

Liz Olds

mcre...@delphi.com

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Jan 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/21/96
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Tim Hilliard <hill...@wln.com> writes:

>>Johnny Be Fair is a rather humorous song about a daughter who ...
>>... and have always had the impression that Buffy

>>St. Marie wrote it, but have never been able to get confirmation
>>nor find it recorded anywhere. Any ideas?
>
>Just went and looked at the albums and they credit it to her, so you are
>right.

There is a much older version, set in the black community during Prohibition
"...at bootlegging he's fine...he says that Packard [car] is just the same
as mine..." [description of one of the boys). I have no idea who wrote that
one; I found it in typescript in an envelope in my husband's grandmother's
stuff.

There is also a science fictional version, "Starship Unity", by Ann Passovoy,
wherein the girl and her mother are part of a starship's mixed-race crew,
the father's the Captain, and her boyfriends...are not human (then, she may
not be, either: "...and comb your hair so blue/ You know a Starship's
Captain is a father to the crew...He's not the critter that sired you, so
marry whom you will!").

Mary the Filker

Rocky Bivens

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Jan 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/21/96
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LOlds4357 (lold...@aol.com) writes:
> Johnny Be Fair is a rather humorous song about a daughter who can't marry
> any of the boys in town because her father has, uh, gotten around. But
> the punch line is that actually she can, because Mom got around too. I
> learned this song at Girl Scout Camp (for those of you who also got your
> folk music start at G.S., appreciate that this is one we weren't allowed
> to sing in "Main Camp"...) and have always had the impression that Buffy

> St. Marie wrote it, but have never been able to get confirmation nor find
> it recorded anywhere. Any ideas?
>
> Liz Olds

There is also a version, identified by the Digital Tradition, as Shame and
Scandal donw by Donaldson, Brown.

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Ted Keener

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Jan 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/23/96
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RB>LOlds4357 (lold...@aol.com) writes:
RB>> Johnny Be Fair is a rather humorous song about a daughter who can't
RB>> marry any of the boys in town because her father has, uh, gotten
RB>> around. But the punch line is that actually she can, because Mom
RB>> got around too. I learned this song at Girl Scout Camp (for those
RB>> of you who also got your folk music start at G.S., appreciate that
RB>> this is one we weren't allowed to sing in "Main Camp"...) and have
RB>> always had the impression that Buffy St. Marie wrote it, but have
RB>> never been able to get confirmation nor find it recorded anywhere.
RB>> Any ideas?

RB>> Liz Olds

RB>There is also a version, identified by the Digital Tradition, as
RB>Shame and Scandal donw by Donaldson, Brown.

The Kingston Trio recorded one in their hungry i return performance
about 1967-68 called Ah Woe, Ah Me. They describe it as "a dirty, old
Calypso song." However it is sung from the male perspective; it's the
son not the daughter. Part of the chorus goes:
Ah, woe... ah, me.
Shame & scandal on de family.

The album name is "Back in Town...", Capitol ST2081


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mcre...@delphi.com

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Jan 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/24/96
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Forgot to mention: title is listed as "Kinfolks".

Mary the Filker

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