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Steve Kudrick

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Jul 22, 2001, 5:52:12 PM7/22/01
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Anyone have mp3 files of Turnaround or Night Guard to send me?


Asterophe

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Jul 27, 2001, 1:48:02 PM7/27/01
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I read the previous postings in this thread with great interest. It
was my pleasure to discover Stan Rogers through the music of Gordon
Lightfoot and my friendship with other Lightfoot appreciators. I
couldn't decide which CD to buy first, so I thought I'd start with
Fogarty's Cove (simply because I heard that version of Barrett's
Privateers on Folk Roots and Branches earlier.)

I'm so sorry I didn't find him sooner! One of my young friends says
that he likes Garnet 'even better than Stan', but I haven't yet made
the comparison. I see that there are a host of opinions on that
subject, too. How lucky some of you were to see him 'live'. Makes me
wish that there really WAS a time machine.

In any case, I'd like to thank everyone for being so generous with
their knowledge.

Aster

Polar

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Jul 28, 2001, 2:19:21 AM7/28/01
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I first heard of Stan Rogers few years ago when I was kayaking in the
Bligh Archipelago off the W. Coast of Vancouver Island. One of the
guides sang "Northwest Passage", and I was a goner! I had read about
the NW Passage for years, and ad finally traversed the Passage with a
Canadian outfit a few years earlier; dream come true. So you can
magine my emotion when I heard that song!

Soon as I got off the trip and back to Victoria, I rushed to a music
shop and bought everything they had in Stan Rogers. Some are
less terrific than others, but overall, not only the music but the
POETRY is sublime. "Field Behind the Plow:", e.g. So many other
great songs.

Why are the good taken and the assholes remain...!

.
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Polar

Vem R D?

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Aug 18, 2001, 1:46:55 PM8/18/01
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What is the link between Rogers and Lightfoot?

On 27 Jul 2001 10:48:02 -0700, aste...@aol.com (Asterophe) wrote:

MSchm99999

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Aug 19, 2001, 12:39:24 AM8/19/01
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The main similarity that occurs to me is that both are Canadian,
and that Stan wrote epic, Canadian-themed songs throughout his
career. Lightfoot was famous for epic, Canadian-themed songs
back in the '70s.

I was fortunate enough to see the Stan Rogers band twice. The
first was in the fall of 1982, at the famed "Rogers Family Reunion"
in Madison, Wisconsin. (The other acts were Gambel Rogers and
Sally Rogers--not related to Stan or each other--it's a long story.)
The second was at the now-defunct Bunky's in Madison in March
1983.

I enjoy Garnet's work, have all his recordings and go to his shows
when he's in the neighborhood. The themes of his songs tend to be
more personal than epic.

Mary

Mary
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too
dark to read."--Groucho Marx
(Remove "haha" from address to reply.)

Valerie L. Magee

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Aug 20, 2001, 10:49:12 AM8/20/01
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Gordon Lightfoot was Stan Rogers' idol. So the "similarity" wasn't just
coincidence, but in many cases it was undoubtedly inspiration. If you go
to the Stan Rogers web site at http://stevebriggs.superb.net/stanrogers/
, and look under 1970 on the "Timeline", you will see the acknowledgment
of Lightfoot. It is also mentioned in Rogers' biography.

Vem R D? wrote:
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> What is the link between Rogers and Lightfoot?

--
Regards,

Valerie

Visit some of my web sites - (Unofficial) Gordon Lightfoot at
http://gordonlightfoot.com
... Michael Jerling site at http://michaeljerling.com
... Artist's retreat Yaddo at http://yaddo.org

HerCathyness

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Aug 26, 2001, 2:46:32 AM8/26/01
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In a sad and ironic sidenote, Gamble Rogers also died a hero, drowned while
trying to save a child who'd fallen in the water on an outing.


Abby Sale

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Aug 26, 2001, 6:47:05 PM8/26/01
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 06:46:32 GMT, "HerCathyness" <c...@hercathyness.org>
wrote:

>In a sad and ironic sidenote, Gamble Rogers also died a hero, drowned while
>trying to save a child who'd fallen in the water on an outing.
>

It's a good story so maybe I shouldn't say anything. Hmmm. And on second
thought, I won't.

I'm not sure, but you may be referring to Stan Rogers and the Airplane
here. The only thing I'd debunk is thay you know that Gamble was not
related to Stan, I assume.


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MSchm99999

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Aug 27, 2001, 2:12:00 AM8/27/01
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ANTI-SP...@ft.newyourklife.com wrote:

On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 06:46:32 GMT, "HerCathyness" <c...@hercathyness.org>
wrote:
>
>>In a sad and ironic sidenote, Gamble Rogers also died a hero, drowned >>while
>>trying to save a child who'd fallen in the water on an outing.
>
>It's a good story so maybe I shouldn't say anything. Hmmm. And on >second
>thought, I won't.
>
>I'm not sure, but you may be referring to Stan Rogers and the Airplane
>here. The only thing I'd debunk is thay you know that Gamble was not
>related to Stan, I assume.

Stan Rogers died on June 2, 1983 when a commercial flight he
was on landed in flames at the Greater Cincinnati Airport.
Reportedly he had gone back to help others get off the plane
filled with blinding smoke and fumes. Sometime later (can't
recall exactly when), Gamble Rogers drowned trying to rescue
someone on an outing, so both events did happen. That's what's
sad and ironic about Gamble's death following Stan's like that,
that both died trying to rescue others.

Correct, these Rogers are not related. The "connection" that makes
the two deaths sad and ironic is that about twenty years ago
Wisconsin Public Radio's "Simply Folk" show played recorded sets
by Stan Rogers, Sally Rogers and Gamble Rogers all on the same
evening and, for fun, dubbed it "The Rogers Family Reunion." In
September 1982, all of these performers (including Stan's sidemen Garnet
Rogers and Jim Morison--the only performer onstage NOT
named Rogers) gamely performed a super show in Madison, Wisconsin. This was
mentioned briefly earlier in this thread.

Doug Ashford

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Aug 29, 2001, 2:35:04 PM8/29/01
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Abby Sale wrote:
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> On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 06:46:32 GMT, "HerCathyness" <c...@hercathyness.org>
> wrote:
>
> >In a sad and ironic sidenote, Gamble Rogers also died a hero, drowned while
> >trying to save a child who'd fallen in the water on an outing.
> >
> It's a good story so maybe I shouldn't say anything. Hmmm. And on second
> thought, I won't.

The memorial web site for Gamble Rogers <http://www.gamblerogers.com>
says that he gave up his own life while trying to save a drowning man.
I remember contemporaneous news reports said the same.

Doug

Abby Sale

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Sep 20, 2001, 9:10:11 AM9/20/01
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:23:13 GMT, Richard L. Hess <ric...@richardhess.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 29 Aug 2001 18:35:04 GMT, Doug Ashford <dash...@prodigy.net>
>wrote:


>
>>The memorial web site for Gamble Rogers <http://www.gamblerogers.com>
>>says that he gave up his own life while trying to save a drowning man.
>>I remember contemporaneous news reports said the same.
>>

>And Steve Gillette regulary performs "Song for Gamble" as a tribute.
>
And he do it well, too.

I'll be in Raleigh (North, not South) that day but on 9/24/1992, Gamble
Rogers (posthumously) received, the Carnegie Medal, for heroism.

There's no question of what the man did - died, as Gillette says, 'holding
out his hand.' As I recall it was just the details that were a bit
scrambled in the posting and the mix-up as to how Stan died (tragically and
all too soon, but not heroically.)

TAsher

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Sep 21, 2001, 3:11:35 AM9/21/01
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> There's no question of what the man did - died, as Gillette says, 'holding
> out his hand.' As I recall it was just the details that were a bit
> scrambled in the posting and the mix-up as to how Stan died (tragically and
> all too soon, but not heroically.)
>

I had heard that some of the survivors of the plane fire that killed Stan
Rogers afterwards recognized him as one of the passengers that was helping
others get to safety. He died a hero while trying to help save others. I think
I heard this on a recording of one of the tribute programs.

Terri

Harold Groot

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Sep 21, 2001, 7:29:27 AM9/21/01
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On Fri, 21 Sep 2001 00:11:35 -0700, TAsher <fo...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>I had heard that some of the survivors of the plane fire that killed Stan
>Rogers afterwards recognized him as one of the passengers that was helping
>others get to safety. He died a hero while trying to help save others. I >think I heard this on a recording of one of the tribute programs.

This story was widely spread at the time of his death, but apparently
the people who thought they recognized him were mistaken. If I recall
correctly, the official report said his body was found still in his
assigned seat. I =think= it also said his seatbelt was still
fastened, but I'm not sure of that part.


Steven G.

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Sep 25, 2001, 5:57:35 PM9/25/01
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Hello, all

I would like to add something to this topic.

Well, Stan Rogers wrote some timeless classics, like Make and Break
Harbour, and Barrett's Privateers. I really got into his music because
he wrote all about the everyday person in Canada, from a farmer in
Western Canada to the fisherman in Eastern Canada. He was a gifted
songwriter, and a great singer, and it is a shame that he passed away
in 1983.

As I was reading about Stan Rogers, I found out as well, that Gordon
Lightfoot was Stan's idol. When he started listening to folk music, he
really enjoyed Gordon Lightfoot's music, and one particular song,
Canadian Railway Trilogy. Which is was Stan's favorite and mine as
well.

It was Stan Rogers and Gordon Lightfoot music that got me into folk
music, and I considered both of them my idols. It is a shame that Stan
Rogers passed away, but his music lives on. And any chance I get, I
play some of his timeless classics at a party.

Thanks for your time,

Steven G.

Rob Willson

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Nov 21, 2001, 8:38:35 AM11/21/01
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Have you Nathan Rogers play? He sounds a bit like Stan, does his own stuff
and does Curt Kobain as well. Pretty fine in his own right.

Er...@home.sick

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Dec 11, 2001, 1:57:22 PM12/11/01
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2001 13:38:35 GMT, Rob Willson
<wil...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:

>Have you Nathan Rogers play? He sounds a bit like Stan, does his own stuff
>and does Curt Kobain as well. Pretty fine in his own right.

Garnet Rogers (Stan's younger(?) brother) also has a couple of
interesting recordings.

Erik Dutton
Charlotte, NC
USA

Rilla Heslin

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Dec 11, 2001, 6:40:41 PM12/11/01
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Yes, Garnet is the younger brother. Got his start in Stan's band. Is a
brilliant fiddler and a right good singer as well. Hard to make it in
the shadow of his legendary brother, but he is quite good on his own!

Rilla

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