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Rolf Holle

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Jun 7, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/7/95
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Does anyone know which LPs have been recorded by the Young Tradition and
whether any of them are available on CD? I have only one LP which is
called "Galleries Revisited" and contains very strong songs and excellent
singing. Rolf Holle

john...@halcyon.com

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Jun 8, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/8/95
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> r...@imbi.uni-heidelberg.de (Rolf Holle) writes:
> Does anyone know which LPs have been recorded by the Young Tradition and
> whether any of them are available on CD?

UK Issues:

Transatlatic TRA 142 The Young Tradition 1966
TRA 155 So Cheerfully Round 1967
TRA 164 (7" EP) Chicken on a Raft 1967
TRA 172 Galleries 1968
TRASAM13 The Young Tradition Sampler 1969
TRASAM30 Galleries Revisited

Argo Not Released The Holly Bears The Crown 1969

US Issues:

Vanguard VSD79246 The Young Tradition
VSD79295 Galleries

Notes: The Young Tradition Sampler was a re-issue of material from the first three
Transatlantic releases, including the entire contents of the EP.

Galleries Revisted was a full re-issue of Galleries

The first Vanguard release contains material from the first two Transatlantic titles.


Sean Smith

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Jun 12, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/12/95
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In article <rh-070695...@mac5.imbi.uni-heidelberg.de>, r...@imbi.uni-heidelberg.de (Rolf Holle) writes:
> Does anyone know which LPs have been recorded by the Young Tradition and
> whether any of them are available on CD? I have only one LP which is
> called "Galleries Revisited" and contains very strong songs and excellent
> singing. Rolf Holle

Some more knowledgable person is going to have to finish this off, but--

The first two Young Tradition albums were pared down by Elektra and released in
the US as a "compilation" of sorts: tracks include "The Innocent Hare," "Byker
Hill," "Rambleaway," "The Old Miser" and "Lykewake Dirge." But Elektra, as far
as I know anyway, did release "Galleries" (dubbed by a friend of mine as the
"Sgt. Pepper" of the British folk revival) in its entirety, albeit with a
rather insipid cover illustration. I think Transatlantic may have subsequently
re-released that album in the '70s--I remember seeing it with a much more
appropriate cover.
There may be more Young Tradition stuff floating around out there, but I'll
have to defer to someone else for further details. I will note, however, that
the Young Tradition gathered on occasion on each other's albums--Royston and
Heather Woods' "No Relation," for instance, and a couple of Peter Bellamy's solo
efforts.
I certainly agree with the "very strong songs and excellent singing"
description. Their rendition of "Agincourt Carol" still sends shivers up and
down my spine.


Sean Smith
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Paul J. Stamler

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Jun 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/19/95
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The label that released the excerpted version of the early Young
Tradition albums was Vanguard, not Elektra; the catalog numbers were
VSD-79246 (stereo) and VRS-9246 (mono), in case you're searching.
Vanguard also did the US release of "Galleries", and the "rather insipid"
cover you refer to was the original English cover from Transatlantic,
which I bought around 1969. "Galleries Revisited" had a more sedate, less
"60s" cover, which I regret. After all, this was a quintessential 60s
album. As far as I know, none of these albums has been reissued intact; a
CD of Young Tradition material came out which Peter Bellamy described as
a "bloody abomination". AS he pointed out, they were basically an a
capella band. So the CD started out with an instrumental track, on which
none of them played!!?!

Anyone out there got a spare coupla thousand bucks to put these out?
Assuming Transatlantic or its corporate heirs would be willing, of course.

Peace.
Paul

Sean Smith

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Jun 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/19/95
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In article <3s4cgj$e...@crl6.crl.com>, psta...@crl.com (Paul J. Stamler) writes:
> The label that released the excerpted version of the early Young
> Tradition albums was Vanguard, not Elektra;

Thanks for setting the, er, record straight--the night after I posted that
reply I had a hankering to listen to "Galleries," and discovered I'd been in
error.

> Vanguard also did the US release of "Galleries", and the "rather insipid"
> cover you refer to was the original English cover from Transatlantic,
> which I bought around 1969. "Galleries Revisited" had a more sedate, less
> "60s" cover, which I regret. After all, this was a quintessential 60s
> album.

Oh, I guess you're right--hell, I don't really care that much what the album
cover looks like; I still love listening to the thing.

As far as I know, none of these albums has been reissued intact; a
> CD of Young Tradition material came out which Peter Bellamy described as
> a "bloody abomination". AS he pointed out, they were basically an a
> capella band. So the CD started out with an instrumental track, on which
> none of them played!!?!
>

Would that be "Pembroke Unique Ensemble," from "Galleries"? The one with Dave
Swarbrick playing the multi-tracked fiddles and mandolin, and Sandy Denny on
piano (not credited in the Vanguard release). That's the only one I know of in
which none of YT actually appeared. On "Ductia" and "Medieval Mystery Tour,"
Peter Bellamy and Heather Wood played whistles, and Royston Wood was the
percussionist.
BTW, I was grateful for that re-release of "Galleries," since it gave all sorts
of fun little details. For instance, it mentions that on "Stones in My
Passway," the scratches we hear (to make it sound like an old 78) were taken
from a military band 78 recording. But I'm blanking out now--WHOSE
footsteps are those on the opening track of Side 2?

Sean Smith

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Jun 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/23/95
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In article <BK98mLS...@delphi.com>, Joel Bernstein <ber...@delphi.com> writes:

> Sean Smith <smt...@bcvms.bc.edu> writes:
>
>>BTW, I was grateful for that re-release of "Galleries," since it gave all sorts
>>of fun little details. For instance, it mentions that on "Stones in My
>>Passway," the scratches we hear (to make it sound like an old 78) were taken
>>from a military band 78 recording. But I'm blanking out now--WHOSE
>>footsteps are those on the opening track of Side 2?
>
> I believe those to be Peter's, if I remember correctly. Joel

Nope. A kind soul wrote to remind me that they were Ian Campbell's. Yet another
person on the album who had collaborated with Dave Swarbrick ("Dave Swarbrick:
Center of the Folk Universe"?)

Sean Smith
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Joel Bernstein

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Jun 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/23/95
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HappyT

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Jun 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM6/24/95
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One of my great and everlasting musical memories has to do with the Young
Tradition. They visited us in Woodstock in the late sixties on what might
have been their first U.S. trip, and we became good friends. We took them
to a small, crude, hand-hewn wooden church high on the slopes of Overlook
Mountain to meet the old radical priest Father Francis, who built the
church and lived in it - without running water or electricity. The church
had an ancient, almost medieval atmosphere, and upon standing in it for
several minutes, the trio burst out in "The Lyke Wake Dirge," their
powerful, rich harmonies filling every crack and corner of the building
and reverberating across the hills outside. It seemed like those voices
rang out for miles, and echoed for a long time. What a sound! It's
something that will live in my memory for as long as I have one.

Happy Traum

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